Should AMD Be Afraid? - Intel Alder Lake

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Intel has been taking its lumps from AMD for the last few years, but their new CEO and their newest chip, the 12th-gen Alder Lake, might be the marks for a comeback! Anthony explains and shows off their latest gear in today's video!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - It's ALDER LAKE time!
0:44 - Pressbox unboxing
1:38 - Alder Lake expanded look
2:56 - Alder Lake processor unveil and size comparison
5:27 - Z690 Socket impressions
6:34 - ASUS ROG Z690 Unboxing
7:50 - ASUS Ryujin II 360 cooler
8:44 - Sponsor - Seasonic!
9:04 - ASUS Z690 Maximus Hero Motherboard unboxing
9:20 - DDR5 Notes
10:22 - IO Information
10:49 - Final thoughts

[@freaky2xd]

I wish I needed an upgrade, but the "sad" truth is that I really don't, my tech brain just wants one.

[@lurick]

Same here, I don't need an upgrade at all but new tech is that shiny thing that keeps showing up with something new or interesting to keep me hooked.

[@freaky2xd]

@@lurick the only thing holding me back is my bank account :D

[@theethicsofliberty4642]

🤔 ... What will be the compatibility and efficiency of these new processors with VMs ... ???

[@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69]

What sucks is when you really want top of the line stuff but you’re broke.

[@smitus_hell7564]

i'd wait for amds counter cpu

[@48rolo]

that "Anthony" angry voice in the background at 4:22, just love it

[@darkmann12]

fucking gold man

[@ilovefunnyamv2nd]

just because I know its ok, they're pads not pins..doesn't mean I like it. PLEASE WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

[@starwarssith]

I think that was Alex

[@gamechanger2324]

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[@juliojimenez9794]

That's Brandon.

[@crmb]

Staff: “You’re sliding the CPU. You making viewers uncomfortable” Everyone: Don’t worry 😉. We already remember when Linus drops his GPU.

[@thewiirocks]

It seriously was making me uncomfortable. 😬

[@camreynes]

@@thewiirocks it wouldn't damage the CPU and @crmb his name is Anthony

[@noname76787]

Linus Drop Tips

Or that $10,000 server CPU from Intel that he ended up killing.

[@thewiirocks]

@@camreynes I don't disagree. I trust Anthony. Doesn't stop me from cringing when I see it. My mind is still thinking there's bendable pins back there and static discharges that can ZAP the thing. Just.... uncomfortable. But then again, I don't handle hundreds of CPUs every week. So I still trust Anthony even if I'm uncomfortable.

[@jamesryan4425]

“Alder lake will be harder to find than Alderaan. Looking for power in Alder wrong places.” - Darth Vader

[@neth77]

Fuck i laughed

[@jamesryan4425]

@@neth77 thanks friend. I chuckled writing this too

[@ruebo2817]

It’s one of the best I’ve seen in a long long time

[@Eng586]

Scalpers probably ready

[@greg1030]

Ha, clever phrasing. But seriously, my I want my next very overdue Windows laptop to be 4 or 6 core with discrete graphics. I do no gaming or anything in 4K. But it must be fast enough to render and do simple scene deletions of 1080p quality video-without crazy heat and fan noise, running Vegas software. And it must fully support ECC RAM, which virtually no consumer level motherboard and processors do. So equipped current model HP and Dell business laptops run $2.3K minimum. Alder lake and supporting 10nm architecture is supposed to run 30% faster than comparable ECC RAM supporting Xeon 14nm chips-which presumably would thus run cooler and quieter overall. But reports dated late October said not to expect Alder lake laptops until around this time next year, and that they will only support ECC RAM in the new DD5 format, costing over 50% more than DD4 versions. As for AMD, searching from early July through September, I might have found just two laptops with ECC RAM for at least $3K.

[@Eli-zb2yj]

"This cpu socket is similar too..... what is similar too i don't know" -anthony 2021

[@chhavimanichoubey9437]

literally came into comments for replying in this comment hahhah lol hahahaha

[@oriensxs]

Look like he was about to mention AMD Epic but decided to shut up.

[@VardhanShrivastava]

Threadripper

[@FirestormX9]

@@VardhanShrivastava yep correct, Threadripper. It's similar to Threadripper.

