Shotgun Slugs: Smoothbore vs. Rifled Barrel.

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Terry Beasley your not what I’d call a professional...

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reaffirming my philosophy of a rifled short barrel with 00 buck for bumps in the night. before anyone says anything, I live alone in the woods so I can shoot through all the walls I want.

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paul has a fantastic video about different caliber penetration of multiple house walls and an exterior wall, i just watched it and #4 buck did an awesome job !! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZqreZqglrdjiqs ...... you have the right idea MechanizedApe but i think the wrong pellets.. you might wanna go with my idea of 32 pellet #4 buck to fill in your pattern.. or #3 buck or #2 or #1.. to hell with over-penetration scares.. if someone's/anyone's shots over-penetrate it is not the defenders fault but it is the fault of the intruder instigating the battle engagement.. of course we will still feel badly if anyone is hurt but [sorry if this offends anyone] the objective you all seem to be talking about is you and your loved ones surviving the engagement, [which i assume is constant and foremost on your mind during the entire battle ie: know your target and what is behind and beyond it , this should include if your family is behind the target, right? ] so over-penetration should be a minor secondary concern up to the point where you are legally liable,.. such as using a military 50cal rifle in your dorm-room to stop an attack, and even that is still up to a judge and jury.. [although one of the best quotes i will never forget is "your handgun has a main purpose, and it's main purpose is to get you to your long rifle!!" a shotgun under 25 yards seems reasonable but you gotta check your shot pattern.. if anyone [including me] wants to consider sacrificing penetration for effectiveness of engaging the target, that's totally up to the defending individual as long as they know there may be safety repercussions if you dont take down the target quickly and legal repercussions if excessive force is used to defend yourself, i guess.....i will keep an open mind... i liked this video, have a great day my good friend

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The Great Mechanized Ape You mention that it's a "short" barrel. Barrel length has absolutely nothing to do with shot pattern, contrary to the MYTH.

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[@ArtEM-wk4hs]

Thank you! An associate at Turners was just recently trying to tell me that the Remington 870 Express I was looking at didn't have a rifled barrel so I couldn't use rifled slugs and would need to pay for sabot slugs. I just left the store. Keep on keeping on, your knowledge and expertise are a breath of fresh air in this sea of misinformation that we live in.

[@kamelionify]

You can buy a rifled choke too

[@philipvanvaerenbergh5062]

"Rifled" slugs are for smooth bore shotguns. If the shotgun didn't have a rifled barrel, then you /should/ use the rifled slugs. Sabot slugs are for rifled barrels only.

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

I have very good results with a 5 or 6 inch(can't recall) extended rifled choke on my 870. The particular slug makes the difference. Good with Remington sluggers. Great with the Winchester slugs in the silver box.

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Most of the employees at Turners are bad IMO

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@@ExceptionalPleb I'm guessing Turner's is some kind of big box store?

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For someone with very limited knowledge and experience with shotguns, I found this to be highly informative. Thanks!

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Does a Canadian dime work the same...lol

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[@Callsign_Prophet]

This video helped me decide I don't need a rifled barrel. If I'm interested in range I'll pick up my .450 or .308. 50 yards with slugs is plenty for pushing.

[@mpdjr77]

Thank you for such a practical demonstration, Mr. Harrell. This video answered so many of my questions about shotgun ammo/barrel selection, saving me a bunch of time and money to figure it out, myself. Such a public service! Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊

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[@supertom8552]

Thanks Paul ! You answered all my questions about slugs, smooth boar , bird shot , rifled barred compatibility, intelligent, informative, to the point ! Excellent video !

