Should Adam LZ have joined Formula Drift the way he did?

[@circleofdrift]

This video is a year old guys. Lol relax🤣

[@Extremebananalover]

No

[@snipez411]

It did age well after the sage interview 😅😅😅😅

[@circleofdrift]

@@Extremebananalover let loose then🤣

[@circleofdrift]

@@snipez411 dude right…🤣

[@Extremebananalover]

@@circleofdrift no

[@timsheahan3951]

He didn’t get in because of that. He petitioned for his pro 2 license which is just showing fd that you have the skill and in his case it was all the small comps he had won before entering into fd. Drivers do it all the time

[@internettroll1185]

What comps did he win before fd? Because he did clutch kickers after fd and never won a single battle or event before fd…

[@Joshua-rp3tm]

@@internettroll1185 u do know there is something called pro am?? He did and won pro am events… like the lone star events and many more…do your research dawg.. he worked his way up just like everyone else…

[@MetalBomb269]

Yup

[@OxygenGenetics]

@@internettroll1185 he won at Sebring in the cream S13 way before FD. Your lack of research and bias against Adam shows big time guy.

[@internettroll1185]

@@OxygenGenetics 😂 we weren’t talking about that though🤷‍♂️👏👏👏

[@aleclenzen8347]

Half the people here don't realize LZ ran a lot of proam/comps before any FD talk. He has all the qualifications to join he just was a solo person that joined FD not supported by a massive company his first year. He had help with his car by enjuku that's why they were his lead sponsor. He had the event wins to get into pro 2. He chose to move up because he was doing good. He isn't comfortable in a big ass heavy mustang yet. But when he gets more comfortable he will do better. Watch him drive klutch kickers vs the same Cars as FD. It's a whole different story.

[@aleclenzen8347]

@@williamsharp864 making myself look dumb? How, LZ won a lot of comps that when he petitioned like many other drivers he was able to get his P2 license. Even Vaughn has said multiple times that LZ got hate from everyone for being his own company coming into the sport fast without a bunch of massive name sponsors. You sound like the hater my guy.

[@williamsharp864]

@@aleclenzen8347 my bad didn't mean to reply to your comment we on the same page bro my bad comment was meant for the maker of the vid Lz has put N the work for FD have a good one bro

[@aleclenzen8347]

@@williamsharp864 ahhhh shit my bad then homie. Have a good one man.

[@gingerhemp]

Yeah he worked his ass off. He literally started from the bottom

[@akh1742]

Oh we realize it doesn't mean he was any good. I think before making the FD jump all he had was a SuperD win in a borrowed car out of the countless events he had attended. and then you're acting like he was any good in pro2 he didn't even qualify his first event out in basically his home track in Orlando. And in pro he was ass in the s15 and now he's even worse in the mustang which has a full team and basically sponsored by Ford themselves and the dude ended at the bottom of this year's table. And klutch kickers? Really? First off none of the top guys participate in klutch kickers I think Chelsea does but it's basically a gimmick the only real competition is Alec hohnedale who to my knowledge has never actually won an FD event. Is he a good drifter? In grassroots events yea he's good but if we're talking about FD just look at his placements it's not that hard the only time he gets through is if his opponent DNFs

[@jno1990]

What color is your drift compound?

[@brandon_doe]

Wtf does the compound have to do with the topic?

[@boosted_brody5474]

​@@brandon_doe lol My guy you're a bit out of touch..this statement comes from Andrew Tate's famous line "What color is your Bugatti?"

[@brandon_doe]

@@boosted_brody5474 bruv. Sounds like you’re the one out of touch. The compound has nothing to do with the topic. If everything has to resort to “where’s your shit” you got problems. Nobody cares if you have a compound or a Bugatti. You still gonna die in the same place. 6 feet deep

[@justanother_mid]

​@@brandon_doewoooooosh

[@brandon_doe]

@@justanother_mid I know it was a joke. Just a horribly thought out one. And I was here to call it out. Nice try tho

[@mitchellwalter8180]

Listen to podcast they clip it so it seems like they are talking 💩 but they aren't lol 😆

[@circleofdrift]

3.9m views and counting lol

[@hallacki]