[@gajbooks]

It's actually most similar to Xeon Scalable. They have had the candybar aspect ratio for years.

[@anthonyfn]

The low-end CPUs of these upcoming generations will be very exciting.

[@KuntalGhosh]

Actually no. These motherboards with pcie gen 5 will cost a ton 😂

[@tridiots3681]

@@KuntalGhosh imagine if some just ship with PCIE 4.0

[@KuntalGhosh]

@@tridiots3681 even gen 4 requires lot of shielding. Like what we used to have in the very low segment of 50$ motherboards we won't have that anymore. It will probably start at like 100-150$ at minimum for even the most basic board. And z690 will start upwards of 300$ and high end boards like the maximus will probably be near 1000$ or more.

[@tridiots3681]

@@KuntalGhosh $600 might be a better estimate instead of $1000, but yea, don't expect to see much budget,

[@KuntalGhosh]

@@tridiots3681 there is already 4 or 6 1000$ boards for am4 and lga1151 sockets There is a 3000$ x399 board.

[@matheuswohl]

you guys could keep a set of cheap calipers on this set for whenever the need to measure some small thing quickly arises, like the thickness of the CPUs

[@MrBaskins2010]

3D printing has taught me calipers are crucial for any life situation

[@tubanbodyslammer9125]

Honestly cheap calipers are one of the best inventions. Idk why people insist on wasting so much money on calipers.

[@LtdJorge]

@@tubanbodyslammer9125 for the fuckton of precision they can provide, I guess

[@abhimaanmayadam5713]

@@tubanbodyslammer9125 proper encoders so you get accurate measurements and proper battery life (some cheap calipers like killing batteries)

[@WarPigstheHun]

@@abhimaanmayadam5713 some cheap calipers like having poor battery covers and like having batteries literally fall out half the time (thanks harbour freight tools!)

[@midimusicforever]

You know you made it big when international multibillion dollar companies stand in line to drop high end hardware on your desk just so that you maybe, hopefully, would take the time to review them. Congrats on your succeess, LTT crew!

[@Horrordelic]

It is very cheap advertising for these giant companies :)

[@NewAgeDIY]

I think they worked very hard to get to the top tier. Doing right from day one!

[@midimusicforever]

@@NewAgeDIY They for sure have earned being where they are. If what I wrote came off as I thought otherwise, then that's unfortunate, because that's definitely not what I meant. I mearly mean to say that it's yet another sign they they are doing something (or rather, a lot of things) very right.

[@TechyBen]

1:05 Intel: "Ok, who accidentally sent the giant monster CPU to Anthony? Now were gonna have to send the house sized motherboard and the car sized RAM sticks. Gah!"

[@harbl99]

Big man: big hardware. Checks out.

[@jericho86]

What is this a computer for? Giants?

[@Affihnel]

wall-mounted macroATX MoBo

[@eomoran]

Take a shot every time LTT mention that they've moved the chip onto the memory sticks

[@Sammie1053]

...so two shots?

[@pieterrossouw8596]

The 3600 is the 2500K of its time. I'll probably use it for about 8 years too. Glad to see Intel doing something compelling though

[@kuyans3889]

got PCIE gen 4, 12 threads and decently fast cores. the 3600 is going to be a good CPU for a long time.

[@MrFuzziiWuzzii]

I upgraded to a 3600 from a 2500k 2 weeks ago and it’s a refreshing improvement. Great budget with great longevity.

[@pretzel3779]

@@kuyans3889 nah. the 10400f and 10600k are better values in most places. also the 11400 if you can find one

[@atisbasak]

@@pretzel3779 Power hungry crap. The Ryzen 5600X or the i5 12600K are better.

[@kuyans3889]

@@pretzel3779 that's true. the 3600 seems to have creeped up in price lately.

[@trevzy91]

These videos are great, Anthony has a casual conversation about some techy stuff and it feels really natural.

[@dave4shmups]

Great video, and great explanation by Anthony about DDR5 RAM, and everything else in this video!

[@stelp7617]

Sponsor segue was smooth as butter, look out Linus! also, seems Asus REALLY likes Noctua all of a sudden, I like that.

