Should I buy a Weihrauch HW97k?

My personal opinion on the Weihrauch HW97k air rifle. This is purely an opinion, if you disagree you are right too!
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[@SHGRetro]

I love my HW77K best springer out there and have a 3-9 Hawke scope with Pistol grip stock and I installed one of your Maxi kits. Shoots .22 at just over 11ft/lbs at 25 yards 10 shots make a hole smaller than a 5p

[@allgood6535]

Agree have a laminate hw77 .22 open sight and super accurate no tunning

[@jeremymanning2132]

Awesome rifles. I highly recommend them. Yes the weight can be an issue for some but the performance is great. I own a ProSport as well which is also great and less front end heavy but accuracy wise there's no significant difference. However the ProSport cost me almost £600 more and can be more fiddly to load especially in .177. Great video. 👍👍

[@mrmactknife]

I have both 97k and a 77. The 77 is the better of the two, especially if you can get one with a 25mm piston. The "moderator type thing", does nothing, completely pointless.

[@avpinstarter]

Best rifle i ever had in 177 loved H&N field target trophy ammo 3x9x40 scope

[@todorgerzilov9180]

Super video, thank you!

[@rapalaron6348]

I love the Airmax 2-7X32. Have mounted this scope on several of my HW's. The perfect scope for the HW30 👍 In my opinion has the Vintage series a to thick crosshair for precision target shooting and do not have the half dots. On my HW97 and 77 i have the Airmax 30SF 4-16X44 compact to get good acces to the loading port. My choice for hunting is the HW35 because the barrel latch makes the cocking cycle very quiet The TX200 is a no go for me because of the same reason. Great vid. Cheers!

[@kims2r]

Agreed, the small magnification also suits the Pard scope mounted nightvision very well as it has its own magnification already, you get a very narrow field of view with high mag scopes

[@danchaloner1357]

Nice one. Big up Andy BlackMax. Sorted my Rekord out a treat.

[@vak1a]

Thanks Nick enjoyed the video I have a 97 with a tbt kit fitted and it’s awesome 🤩

[@stevepowell3475]

Excellent video...keep up this series.

[@poodown82]

Thats a stuning lookin rifle dude

[@halmason9252]

Hi Nick, another TBT excellent video. The HW 77 and 97 you helped me with are doing well. I think what I like the most about them is once you get the TBT Maxi-Pro kit installed they are easier to shoot well. As the way the rifles come to the USA they plenty powerful and do put out close to 15 ft lbs. What I found is at that power level the hand shock was difficult to allow a good follow through. When I installed the Maxi-Pro kits they settled down and the shot cycle was much less harsh. Now the gentle thud of the shot allows a good follow through. Might not seem like much but with all the action of the spring and piston going on before the pellet leaves the barrel the less shock the shooter has to deal with the easier it is to shoot the rifle accurately. Please keep posting this type of video. The in-depth explanations are very valuable. Hal

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

Thanks@@halmason9252 . We chat regularly by email, and as you know I am always looking for new ways to learn about a guns shooting characteristics. In my opinion the most accurate gun you own is the one you use the most., the gun you use the most will be the one you enjoy shooting the most. That is how TbT was born😁

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

I have had a TX200 for 18 months. Was very disappointed with it "out of the box" although I put it down to not shooting springers for 30-odd years. The anti-beartrap is indeed a pain in the arse but a TBT maxi kit halved my group size. 👍

[@johnowls]

I got a brand new HW99s and gave it straight to my gunsmith, he shortened the barrel and threaded a silencer then cleaned and tuned. It is hands down my favourite springer, I combined it with a red dot for roaming around the farm. It's so smooth and really quiet for a springer and fires with a pneumatic thump type noise rather than a bangy twang and it is really lightweight. I also own a AA TX200 and just sold my .177 HW97k as I can't see me ever using in instead of the 99s and TX.

[@longyx321]

Me too 99s barrel chopped and tinbum kit, debure and lube. Nice weight for a Carry gun..

[@cardiffpicker1]

Stroke length is the reason i only have a mk1 and mk2 tx200, mk1 is still my favourite though. As much as you get used vto the anti bear trap very quickly ,its still better without one.

[@stuartgray3743]

Great video,keep them coming 👍🏼👍🏼

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[@stephendonkin5497]

Just found your channel subscribed straight away liked your information

[@pauldoyle9709]

Hi Nick, still loving my 77, particularly now I’ve put a walnut CS thumb hole stock on it. I agree they are heavy, only took mine out on a walk around hunt once and it was a long day lugging it about, a sling would be the answer however. I shan’t go into the details of the day my TbT was fitted 😂 but will say… I’m very pleased with it.

[@FeathersMcGraw1]

My blue laminate 97 is Nick Simmons tuned. Superb accuracy and handling.