@@circleofdrift that means? You have no tru supporters

[@circleofdrift]

@@hallacki it means that we want to retain people that are smart enough to investigate the podcast not just fall for reels. Data shows those people don’t long term sub to anyone. We’re fine with that

[@connorreid3373]

​@@circleofdrift long term subbed to luke fink, adam LZ & hoonigans 👀

[@columdoherty6755]

they just clout chasing using lz's name

[@bladimirochoa6150]

This aged well. He just got his first win

[@clozedcaskets1438]

People be hatin dog

[@gingerhemp]

He’s a fast learner and a good driver. Came from making bmx videos to a formula, drift driver. He worked his ass off to get there

[@radicalleaf4934]

Fucking exactly he earned the position he is in today because of hard work and determination

[@brandon_doe]

He didn’t work his ass of to get into fd. If he did we would’ve seen him run a pro am series

[@theOGdabbs]

@@brandon_doe He ran several Pro Am events in Texas though 😂

[@brandon_doe]

@@theOGdabbs running a few events versus running in the series is completely different. Idk why you think that’s funny. He did not run a whole series and DID NOT EARN his license through pro am…. I mean seriously, are you that dense? Do some research instead of dick riding the dude

[@Griizmo]

That's what they all say 😂🤔 Money buys access not skill 👏

[@joec6108]

The fact that his entire drifting career is just available for you and you still don’t know anything about it

[@beefster1882]

facts you can literally watch the whole entire thing lol i been watching ever since he bought the cream s13 with the pig nose.

[@akh1742]

Yea we been watching FD the dude is ass. He's good at grassroots comps against lesser competition with smaller budgets but in the big leagues with one of the biggest team budgets the only way he wins is if his opponent DNFs

[@beefster1882]

@@akh1742 bad take, hes won against fd drivers more than once and for you to say lesser competition is just silly, look at the amount of fd drivers that went to klutch kickers and such events, dudes in a brand new chassis lol go watch his videos and youll see him winning in comp other than a dnf thats just silly. like the og comment says 'the fact that his whole career is on youtube' yet people like you still get it all twisted up XD now im not saying hes the best nor the worst but you gotta have atleast 2 braincells to see that XD

[@akh1742]

@@beefster1882 I'm still waiting for names of ppl he's beat legitimately in FD I'm just going off of what I've seen, and from the FD drivers in klutch kickers how many of them are top tier? More importantly how many of them have even won an FD event

[@beefster1882]

@@akh1742 by you saying how many of them are top tier more importantly how many have won an fd event shows that you dont actually pay attention lmfao, KK is full of fd drivers and retired ones too and all. If you dont know the names of them thats not on me, i feel like you dont even know what youre talking about

[@bryansigamoney7427]

Lol where's your FD license 😂

[@philorayramirez2391]

You’re mad you don’t have 3.5 million subscribers and can’t get into formula drift. We see what’s really going on here most of LZ fans have been subscribed for years so its not like all of a sudden he got into formula drift nah he worked his way up like the rest. The last thing I have to say is when we came into formula drift he made his own team all his mechanics, pit crew, everything was on him. Him worked his ass off so that he got asked to drive for the Professional RTR DRIFT TEAM and you’re mad that you can’t do a decimal of what Adam LZ has done.

[@speedyjune781]

@@philorayramirez2391 nah you’re definitely pressed look at that fat ass paragraph you wrote for no reason 😂

[@peppylafew116]

@@philorayramirez2391 who you replying to?

[@claudedottin1312]

@@peppylafew116 I think he hit reply by accident

[@djjaysky9071]

​@@philorayramirez2391 so you're saying he's no different than any other rich kid who bought their way into racing

[@jamesdavies3038]

Probably the smartest thing fd ever did

[@circleofdrift]

Easily

[@eybruddah]

Where is this coming from lol he literally did pro 2 in his own car after winning a license. Documented the entire thing…

[@mijnmening]

IKR and he was rookie of the year in his first pro2 year.