[@Aepek]

11:54 whomever edited this video….BANG UP JOB. The background music while Anthony is talking reminds me of a sad, but “mystic” type ending to a movie that was intriguing and kinda leaves ya wanting 😌

[@joshuacastle8701]

Definitely subscribed to you. You make me feel like I understand what you’re talking about, and I’m about to build my first PC and have almost no clue what any of that technical terms are, but I feel like you can teach me!

[@Mineav]

I hope Windows will allow you to assign tasks to either the efficiency or performance cores, so that you the ability to choose.

[@aspartam_]

Yeah that would be cool so you could like Render something in the background while gaming without any issues

[@renegeeder]

Bigger chance the first comments website doesn't give you ransomware than that happening properly.

[@prateekkanavi7683]

Looking at the LTT video of this, I don't think windows will :(

[@chessguy246]

No. You are using a computer and it is allocatting tasks every nano second. You, as a human, arent going to help anything. You take 15 seconds to change a setting

[@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589]

According to the LTT video, the core assignment function is on the CPU itself, so I don't think so

[@hoodio]

Anthony reviewing a cpu: i see, the ihs is this certain shape that makes it look like that, ohh

[@davidobutt]

Explained the new tech available with this gen when very well as always Anthony good work bud

[@SaarN1337]

Heh, we got 4 cores from Intel for such a long time. Look at what competition does! More cores, more different kind od cores, stacked cache, oddly shaped sockets! Neat! Without AMD the 12609 would have been a 4core/8t 14nm I7 running at a 100MHz higher than last year

[@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL]

No, it's all Pat's doing tbh.

[@alexamderhamiltom5238]

naah, it will be 2core + puny 2cores.

[@MendAmar]

Tbh Pat Gelsinger does the work because he is Engineer. If Bob Swan was still in CEO then it wouldn't have 16 cores 24 threads on 12th Generation CPUs.

[@defeqel6537]

@@MendAmar this design was likely started 5 years ago

[@zoeherriot]

more cores will help, but X86 is a dead end. It has so many fundamental flaws that you know Intel is behind the scenes looking to do something closer to the M1.

[@lethalantidote]

How are those efficiency cores going to be handled by the OS? I am specifically wondering about it's use for server applications. I have a K8s cluster running in my home lab made of my old gaming rigs. Will containers allocated a single (logical) core get a dedicated efficiency core if available or will it just be thrown anywhere it fits? Will it even matter? Will container orchestration even get along well with CPUs made of drastically different types of cores - as opposed to the current designs with all cores operating at similar performance/efficiency levels? I would love to see a video on this, and should compliment your other homelab and server videos.

[@Navhkrin]

Alder lake has its own Thread director which basically gives OS feedback about which thread to run which code at. I know this sounds very abstract, unfortunately we will have to wait a bit until we havve more technical details.

[@CanIHasThisName]

Windows 11 has changes done to the scheduler to make use and properly utilise the two different types of cores. How it performs in an OS without the adjustments remains to be seen. It honestly is a comparable transition as going from single to multi core CPUs. It may take a while before everyone adjusts.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

@@Navhkrin ya its not like this is a totally new thing, windows at least should have support for doing this sort of thing thanks to mobile and other processors

[@gajbooks]

Threads are paused and resumed on cores thousands of times a second. If you're slamming the whole system, a thread could be swapped in and out of a performance and efficiency core and it wouldn't even know except that it dropped a tiny bit of performance (which was gained on another process which was put on the high performance core instead). A task probably lives on the efficiency cores until it starts eating up more CPU time than the efficiency core can offer, then it gets promoted to a performance core for a while until usage goes back down (or all the performance cores are clogged). I'm sure you could force tasks to use efficiency cores with affinity just like you can force them onto slower cores with Ryzen if you really wanted minimal power usage.

[@Ebalosus]

@@AsbestosMuffins hopefully better operating systems like Linux and BSD also support it as well

[@ddc171]

Anthony's voice is so calming

[@Gamingtechgg]

so true

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

So smooth, just like the "segway" to the sponsor

[@NeckbeardIndustries]

If (more like when) Intel keeps fucking about and changing sockets every year, that'll be a huge turn off for me. AM4 has been a blessing, being able to justify the purchase of a high end mobo with the intention of cpu upgrades in the future was a big selling point of 1st gen Ryzen for me.