[@fdmackey3666]

This video could not have been more timely as I just purchased a Mossberg 500 (smoothbore barreled) with rifle sights (flip up/down barleycorn rear with ramp front) and was about to invest in several boxes of slugs, buckshot and No. 6 shells for use as a "control" load. I hate to sound cheap, despite the fact that I AM VERY cheap whenever possible, but seeing the patterns from the camera's view allowed me to settle on a buckshot load for the barrel that came on my particular firearm. I AM in the market for both a rifled barrel and a nice vent ribbed barrel for bird hunting usage as cheaply as I can find them priced. Thanks again for a very timely and on point video and for saving me some money that can now be spent on barrels and chokes!

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Dropped everything, got popcorn !

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Dropped everything.

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Was holding a baby, still dropped everything

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Honestly it was probably better to drop the baby

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Paul uploaded I stopped reloading...

[@garyh7949]

Someone on a gun forum mentioned Paul Harrell and here I am. Subscribed and liked. I've always heard that you should use rifled slugs in a smooth bore and un-rifled slugs or sabot in a rifled bore. Thanks for expounding on that.

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**grabs a dime and pappy's old shotgun** Another great video Paul!

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[@wadekirby8575]

I've fired bird shot through a .45/410 handgun and found that different loads behave quite differently from one another. Different brands and loadings use different components and changing one component can make a striking difference. Some would scatter quickly making thin basically useless patterns. Some would make a doughnut pattern like you described. One load seamed to ignore the rifling and shoot a tight and consistent pattern.

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[@claudiodominguez.]

I like how he dispenses with the b.s. and goes straight to 100 yards on the first slug test. On the third test I wasn't paying full attention and thought it was 100 yards and I was ready to buy an old double barrel, that group was tight, then I heard it was at 25 yards. Great video.

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Excellent info. Thanks Paul

[@friendofcoal]

Great video, Sarge. I've always wanted to know about these comparisons. Thanks.

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Made my day seeing a new video by Paul! Great info. I had heard alot about bird shot in a rifled slug barrel but never tried it. I wont waste my time or money now.

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[@tamirobo]

Love your tests. Practical limiting parameters are clearly stated with the proper disclaimers.

[@bern1228]

Thanks. I've always been curious about shooting rifled slugs through my smoothies

[@brightly9318]

Rifled slugs are meant for smooth bore barrels.

[@TheMagnumChannel]

Very well done, I was one of the ones hollering "Use Sabot slugs!" at my screen! Lol 😂

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7:38 I was as impressed with this ammo description, as I was with his shooting! What delivery! Great vid!

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Thanks for sharing this Paul! As usual, good info :)

[@dave8895]

How about doing a video on the performance of full power slugs and buckshot versus the performance of reduced recoil slugs and buckshot?

[@PaulHarrell]

That's a good idea.

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I second this.

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Maybe with something like a Shockwave or TAC-14 (smiles broadly).

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*The Stoned Videogame Nerd* Sorry to hear you cannot shoot yours as I have found the Shockwave to be a pussycat with Federal LEO Low Recoil loads(1150fps). This is the most fun I have had with a gun in years. Almost every pellet is on paper at 7yds. As for Aquila, why pay more for less? Yes, the 1897 was nice too. I may have to look for one.

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For the money shockwaves are incredible fun! My friends dont share my fondness for 3 inch magnum slugs though.

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[@seanyouknowwho798]

As always, a great video and personally very timely for me. The "Slug Debate" has been going on at my Saturday morning men's breakfast for years. Thanks for the info. Also, you should do a video on "Why we need to buy a new gun or two every year". My wife keeps asking silly questions like "Don't you already a gun like that?" I say "Well, I have it in an auto loader, but not in a revolver...or it's a compact and this is a full size..or I have a double action and this is a single action...." With your calm demeanor and sound logic, I am sure you could convince my wife and probably many others that there is a good reason for the need for all these different guns and she shouldn't ask questions. It would avoid a lot of husband/wife arguments....😉

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Because I can? Alright, yeah, I can see how a wife might not like that answer.

