Should A Christian Consult the Dead? | Pt 2 | Christians & Veneration of the Dead

[@ChibiArchivesProduction]

Watch Chim's answers to some of the questions you have asked about this interview. Click on the link below; kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGebY2ycpN95oJo

[@dumitshabs8719]

You are doing the exact opposite of the scripture you read. You are coming from the position of knowledge and influence therefore fear. The very first offering to an Idol was done by Cain and Abel in the bible. This Idol amongst many ( Psalm 82) wanted a sacrifice Exodus 13:15 “When Pharaoh stubbornly refused to let us go, the Lord killed the firstborn of both people and animals in Egypt. This is why I sacrifice to the Lord the first male offspring of every womb and redeem each of my firstborn sons.’ 16 And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the Lord brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand.” That is why Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son as per instruction by the Idol called Jahweh ( God of Israel) . This we learnt from God not this phantom creature you call the devil. Paul whom you follow not Jesus was erasing the embarrassment of the Old Testament and at the same time nullify the new Teachings of Yeshua that “We are One with The Creator. There is none but One Creator and we are within this Creator not outside. You are the individuation of this Creator therefore you are Gods”.

[@nhlanhla7532]

Amazing, there is no either or BUT knowing that the Lord is love is an equalizing truth about the difference between religions and the relationship with the Father (Dad)... thank you Pastors Chim and Paster Mhlophe

[@Thando-nn7fn]

Teach paster your words are biblical truth

[@ChibiArchivesProduction]

So trie

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

This is a complex issue that requires deep understanding and sensitivity, both towards the person and their cultural background. It is important to realize that many people hold onto their ancestral traditions for cultural and social reasons, and that these traditions may hold deep spiritual and emotional significance for them. As Christians, we should approach these individuals with love, kindness, and respect, and seek to understand their perspectives before making any judgments. One way to help them understand the Christian faith is to find commonalities between the teachings of Christ and their ancestral traditions. The Bible teaches that God created all cultures and people groups and desires to redeem them all. We can help them see how Christianity can be practiced in a way that is in line with their cultural identity and beliefs. It is also important to reach out to them in humility and patience, allowing the Holy Spirit to work in their hearts and minds. Praying for them, spending time with them, and showing them Christ's love through our actions, can all help break down barriers and open doors for meaningful conversations about faith. Ultimately, we need to leave their decision to follow Christ or not in the hands of God and trust in His perfect timing. Our role is to be faithful in sharing the gospel and living out our faith, while respecting and caring for those around us.

[@mpumelelomlanjeni3621]

You wrote so much and said nothing

[@patriciajamela846]

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[@patriciabezuidenhout8697]

Very eloquently discussed thank you.

[@ChibiArchivesProduction]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@morongwataje5281]

Pastor Africa you are on spot

[@nuttyoco]

Wonderful interview. I honestly found a more profound way of understanding the subject of spirituality!

[@zukied4817]

Amen

[@remimautjana5622]

Indeed the Maker defines his own product! You can never take Toyota to BMW maker so you can know about the Toyota product, it's impossible so the how far we need to go back in order to know our coming from it cannot be far until were we want, and how we want to shape the info we want to dish out so that we can give people the view we want them to have about us. God is our beginning case closed

[@dumitshabs8719]

Chose wrong example, there is a car that can be serviced by BMW or Toyota called Supra. Leave cars out of this. There is nothing in this world that is not created by the Creator. Why do you ignore Isaiah 45:7 . Jehova is not the creator of all beings, he is an alien from another world that colonised Israelis. It is not hidden that he craved meat, wanted virgins, had a wife. All these are ignored and in turn you get Jesus elevated to the level of the creator.Park you fear of death, you will leave your body anyway and return to the creator of the seen and unseen regardless of your belief associations cause all are a fallacy. Ask yourself this, if God is all powerful and knowing as you say why then ancestors, the demons and Satan are making a mockery of his creation. This is absurd and bothering on lunacy. By the way the bible also says Satan is a Son of God same as Jesus - Job1 : 6-7. Follow your alien JEHOVA and leave our ancestors who have no relation to Hebrew Israelites in peace.