[@ridefast0]

agreed, the AM4 socket is still a marvel of our times, and AMD support has given a great life-cycle extension to my old B450 motherboards.

[@cavick]

That sponsor segue was super smooth sir. Well played.

[@DanSong47]

Gotta wait for AMD’s Ryzen refresh to have a fair comparison

[@confusedemoji4317]

@@drew4678 thats why we are going to wait for amd's 6000 series. To compare it lol

[@justassimple8328]

@@drew4678 Well we wait... I'm not Intel side or AMD side but it's better to have choices and comparisons to make

[@grayscale420]

@@drew4678 I hope that this is ironic.

[@DanSong47]

@@drew4678 If you had half a brain and minor knowledge about tech you would know Intel and AMD had exchanges about who was the trailblazer of innovation throughout the decades. My guess is you don’t even know AMD’s Athlon was a leader, AMD was the first to break 1Ghz processor speed, Radeon was a product of ATI before being acquired by AMD etc. My comment is not about fanboyism unlike yours, it’s about innovation. Competition in an industry creates innovation and advances in technology which directly benefits us consumers. I have to remind you that not long ago, a 16 core CPU for HEDT cost $2000USD before AMD’s Ryzen.

[@Ryan-re1rs]

@@drew4678 yes. They kicked them in the teeth for 3 years now.

[@S1LVERHAND77]

5:34 lmao nice one Anthony.

[@mastaw]

Okay so i wasn't the only one lol

[@vapourmile]

I loved that. That was great. I liked the calm delivery. It was clearly meant to be an early introduction and not a full review but still brought to light some good information about tech surrounding 12th gen Intel products.

[@waveformdistortion]

LOL the same thing happened to Paul of Paul's Hardware with the pull tab ripping on the Asus box.

[@sdewey4152]

Can anything truly "handle" Windows Update though? The thing is a god damn joke, I've turned it off about 3,000,000 times and it's still running and randomly causes delays in tasks.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

No. It can't.

[@anikroyale]

I never messed with Windows update and everything is goes really smooth for me.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@anikroyale If you never succesfully killed Update, you don't actually know all the delays and errors you may have had because of it that you could have avoided.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

You need SSD. Seriously, Windows Update is brutal on HDD and I used to hate it, until I got a SSD.

[@lynspyre]

Have you tried disabling it from the Policy Group?

[@wadem4503]

I just upgraded my PC to Ryzen 5000 and whilst all these Hollywood numbers are great only people with unreasonably deep pockets will be paying the early adopter tax for this stuff. The question really is if they would recommending upgrading if they actually had to pay for components.

[@MikhaelAhava]

Most people including youtuber’s I’ve heard them say wait for at least 2-3 years before upgrading unless you really need extra performance in for example engineering, rendering, and simulations.

[@NXDL25]

Just like RTX, first gen of anything is probably not worth buying in the long run. I also upgraded to ryzen 5000 recently, it's a nice and mature platform now compared to ryzen 1000.

[@DeToxCommunity]

@@NXDL25 You say that, but the completely unpredictable market conditions have made 20 series buyers the real winners lol. Score a similar tier 30 series card at MSRP and it might as well be a free upgrade, fail to and at least you can use ray tracing and DLSS.

[@gelinrefira]

Like most honest reviewers will say, don't upgrade unless you have to. If your PC works and works well for your purposes, don't upgrade just because there are new shinies. They are only recommending this upgrade if you are looking for upgrades. If you post in these forum asking if you should upgrade to Alder Lake if you have already Ryzen 5000s/3000s or Intel 9/10 series, most people will say why even bother?

[@mdlsvensson]

An Anthony video? Just for me? What a treat!

[@Justakatto]

that segue was so smooth wow

[@LordoftheDuat78]

I'm looking for that AMD price drop across the 5000 series CPU range

[@tuckerhiggins4336]

They just canceled Zen 3 threadripper because of supply, so that won't happen

[@ThatNorma]

@@tuckerhiggins4336 where the hell did u see that AMD canceled zen 3 threadrippers?