[@yalieangami6233]

Wish I could too😘💕👍👍

[@winstonchurchill6506]

My monies on the germans

[@stephengamble9388]

I have had the Maxi Short Stroke kits in my 97KT and TX200 Mk111 for over a year. They run around 11.2 ft/lb and 11.4 ft/lb respectively. When fitted with my Element Helix, they are both capable of hitting Golf balls at 65 yards. At present it sits on the 97. In very little wind I repeatedly hit a 15mm spinner at 65 yards. I originally installed the TBT kit into the 97, to try and eliminate hold sensitivity, and generally improve the feeling of the recoil. Out of the box I was directly comparing it to the TX. For me the 97 just felt a bit too workman like, twangy, not quite agricultural, a bit "That will do kind of feeling." The 97 now makes a very nice thunk, is super consistent and a delight to shoot with 8.44 grain FTT pellets. It was so nice to shoot that I installed a Maxi kit into the TX. This now prefers JSB Exact Heavies 10.34 grain. At present I am playing with a Sytong HT60 on the TX. Different. The 97 has the Helix on, paired with a Chinese Mini8 range finder.

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

Thankyou for such a detailed appraisal. I only say it how I find it, many agree👍

[@charlesthorogood6918]

Enjoyed your site a lot. I've got a HW97 & am interested in your suggestions to strip it down, remove the original grease & oil etc & replace it. Could you put up on your site, your recommendations for the grease & oil replacements please. Thanking you again for a very informative site.

[@dullbrass]

Go with the grease Nick sells on his site.

[@charlesthorogood6918]

@@dullbrass Thanks, will do.

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

I will be making a video on that very soon

[@brunoperessi]

Hi Nick, nice video as always! My 97 with your TBT kit has become a laser...at 25 yards it's 5 shots one hole, I'm not having fun anymore in fact I pushed the target to 50 yards😅

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

Sounds great!

[@richardwitherstone7396]

Fitted your TBT kit to my 97 today, tranformed it! I knew it would as I've got one of your TBT 's on my 41 year old 77, tranformed that! I bought the 97 second hand but I know it's never been apart before because I found exactly what you said, horrible manufacturer's grease 🙄

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

I will be doing a video on grease removal very soon👍

[@markmanning4753]

Hi Nick. That 97k long i picked up the other month is running in nicely, and you won't believe it, but i picked up an original mk1 a couple of weeks later after searching for years. That's life init. Lol So, that's a 77k, a 97k, and 2x long 97k.The troublee is i seem to have a spare kit, so i might have to "find" a 77 as well. Shocked you sell more tx kits mucka.

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

Any excuse for another gun Mark?😂

[@dullbrass]

No I shouldn't, I've got one :)

[@laurieharper1526]

I tried a 97K with a thumbhole stock at my club the other week. I was very impressed. It fitted my hand beautifully and felt a lot lighter than it was because the balance was so good. I'm trying to tell myself that I don't need one, but I'm weakening.

[@Rhys-z9c]

What are your views on the hw57?

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

I haven’t owned one?!😱 I think the early ones had issues, but my customers seem to like theirs

[@Deleba333]

@@tbtairrifletuning1520 Am I right in thinking that the HW57 doesn't have the Rekord adjustable 2 stage trigger? which would be a reason for me not to buy it, unless a replacement Rekord trigger could be fitted. I've got the HW97 in black synthetic/nickle and can't find a fault with it, OK it had a bit of a twang but I cured that with a piston spring sleeve. Greetings from Germany.

[@Rhys-z9c]

@Deleba333 the hw57 has the rekord trigger unit same as all the others

[@cedhome7945]

Don't know if there is a really cheap spring gun that actually groups well and has a reasonable build quality but it would be interesting to see a low cost build to see what magic you can perform on a budget. I appreciate the fine build quality of the gun you mentioned but for the total cost I would buy a pcp and have good accuracy and multiple shots for the same money out of the box 👍

[@sleeka91]

Hw99s. I had a hw50 silver shadow grey import from Germany and I shot my first 60 in hft competition with it

[@alland1241]

HW97k will cost you £465.00 all in brand new, Not many pcp's cheaper than this plus the cost of a bottle etc...

[@gecko278]

Have to kind of agree with you on your comment, the quality of Weihrauch rifles have been proven to death on KZbin, tell us something we didn't know ? would be better if you can show what you can achieve with say a sub £200 new rifle with your kits against the higher market guns. Yes we all know secondhand quality guns are available... why would you buy new in my view except for warranty ? dont want to upset the Weihrauch fan boys but there is life out there using other manufactures guns even 30+ years old

[@tbtairrifletuning1520]

@@gecko278I am starting with the rifles I have. After that I will start looking for other “projects”😎

[@kims2r]

The cheapest weihrauch is hw30s, its really enjoyable to shoot, if you’re planning to hunt I’d consider the hw50s, it needs some refining from factory though, they’re overpowered and overgreased which causes them to diesel. I opened mine up from new, degreased it, put a tbt-kit in, cut a few coils from the spring and it’s a gem now:)