[@SimThrills4U]

And I don't believe he earned enough points from pro 2 to gain his pro 1 license. Dude never made it out of the first round half the time

[@rjmoto69]

@@SimThrills4U The top 8 PROSPEC (Pro 2) drivers are able to move up to PRO (Pro 1) and get their license if they desire to move up. He placed 7th in overall points in 2019 and decided to move up to PRO (Pro 1) the year after. All this information is easily available on the FD page.

[@akh1742]

No buddy he petitioned for a license he never won one that's what this clip is about. And if u watch Lz you'd know he absolutely sucked his first and only year in pro2 he podiumed like once and was ass the rest of the time.

[@Nasty_Hilveks]

@@akh1742 u dude are mad hater xD, does any of this shit effect u ??

[@DavidJohnson-hg1mz]

Counter point… he found a way to make a living and be able to do more driving while doing it. Can’t hate on the guy for being successful in something he wanted to do.

[@COOTERR]

Counter point he is a trash driver. Dude can win local events but that’s about it

[@Jack_JRR]

​@@COOTERR LOL he is driving Infront of tens of thousands of people in a car he has never thought of driving and going way faster than he has before. sorry that Hes not performing to the level of drivers that have been driving for 3-4x longer.... than him.

[@510cj8]

That’s not a very good counter point, he’s not hating on his success he’s just being honest. We all know Adam isn’t the best FD driver.

[@YGSnB]

@@COOTERR there a lot of trash drivers in FD so what your point

[@guccigang1786]

​@@COOTERR now you sound dumb huh?

[@SAVAGExKush]

He said “ this is probably going to make a lot of people mad “ but in all reality he’s the one maddddd

[@darkside20b90]

Buddy you seem mad

[@blindskt89]

​@@darkside20b90 that's what I'm saying haha. Dude replied to op riding hard haha. Like nuhuh! Haha

[@freedomfox8183]

​@@blindskt89nah dude clearly mad because that's not even how he got into FD.. he started below that and earned his way in the same way I watched other drivers do it he just brings way more to the table than they do outside of drifting end it makes people butt hurt.. clearly..

[@anthonygriffin6868]

ufc?

[@akh1742]

Literally everyone on here defending him is mad lmao

[@woodstock87]

Originally LZ did not plan to go into FD. And I think it was a win win situation. LZ brings in views and has a lot of knowledge on how to make an income of YT/internet. So FD probably also convinced LZ to join. So maybe his participation and knowledge actually “saved” FD as an somewhat independent organization

[@unknowndestinyfabrication3872]

I definitely wouldn’t go as far as to say that it saved FD. FD has been here for a long time and will continue to be regardless of having LZ.

[@HandlerOne_86]

@@unknowndestinyfabrication3872 it will be there but he helps to boost the viewership that also help fd to do more crazy stuff, regardless its a win win for them

[@brandon_doe]

He did not in fact “save” fd… If you were around before he came into fd you would realize fd wasn’t going anywhere. Every event was just as packed…. I also am willing to bet fd didn’t try and convince him…. Why else would Adam petition?

[@YOSHI450R]

​@brandon_doe boosted FD would be a better way to put it, FD was stagnant for years before LZ. LZ AND later on Higa brought a ton of new eyes to drifting not just FD. Grassroots events seen more and more turnout with LZ's progression in drifting. FD would have been fine without LZ but Adam has definitely moved the needle more than any other driver since Faust

[@jeanettenaidoo4772]

He did not get in because of his fans , its because his been doing the sport He has done so many events before he tried out for FD

[@akh1742]

Yea with no proAM wins and like one win in a grassroots events he definitely got in bc of his skills, I mean just look at how many pro2 events he won. Oh that's right he didn't win any he podiumed like once and sucked ass the rest of the time and don't even get me started on his run in pro.

[@brandon_doe]

Tell me you know nothing about how major sports work without telling me…..

[@donkee5889]

yep definitely he did all those drift events to not get pro points to join fd he got them so he could tell everyone he got them. Adam did drift events for content and when he built the s15 with Enjuku, after a few videos of him driving it on the street he got his pro license for fd from the drift events he went to for content in earlier years

[@brandon_doe]

You don’t get “pro points”. You earn points for your series. And Adam in fact did not compete in a pro am series in order to gain his license

[@synkfr3998]

I agree, st first they allowed him in for his influence in the car community. But he really showed up and proved that he has skill in the sport, either way I believe he would have got in eventually

[@internettroll1185]

Has skill? He hasn’t won a single battle legitimately…

[@awsstudios]

@Kealyne Minnie link it

[@unknwn9995]

@@internettroll1185 he has now in irwindale

[@internettroll1185]

@@unknwn9995 this past round?

