Should Anastasia (Ethically) Be A Disney Princess?

[@DeltaMarlfox]

As a History grad, this video is pure gold.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

If Disney accepts Anastasia as a D-Princess, they're gonna have to give Don Bluth a lot of credit; and like Sauron, Disney does not share power with anyone!

[@denises9120]

True. It was Don Blush’s way of giving Disney the finger.

[@pvtread5207]

Ohdamn you're right lol especially since don worked on the rescuers. *TAKE THAT DISNEY*

[@Stellra52]

Disney fits the Sauron comparison in so many ways. 😆

[@JJ_R]

Such a shame we can’t get a Russian Disney Princess, unless I’m being stupid and forgot one.

[@kris_creations1338]

A part of me wants her to be a D-Princess cause that gives me hope for more Anastasia merch...but another part of me knows it’s never gonna happen because Disney is petty towards Don Bluth and Putin would 100% say no, soooooooooooooo........

[@lovinani7]

Kim, you cray. "In the Dark of the Night" is a bop 👌

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Even if some people want to think of Anastasia as a Disney Princess, as we all know she'll never officially be one because you know if Disney wanted to make Anastasia one of their products then they would've thought to make the Anastasia film first, but Don Bluth beat them to it...i know everything i said is obvious but surely on some level you all know what i mean.

[@patax144]

I know what you mean, but that was in the 90s the company was completely different, under different leadership, with different goals, Disney has changed a lot in the last 30 years, so maybe they could think of capitalizing on Anastasia, just saying. They could have passed it on back then, but right now they own it and they can use it for whatever they want

[@Igorcastrochucre]

If Disney wants, they could remake the movie in either CG or live-action and pass that version as truly theirs. Problem is, this whole video is filled with reasons why they shouldn't even touch that movie.

[@ceresco_]

anastasia brings back many nostalgic memories to me. just sitting in front of the tv looking at her dancing in the snow. but I kinda doubt she'd be considered one even tho I always saw her as a dprincess

[@OhSkyeLanta]

“Breeding pair” 10/10 will never regret following you

[@BrightIdeaPony]

I had absolutely no idea Round Trip had Navajo ancestry! That does make him uniquely qualified to weigh in on the historical inaccuracies of 90s princess movies, and kudos for getting his take for your collab! 👏

[@CarringtonMorgan3342]

Thank you so much for saying that the Romanovs were related to the British Royal Family. And not only that, the Romanovs were also related to the Belgian, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish, Spanish, and Danish Royal families. Most people don't know this.

[@CarringtonMorgan3342]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot So true.

[@lizmurray6975]

Very insightful video. Never expected to get a history lecture on this channel but it was good. It was nice to see you bring on someone more qualified to talk about Pocahontas. Greatly appreciate all the effort that went into this video

[@SteamClockWork]

I don't know why but "(ethically)" made me laugh out loud and I had to click

[@SteamClockWork]

Not even halfway through but wow okay, learning a lot here. I thought the movie princess was based off a story not a historical tragedy

[@ztyran]

1:43 Neither was Pocahontas if you think about it.

[@BugsyFoga]

"The 1900s were sad" - KP

[@fallingpetunias9046]

Just a couple World Wars, numerous government restructures, complete changes in industry......some genocides, the full realization of propaganda.....a distinct rise in serial killers, follies in mental health practices, and introduction of mutual assured destruction. Not much

[@shelbyeileen7644]

Hi!! Anastasia Musical fan here. To answer your question as to whether or not the play discusses the actual fate of the real-life Anastasia, it doesn't directly but the ending song alludes to the fact that the belief in Anastasia being alive being just a beautiful dream. The dowager empress even directly says as such, and Gleb state's that 'the new order has no need for fairytales. The case is closed.' The playwriters were definitely aware of the 2007 discovery of the final two sets of remains but saying that she died in real life at the end of the musical would not only make the musical seem pointless but be a massive bummer for audiences. So instead, they framed the story as a fairytale and a dream as opposed to a 1:1 retelling of history despite the film being more historically accurate. I hope this helps!