[@necrospencer658]

@@ThatNorma they did apparently

[@CanIHasThisName]

Unlikely. AMD raised the prices due to supply issues. If they lowered them, they might end up without a product to sell in some market. This is the one thing where Intel continues to have a massive advantage no matter what. They may have some shortcomings in their own manufacturing, but they actually have their own manufacturing.

[@ThatNorma]

@@CanIHasThisName amd did not raise prices because of supply issues. Infact amd manages quite the good yield on the waffers and that was not the reason at all. The reason was simply because they actually hold the performance crown and having current prices on their cpus its totally justified by being a market leader.

[@zeekjones1]

My 2700x is still more than enough for my use case, and since the AM4 socket is EoL I expect upgrades to be relatively cheap.

[@itsdokko2990]

AMD made a pro gamer move right there. if im not mistaken, i heard that they made an A320 mobo work with the latest gen of Ryzen. Very poggers, coming from a current and long time Intel user

[@eugkra33]

I ll be curious to see if this thing thermal throttles when overclocking on the Noctua NH-D15cooler they are using instead. But maybe he'll be using the 360 rad for OC.

[@krisch7]

Anthony and his sponsor segue transition is damnn smooooootthhh

[@ThorDyrden]

Anthony: "it's in here, cause I'm already benchmarking it"... Roman der8auer: "Pah you are late mate - mine already is in the Delidder, cause I already killed it" 😅

[@anony_meows]

8:42 i'd imagine asus is not going to be too happy about this lol

[@retrowarp572]

6:13 Socket 775 locking mechanism is back baby!

[@khoanguyenavia]

The socket reminds me of the LGA 775 days, when the socket is hinged backwards from where the retention arm is swinging

[@andyartmaster101]

Even though I don't understand the technical jargon I still love hearing you guys talk about it. Anthony you're a Rockstar man.

[@de_mon2084]

Since the cpu will decide which cores to use for what task… how will it behave if you use it with virtual machines? For example you use proxmox for your OS and set up virtual machines. You will need to decide how many cores you want the machine to have though will it be able to switch between p and e cores while running or will it basically roll the dice on startup if it gets p or e cores and until you restart you will be stuck with either high power consumption or low performance?

[@K31TH3R]

You are asking the right questions. I guarantee one of the issues with Alder Lake and the thread scheduler will be software only utilizing E-cores until developers recompile their software to cater to Intel's dumpster fire. But the motherboard and RAM was $600 alone before you even bought the CPU, so you'll just have to take Intel's word that you're absolutely demolishing a 10900k and 5950X with your 8 mobile Skylake cores. lol

[@theobserver4214]

@@K31TH3R did you forget there’s P cores too. Besides, if there’s issues you can disable the E cores in case it causes trouble, which nets you AVX-512 again and a superior Rocket Lake (which is no longer a heater thanks to 10nm). We’ll have to wait and see but this looks to be a very good design that could be massively improved in the next generation.

[@TastyDoorstop]

Anthony video are the best.. its like a best friend talking to you.

[@warlojesserbelandres2896]

Great unboxing Anthony! 👍 We want more in-depth review of various stuff with you in the future so we wish that you could do something to improve your health. 🙏🙏

[@rare6499]

Hi to my future self when I come back in ten years time to rewatch for nostalgia.

[@tj71520]

Hi to your future self and my future self. I am still rocking my old 2016 i7 6700k with 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHZ and a GTX1080.

[@rare6499]

@@tj71520 hello to your current and future self. The GTX 1080 will live forever!!

[@tj71520]

@@rare6499 hehe. Yes let's hope that. I am so glad I decided to get one back in 2016.

[@TwilkieBe]

"Do the compilation on the efficiency core" said no developer ever. :-)

[@chrisdpratt]

Indeed. Even in this video, you keep hearing stuff like this is so awesome because you can move tasks to the efficiency cores to free up the performance cores... Or you can just have all performance cores and it doesn't matter. There's a reason big.LITTLE architecture permeated mobile: it's all about squeezing out every joule of energy from the battery. On desktop, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[@ivangerginov5648]

@@chrisdpratt Exactly. I find it strange how nobody in the comment section talks about it. Why would you ever need efficiency cores on a desktop machine that's plugged to the outlet...

