Watch this BEFORE you consider upgrading your PC!

[@blai5e730]

My golden rule... _"Have I got the cash to upgrade?"_ If no, then no upgrade for me.

[@SpicyEvo]

This is why I got screwed over on the 7800x3d. I was like oh it’s 330 I’ll get it next week. Then it jumped to 470 then 569, and now 700. I’ll just get the 9800x3d long as it’s not 700 or I’m selling my am5 board and going Intel

[@uss-dh7909]

Even if you have the cash, do you want to upgrade in this sort of economy when milk and eggs cost this much? ......... Yeah you're still going to upgrade, just tell the wife and kids to survive off ramen for a few weeks.

[@GregM]

Yup and hence why I can not remember the last time I upgraded. I never upgrade CPUs. Perhaps storage or more memory is the only thing I have upgraded in the past. Once a system is so old that it does not function I usually build a new system altogether

[@jabronilifestyle]

@@SpicyEvo AMD prices only went up because Intel completely bombed 13th 14th and 15th generations back to back to back. Intel is soon going to realize they can't overcharge for an inferior product unlike Nvidia who CAN overcharge because their product is superior.

[@olebole370]

That. And do not look at prices after purchase.

[@VadikRamm]

Time Stamps for all GPU fan spins: 0:15 1:03 1:35 2:02 2:40 2:57 3:11 3:40 4:10 4:42 5:20 5:48 6:17 6:42 7:29 8:12 8:54 9:04 9:37 10:29 10:58 11:44 12:42 13:34 14:22 15:10 15:22 15:48 16:23 16:37 16:50 17:05 17:39 18:14 18:48 19:06 19:20 19:32 19:54 20:20 20:57

[@CYPH3R-G4M1NG]

& I'm here watching it the whole time & wondering has Jay set that PC to do that or is that GPU fried? 🤨🤣🤘🏼

[@localbrew]

Doing gods work

[@CYPH3R-G4M1NG]

@@localbrew 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣🤘🏼

[@Stop_Pre-Ordering_Video_Games]

Some heroes don't wear capes

[@Bleiser3]

@@CYPH3R-G4M1NG probably temps running around the limit for fans to start working. those fans won't go on if temps are low enough unless you set it yourself in settings to be whatever you want

[@djmidnightwolf]

I don't need an upgrade..... *_steps into Micro Center_*

[@quatchkopf3658]

Wish I had a Micro Center near me.

[@KingG13]

They built one 45 minutes from me a couple months ago. It's pretty much over for my wallet.

[@djmidnightwolf]

@KingG13 Especially when stuff like the ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi gets marked at $129 for some reason. Then they also had a Lian Li 011 Dynamic white open box for $64.

[@KingG13]

@@djmidnightwolf did you have to go in store to figure out that mark down?

[@djmidnightwolf]

@KingG13 the case yes, but saw the motherboard deal on the website and made a detour on way home

[@cjeffcoatjr]

1:55 This felt like a direct callout at me, lol. My 5950X and 6800XT are still going strong. I recently upgraded my primary "monitor" to a 42-inch LG C4 instead of upgrading the computer itself. Consider your setup friends 😃

[@andrewbarnhart4435]

How is that display? I’m considering the same.

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

i still cant get my head around whoever has specs like that and thinks they need to upgrade. who needs 4k 300 FPS? i spend way too much time in front of my PC, studying, free time, watching movies or videos with my GF, etc. and still i would have a thousand different ways to better use my money. there are always a few specific circumstances ppl have when it makes sense, but i'd argue most ppl who do such unnecessary upgrades lost the grasp on what money can do a bit.

[@cjeffcoatjr]

​@@andrewbarnhart4435 Great for me so far. As a more casual gamer, I suspect I will not upgrade from this for a very long time. It looks incredible for single-player games and content consumption. I'm not using any of the AI features. I intended to get a C3 for cheaper, but they sold out before I made my move. Oh well. The C4 gets brighter, though, so that's nice

[@cjeffcoatjr]

​@@privatjetconnaisseur I agree. I upgraded to my current computer 3 years ago from an FX 6300/Radeon 7870. 10 years of Bulldozer 😬. This computer is much faster than that one was. Let's see if it can also do 10 years...

