Should I get an ATX v3.1 PSU, or will an ATX v3.0 be fine? Everything you need to know!

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@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

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@anthonyhawkins2722 18 күн бұрын

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@macheerouistrash 6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for asking, this may be a dumb question, but can you explain the effect of the lower/higher hold up time to everyday person (who might not really knowledgeable with PSU) in like a simple terms? Does like a lower hold up time makes your PSU easily turns off during instability or what? That said I think even just by the numbers, the cut for the hold up time itself seems a very significant reduction. Thanks in advance 🙏

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

No worries, hold-up time gives more room to a PSU to hold in ultra-short power cuts. Think it as a big battery, the bulk cap. It is mainly for protection to users having UPS connected to their PSUS, for extra safety.

@macheerouistrash 6 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters thank you so much for replying to me and the very helpful explanation 🙏

@JimCKD 6 ай бұрын

A useful vid that we actually needed. Thumbs up!

@Intrested_in_Intresting 6 ай бұрын

Great, thank you !!!

@Nelthalin 6 ай бұрын

Really stupid they lowered the hold uptime good to know. So its up to reviews again to see what PSU"s can go beyond that min spec.

@howlingbeats2544 Ай бұрын

Do I see a Wii Nunchuck as a clicker for the presentation?! That brings me back, very clever. 😂 Thanks for the informative video.

@yurijai9801 3 ай бұрын

Thank you just got a 3.0 over the 3.1

@Jeff.55649 6 ай бұрын

Think I will pick up the FSP Mega series once they are available!

@crylune 6 ай бұрын

I'm content with my Seasonic Prime TX-1300 ATX 3.0.

@George-um2vc 6 ай бұрын

I just got same PSU bt 1600W since it was similar price on Amazon and exactly the same size

@Nelthalin 6 ай бұрын

its too bad they dont have any 750-850 compacter Prime models with 3.0 yet. personally, i dont need a 1000+ PSU's. I dont want my GPU or CPU to be able to use that much. 400watt total system power is more than enough for me personally i tweak my system to be closer to 250-300 watt max with a high power profile that can go beyond when needed.

@thereptiofgod7888 5 ай бұрын

PX-1200 ATX 3.0 here, let's pray all together for our GPU not to burn (and our wallet not to suffer even more)

@vigilant_1934 5 ай бұрын

@@Nelthalin It's not that you need to use 1000 watts to be able to justify a 1000+ watt PSU. It's about the efficiency at higher wattages as well as the lower noise levels at moderate wattage. I currently only use up to 300-350 watts or so with a Ryzen 7 7700X and RX 6700XT and I was able to use my 550 watt Seasonic GX from my first build. My next upgrade may use 450-500 watts maxed out and while technically that could work it would be terribly inefficient and well beyond the ~55% load which tends to be where efficiency starts to drop below the rating of the PSU (gold, bronze, platinum ect.). Look at Cybenetics efficiency and noise graphs to see what I mean. The Seasonic GX-1000 is quieter at 250 watt load than the GX-850 is.

@lyianx 5 ай бұрын

Im looking at this exact one myself because i saw how efficeant it is as well as how low the vampire draw it. But not sure about space in my PSU compartment of my case.. (that is, not sure ill like how little room is lift for cabling.

@MrPapierzak1 6 ай бұрын

Hi. The cheapest ATX 3.0 compatible power supply I found was Zalman Gigamax GV. Have you tested them? What do you think about them? Is it worth pairing them with expensive graphics cards?

@ranting8677 2 ай бұрын

Never skimp on PSU

@guyfawkes0511 2 ай бұрын

Water is wet.

@mikeoleksa 3 ай бұрын

I reaally appreciate this video. I'm still questioning if I really need an ATX v3.0 power supply. If I have a solid power supply already, an Asus ROG Thor 1200w Platinum II, why cant I just get an adapter cable and be done with it? I'm currently running a RX 7900 XT and a R7 7700X, so I don't have a need for the ATX v3.0 spec right now, but the display on the PSU rarely goes over 500w and my average draw is under 200w (I have a power monitoring plug between my UPS and power cord for my PC). I get that each generation typically draws more power, but I already have over 600w to play with.

@davidgunther8428 6 ай бұрын

Wow, I never expected ATX 3.1 PSUs to be weaker than a 3.0. I'd get a 3.0 if available. Thanks!

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

they loose in hold-up time only but yeah this is major for me.

@George-um2vc 6 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters I just got the Seasonic Prime TX 1600W ATX 3.0, did I make a mistake buying this?

@davidgunther8428 6 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters I thought you mentioned the required surge capacity was reduced to 150%, as well.

@davidgunther8428 6 ай бұрын

@@George-um2vc according to the video, it should be good

@danr.1299 6 ай бұрын

I'm glad I was late to the 4090 as I have a strix with the 12v-2x6 and my PSU has 12v-2x6 header. I didn't find out this whole plug problem until after I bought the card and was sweating even firing my PC up for the day.