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if you shoot a lot, how about "honey, you know things wear out. i used it so much and now the warrantee is expired and plus you know our lives depend on these things working correctly the first time, every time..dont you think a new gun keeps us safer darling?!" .. but then you gotta worry about the woman logic kicking in and then her saying "well don't shoot so much and wear them out so fast !!" ...maybe just tell her you made a bet with a stranger or friend at the gun club for a new gun, and you won the bet !!...hehehe LOL

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I never argue with my wife about needing a new gun i just slip a few bucks out of the bank account here and there and slip it in the back door when she's not home

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Lol damn yeah every year it seems like. Got away with 2 maybe 3 this year.. it’s opposite in my house tho. I love guns and my husband has no interest but is supportive. Anyone do the gun for birthdays or Christmas?? you say it’s for them but in reality…

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Never new a dime was a trick to measure a choke. Thanks Paul

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mozzberg never knew new was the new knew

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What came first, the 12 Gauge, or the dime?

[@back40gunner]

As always, thank you Paul for uploading another fantastic video. I just wanted to add my 2 cents to your findings. I am from Canada. My son-in-law shoots a 590-A1 with a smooth bore open sights, and I shoot a Mossberg 500 with a rilfed barrel and red dot. We both shoot Canadian made "SCORE" Brenneke slugs at $1CAD/round; son-in-law shoots 1 1/8 oz, I shoot 1 oz. We each can hit groups no more than a hand width apart at 70 yards, freehand, without any trouble. These are only our findings and I am simply adding information to your already informative video and I am always looking forward to your upcoming videos. BTW: I also shoot 30-30 and I find your video the best to show people REAL findings of 30-30 ballistics.

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I love the diversity of your video topics. Thanks for the effort. :)

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I think I've made my father into a fan with this and the "introduction to shotguns" video, and he doesn't even like guns.

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I always learn something. Awesome channel. Thanks, Paul.

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Makes me proud to know this fine man was rewarded for sharing his experiences and expertise. Bravo!

[@ATINKERER]

That was very instructive. I've been shooting for 50 years and I learned a few things from this video. The only problem is that I didn't understand if you shot from both barrels of the double barrel shotgun? Or were those four shots from one barrel, and if so which one?

[@hunters.6894]

Left/full choke

[@davehahn8767]

Same scattered pattern shooting snake shot through a rifled barrel. But a .22 shot shell with a Short Lane adapter gives great patterns at 15 yards with very little noise. Kind of specialized, but for pests in close, no ricochet worries and low noise, works well.

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Thank you for your service and no nonsense straight up information. Subscribed.

[@dannyoleksiak7792]

Paul I recently found your channel and love your content. Could you do a video on realistic accuracy goals. Ex. How tight of a group is really good enough for rifle and pistol. Thank you

[@jamiesloan5902]

danny oleksiak From 50 yards, I can hit my 10" gong 95% of the time, with my TX-22 pistol, but it took some practice(years). With a rifle... 2" groups at 100 yards, is plenty efficient for hunting(1" is MOA). 6" groups from 25 yards is plenty efficient, with a self defense handgun. I shoot slightly better than I recommended, but I've been shooting for a long, long time. Start off by trying to shoot 4" groups from 10 yards, with your handgun, and just stay at it. You'll get better, and better with time. Trust me.

[@jeffreygraf3358]

Just don't make a habit of shooting foster slugs through a rifled barrel, unless you want spend hours of cleaning the lead out of the bore. My father in law did this for two years and his barrel was so gummed up with lead it looked like a smoothbore.

[@Kai33331]

Sir you have some of the best shooting videos around. Thank you

[@troy9477]

Nice. I was a little surprised the sabots printed so low. Interesting to see rifled slugs in a rifled bore. The accuracy on the sabot slugs from the rifled barrel was gratifying. Surprised the cost difference was so small. The sabot slug prices i usually see are higher. Great video as always. Thank you

[@leshenry9695]

Years ago I had a Mossberg 20 guage. I cut the barrel to 18.5", and mounted a peep sight on the rear, and a conventional sight up front. I could consistently hit an 8" paper plate at 75 yd. I found this to be very effective on whitetails in the brush up here in VT.