[@cjeffcoatjr]

@@andrewbarnhart4435 Great for me so far. As a more casual gamer, I suspect I will not upgrade from this for a very long time. It looks incredible for single-player games and content consumption. I'm not using any of the AI features. I intended to get a C3 for cheaper, but they sold out before I made my move. Oh well. The C4 gets brighter, though, so that's nice

[@thomasrider5852]

“Dont tell the wife the actual cost, tell her what you wish it cost”

[@0wl999]

And, buy her something at the same value first, with her understanding you're both getting something you want.😅

[@Peragere]

Everything is $50...

[@thomasrider5852]

@ wife knows I have no cheap hobbies. She’d sniff out that lie instantly

[@jdmhbeats]

Nothing to do with anyone what you spend your money on

[@duncanbrown4184]

​@@jdmhbeats if you're in a relationship where you share income then it is fair to include your partner in your decisions. That does take respect from both parties though. If you have the readies to upgrade, and haven't spent profligately, it is a bit of a heel move for your partner to veto it. Even worse if you do the honourable thing but your partner spends on things for themselves without considering your opinions. Maturity required on both sides.

[@Psycho-Ben]

9:25 yes, please do an updated video physically comparing modern PCI-E lane Generations. seeing ACTUAL performance vs. theoretical would be awesome 👍

[@TheChartreuseLeprechaun]

Yes. PLEASE!!!

[@deilliw]

Yes please to this suggestion!

[@Burbund]

Especially for 4060s, because they have 8x pcie and pcie gen can be more of a difference than in different carda

[@Candisa]

Yes! Many people still running PCIe 3

[@quantum5661]

techpowerup already did this, the difference between 3.0 and 4.0 is 3%.

[@b4lderm]

13:45 the golden rule here is: check your motherboard manual, if it says adding an extra drive will steal bandwidth from your GPU then upgrade to a bigger drive and use the old one as external, otherwise add an extra drive.

[@joekenorer]

After 35 years of playing with computers I don't think I'm going to upgrade anymore, the economy has priced everything out and my wages haven't increased since 2020. On top of that the games aren't good anymore and I'm getting old and just don't have infinite patience to invest in them anymore. I'm thinking about unplugging completely and buying a motorcycle and spending the rest of my days outside.

[@BREEZYM6015]

What are your current system specs?

[@vanveenmatt]

technology is damaging us all. go back to the simple stuff. you'll appreciate everything that much more.

[@fredjones554]

Good for you bro

[@CESS3D2Y]

😂😂😂 touching grass would do good for your mental bro

[@adamtajhassam9188]

if i was in ur shoes save log term and enjoy the boost of the biggest upgrade if not everything .

[@Hybris51129]

I usually upgrade on a 10 year cycle for CPU/Motherboard/RAM but video cards I usually start thinking about at the 5-7 year mark. It pays major dividends to not cheap out on parts up front as it gives generally much longer useful service life than the cheaper parts.

[@MariuszWodarczyk]

These are some level-headed pieces of advice. Thanks, Jay.

[@Legendsingray]

I just upgraded from a pre-built that had some components fail (after only 4 years) and many had proprietary connections. Finally built myself one.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are your specs?

[@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis]

@@Legendsingray 4 yrs is actually good

[@AtteroDominatus]

​@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis parts failing after 4 years is good? Yeah, I don't think so.

[@blockboymillinbg6700]

@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDisit’s definitely not 😂😂😂

[@PCgamerChannel]

@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis MY first pc build from 5 years ago still running strong, I expect to get another 3-5 out of it.

[@NewRaven2]

My golden rule(s) as someone who wasted way too much cash in his life for pc upgrades? Only upgrade when you really need to, not when you just want to. Buy new stuff if you actually need the performance or the technical advancements/benefits/improvements right now. Don't upgrade because you like shiny new stuff, don't upgrade because "it could be useful at some point" - upgrade when you need it. Upgrade when something isn't performing the way you need it to. In pc hardware, nothing is particular "future-proof" and - all scalpers, pandemics and so on aside - prices usually go down, sometimes rather quick. You just waste money if you upgrade too early, even if you buy on sale. And rule 2: don't go all the way to the highest high-end or the lowest low-end. Both variants are usually not worth your money. With the former you often pay 30% more for 15% more performance, with the latter you probably have to replace that part much earlier than if you had spent 10% more.