[@dumitshabs8719]

Yey! of little faith no need to force your belief, it is yours and yours alone. You are the only one who knows your accumulated transgressions, secrets, wants, wishes etc. if there is atonement to be paid you will honour that debt on your own. The devil has fooled you big time, you even use cars to make a foolish argument. All cars are driven by internal combustion engines or electric motors therefore they are the same just different cosmetics. And oh there is a car that has a BMW engine and a Toyota body called Toyota Supra. You have been tricked by the devil😄😄

[@thembadlakadla2146]

Are we Christians or Disciples…??? Identity : Being The Key Factor that Defines us. 1. Our Maker and 2. Who we are in him -God is our Maker(The Spirit Being) -And we are called his Children : Sons and Daughters(Spirit Being) -Jesus Christ our Savior! (The Physical Being) -And we are Called his Disciples All this names are what God The Father and The Son has Defined us to be! Son’s of the Father and Disciples of the Savior!

[@watersoundinfinity]

We will always consult the ''dead''. They wrote the Bible.

[@dumitshabs8719]

Wait, religion will never supersede ABANGONI cultures and traditions. Bible was put together in 325CE, brought to South Africa in 1652 and spread across the country late 1700 by the teams of Colenso and Calaway. The Nguni people then, knew the MAAT which is plagiarised in the bible as 10 commandments. Nguni people knew that there was a living consciousness above all known deities and that our ancestors were a conduit to communicate with the All, the Seen and the Unseen. There is no pure African culture or tradition that cannot be found in the bible……… for us Africans there is nothing new to learn in the bible. We fall for this trickery cause we have been made to forget who we are, where we came from and who erased all our knowledge and contaminated our wisdom. Jahweh, Baal, Chemosh, Amun and many others are not the Consciousness where we came from, they are nothing but masters that colonised Earth and want to be worshiped. These gods implanted a gene in us to yearn to worship hence every one is claiming to have a method that works, some methods are bordering lunacy ( just say you accept Jesus and you are done). Garden of Eden was a laboratory where this gene was planted to a select few ( Adam, Lilith, Eve and their seed). People outside the Garden of Eden were infected by Cain and this gene spread to this day. Elon is developing his own and will implant and infect a new species bowing to what ….. heaven knows. Fight this gene and understand that nothing will separate you from the creator cause you were never apart from the Consciousness.

[@zukied4817]

That is exactly the language of the devil. You are led to what you say by a spirit. All Nations had their own ways of worship, but now all Nations are called to worship one God, the creator of all creation through Jesus Christ who is the image of God.

[@dumitshabs8719]

@@zukied4817 thank you kindly for your input. Do you mean the Creator was in slumber until Jesus was begotten by Maria. Do you mean the Creator of all never cared for his/ her creation and all he created was imperfect and needed fixing or made aware there is life after death. People before Jesus including our African ancestors knew there is life after death hence different religions. By proclaiming Christ you are doing same, you are acknowledging there is life after death. The mistake you now make is thinking the Creator of all is punny and you think he prefers you over all his creation. You are not different and will never different or separate hence Jesus referred to himself as Son of Man sent by the Father and said all creation and created is God. For once have you ever thought how your life would be without the skewed information in the bible……..you will be super happy and filled with Love,,,,,,,look at the infants and small children , they are just loving , playful, beautiful and inquisitive. This stops once we corrupt them with our beliefs.

[@dumitshabs8719]

@@zukied4817 have you ever noticed that there no mention or existence of the devil in the in the Old Testament but Satan who was a beloved son of God whom he tasks to test Jobe. The Devil is the creation of Zealous Christians like yourselves, the authors of New Testament and bible illiterates who rush to be critical of others in the process denigrate their parents and ancestors whom they are made in their image and likeness - read Genesis 5: 3 “ When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth”.

[@sagittariusdemigod_123]

​@@zukied4817 You are dumb!