[@justinv3080]

Paul any chance we'll get a revisit to the 10mm videos using Underwood, Buffalo bore or double tap?

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Justin Miller, Underwood Ammo's ammo vs the meat target.

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answers for life long questions... thank Paul!

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Thanks for the video! I keep thinking of random questions as I watch through your presentations, and I'll be danged if every one doesn't get answered!... Once shot a borrowed .22 WMR, was told you could shoot .22 LR through it, just to watch your eyes.... Yeah.... Very little time on the web proved I did not have access to good firearms information near me LOL.... You presentations are pure gold to those who don't know nothing about firearms. Thanks again, Jesse

[@Loganb611]

So it is my understanding that when you fire a slug through a full choke barrel, it will actually slow the slug down slightly because the lead needs to be stretched to fit through the hole. Could you put this to the test by firing the same slugs over the chronograph out of either the same gun with removable chokes, or out of two guns one with a full choke one with a cylinder bore?

[@PaulHarrell]

Good topic. I'll put it to the test if I can find the gun(s).

[@billterry967]

I have all ways wondered what would happen if you shot slugs through a full choke. New sub here love your video's you are truly one of the most firearms educated man of all I've seen. Any video's on the use of choke tubes duck goose and deer season is upon us and what choke to use on what is confusing Lol.

[@R32R38]

The rifling on a conventional Foster slug is mainly to help it fit through a full choke, rather than to make it spin.

[@cadetrenew]

Yeah I was always told you'd blow the barrel. Glad I found Paul Harrell's channel! I could've been shooting slugs through my Mossberg auto this whole time.

[@jic1]

R32R38 Actually, it *does* impart spin in a smoothbore barrel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIOzoGRvebyfkLs

[@michaelkoba2139]

I thought slugs of any kind could open up a full choke on a fixed choke or blow out a screw in choke?

[@mrhellotherehowareu1384]

I shoot slugs all the time in a full choke.

[@jimmystevens9028]

I've got a Beretta slug gun w/chrome lined rifled barrel. Using Hornady SST sobot slugs mine is zero's at 120yds and shoots awesome. Anything under 300yds is dead, biggest thing is I've shot this gun often and know it very well.

[@jwiskow1]

And as always, I learned something new today. Thanks Paul.

[@mmoon3687]

Thank you Paul. I was looking at shotguns today and was asking myself, smooth bore or rifled? Couldn't decide, the timing of this video is perfect.

[@jamiesloan5902]

Michael Moon If you plan on shooting just slugs, then get the rifled barrel. If you want ALL of the many advantages of a shotgun, get the smooth bore. My smooth bore shoots slugs plenty accurate enough. 2"-3" groups at 50 yards. Plus, I've got 8 different sized chokes for my other loads.

[@Paul-wq4qb]

@@jamiesloan5902 Agreed. Freedom munitions makes an awesome 1oz that I've had great results with

[@brightly9318]

It all depends, ive had both rifled and smooth bore, at 50 yards i missed all 6 rounds at a group of 4 running deer with sabot slugs out of an 870 express with a rifled barrel, but had one round one kill at 100+ rounds at a running deer....point being, sabot slugs and rifled barrels are not always the best. Its all about comfort, and practice. Also ease of use, most smooth bore has a single bead for a sight, where rifled barrels mostly have rifle type open sights.

[@paststeve1]

Thanks for another great offering! Is it possible that the rifled barrel won't shoot a doughnut pattern with bird shot unless it's a law enforcement shotgun?