[@lyntoncollins2758]

We call them sentences, once you have leveled up, you go for paragraphs.

[@triparadox.c]

The best future proof is to buy midrange. Most value for the money compared to two extreme ends like you said. Then set the upgrade cycle every 3 yrs vs 5 yrs with high end stuff

[@Bankai90]

@@triparadox.c the best is to buy for a framerate you enjoy on settings u enjoy for whatever type there is do you need a 4070 super for 1080p? no, do you need a 4070super for 1440p yes, 5090 will do great if you wanna play in 4k like before even the 4x series released I knew that I will buy one to enjoy 1440p at decent frames, so I got me the 4070super which I will sell for low in like 5 years and buy me a 6090 for proper 4k experience and then probably call it quits for 6-10years life is too short to spend too much time in games on shitty performance and with some planning all of it isn't that bad either

[@KidFrom106]

I recently upgraded my cpu from a 3700x to a 5900x and I instantly noticed my games being a lot smoother next upgrade for me is my gpu

[@pmstuff8420]

Interesting! I have the same CPU and have been thinking of getting a 5950x3d since it's the best possible am4 CPU at the moment. Any idea of the fps increase you got? And what gpu do you have now?

[@zenshakujo8070]

​@@pmstuff8420not much, those are productivity cpus

[@prezlamen7906]

Same. When i upgraded to 3800x i saw like 1-3fps increase, but for some reason gaming felt like fps is doubled. People told me thats IPC improvement (i think its called IPC).

[@user-dz3ph7dl4m]

@@pmstuff8420 the best gaming cpu on am4 is the 5800x3d however that is hard to find, the 5700x3d is nearly as fast and more available and much cheaper than the 5800x3d anyway

[@TechPanther7]

I have a 3700x and ironically my 2070s is bottlenecking my cpu in cod lol

[@trivog]

I'm upgrading right now. Not because I felt the urgent need to, but because I kinda wanted to do it for a while and now a friend of mine has some budget for upgrading (he was in dire need of an upgrade for years now). So we upgrade his system with CPU, GPU und RAM from mine and I go AM5 with the money I get from those parts plus mobo and a small extra ofcourse. He's happy, I'm happy :D

[@leagreenall5972]

This has been a BRILLIANT video. I'm very experienced at building my own system for decades... but... I don't know all the tech savvy terms and meanings. So when you explained the issues with upgrading Drives and taking lane spots - BANG - it was like a new paradigm was discovered. Same with all the power supply and requirements, and especially the Motherboard.... I just build a system with 'guesstimating' based on what didn't blow up in the past and was proven. I currently have a SFF build with ROG Strix X570-I gaming MB, Ryzen 9 5950X, WD SN850X 2TB Gen 4 NVMe, 64GB Corsair Veng RAM, Zotac RTX 4070 Twin Edge OC GPU, SX650G PSU, all water-cooled in a HYTE Revolt 3 ITX case... all attached to a Dell 32 4K G3223Q UHD Gaming Monitor. So with the AMD 5 series and X3D CPUs as well as the RTX 5 series on the horizon, was wondering if I needed to upgrade... I mainly play Skyrim in 4K, mod and stream... Your video made it clear I do NOT need to upgrade and I am VERY grateful to have watched it.... only thing I do NOT like in my setup is the Motherboard as I can't get sound and only 1x M.2 drive is recognised. Thanks very much :)

[@skytechiesnexusjinx1958]

Congratulations again for the new Studio JTC team..

[@JeremyBaker-f8z]

Definitely

[@jameseisterhold2000]

As someone upgrading soon good to see it’s time to upgrade everything

[@Not_Dead_Yet]

Ha! Same here. I built my rig in 2014 (with a GPU replacement in 2017 as it died) and I'm starting to hit the wall maxing out CPU and RAM. Trying to refresh my knowledge on hardware and what to look for in my next build, so this was a great watch.

[@MajorHickE]

Same. My 1080ti is beginning to fail after 10 years. Much as I'd love to just replace that one part, it doesn't change the 256gb SSD, CPU, or the fact that the power supply & cooling system will probably need to be upgraded at the same time.