@sjsk313 5 ай бұрын

And i'm even more happy that i chose a Corsair PSU because they have 2x8 pin to 12vhpwr which is better 👌🏼

@brianmiller1574 4 ай бұрын

@@sjsk313 Is 2x 8pin to 12VHPWR better then Native 12v-2x6 ? I'm asking because I'm looking for best solution for my 4070Ti super

@veronikatemm3042 3 ай бұрын

@@sjsk313 Didn`t you watched the video? Not using native 12VHPWR / 12V-2X6 result in lower transient responce requirement, what is bad.

@sjsk313 3 ай бұрын

@@veronikatemm3042Ofc i did? The way Corsair implemented their cable is way safer 😊

@emiliobustamante-u5k 2 күн бұрын

The cables are different. Sorry but it is shorter for a reason

@VGShrine 6 ай бұрын

Still rocking my Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 2.5 with a RTX4090. Hopefully it will be compatible with RTX 50 series or newer.

@vedomedo 5 ай бұрын

Do you have any experience/knowledge of the Phanteks AMP GH series? They suddenly popped up here in Norway, but it seems they have mostly been sold in China / eastern countries until fairly recently as far as I can tell. In any case, the 1000/1200w are 80 plus platinum rated and I also saw the 1000w had pretty good results on the Clearesult test. Do you think you will get this model in for testing yourself? Would be interesting to see!

@HardwareBusters 5 ай бұрын

I don't have any relations with Phanteks. They do not send me any samples, probably they don't want me reviewing them.

@Alekseyboro 6 ай бұрын

What do you think, is it worth buying titanium ATX 3.0 now or should I wait for 3.1? for example, fsp hydro ti pro or mega 3.1?

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

FSP Hydro Ti Pro

@Mustafa-h1t1h 8 күн бұрын

@@HardwareBustersseasonic vertex px or hydro ti? They are same price where I live

@stalker777777777 9 күн бұрын

So in the end it is best to buy ATX3.0 and a new cable ?:)

@shad0wl0rd43 2 ай бұрын

Let me ask. Is the 12VHPWR cable compatible with an PSU ATX 3.1?

@zahee241 5 ай бұрын

Would you rate seasonic Vertex GX ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5 later, dear Sir?

@HardwareBusters 5 ай бұрын

I have it in this best PSUs article. It is pretty good.

@zahee241 5 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters thank you for your response dear sir

@berkertaskiran 6 ай бұрын

I just got an Asus Loki SFX-L 1200W and the website says ATX 3.1 compatible. Do I have 12V-2x6 or not?

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

yes, you should have 12V-2x6. If I remember correctly this PSU uses a native connector on its modular board.

@xeneize285 4 ай бұрын

Hello! thank you very much for that clear information, I´m wondering to purchase Thermaltake GF3 1000w PCIE 3.0 with 12VHPWR cpnnector: my configuration is the following: 13700K + ROG RYUO III 240MM + Z790 TUF WIFI PLUS + 64GB DDR5 6400 CORSAIR PRO RGB + 2 SSD M2. + 1 SATA SSD + NVIDIA 3070 (possible replacement for 4080 or 5070? please let me know what do you think. My case is a Mastercaste PRO 5 Coolermaster. I´m replacing a very old XFX CORE 850w psu from 2011!! can you believe that?? still running! Kind Regards, from Argentina!

@HardwareBusters 4 ай бұрын

Hi there! This TT GF3 unit is fine for your system. You might find stock with the new 12V-2x6 connector if it is from a later production batch.

@xeneize285 4 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters But the 3.0 ATX version Is better regarding peak response Time? Maybe Is Difficult to Find that model in Argentina yet, as I've searching for some Corsair or Seasonic models of 1000W too

@mokamako2842 Ай бұрын

Should i pick Corsair sf750 2024 which already support atx 3.1 or sf750 old version but more cheaper ?

@HardwareBusters Ай бұрын

The new one

@nepo10ball 9 күн бұрын

What about 1st player ngdp 1000w gold atx 3.1 pcie 5.1 , warranty 10 years? I already bought that, but i dont know it will be good or bad? Cz i dont find any reviewer review that one, do you recommend it? Or should i return & change?

@HardwareBusters 9 күн бұрын

It is pretty good, no need to change it.

@superstaples 6 ай бұрын

I just ordered a seasonic vertex gx-850 3.0 on sale for my new 4070 ti super 7800x3d build. I read reviews about someone’s pc shorting out with it and a few about major coil whine. Did I make a mistake? Also would I be able to upgrade to 4090 later with this set up or is the cable only going to produce up to 450w since it’s not 1000w or 1200w?

@thereptiofgod7888 5 ай бұрын

Maybe this will help kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpDapaJ5d8abnq8 People tend to recommend 1000W PSU for a 4090 on reddit but also tend to say its overpowered and 850W is enough, for my 14700K+4090 build I've gone for a Vertex PX-1200 because it was ATX 3.0, and because PSU arent very pricey compared to the rest of the build, for my 12600K+4070 build I've got a Focus PX-850 and I think its a bit overkill but again the price wasnt really a big difference and lower than 850 there wasnt a lot of choice either

@korgied Ай бұрын

@@thereptiofgod7888 going with a bigger and bigger power supply only reduces efficiency when you aren't gaming on it, because a lot of people only game sometimes and very low load is where power supplies are particularly inefficient.