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Good one.😁

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Perfect! Lol hahahaha lol My son calls that a “dad” joke because it’s corny lol

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[@SootHead]

Great video! Thanks for highlighting what a lot of us have discovered. Re the birdshot from a rifled barrel, I tried that out of my deer-hunting slug barrel. I didn't see a "donut" either but a VERY random pattern. Mine was almost a spiral shape. If you ever revisit this, I wonder how buck would do, #4 and 00? As to the sabots, I was pretty impressed at how accurate they can be. I tried them all when setting up my slug gun to hunt whitetail here in Ohio and settled on the Hornady SST. May not be the hardest hitting one out there but in my gun, in my hands, by far the most accurate. And if you hit "the spot" it's plenty effective in my book... I pretty much just pour the lungs out of the chest cavity. Just stumbled into your channel Paul and like it a LOT. Binge watched some of it. Well done!

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Thanks--I was planning on asking for just this video. Nicely done as always.

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love this guru and every single video he posts...so wish i would have had him as an instructor or something back in the day..but he's schooling me now so i'll take that!..thanks Paul !

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[@TheKlickitat]

I shoot a lot of slugs and have found that shotguns are very finicky about the rounds they shoot, with no two being identical in what they like. I have however found that more often than not, shotguns tend to prefer lower velocities rather than higher velocities. If you get the chance, find some Fiocchi 1050 fps slugs. The inserted wads that stay with the slug and act like a shuttlecock really work well for stabilizing them and in most of my smoothbore shotguns they work very well.

[@R32R38]

My Maverick 88 sometimes has trouble ejecting Remington shells, but does fine with Federal and Rio.

[@mattkrapfl6349]

bingo. shoot hot slugs and your pattern will really open up. you can always hold higher. Good luck hunting successfully if you have no idea where your bullets gonna hit

[@jedironin380]

Brenneke slugs did group tighter out of my smoothbore shotgun than Rem. Sluggers, but the ol' Sluggers weren't too bad either.

[@gerardj.medvec55]

Another thorough presentation. Thanks, Paul.

[@Goolio2020]

This presentation is top notch! Thank you!

[@giausjulius4]

Great video, Paul! I was curious about this as I am in the market for a shotgun. That being said I was wondering if you had an opinion on the concept of scout rifles and your thoughts on practical rifles and how they might compare to your thoughts on scout rifles.

[@Porty1119]

Gillan Laureth of Seles I'd be interested to see this as well. Maybe a few short-range drills with the scout rifle? We all know that bolt guns are quite sufficient at range; it's the close-range performance that the long-eye-relief scope mount is supposed to improve.

[@alucard3600]

Indeed that would make for an interesting video.

[@giausjulius4]

I was considering that particular rifle. However the magazines are nearly impossible to find and when you can find them they are upwards of $80. I'd only want 2, maybe 3 spare magazines but that's 1/3 the cost of the rifle just in replacement magazines (as well as hearing the magazines are kinda on the flimsy side). I also hear the open sights are mounted very low and you almost have to take the cheek riser off to get a sight picture with them. A few other mentions were the Mossberg MVP Scout, the Styer Scout, and the venerable M1A (both of the latter are out of my current price range). I like the Mossberg for the utility and affordability, I like the Styer for being the truest of scout rifles and looking damn sexy doing it, and I like the M1A because who wouldn't want one to begin with (though it's hefty for a scout gun). Those are all of the dedicated scout rifles I hear about. Then you could also do some gunsmithing work and make something like a Remington 700 into a scout rifle with some extended rails and such. How about you all? What do you think of these guns?