[@lexsanderz]

give me more cache. they call it game cache but we all know it's compile cache to feed the beast.

[@prateekpanwar646]

@@ivangerginov5648 To write "16 cores" on the box

[@DGao-zz5vq]

Is there any reason to suggest that compilers can't simultaneously utilize both clusters? I'm pretty sure ray tracing renderers can.

[@all.day.day-dreamer]

This guy reminds me of Rocky Dennis from the movie Mask. Incredible courage for him to get in front of the camera with his condition. Going to sub to his channel based solely on the bravery he is displaying. Huge thumbs up!

[@magellan124]

great review. preordered

[@MasterThief117]

Damn, Anthony is just amazing. Plus that segue into the Seasonic sponsor break was 😩👌

[@piccolosan19]

2 Anthony vids before 2pm?! Blessed youtube premium never let me cancel 😊

[@Matt43]

Nailed the sponsor segue... keep killing it Anthony!

[@biggs7109]

love when the box is imposing!!

[@Kevinb1821]

I can see this being great for laptops but is it really needed to have efficient cores in a desktop pc?

[@gajbooks]

Numerically, more cores is always more efficient than single faster core from a thermal perspective, if software can use the threads. They crammed 8 cores in about the space of 2 and they use very little power, and hence very little thermal budget. Objectively, more cores are always better than faster cores (as AMD recently schooled Intel in). Now, if it makes sense financially vs a 5950x or successor remains to be seen, but for Intel themselves it combines their strengths of good single thread performance with a bit of catch-up in core counts. Like seriously, you can buy the same laptop model with 8 core AMD, or 4 core intel, and the AMD just crushes them in nearly everything including power usage. The only downside is they're too cheap to run Thunderbolt on AMD.

[@Napoleonic_S]

Haven't you seen the new Apple CPU?

[@MrKeepItTrill]

Staff: “You’re sliding the CPU. You making viewers uncomfortable” Actually it was all the talking about length and thickness.

[@aaronf1319]

Love you Anthony, great unboxing.

[@Georgeinthejungle]

Hey, that is a cool looking desk pad. Where did you guys get it ?

[@jeuno880]

Sooo..... for people in US, they probably can request an additional bracket for the new form. For people in other country..... most likely need to buy a new cooler, and make sure its a new batch that comes with new adapter.

[@shadyweaver]

Arctic, Noctua and Cooler Master you can order an adapter on their website or email them. I had to get me some AM4 mounts when I reused some of my old stuff. Not sure about the other brands, though, but emailing works most of the time.

[@jeuno880]

@@shadyweaver Dunno. Throughout my years of PC building, whenever a company offer a free new adapter, they all refuse to send to my country, at south-east asia. The last thing I tried was asking for a replacement I/O shield. I was even ready to pay for the shipping fee.

[@micahalan]

Apple M1 Max and Pro, AMD bringing competition, Intel Alder Lake. Tech advancement is so awesome, can't wait for more!

[@reggiep75]

4:13 - I so hoped he was gonna throw a hissy fit..... *AND HE DID!!* 😂

[@smit816]

You just cant miss out on reviews from Anthony Also lol @4:14 🤣

[@wojciechadamski3919]

Anthony is love, Anthony is life

[@weetjewatikwil1]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaz

[@deadmothersmattress5615]

I love the way Anthony threw ASUS under the bus with that warranty comment for Seasonic.😂

[@beau-urns]

Still a good warranty though

[@hagridsbeardguy1399]

5:34 nice touch :D

[@seoulglo1999]

4:23 Such a dad sounding "ANTHONY!" coming from the background.

[@TechWithSean]

With these and the z690 prices, maybe my 9900K will live another year. (Or until it starts limiting the 3080Ti)

[@anikroyale]

The 9900K is still a areally good chip, and can go for atleast a year or two.

[@thekatanaguy1902]

Still struggling with a 7700k and 1060...

[@Masterrunescapeer]

@@thekatanaguy1902 "struggling". That hardware will be fine for another few years at least, too popular on steam charts for it not to end up being the recommended or at least the min for all games, especially with current graphics and CPU pricing.