[@meta318]

My golden rule for upgrading: if your components are landing in the minimum specs for new titles.

[@592Johno]

Factsss. I play alot of new games once it's something I like. My 3080ti is still fine🤣

[@ThePianist51]

The RX5700 landed on the minimum specs. This is just sad. And went unexpectedly very quick. Let’s see how long my new RX7990 XTX is going to last. I hope more than 5 years for „up-to-date“ gaming. 😅

[@ChrisZukowski88]

I personally upgrade every 5 or 6 years. No need to figure out whether I need an upgrade or not because I just build a whole new pc after skipping a few generations. The pc runs games OK, but I like having a pc that's no slouch. Plus picking parts and putting it all together is its own reward.

[@indrahaseo]

excellent words

[@darkstorminc]

My old GTX 960 still runs fine for many games, but my son has to deal with that. I upgraded and he got the older equipment.

[@everquestfan]

Recently upgraded from 16 to 32 RAM. Highly recommend, fight the throbber! Also premade comps have some junk no name SSD. Game changer.

[@DragonBane299]

Jay I get why you'd go for having a bigger drive for everything, but it does introduce the risk of losing all that data in one go as well. There are pros and cons for everything, but I personally will stick with my three drive solution. One windows and essential files. One for games and one backup/big files. That way I can at least limit any losses if a drive dies.

[@johnhudson7055]

I used to just wait until my computer just wasn’t running games at high enough detail and resolution then I’d upgrade whatever needed it. Now I keep building new systems because I enjoy doing it. My midrange machines, which are some of my favorite builds, are still able to satisfy all my gaming needs pretty easily. However I still like high end hardware so I have high end rigs as well. My buddy literally upgraded to a 4070 last summer from his 1080 to play Diablo IV. The funny thing is he’s still using a trio of 1080p/60Hz monitors which he’s had for at least a decade and likely won’t replace them til one of them dies.

[@mcul3474]

The last paragraph genuinely made me chuckle. He needs to upgrade those monitors ASAP.

[@xyzzy64]

i was on a trio of 1080p/60hz monitors as well until just a week ago. oldest of the 3 was from 2010. upgraded the center monitor to a dell g2724d and it's amazing. i still feel bad about not using the old monitor though...

[@johnhudson7055]

@@mcul3474 that’s what I keep telling him.

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

@@xyzzy64 was on a tight budget and got a nice deal on a refurbished 144Hz 1080p for under 150 bucks to put my 60hz 1080p as my 2nd monitor. upgraded this year from a 970 to a 4070 since i got that for less than 500, but how do i go to 1440p now? selling the refurbished one is awkward, 60 hz 1080p is perfect for 2nd monitor anyway, but i also dont want a third xD i think i just wait til one of them dies and maybe OLED has reasonable pricing. im not willing to pay triple just for going from IPS to OLED which might also have problems selling in a couple years.

[@gingersnapz5817]

I got my 3090 after I bought my third 1440p 240hz screen now I’m juiced

[@revanisalive]

i went from i5-6500 to r5-5600x. huge difference. love your videos, man.

[@PhoenixWwrong]

Ayy fellow new AM4 owner! I just went from i5 5820k to R7 5700x3d

[@indrahaseo]

Welcome to AMD, bro

[@SB379]

from 4790k to 7800x3d.... I think it's a few percent faster 👍

[@Lurch-Bot]

That's like saying you went from a Honda Fit to a Mustang GT.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

And you still have simple upgrade path to 5700x3d if you're interested in performance for gaming. 5800x3d would be even better but that's next to impossible to buy for sensible price, new or second hand.

[@monkkeye]

When i can't no longer play my fav game at constant 60+ at mid settings

[@Avarice愛染]

Same but I'd also also add on the native res of my monitor

[@timothygibney159]

Black myth wukong and Star Wars outlaw is hitting my supposed high end 3080ti and 7950x3d HARD at 1440p. It’s hard to stay at 60+ with ray tracing on. God help anyone reading this who has 4k

[@kin-3877]

​@@timothygibney159those are two terribly optimized games. It's not your tech dont worry

[@formulaic78]

​@@timothygibney159just turn off the ray tracing then. It's a luxury feature and you no longer have a luxury card. I'm on a 4080 and have been turning off ray tracing periodically in jedi survivor when it starts getting juddery. It's amazing technology but in the heat of the action the very definition of a luxury feature.