[@giausjulius4]

I just checked out the Howa rifle and that looks like one sexy beast. It's on the definite upper price range of what I could afford, maybe even not afford. The only feature I did not find likable is the short top-mounted rail system. You don't have a lot of range for mounting optics so if you wanted to maintain the close-range edge of a scout you'd have to go with a low magnification system or get an ACOG-like optic. Still tempting as it looks like an amazing rifle at first glance. I've heard very mixed feelings about the Mossberg rifles. Notably that the actions are weak, the accuracy is shite, and it's usually rough around the edges out-of-box. Then I have also heard the inverse of all of these things from people who apparently own them. Lastly, about the Savage magazines: for me, what's the point of having a detachable box magazine if you'll never need to use it? I like to have several additional magazines for everything I own because I like to load them all at once at the range and spend more time shooting (I haven't taken my hunting and safety courses yet...I also don't have anywhere to store all that delicious meat). That being said I've also added the Ruger American Predator to my list of potential rifles. It's gotten amazing reviews and the only two things I don't like are the lack of open sights and the lack of an extended rail but I can compensate for those. And if you don't mind me asking where are you from? France? Germany? New Zealand?

[@giausjulius4]

Good lord that's expensive compared to here in the US! The average I've seen for the Savage Scout is about $600. Unless that's the Australian dollar in which case I think that's almost par for the course. The Ruger GSR...well, I just don't like it very much. I've had the chance to pick one up and work the action and it just feels like a brick to me. The Ruger American Predator was nice and smooth but not really a scout gun save the fact it's light weight and has nice accuracy. After you told me about the Howa Scout I've been doing my research on it and there isn't all that much research to be had lol. No real reviews on YT and not a lot of people are talking about it except to say it's not a true scout gun due to it's conventional placement of the optic rail and the gun being "too heavy" (which at 7lbs empty is not too heavy, really. It misses the true scout design specs by .4 of a pound, or 1.4 with a full sized scope). These things aside I'm torn between the Savage 11 Scout, the Howa Scout and the Ruger American Predator. Really the only reason I haven't purchased the Ruger American already is that is lacks iron sights. With a 2-7 or 3-9 power scope you can still get a great field of view at the lowest settings and still be able to dial in without a problem like you would with a long eye relief scope BUT that's no excuse for the lack of good ol' irons. But I don't know anymore. I'm tired, it's late. Good night, or morning for you in Australia. I'll be thinking about this all day at work tomorrow, most like. So many things to consider.

[@benwest3223]

Well, if ever I decide I want to hit EVERYTHING in the same zip code as my target, I know what configuration to use.

[@datapro007]

Interesting presentation. Thank you. You seemed to have answered all of my questions before I though of them.

[@willbranson3216]

I used my Remington 11-87, 12 gauge, that had a 21" cantilever, rifled barrel barrel with a 1.5-5X20mm Leupold scope as both a squirrel and black bear gun, with Winchester 385 grain Partition Gold slugs. It worked equally well on each. 1.5" three-shot groups at 75 yards. Accuracy with the same gun, scope and ammo was also great when using a 21" cantilever SMOOTH barrel and a 5" rifled choke tube.

[@vgahren]

Paul’s like the uncle you never know you had. Being new to shotgunning, I found this extremely helpful. Seems to me, firing a slug through an improved-cylinder barrel is almost like a musket ball through a flintlock, kinda.

[@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120]

Supposedly muskets maximum deadly range was 75-100 yards. The ball was small enough to roll right down the barrel so you can imagine how much more it would bounce around barrel walls compared to a slug. For sure a shotgun is everything those line infantry guys wish their muskets was especially in terms of reliability. Flintlocks are finicky andeven if wind and rain aren’t preventing them from going off eventually the hot gunk in the barrel from the black powder will. Guys had musket cleaning tools with brushes for the pan and picks for the touchhole right on their cartridge box strap or somewhere else they could get to it in the heat of battle.

[@savagemako17]

Your last shot with the shot through a rifled barrel would prove effective for most people and shows how the so called myth of just pointing a shot gun and hitting anything in front of it can actually happen. In a home defense or Zombie attack...that 6 foot spread would come in handy! As always, great videos!