[@CriPPle358]

Am I the only person wondering why on a CPU designed for enthusiasts/workstations you would want efficient cores? Sure for laptops where you want to improve battery life it makes sense but their flagship would do better with 16 performance cores and forgetting about the efficient cores, or am I missing something?

[@theobserver4214]

You’re missing something. 4 efficient cores fit in the space of one performance core. So without the 2 4 core cluster, it would only be 10 hyperthreaded Performance cores, or 9 in the case of the i7. A efficient core is still faster than a hyperthreaded core, with less power consumption to boot.

[@KhanSphere]

Not every task will benefit from a high-performance core, and efficient cores will generate less heat/thread, so your "heat capacity" can be spent on the more demanding tasks.

[@timramich]

They're just preparing for governmental energy regulations. They've already done it to power supplies in California. Prepare for the PC to be neutered even more.

[@deavman]

4:20 The hightech version of the scratching nails on the blackboard

[@mblack4d]

Dang that was a sweet segue Anthony!

[@einarabelc5]

Anthony: "It's just us who can show Alder Lake".... Me: Saw this at Jay already.

[@danielTHEgfosji]

By us he meant the press

[@lordofnothing.]

DDR5 should allow for really nice factory overclocked ram. looking forward to that! no more biting your ass trying to overclock your ram without having your system crash all day. (just in time for the Pimax 12k release next christmas^^)

[@scruffypugs1963]

that was literally such a smooth segway to their sponsor that it actually took me a moment to notice lol.

[@jawaring4367]

I want one of those big press kit cards with the sensor on it so bad

[@ejmb1992]

What is the stand for? "You can show Alder lake or Alder lake" Who do you want to host? "Anthony or Anthony?" We know the answer to both!

[@novaexclusives3408]

Intel: “MAKE YOUR FOLLOWERS NOT LOOK AT M1 PRO” Linus: *tears*

[@MendAmar]

No need to talk about M1 Pro. I9-12900HK Beats M1 Max.

[@jlu]

@@MendAmar With twice the power ... lol and you're comparing a desktop chip to a laptop chip 😂

[@MendAmar]

@@jlu HK series is a Laptop processor idiot. K series processors are Desktop.

[@MendAmar]

@@jlu And did I say i9-12900k which is Desktop CPU that beats M1 Max? on the reply I said i9-12900hk which is Laptop CPU that beats M1 Max.

[@DevynCairns]

@@MendAmar but not per watt, not by far. It would be embarrassing if Intel couldn't keep up with the peak performance of the M1, but they have a lot to do on performance/watt and they've tried before and failed to really get close to anything ARM - back when they were still trying to make x86 smartphones a thing. It probably just won't happen. The efficiency/performance cores design is a great thing to have anyway though, for laptops.

[@rahulc0dy]

That sliding really made me😬😬😬

[@MikhaelAhava]

What music is that at the end? It fits so well.

[@abisheksa8594]

Feels like Intel just launched the eleventh gen

[@Sithhy]

They pretty much did

[@EyesackWorley]

We don't talk about 11th gen here

[@WayStedYou]

They did. 11th gen was supposed to be out 6 or 8 months earlier

[@confusedemoji4317]

@@WayStedYou time runs extremely fast. 11th gen felt like it was released yesterday

[@Ballacha]

are the small bois intel's equivalent of ARM?

[@P2PC]

No. ARM refers to the instruction set and surrounding architecture. A little core is just a simplified x86 core with unnecessary features removed to save die space.

[@DNGR369]

That sliding did actually upset my stomach a bit. Appreciate the call

[@Piupiumacher]

For development the p-cores probably do the compilation, while the e-cores handle the IDE.

[@spayder26]

Am I the only one finding quite suspicious how far the cache is from the high performance cores in Alder Lake while at the same time Win11 (co-developed with Intel) had a "bug" making AMD cache latencies artificially slower?

[@awesomenet7628]

Yes, of the only two consumer cpu companies in the world, the one that didn't co-develop windows 11 had more bugs with windows 11. Truly the conspiracy of a generation.

[@ShFred]

For the first 3 minutes of the video I legit thought that thing was actually the new CPU. I was worried about how Anthony is touching the cores with his fingers. Imagine an actual CPU the size of a motherboard...