[@mrkouki180sx]

@@internettroll1185 clutch kickers says otherwise

[@tijeansharpe566]

I remember watching fd live stream on KZbin and It barely had 2k viewers and the same 5-10 people commenting on the live chat and the fd livestream on his debut in pro 2 had like 30-40k viewers and years later fd live streams are averaging 20k so can’t hate him for bringing new life to the sport that was starting to dwindle even during the james dean era

[@brandon_doe]

Nah the main reason the live never got big is due to the horrible production. Yet if you go to an fd event before Lz it was just as packed

[@MetalBomb269]

He can drive. He has driven more hours than we know about

[@l.pmedia]

That's a fully valid reason even if it was the only reason he was allowed in, But tbh i would argue that he showed that he could hang with the rest of the drivers

[@loui5969]

LZ had a huge amount of seat time in car and sim racing (due to his channel) which helps with getting his license. He was a bmx pro at one point, and the transition from skate and bmx to cars is not uncommon. He also won a lot of events before FD.

[@toft5320]

he was never a BMX pro.. not even close.. but I loved his BMX days

[@brandon_doe]

He didn’t win very many events before event. He also never competed in a pro am series and placed top 8 to actually earn his license just like everyone else…

[@Halloosenigenicz]

​@@brandon_doe bro you suck

[@brandon_doe]

@@Halloosenigenicz was that supposed to hurt my feelings? I mean cmon. At least come up with something better. You sound like you’re 12

[@brandon_doe]

@@Halloosenigenicz just cause I’m spitting the truth about your “idol” doesn’t mean “I suck”. Just grow up and get the dude dick out your mouth

[@Not_A_Cat]

I agree. And I dont have an issue with it. Goof for Adam, Good for fans, Good for Formula Drift.

[@jackakascko]

Yup, thats what happened.. and i love my boy adam

[@titandoomshop]

fag should stick with bmx

[@aleclenzen8347]

He definitely ran over 20 pro am/ comps that gave him the driver points to get into pro 2. He had the qualifications to go pro 1 when he did.

[@brandon_doe]

@@aleclenzen8347ro you need to compete in a pro am series…. Not just drive random events. Need to place top 8 in the series. You don’t just earn some points and boom you can get a license. Not how this works

[@jettwilliams239]

This is completely true no one can deny it

[@QuesoDipp]

People have been buying FD licenses since the beginning, its not that big of a deal.

[@Bloomshot1k]

Y’all forget he was a talented bmx rider. He has never bought his way into anything he just happens to have amazing KZbin revenue & a huge audience that supports him as a blogger. He as a person has a hunger to do better as a driver or anything he tends to do at a high level. Gotta love this dood

[@Whats_Goody]

He didnt buy his way into anything but dont dare confuse funded rich boy with rich parents paying for his whole life for him to chase his dreams biking and then driving? With anything grass roots. Hes a rich boy drifter since day one. And he cant hide it anymore

[@Bloomshot1k]

@@Whats_Goody funded rich bit or not bro he fucking puts in the work to gain the skill needed to where he is. When Coffman came to fd with all that money and team y’all wasn’t saying anything about him buying his way to fd right. Same shit boy with daddies money right. But at the end of the day who ever money it is skill was never bought for Adam.

[@TylervHayes]

I started watching him when he was a pro BMX rider. He’s grown wayyyy past that now

[@MadK306]

And people were pissed when he got his pro deal because they said he only got it because he had a following on youtube, haters gonna hate

[@brandon_doe]

@@MadK306well I’m sure you’d understand why people were upset if you knew how sports work… dude didn’t earn it the same way everyone else does. Gotta compete in amateur and win in order to make it to the big leagues. Same way with fd. Gotta compete in pro am and place top 8 in the series for your fd license just like every other driver….