[@rohlfing63]

Awesome as always. One thing to share based on a lot of past experience with slug shooting. Whether shooting rifled slugs through a smoothbore, or sabots through a rifled barrel, you really need to experiment with different brands and lengths of shells (if you have a 3" chamber in a 12 ga) to find what shoots well. Each gun will have it's preference. In my younger days I only hunted deer with smoothbore guns and rifled slugs (all we had). One gun shot best with Winchester slugs, the other with Remington. Remarkable difference in how they performed with each ammo. Wanted to know why, so I cut open one of each. The Remington slugs were of smaller diameter, and had a thicker skirt. The Winchester slugs were fatter, with a thinner and more deformable skirt. Not surprisingly, the Winchester loads performed much better in the improved cylinder barrel, while the Remington's were better with the full choke. In rifled barrels I've also found remarkable differences between sabots of different brands, in multiple guns. Keep up the great stuff Paul!

[@FantomWireBrian]

The metal in your intro was given to my dad. He was proven in the field of battle. His opinion . He was impressed with the black powder which is legal in most shotgun zones. He was impressed by a group with riffled slugs through my side by side 626 Barretta. It has a group of 5" smooth barrels. It's the closest to a high end side by side rifle. 😎.

[@GunSam]

A buddy and I were shooting 00 buckshot out of a rifled barrel, and it was hilarious. One shot was scattering the shot 20 feet high at 50 yards, the next shot might be 20 feet to the left or right. It was being a true "scatter" gun, just scattered everywhere. Overall i'd rather have a smooth bore any day of the week for general use.

[@royharrell1760]

Gun Sam most smooth bores will shoot open sights/bead slugs to 100 yards really well. Wouldn't ask much more from a rifle. Rifled shotgun barrels with scopes are for those shotgun only deer hunts or shot gun seasons in eastern states. I feel those barrels really limit your shotgun to one purpose instead of many.

[@GunSam]

My state of MI limits rifle use in the lower half of the state where it's more populated with people. But recently, they have also began to allow for the use of straight walled carbines in rifles such a .44 mag, 500 mag and the like. The interesting thing is that studies were done that showed that shotgun slugs can travel as far as a mile while skipping across the ground, as where rifle bullets usually do not travel far at all after hitting the ground. It makes you wonder how they ever came up with all of the hunting rules that they have, probably an accidental shooting one time from a distance with a rifle, and without studying all the facts, they came to the conclusion that rifles are bad in a more populated area, and that shotguns "can't" shoot far.

[@alexoelkers2292]

Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ possibly many laws are made out of fear and are pushed through quickly due to a tragic incident.

[@rhabdob3895]

I’m interested in guns, disinterested in gun “culture” and love this channel. Also. Who’s truck is parked behind the targets?

[@SaraphDarklaw]

I’m in the same boat for you. I call them ammosexuals. Paul is great for dry data.

[@deltazulu2848]

Rhabdo B for what it’s worth, gun culture is really demonized in the media. The foundation of gun culture is safe handling and proficient shooting.

[@bigmike8586]

@@deltazulu2848 i thought gun culture was stockpiling ten thousand rounds of 7.62 and 3D printing full auto drop in sheers for ARs

[@deltazulu2848]

Big Mike I don’t know anyone who does that and I hang out with a lot of “gun nuts”

[@robaldridge6505]

@@bigmike8586 'sheers' ?????

[@luisangelperez9469]

As always, high quality video and info, thank you Paul.

[@ScotWalt858]

Excellent video. Informative as always. Thanks!

[@kentwilliams4152]

Yes sir, “SAY BOW” is correct.

[@rdrun51660]

Thanks Paul, I am having a hell of a time sighting in my shotgun with slugs at 50 yards, yet you are doing better at 100!!! LOL

[@frankbutta9344]

Ahhhhh..... I climb into bed, and a Paul Harrell video appears on my iPad. Thanks Paul!

[@billpohlman803]

Wow! A very timely video for me..You answered many (most) of my shotgun questions. Pistols I'm an expert, but shotguns I'm a novice!