[@magitek09]

As a rule, disney is never EVER loyal to the source material, be it historical, folkloric or (relatively) modern fiction. They always put something of their own, for good and for bad The problem is obvious that there's a big difference between changing a story and changing history, especially when it's a big production that gets people's attention As someone who loves history, I do love this movies and I think they should exist, but like you said, to lay clearly down that they're a story and not history ... also, I think your sarcasm was extra sharp today .w.

[@KapnKrowe]

Felt like I entered an AU (Alternate Universe) when Round Trip suddenly, jarringly entered into the video with Pocahontas lore. Now, I'm not complaining, but definitely did not expect Funny Stick Ponyman

[@psycologo121]

This is true. When I was in 4th grade my music class was made to sing Once Upon a December. Ok its a good song. But then we were told the story behind the death of The Royal Family. Ok we were taught history. Here is the wier part. From what I remember the teacher never made it clear that his was an event from 80+ years ago. So I remember being horrify thinking this was something that happen lthat year... in America. Later the teacher clarify, but for a while I was going around thinking otherwise.

[@mathieuleader8601]

fun fact Matoaka's descendant became the second first lady for president Woodrow Wilson. Edith Wilson she managed the executive whilst Woodrow was bedridden for a year from a stroke

[@fathighshcooler]

Reality is often disappointing

[@maggiesheartlove2734]

“History sucks sometimes” Preach to the choir, sister! This is exactly why I refuse to write any fiction that takes place in a real location or historical event. And no, not even an AU would make me feel comfortable. I respect the truth of history far too much to even play around with a “what if” because what may not mean much to me personally might mean a lot to somebody else.

[@Megalo64]

The research and editing that must have went into this video alone must have been a lot. Thank you for making this video I enjoyed it alot.

[@IvanHas2muchTime]

Later that day Kim got arrested for questioning Bardock the magnificent quality

[@owenwildish331]

From what I've learned but I'm unsure on this, a lot of fairy tales may have in theory been based on myths & legends possibly based on real people or a mish-mash of different people & supposed events, although retold and watered-down as folklore while the historical true story fades away, evolving into fantastical fairy tale settings over time, the story of Anastasia (though not the true story) might be considered a relatively recent example of this. I not sure if Anastasia & her film should be added to the Disney Princesses canon but I wouldn't mind (note, sadly and weirdly there's a few Disney Princesses that aren't considered Disney Princesses and some were but lost their Disney Princess status.) Regardless, someone who should be added to Disney's Fairies line-up is Crysta from FernGully: The Last Rain Forest, (especially since FernGully is in either Australia or New Zealand and unless I'm mistaken, the historical connection Peter Pan's 'Never-Never Land' has with Australia), I'd love to see a crossover movie where Tinker Bell & Crysta meet & team-up, imagine if both at the beginning, separately & unknowingly have to go off on an adventure save their home from a common threat and on their journeys they eventually cross paths and discover they have to work together since the only way to save everyone is to use the magic the other possesses, exploring the differences and similarities the two types of fairies and each other has...

[@brosephnoonan223]

"Rasputin wasnt a scary wizard monk" I mean... he WAS a conman with a really shaggy beard, alongside all that alternative medicine stuff. If Gweneth Paltroe can do the SAME thing ya boi Raz was doin', and we can all agree shes a scary witch, I think it's fair to SPIRITUALLY maintain the image Razputin has garnered.

[@WestRail642fan]

17:06, slight correction here, she died in Gravesend, not London

[@kikicallahan3662]

Anastasia’ll be a Disney Princess soon enough, I have confidence that it will happen.

[@OhSkyeLanta]

While the Pocahontas section could be it’s own video, I do kinda like how you snuck that section in there for people not expecting it, and I learned so much from the whole video! :)

[@BugsyFoga]

Totally.

[@williamcrowe2576]

When recording a country's history, there's always going to be someone who feels the need to... um, embellish?

[@onealone-jt8oi]

If Anastasia wants to be a fictitious Princess, fine, but given the way Disney is ruining everything it touches these days, maybe she'd be safer if she wasn't a Disney Princess.