[@ullysys9752]

I love lz, i used to bmx and watch his vlogs with no jumper in the beginning but when he got his Nissan 180sx and started drifting around town his glow up is downright inspiring

[@dustyice3110]

Welcome to the racing world, money buys opportunity. Just the way it is.

[@Sunshns]

However, it is not true for this case. Everyone needs to purchase a license, they start with prospec (which used to be pro2) and if they finish with good enough results, they can then move up to FD Pro, which was exactly what happened to Adam. He performed well enough in Pro 2 to qualify for Pro.

[@brandon_doe]

@@Sunshnsbut he did not in fact compete in pro am to earn his pro2 license

[@Sunshns]

@@brandon_doe You don't need to either. You can compete anywhere in the world and make an application to compete in FD Pro 2 where they will evaluate if you are fit for it as long as you can prove any history in competitive drifting.

[@brandon_doe]

@@Sunshns but that’s the point. Competing in an actual series. Drivers from different countries aren’t immune to that

[@Sunshns]

@@brandon_doe I don't get your point. Adam got into FD Pro the same way anyone else can.

[@IdEk5627]

I mean from what he said he did pretty much buy it and also showed he was at a level that he could compete and be competitive. He yes brings a lot of fans but tbh he really doesnt get any special threatment when he is scored on track. I actually feel like he is more critized then anyone else. I see the way they commentate and talk about him and u can feel no body is throwing him a bone anywhere. He has also progressed a lot in his driving and tbh there were many times many people felt the judges decisions were alway pushing decisions that went the other opponents way when everyone else watching seemed to think otherwise. Oh well im just glad he did join and has progressed so much as a driver

[@sturminator344]

Him bringing all of his fans to the sport was an upside but it’s not the reason he was allowed in. It’s literally documented on his KZbin channel him doing the pro 1 and pro 2 comps before Fd and petitioned to get his fd license

[@warpigs4874]

I won’t lie, I didn’t really have a clue what FD was until LZ. Yeah I’ve seen some smaller comps and did some shit with friends 2 decades ago, but had no idea there was professional drifting. So, thanks adam to opening this old guy up to a whole new motor sport!!

[@dallaswitehira5477]

I ain't mad . Your absolutely correct

[@blackwidowmedia4571]

Bros hating 100%

[@luthersmith9423]

Lz did do plenty of comps and he does bring a lot of fans to the sport. But these dudes have been in FD since it started and we can admit Adam lz is getting better each year

[@nielsmeurs2266]

This aged like a fine milk lol

[@aboyanhisbike]

Same thing happened in bmx. That following gets you instant access to whatever you like unfortunately. Still Adam a great dude and deserves all he has.

[@nicholasnereim4071]

Lz had sponsors like anyone else and funded his own fd program for two years before he got signed with rtr he earned it for sure

[@brandon_doe]

He did not in fact earn his fd license. You must compete in pro am and place top 8 in order to earn an fd license.

[@Treaxvour]

None of that is relevant. That's like saying if I won a rock paper scissor comp and they gave me a prolicense that I "earned it" with that rock paper scissors, even though I did it in a way that no other person was able or allowed to.

[@cmamsler]

I hate lz personality, but I definitely don't hate that he brought millions of fans to the sport. Dude literally changed it for the future

[@internettroll1185]

Nah.. not really.. everyone that was in it before is still in it and only a small percentage was gained

[@oneilbasdeo3286]

Can't hate the man

[@Joshua-rp3tm]

Why do u hate his personality? What has he done?

[@leosenpai9380]

Have u met the man? Or judging him just from his videos ?

[@jackg2630]

Sounds like a good business move for the company either way

[@salieribeatz3094]

Make people mad or not, he just won an event, idk what more could you ask from the guy.

[@circleofdrift]

This was from last season. Very proud of LZ on his win

[@twiellie]

Bro it doesn't make me mad in the slightest. Despite being one of the most popular Drifting leagues globally held, the series as a whole was beginning to have it's fall from grace. Felt like FD had hit its peak. You already had so much talent from around the world; Aasbo, Wiecek, Deane, Foust, etc etc. Paying for his license or otherwise, LZ in a small way saved FD. In 2023 the sport is more alive than I've seen it since I started watching in 2012.