[@Premier024]

​@@timothygibney159 Outlaws rt is horrendous for performance I'm on an13700k 4090 and it brought my PC to its knees taking into the 30s in some areas

[@fozzee6999]

I'm running an i9 9900k, running at 5ghz, with an AMD 6950xt 16GB. 64GB of DDR4 at 3200. Runs like a dream. No bottle necking and I can run mutiple programmes while playing the latest titles.

[@GregB6193]

I am right there with you on the 9900k , 32G DDR3200 , 3090. On custom watercooling i am wondering if i should upgrade to arrow lake for the extra horsepower for the 5080/5090.

[@lilkngstr]

I have 2 x 9700ks. Recently upgraded from 1650s to a 3060 and a 6800 b/c of vram and local deals. Think I'll be good until they die.

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

@@GregB6193 why would u need such a GPU upgrade? what games is the 3090 struggling with, it should get any game done even at 4k or doesnt it? im on a 4070 (upgraded from 970) and im not worried the slightest even about GTA 6

[@GregB6193]

@@privatjetconnaisseur It does good at 4k but I think that the dlss and frame generation in the 40 series cards works so much better . My s/o has a 4080 super and that card is a monster .

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

​@@GregB6193 3090 also sells quite well used. and the 4080 super might also be the most expensive Nvidia card i would buy. its just so much more bang for your buck compared to 4090 and 5000 series (from what we know so far)

[@richwilson9517]

Thanks! just excellent. great topic.

[@jonathanhanson-casey1743]

Still rocking a 1st gen i7 and a 1080ti works well . Mabe time to upgrade but it’s hard to when old faithful still get done wat I need

[@veeli1106]

…surprised that you didn’t swap in an 6-core X5670ish Xeon during that time!

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

no need to upgrade. the security of the spare money will make most ppl more happy than FPS they dont need. was running with a 3600 and 970 until earlier this year and if it wasnt for baldurs gate i'd still be rocking that. i even played GTA 5 on an FX 6300 with a 750 back in 2018 and had no performance issues. also im still running the same pc with that 3600, just upgraded the GPU.

[@bravepotatoe7513]

@@privatjetconnaisseur yeah I'd rather keep my money I don't need fancier graphics but my i7 4790+1070 just isn't cutting it anymore i can't play the new releases with my friends anymore it's disheartening

[@privatjetconnaisseur]

@bravepotatoe7513 i mean that is the is most valid reason to upgrade. Just make sure not to spend money you dont have/ thats needed elsewhere. Also since CES is around and right before thanksgiving/christmas prices are the highest, waiting until february would save u a lot of money. But even just a new GPU might be enough, if u can get a good deal on the used market. Best of luck mate!

[@bravepotatoe7513]

@@privatjetconnaisseur thanks for the tips It's good to know. Anyway I was planning on waiting atleast after christmas to see what the finances looks like since there's always some spending around that time of the year

[@JamieStuff]

This past year, I DOWNGRADED to a 7940HS based tiny PC, and I love it. However, I do have a bit of a different use case. I'm a trucker, and I'm limited to 1080p/60 on my TV. The tiny PC is running Linux, and most of my gaming is through Steam. Most of the Steam games run just fine under Linux. (Think Steam Deck v1.5.) However, I do still have my gaming PC on board, which is an all-AMD AM4 SFF system. The big difference for me is with power draw. On the tiny PC, I can let the computer stay on all night, downloading via the slow truck stop WiFi without draining the truck battery. The AM4 system, however, can go only 5-6 hours doing a download before the low voltage alarm goes off, so I need to idle. (Not a problem during the summer when I need the A/C, but it is the rest of the year.) TL/DR: Only you can determine if what you have now is "good enough".

[@averyw.3939]

I'm always surprised how many fellow truckers I see in the gaming/pc enthusiast world. I just drive local so I don't need a mobile setup but some of the ones I've seen are pretty cool. Curious if you could add a deep cycle battery and some sort of BMS like the overlanders use? If you are owner op that is.