[@patax144]

Oh really? Tell me something they have actually ruined and don't say Star Wars because that is a mixed bag and was even before it got bought by Disney

[@onealone-jt8oi]

@@patax144 As I said, "everything". Look it up in the dictionary if you don't understand it.

[@pvtread5207]

Sooooo..can we now go to Disneyland/world and confront "pocahontas" by calling her Rebecca and asking about her real life?

[@pvtread5207]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot hahahahaha, I'd love to see the attempted backpedaling on that one. "I..uhm, that's a cute outfit you have there, a...are you enjoying Disneyland?" "Why did you die at the age of 22?" Hahahahaha

[@fallingpetunias9046]

@@pvtread5207 Employee who can't break character or they lose their livelihood: "You must be thinking of the other Pocahontas. It is a surprisingly common name."

[@pvtread5207]

@@fallingpetunias9046 wow, they really have you say that! Disney must really be ashamed of the fact that they took such a tragic story and did what they did with it to not even acknowledge history There was only one and her name was changed to rebecca. I'm sorry you work for Disney though.

[@rumbleroller2154]

(18:47) Did...did someone just call us out on our Discord Ship Fetish? How dare he.

[@TorridPrime217]

Russel was a cool dude, he was close friends with George Carlin and played Billy in 'Magic Railroad'

[@MickeyBaby42]

Haha, Fluttercord is cannon now. Also, what's up with her mic?

[@MrNoobomnenie]

5:33 You could have just said "I know nothing about neither Lenin nor Communism, because I am an uneducated American liberal"

[@koaga]

Fucking lol that coat drop bit was fantastic

[@dannyg.4421]

Wait i watched all of once apon a time I thought. Why don't I remember Anastasia. Well to be fair I probably had to save storage in my brain for important stuff like uh psych, you remember psych? That was a good show.

[@rainstarflowerdroplets9624]

I may not be perfect but I do know that this movies Is beautiful 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

actually they try to poison rasputin but failed so than they kill him by shooting him and threw his body in to the river that's it

[@shadowpuppet8192]

An add in, it's been reported that after they fished him out of the river they tried burning his body, only for the body to sit up in the flames.

[@_mad_cat_]

1:39 *Laughs in Pocahontas*

[@kimberlybogert7031]

Well this was interesting Also omg the ending part of the vid.😂

[@kimberlybogert7031]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot Sure thing dude take care✨🌺

[@mathieuleader8601]

fun how you mentioned that you want the Simpsons to end Batok was voiced by Hank Azaria

[@sarahtelles1931]

No,Think before that they actually did refuge on a farm somewhere and then when back, but that was before things did get worse and the working class finally rose up, suck is, because of the whole keeping pure royalty blood, the son could have died from an untreated finger cut because he had hemophilia, oh, well, at least the death was quicker

[@MickeyBaby42]

Don't you be dissing my Titan A.E.

[@TheImaginator972]

People always took historical events about an real-life figure only to make an Animated films like Disney did Pocahontas, and Don Bluth did Anastasia, see what I mean of making tragic historical into Disney style. Also DreamWorks have DID The Prince Of Egypt, and Universal did Balto/Togo.

[@TheImaginator972]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot Yeah 😅 but sometimes people always take historical events and create them for an film entertainment. Like in Prince Of Egypt they present text message about "Historical License" in the beginning, if only Disney and Don Bluth could put that message in Pocahontas or Anastasia film.

[@CreativaArtly]

I enjoyed the play and the movie for Anastasia. Both were fascinating and enjoyable. I know it’s not true but it’s escapism. Still enjoyable music though. So so good.

[@FlutterRoze]

This is awesome!!! I loooove this film so much!!!!! It always makes me flipping cry!!! Great review guys!!! If only they gave this film more credit!!!! It’s brilliant! And gorgeous!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Also!! Great oc Anastasia vector visuals!!! I learned something new about it this film! And Pocahontas is also one of my favs!!!! Who knew two great films came from very dark background!!! Yikes!!!!