[@CanadianOnlooker]

If your negotiating, they could waive the fee on lieu of bringing fans. But how many people could have that equal shot.. if DDE Damon just showed up would he get in pro class?

[@BrockOfBodom]

The way I see it, he is still kicking ass and has brought a ton of eyes onto FD. Not like he doesn’t have the talent to be there, and he’s a massive ambassador for the sport 🤘

[@spacebarkai9048]

BRO...???? I don't think you know how high quality of a drifter he really is he proved it in FD2. Now just because he doesn't get first or even podium most of the time does not mean he just bought his way in. SAmmit made a good point in saying that he(sammit) could go into FDJ1 but he just doesn't feel that he would do very well. However Adam LZ wanted a even higher level of competition then he had in FD2 even though I don't think he was truly ready to go up when he did he most defiantly is now. BTW this isn't just an opinion I have and I don't want to argue with about this but I didn't just make it up. Also most people "technically" purchases their licions because the amount of money needed to travel to all of the FD2 locations is obscured, because I know many people who could easily go to pro 2 but they just don't have the money for it.

[@brandon_doe]

You have to compete in pro am to earn your pro2 license. He did not do that like most of the field. So he really kinda did buy his way in…. Just saying. Also Sammit is in fdj now. And he’s doing just about as bad as Adam lol

[@christoszaferatos1391]

Well hes top 5 in champion ship so glad he did

[@TheCommentedOne]

I totally agree with this clip.

[@tomsmith6416]

This clearly made some people mad 😂

[@MuckG]

If anything drivers should be happy he joined the sport. Getting more fans for FD helps everyone in the sport not just LZ. It’s a win win for everyone.

[@brandon_doe]

It really only brings in more fans on streams. The events were just as full before Adam came along. I’ve been around fd since like 2010…

[@mudshotit]

@@brandon_doe and what do the fans on streams do? brings them money.

[@brandon_doe]

@@mudshotit nowhere near as much money as it brings in live in person lol. Sure it’ll bring in money eventually(barely) through the viewership. But what even is that percentage?

[@CH0NKIN]

I heard of Adam but never got into FD until he started competing at that level and that’s where I got introduced to all of the best and now all I watch and keep up with is FD lol. Love it

[@CoyWhite]

the editor of this uses premiere pro and did not add crossfades between all their cuts and I’m having a small aneurism bc click pop ptsd god I hate premiere.

[@ElishaBittock]

American FD would’ve been dead if it wasn’t for how much viewership LZ brings. It’s numbers had been declining before he joined. As much as many people hate to admit it KZbinrs & celebrities joining Motorsports is a huge benefit to the future of them.

[@Pigpensblanket]

But dude proved his point that his drifting skills are on point😮

[@malakhigordon7400]

You know, I had never even thought about that. When so many people worked so hard to get into that shit

[@Neatscribble]

Who’s mad about this…? I don’t see anybody up in arms about it

[@trevormckeehen2010]

It seems like people think it’s hard to get into fd. If you can bring a competitive car that passes tech and you can actually drive it and find your race program then you can drive fd. The process for obtaining licenses is just to keep some idiot who has no business behind the wheel from going out there and hurting someone.

[@DavidProctor21]

The biggest difference between pro1 and pro2 is the money each team has access to to bring to the table. I will say that he did fast track pro 2 to pro 1 because of his massive fan base and pre established brand partnerships. He earned his spot in pro 2. The sheer number of fans he brought though means I wouldn’t be surprised if FD reached out to him initially to push him up to the “main event” state and bring his fans with him. His performance so far and improvement within Pro 1 shows he deserves to be there. Even his first pro 1 season he wasn’t a slouch, he was behind the other drivers but he could hold a line and wasn’t a reckless danger to other drivers.

[@brandon_doe]

He did not earn his pro2 license. He never competed in a pro am series and placed top 8 to EARN his pro2 license just like everyone else…. Also I’m willing to bet fd did not reach out to him. Why else would he petition?

[@DavidProctor21]

@@brandon_doe he did compete in pro am though… and he did place top 8. 2016-17 he did pro am alongside Trevor from motion auto and placed 3rd. That was his ticket into pro 2.