[@veeli1106]

You’re far enough south that you don’t need heating during the winter?

[@Hybris51129]

I built a similar PC on for my father's rig. He is a owner/operator and while he doesn't game he watches a lot of movies. So I built him a all solid state build with as many of the largest SSD's I could get my hands on at the time. This way when he is parked at home he can access everything by the home network to swap movie loads and otherwise remain independent of the truck stop Wifi or the signal issues he experienced while in mountainous areas.

[@pootispiker2866]

You should consider getting something like an ecoflow power station. Charge it while the engine's running and then have all the power you need otherwise.

[@Hybris51129]

@@pootispiker2866 The problem with that is space is at a absolute premium. So on top of having a PC case you now also have the power bank to stash, secure, and wire up. It's not something many rigs would be able to carry without sacrificing space for something else like a Microwave, food, water, or spare clothes.

[@hobbiestuff]

Watching this after the Gamer Nexus video and seeing the NZXT promo gives me the chills 💀

[@H8T98]

Fr I hope everyone cuts ties with them after that

[@BLKCAL]

I have few rules: 1. I stay about one generation behind things so that most of the bugs have time to be discovered. 2. I upgrade progressively. 3. Wait for the big sales seasons

[@TurboLoveTrain]

Sage advice... except I don't upgrade until I absolutely have to. When I do I absolutely never buy the newest generation.

[@benjamind547]

Decent advice, but when you fall behind sometimes you have to upgrade in one go rather than progressively - that's just an ideal.

[@studydude]

Been using the Same Lian Li Brushed Aluminum Case since 2012, Started with an Ivy Bridge, now have a 12th Gen i7, upgraded everything except the case.

[@dillkilltv3942]

I had an i5 6600k with a 2060. CPU was 100% constantly. Upgraded to an i7 7700 or something. After a few months I got a new motherboard and cpu. I7 12700kf a few months later I got a 2080 ti. 1440p/2k with 95+ fps, high everything

[@BREEZYM6015]

I have an i7 8700k. What GPU should I pair with it? I currently have a GTX 1060 6GB.

[@patrik2813]

1080ti would be a solid budget option

[@Juliencharb]

i cant listen to you , i'm looking at the 3gpu fan spinning from time to time LOL

[@TheOfficialblue]

I thought I was the only one, lol. It keeps distracting me. Weird how 2 spin then all 3 then the 2 stop and the last one stops.

[@andrewlelei8388]

DAMNIT NOW I CANT unsee it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NTATchannelNickTaylor]

I think it's one of the last EVGA 3090's that was made. . .

[@Juliencharb]

​@@NTATchannelNickTaylor it's beautiful

[@ywtv6]

Same bro!

[@Heisenberg_747]

My wallet decides my upgrade plan nothing else beats it.

[@benbaer3525]

20:33. I got my case back in 2016 that had a bunch of fixed drive cages in the front. When I got a 3080 a couple years ago it didn't fit because the SATA SSD cages were in the way. I still kept the case and "forcibly modded" out those cages to make it work.

[@HollywoodGaming-fy3vt]

Cases are surprisingly mod-able😂

[@TheRudolph92]

My golden rule would be what Jay is mentioning at the beginning of this video. Monitor your hardware! This is the number one indicator of what might need an upgrade to begin with. This is true for every aspect of any given piece of hardware, from the temperatures it's running to the amount of utilization it's getting. I also have a second golden rule that I always follow once an upgrade has been determined: Performance over esthetics at all times! Not saying that I don't give a s**t about if a system looks terrible and as unprofessional as it gets, because I do, but without a doubt I care the absolute most about what kind of performance is being delivered from it. I'd much rather have a boring looking case with exceptional airflow and space, than a pretty case that strangles every single fan in the system as soon as it starts to rotate! (Looking at you NZXT H5 non-flow.)

[@SpicyCaramelDurian]

my real question is, Why does the fans on that gpu turns on at different times

[@MrMarrok657]

temperature and fan curve.

[@TheForce_Productions]

There´s a guy behing the scenography connecting and disconnectig the psu.