[@NeonArsonist]

Came here from rectangular walk

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

Wow KP you looking like Anastasia kinda makes you like an evil princess especially when your OC make negative faces.

[@therenamonstan]

I always wondered if Esmeralda and Anastasia would make a good pair.

[@AwkwardSegway95]

Round Trip!

[@ToeIn2194]

So Russian person here. Basically as far I can tell Russians who I spoke to in my child-like Cyrillic find "Anastasia" to be movie fluff and are aware of the myths so it was like "Oh Americans know the myth too". With Native Americans and Disney, Disney just did whatever it wanted, without using an established myth or anything really. I liked how you pointed out different perspectives of Native cultures on the movie as it's assumed all reactions were extremely negative.

[@ToeIn2194]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot I don't really care if she's made into a Disney Princess personally, but I wonder if they will cheapen her character and do something dumb with the marketing if she is made a Disney Princess.

[@BeaglzRok1]

>"sometimes" at Dark in the Night We're already off on the spicy takes I see, respect. And a history lesson, nice! I've always accidentally considered Anastasia to be a Disney Princess(no ™) until I was informed that not every animated movie was made by Disney. XD So I'm kind of glad I can be retroactively justified. But at the same time, the sheer corporatizing a historical figure, even a fictionalized interpretation of one, doesn't wholly sit right with me after all this time.

[@Leaf-N-Co.]

Always enjoy your videos.

[@Leaf-N-Co.]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot you've gotten further then I have and I've gotta do my part in helping out.

[@MiMayonGo]

Thats OUR princess, my comrade

[@mathieuleader8601]

Really makes you think how the US would be different if Charles Curtis became president

[@Stellra52]

Really they should have no problem throwing Anastasia in with the rest of them, I mean with Cinderella politely leaving out the stepsisters cutting up their feet so to shoe would fit, and the Little Mermaid having an actual happy ending, and Pocahontas's problematic... well... * gestures at everything *. I mean really just about everything Disney has touched has been a nightmare that they just candy-coated.

[@tk-756brony6]

What song is Round Trip’s background music? I’ve been looking for it ever since 2015..

[@tk-756brony6]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot Roger. Will send forces that way. Glad you’re still around KP. I just remembered how fuckin hilarious you and your editors were! It’s been years... Looking forward to watching your work for years to come!

[@thaddeusr.3967]

History consists of morally grey humans and is incredibly messed up. Quite honestly movies like Pocahontas and Anastasia are quite fine. They might not be the strongest movies but they are not that bad. Now can we get a Disney movie with a disabled character (*Finding Dory*) that doesn't try to make jokes about it while trying to take it seriously.

[@MrTheScholar]

Easy answer. Yes!

[@MrAnthonydemesa]

5:22 where’s this clip from?

[@McBean1331]

What is weird this video makes think about *American Horror Story Asylum* no joke.

[@Newwaytoofeelthepain]

They won’t even make eilonwy an official princess

[@berniedavis6676]

i'm speachless. history is so fucked up.

[@TequilaToothpick]

"Communism's bad guys". In other news Capitalism is working wonders in the US today! *Switches on TV* Oh....

[@varangianguard4726]

Yes that's why the soviet union failed and not the us

[@TequilaToothpick]

@@varangianguard4726 The US obviously has failed given the state of it.

[@kbraven7007]

I don't see how they would consider Anastasia in anything unless they make a live action remake or something

[@dovelyy]

"she has to be sexy" ??????????????

[@RandomYTUser0]

I absolutely love enjoying these amazing and enjoyable channel of yours Kim! I love you very much! You are absolutely funny and beautiful!❤❤❤❤

[@manuelgarcia1811]

Well.....hmmm......I got nothing. I like the movies, great soundtracks and all that. Sadly.....History sucks sometimes....and these stories come from dark/sad moments in History. All I got to say ....... The Anastasia ice show might have been to much.....