[@asadava]

I genuinely thought the Alder Lake CPU was the metal card included with the press kit. I was about to go insane.

[@luffytaro689]

How long does it take for laptops with the new gen to come out?

[@t.r.2283]

I am so happy that I sticked to my 2600k . The next upgrade will be great. Can't wait to see what happens

[@rinku5555555]

Me too. Despite he serve me well for a decade, it seems like his time has come. 🥲

[@beta5770]

the 2600k is dope. Been running overclocked for over 9 years

[@fictionalgaming912]

I would love to see some sort of code compile from a review standpoint from Linus. maybe test a packaging of a game project that Unreal Engine has for free? Those are far better for productivity results compared to synthetic benches or a video render. Do some 3D renders as well of something Alex has created....benchmarking CPUs should be really throwing it against the real world of productivity. You only need like 3 games in benchmarking, really don't need a dozen.

[@juliusfucik4011]

But no one really uses cpus for 3d rendering...

[@fictionalgaming912]

@@juliusfucik4011 you right, you right. I meant in terms of like 3D modelling, I know if you are making character models, you need CPU power as well as GPU power. Should have clarified more (ty for reminding me). My underlying thing is that we need better testing methodology with real world applications and uses not just synthetic tests.

[@zigado4017]

That sponsor segue was brilliant

[@mikeygduv]

I’ll be real. At first (awhile back) Anthony came across to me as a sort of a condescending Linux guy. Now he’s one of my favorites to watch. He’s really come out of his shell. Linus really has helped create a super team and empire. I hope things have been smooth and continue smoothly! Such a solid group doing damn good work. Ok I’m being too kind, the Canadian is rubbing off on me. Oh god phrasing!

[@mattdagger1480]

Really hope this beats amd… now that amd is in intels previous position they are raising prices and there’s no one stopping them. We need some better competition for zen right now

[@nonameentered1918]

I'm amazed that Intel had managed to revolutionize CPU architecture by inventing big.LITTLE 15 years after Arm. Truly a market leader.

[@beanman6684]

4:12 i think he meant another way 6:25 Corsair DDR5 looks NICE

[@prefix808]

Fuck yeah Anthony! Always love to see ya on the channel

[@AarPlays]

Is the start satire? AMD has been on top for all of like 2 or 3 years.

[@PX3U]

Thats what he says...

[@AarPlays]

@@PX3U Yup you're right, for some reason I thought he was talking about AMD being on top for "so long". My bad!

[@cnhtol1586]

@@AarPlays according to fanboys intel cpus cant play mario for long time.

[@JoshsBookishVoyage]

"nobody's gonna have an unboxing experience like this outside of the press, so I'm not gonna talk too much about it". Contrast this with the dozens (hundreds?) of Pixel 6 unboxing where the press kit felt like half the discussion.

[@datdudeinred]

Man that sponsor plug was SMOOTH OPERATION.

[@aravindvissamsetty]

Anthony: "... so I won't talk about the unboxing experience too much.." Also Anthony: Talks about the look of lettering on the inside of the lid..

[@ekarolak]

He said "too much" not "not at all"

[@AYgameZ]

this cpu is gonna be a game changer for intel, i know it

[@Herr.Mitternacht]

AMD response will be the real game changer. Their results were done in Windows 11 when the AMD crippling update was still on. Let's wait for the benchmarks but I'm not that impressed

[@allenwalker9928]

@@Herr.Mitternacht well no, all the leaks from before were done on windows 10 where intel had disadvantage, but still 12th bested zen 3 by a wide margin

[@TalesOfWar]

@@allenwalker9928 I'd be pretty pissed if a year newer flagship chip on a new platform with a generation newer I/O wasn't better than last years competing offering.

[@Herr.Mitternacht]

@@allenwalker9928 Intel benchmarks were done using Windows 11. Let's wait and see

[@MarsAudio]

Perfect time to build my first actual desktop lol. Might become an early adopter of DDR5 too.

[@christopher8116]

Where do I buy that motherboard with everything included in a box of that size ?

[@WolfgangBrehm]

I'd rather have 32 efficiency cores.