[@brandon_doe]

@@DavidProctor21 that was not in fact what happened. He ran one single pro am event. Not the series….

[@williamvigneault1888]

I’d like to hear more about this, not even mad as an Adam fan, just all I’ve ever heard about it was he was all of a sudden building a car for pro-spec with Enjuku but afterwards he did earn his Pro license by his finishing place in pro-spec class so I just wanna know where the all but basically bought his license part comes in? Assuming for the pro-spec series? Kinda voids that though after he earned his pro license but that’s just from what I know as of now

[@DNRracing]

He petitioned for his license for pro 2 because there wasn’t any qualifying events near him. He used his “driver resume” to petition and got it.

[@DNRracing]

Where he then got top 3 in Texas and earned his pro 1 license.

[@evor6s]

Just here after LZ’s win at E Town, and his seat time in the Supra really transferring to the mustang 🤔 Sure took a while for him to fully show his potential, but he can drive for sure. That backwards entry against James Deane was baller AF.

[@PartyTurkey77]

LZ. Catches a lot of hate for being a KZbinr. He has won plenty of events before FD. He even talked about it on the drift podcast thing. He had to basically put a winning portfolio together and petition for his license. How do you think drivers from other series not associated with FD come over? There have been a ton of FD drivers that have done this before; Pat Goodin, Rob Primo, Geoff Stoneback, Mike Pollard…. The list goes on and on. Just because he isn’t a great driver out of his first season doesn’t mean anything. Hell, look at Denofa….. how many years did he compete before ppl started noticing him, hell look at some of the guys who are still driving (Kyle Mohan) who somehow still have a license and haven’t podiumed lol

[@That1E_K1129]

And gets an automatic sponsorship from RTR and AutoZone 🤣😂

[@JoeIsTheGoat]

From what I remember the year he joined FD he was gonna go in as Pro2(Prospec now) and they only had a few rounds of FD and the few rounds they had combined both pro and pro2 so he said atp he might as well go pro because all the events were the same and he had all the credentials for it.

[@Monkeymike68918]

In his early videos, he stated the same thing when he got a BMX contract. It makes sense. Need the fans to get the money

[@Bunguth]

Wells he’s kicking everyone’s ass so props to him

[@bimmerdriftbuild9606]

You can buy your way into any form or racing, it’s always been that way and always will be

[@gangstahhh]

Especiallh motorsport

[@samuelhoward8504]

If you watch the videos from back then he starts building the s15 then realizes the only other cars to drive with of the same caliber are in FD except now Klutch kickers has grown so much he could run the s15 in it. But why do that when his e36 seems to perform way better than the s15 ever did.

[@antoniestrada1972]

I was actually stoked on him going into FD but then the more I thought about it he just didn't take it serious and more as content creation

[@thesamaffliction1572]

His popularity obviously helped him but the guy is winning proam events against other FD drivers so clearly there’s talent there that got him most of the way. His following just allowed him to pursue a career in the sport because even when he loses, he’s making content which generates more income to carry on investing

[@brandon_doe]

He literally won maybe 3-4 events. He never actually competed in a pro am series to earn his pro2 license. Klutch kickers is not a pro am event btw.

[@thesamaffliction1572]

@@brandon_doe That’s my mistake then, I knew klutzy kickers wasn’t (although considering the rose in quality and competitors, it’s easily on par now) but I did think other series he competed in counted.

[@brandon_doe]

@@thesamaffliction1572 no worries. But nah he really only competed in a few pro am events. They weren’t all the same series either

[@Itskylewalker]

As a long time FD enthusiast (2007)I don’t see any problem with it.

[@avikz4425]

Apart of drifting is sponsors and money, it is indeed a costly sport to fight for titles. He has both the talent and money to compete

[@Mr.nooooo]

He is helping keep it alive

[@Faydurr]

Not true? Started grass roots. Clutch kickers. Then competed in formula 2 which anyone can do if they have a Cert. car and he won his D1 license. LZ came from nothing. Has built an empire. And has remained the same since day one. A true genuine guy with talent. Stop crying about it.