[@justinsibu]

Nice

[@tellcerseiitwasme4116]

As Russian pls yes just some representation. Anything any representation. Also I’m sorry you guys but half of this video is wrong. Three of the daughters did survive Anastasia included, they were moved to France province, they lost their title, recently her grand granddaughter was found and the DNA test did prove she is who she claims to be she doesn’t have any title or anything but three of the girls that survive she even has a diary to prove it, and when they compared to him writing from the diary in the museum is it match up even the signature

[@ridewild1956]

so not only does this movie get rasputin wrong but so did the third case closed movie the last wizard of the century, was rasputin just a big scapegoat for all of russia's problems in pop culture in the 90's

[@cerealjam]

I've never seen it should I watch it?

[@shadowpuppet8192]

Dude. Yaes.

[@jish55]

Nope, and for one main reason, Anastasia was not made under the Disney company. This means that she wouldn't qualify as an official Disney Princess.

[@kikicallahan3662]

Just because Disney didn’t originally make Anastasia, doesn’t mean she can’t qualify as a Disney Princess. It’s discriminatory. Disney needs to give Anastasia merchandise for her 25th anniversary.

[@Spyro757]

Childhood lol

[@jillevers1432]

I wouldn’t want Anastasia to be a Disney Princess. I grew up with this film separate from Disney and at the time wasn’t created. Disney may own it but they didn’t make it

[@isabellaearnhardt6380]

💗

[@newsupermariobrosely7940]

Ok

[@michaelnally2841]

As a white American I do think it was a bit culturally insensitive on Disney’s part to adapt a true tragic story into this Disney fairytale movie. But I do think though Pocahontas was an important film when it came to producing films based on other cultures. Such as Moana had experts from the Pacific Islands involve in the writing, the songs, and the only white cast member was Alan Tudick and he played as the chicken(a role pretty much anyone could play). If Pocahontas did make Disney improve in that regard I do think that is a good thing. However I do still wish they did better with the production of Pocahontas and made something that I think should’ve been more respectful to Native Americans and not disneyfy a tragic real life story. Now if they changed the characters names, and maybe have the setting be a completely made up city and not Jamestown, than maybe that could’ve been better but given I’m not Native American I don’t know for a fact if that would’ve fixed everything with the film, now if any of you guys are Native American please feel free to let me know what you think I would love to hear from your perspective.

[@michaelnally2841]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot I agree

[@thomasrdiehl]

Eh, Anastasia. Good video,but my post-Fox-merger Disney princess will always be Ellen Ripley.

[@jorgecameras1]

anime comic "¿hellboy 1? Should Anastasia. grigori reasputin," trump. 2021.

[@catpin]

Anastasia should not be a Disney Princess

[@geronimocharles1584]

Kim love 💕 love 💕 love 💕 love 💕 love 💕 love 💕

[@jeremy1860]

Seems a simple matter to me. She's a princess, and her film is now a Disney property. Sure, her being a historical figure does muddle the waters, but unless Russia itself issues a complaint about it I see no reason why she shouldn't be included 🤔

[@jeremy1860]

@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot To put it mildly 😅

[@lastmonarchistproduction_253]

No, she’s a don bluth princess

[@dovelyy]

no

[@g0blinkingg8]

are you really quitting youtube

[@maxschreck9988]

😂😂😂 BREEDING PAIR 😂😂😂 KP NOOOOO!

[@ILoveKimPossibleAlot]

I try

[@Portableholefromthefuture]

Ur OC as a Disney princess just doesn’t look right no offense

[@RodBeauvex]

For the love of Meghan Trainor, please buy a decent microphone.

[@daddyyahweh9328]

Hey I just want to say it is DEEPLY offensive to use an old regime's flag when talking about Russia and NOT the USSR. For context, this is the same level of offensiveness of using a Nazi flag when talking something about Germany. Just because it ended fairly recently, and had a very long active history, does not mean it's okay to do this. Just an FYI Oh also Anastasia is a tragic insensitivity, but at the same time we Russians do enjoy it for the fairy tale it is. We would love a disclaimer at the beginning though, that would be a step in the right direction. But hey, in the end you're still a good KZbin and I enjoy your content. Please have a great rest of your day.

[@daddyyahweh9328]

Also it looks like I forgot to subscribe to you, sorry, fixed. 😊