@thereptiofgod7888 Ай бұрын

@korgied I don't know how much of a difference it makes on the bill, but yeah maybe 1200 watt is a bit overkill for my use, I think 1000 is the sweet spot for big build

@user-eu5ol7mx8y 2 ай бұрын

I'm confused. In another video you said that ATX 3.1 PSU is able to cut power / go into 0W mode if the sense pins on the 12V-2x6 connector (GPU end) aren't fully inserted, whereas ATX 3.0 PSU is not able to go into 0W state. Or did I misunderstand it?

@HardwareBusters 2 ай бұрын

When the GPU doesn't see any sense pins, then it doesn't draw any power from the PSU, because both power sense pins are seen as open.

@blenderart954 6 ай бұрын

"I'm planning to buy the Seasonic Vertex GX 1200. It's equipped with ATX 3.0 and has a 12V 2x6 connector. Since I'm not proficient in English and this new standard isn't widely discussed in my country, I'm feeling a bit confused. My GPU has the H++ mark, indicating compatibility with the new standard. However, if I understand you correctly, would it be advisable to proceed with my current plan rather than waiting for ATX 3.1?" seasonic vertex gx 1200 is good ? sorry for my dumb question.

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

No worries there are no dumb questions. The cable is the same, so you can proceed with the GX 1200 and no need to wait for an updated version. For all I know, the PSU you get might already have a 12V-2x6!

@blenderart954 6 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters I really appreciate your clarification.I'm going with GX1200. Thank you so much.

@clave2049 6 ай бұрын

is it safe to use a 12vhpwr cable extension on a atx 3.1 psu?

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

Nope

@clave2049 6 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters damn even when you connect it to the native 12vhpwr? i just dont like how the stock cable looks

@tao4124 6 ай бұрын

Please, active CC, it will make easier to me understand.

@HardwareBusters 6 ай бұрын

hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

@brianmiller1574 4 ай бұрын

I have Asus Dual 4070Ti super that was released in April of this year so I'm guessing has the 12v-2x6 connector? I was thinking on getting Focus GX 1000W that comes with Seasonic 2x8 to 12VHPWR cable. I was also considering on getting that PSU, but ATX 3.0, but I'm a bit confused, what would be better choice to be as close to the safety net or should I just wait for ATX 3.1 to be released? Thank you

@HardwareBusters 4 ай бұрын

Most PSUs now feature the native 12V-2x6 connector, and the ones that use 2x 8pin sockets are even safer.

@brianmiller1574 4 ай бұрын

@@HardwareBusters Very grateful for your prompted response. I have 3 options to chose from, could you be kind with your extensive knowledge and give me some clarity on which one I should go with. 1. Focus 1000W GX and use included 2x8 to 12VHPWR 2. FOCUS V3 GX-1000 with their native 12VHPWR ( Do you think that this model might have the 12V-2x6 connector, Its been released in June of 2023) 2. Prime TX 1000W and included 2x8 to 12VHPWR. Reason I included the TX is for the Titanium rating and its the 2023 model that includes the 2x8 to 12VHPWR Reason I am leaning towards Focus is because is quite smaller which I like and the fan has very smooth and dead silent operation, opposed to TX when comes on, initially you can hear it, but runs quiet as well, but for some reason I like the Focus size. I hope you can give me advise I would like to purchase one soon. Thank you sir.

@cybermarc8740 4 ай бұрын

I need a new => 1000 watts PSU, I have already been through Cybernetics reports for a couple of PSU, but I need you guys to help choosing the right PSU for me In my mind - Seasonic Vertex PX-1000 1000W - ASUS ROG STRIX 1000W Gold Aura Edition (I like the aluminum case for better cooling) To double check - Corsair HX1000i 1000W --> Some people are complaining it does only deliver 450 watt instead of 600w Outdated to me and expensive - ASUS ROG-THOR-1000P2-GAMING 1000W

@HardwareBusters 4 ай бұрын

All are very good, from the first three. I would go with the most affordable one.

@zlibz4582 3 ай бұрын

is the deepcool PM750D atx 3.0 ?

@HardwareBusters 3 ай бұрын

hwbusters.com/psus/deepcool-pn750d-atx-v3-1-psu-review/

@thereptiofgod7888 5 ай бұрын

My PX-1200 Vertex seems to hold up my 4090 quite well for now, hope nothing goes wrong in the future, and as Gamer Nexus already mentionned, dont unplug your GPU every weeks to see if its burning or not, you dont want foreign object to go inside, 12vhpwr are quite weak to that since it deliver a lot of power while having very thin ping Even if it work Nvidia should double think about their power delivery method for their GPU, I would have even preferred four 8 pins connector rather than that, maybe a double 12vhpwr ? Well I'm not competent enough on this subject, but maybe there is a problem when people start complaining since before it wasnt a problem

@HardwareBusters 5 ай бұрын

true you should not unplug-plug it every now and then. You should only make sure that it is all the way in plugged at the first time you do it and then leave it alone.