[@AussieDriftCo]

He petitioned and they specially brought him in to bring more fans into the sport and it worked, I think he should have earnt his license tho because he still isn't anywhere close to the level of the other drivers

[@StanleyKubick1]

So what? Every single motorsport has always had drivers who purchased their seats. That's standard in racing.

[@rickynear748]

I mean true but he worked so hard to get there man I watch him when he was making bmx tutorials in his moms drive way to a full blown compound only KZbinr I really watched grow he deserves it in my opinion he worked his ass off 💯

[@usrnmeunknwn8691]

Said like people dont buy their way into drivers seats in all forms of motortsport all the time. Could also be argued that bringing "so many fans to the sport" is worth a lot. Monetarily in the short term but essential for sports to grow and survive in up and coming drivers/builder longer term.

[@austingnz]

Lance Stroll has entered the chat. He couldn't agree more with you lol

[@rgbedits7026]

I mean we got signed pro bmx for similar reasons. But I still like the guy. Super humble

[@Kritique]

He literally did Pro 2 , whys everyone hating on him because there jealous af, you will never be him lol go and worry bout your own life.

[@SawDawify]

Lol, people need to hear the podcsst though. They edit these reels to be super controversial sounding, because you dont have any context whatsoever.

[@puffalufagus7710]

Well I’d say after last night in English town beating out chelsey denofa and james deane two well experienced drivers he’s earned his spot in FD

[@Lizardking.420]

Adam lz is a sick lad. He brings Barra skids to formula driftskis

[@kirkmoore5951]

Dudes will hate on lz for being popular no matter what. Same shit happened to him with bikes and is why he transitioned to cars in the first place

[@aylahughes9185]

its the same model he used for bmx back in the day. leverage engagement above talent.

[@CodeineAbdulJabbar]

It’s not like he was completely inexperienced. He got his seat in pro 2 and won ROTY to get a pro 1 seat.

[@heyyyitjayybird7887]

He did a lot of drift events tho and earned his spot

[@carsonlando]

Facts can’t make people made but it did help the sport that’s for sure

[@sbvikings30]

Yea saying straight up incorrect things usually makes people mad

[@jra5624]

LZ is the reason I got interested in drifting at all. And now I follow almost all pro-am and pro FD drivers. I love the sport - one which I thought was just silly at one time.

[@marcoshuerta8661]

Oh lord people say that same thing about Brodie Smith, LZ can drift better then most 90%of people that are not in FD where is he supposed to go from there???

[@ArtilleryAndy]

I mean let’s be honest we all know Adam has an amazing amount of talent that got him further. Yea money was a great tool he has enough skill to obtain in the first place.

[@P4le_Rider]

My guy just put everyone on the trailer a couple weeks ago... He definitely deserves his fd license..

[@circleofdrift]

This is a year old lol

[@dylanbaker8188]

Not really tho, he did compete in pro am through lone star drift, a sanctioning body of fd licensing. Did not reach the position needed to obtain a fd pro 2 license do to not being consistent enough of going to events. However the events he did go to he made podiums

[@latrinedveen]

He worked for it but his fan base played a factor when applying for fd either way he earned it by now for sure

[@gabrielantonio3382]

Similar thing happened with his pro bmx career that upset some people as well

[@kylegilpin1023]

And yet he is one of the better drivers why are people hating on how he got in who freaking cares you enjoy watching fd so watch it for who you like

[@CAl3OOS3]

what episode is this from

[@MrBear231]

I mean the dude can *ucking drift. When you have the skills to advance forward you should be rewarded

[@Treaxvour]

If you have the skills, it should be nothing for you to jump through the pro am hoops like all the other drivers. Impatience and entitlement

[@robertmoreland7527]

It is true. But don’t be acting jealous or offended. If you had the chance you’d take it too. Ps not an LZ fan, but we are cool.

[@AudibleVisibIe]

This dude has no idea lol

[@gvalant11]

It’s just business. People don’t go into business to loose money too much risk. Having someone like him the hypes the sport and gets more a$$es in the seat is all that matters. Life isn’t fair but he has work very hard to become what he’s become. I don’t know him but I’ve been watching for years and it doesn’t take a psychic to realize the man is driven. He deserves short cuts because of his accomplishments because at the end of the day numbers don’t lie.