[@tenepicthings]

probably some kind of bug with GPU fan control software

[@Grievous-]

The GPU features a zero RPM mode, which means the fans remain off until the temperature reaches a specific threshold. Once the GPU heats up, the fans activate to cool it down, and they turn off again when the temperature drops below that threshold. This helps reduce fan noise when the GPU isn't under heavy load.

[@MrMarrok657]

@@tenepicthings i hope you’re joking

[@esunisen3862]

Pro tip: Buy what you NEED, not what you WANT. Works with everything, not only computers.

[@darkstorminc]

Buy what you want and pray you have enough money leftover for the bills lol

[@frostyiv1509]

​@@darkstormincthe forbidden way 😂

[@dtrcs9518]

nobody needs to play games.

[@mbulgakov]

Best rule ever, especially for anxious people who can't process uncertainty 😅😅

[@Pulverrostmannen]

Cheeping out components will not only make you disappointed but you will also need to replace or upgrade them sooner. in the long run you earn money getting the high end stuff right away. my old gaming PC (FX8350 32GB)died 9 years old from motherboard warping, the smaller upgrade to a 6700K made from various stuff I had around I used for 1 year because it was old to begin and MS is stupid I had to upgrade again to Ryzen 5800X. my production PC is over 10 years now and the same as I built it with the 4790K 16GB. My rule is that I am better off happy for a longer time than cheap out for the sake of it. expensive as it comes you do get more joy in the end if you can afford it

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

(laughs nervously in intel 4590)

[@Progection]

Stares judgmentally in Intel i7 2600 (non-K).

[@vivekvs1992]

Hehe intel 4790k and a gtx 660 amp i will upgrade it later edition

[@Chainedactivation]

​@@vivekvs1992 i remember when 4790k was the King, damn

[@wacka2431]

that makes me feel a lot better about my 8700k.

[@Zerbyte]

@@vivekvs1992 That is what I have, the Intel Core i7-4790K has done me well but time for an update for me.

[@kacperjestfajny]

My golden rule is simple: upgrade when you REALLLY need upgrade. Last time i upgraded when i decided it's time to play Cyberpunk 2077 it was barely playable on my previus build and now

[@indianajim]

I’ve got a six-year old MSI Titan laptop with a GT1080 and it’s suited me very well thus far. Looking ahead at the games coming I think it’s just about time to move up to something that can trace the rays.

[@AlexanderWinship]

I just upgraded from a 3600 to a 5700x3D. Not noticing much of a difference now but should be good for a few years.

[@thereddog223]

Probably depends on your gpu as well

[@fuzzywinkle8310]

I felt like my pc was a bit snappier, but I also upgraded to 32gigs of ram vs 16

[@A5tr0_o]

I went from a 5600 to 5700x3d and noticed quite a bit of a difference. Much higher lows and a lot less stuttering, I’m sure it has a lot to do with the games being playing.

[@brandoncampisi6621]

What's your ram capacity, speed, timings, is your ram double your infinity clock? What else is in your system and what games are you playing. Maybe they just aren't cpu bound.

[@keel3r433]

I went from an i5 6600k to a 5600x, it's way faster :D

[@bryanwhite2685]

I'm still running a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Radeon RX 6950 XT. At this point, that's 2 year old hardware, but it suits my needs just fine, and since Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is good enough for me, I'm not planning to upgrade just yet. By the way, please review MFS2024 like you did with the 2 videos for the previous version. Just because newer hardware is available, that doesn't mean that my PC that was top of the line when I built it is suddenly "obsolete". Hardware Unboxed recently compared the 5800X3D to the new Ryzen 7 CPUs, and it is still very competitive. I feel it's the same with the GPU: The RDNA3 GPUs didn't offer enough performance improvement to make upgrading from RDNA2 worth it, and while I would love to go with an RTX 4090, I'm not willing to turn my PC into a fire hazard because of a poorly designed power connector that every so-called fix failed to actually solve the problem... (and based on rumors, RDNA4 isn't going to offer me much incentive to upgrade either...) So for now, I'm happy with what I have.

[@Jeff.78]

That's a solid build, and I'd run it til it can't do what you need. I'd guess 3 years or more.

[@bryanwhite2685]

@@Jeff.78 Thanks. I plan on holding off on upgrading the CPU for a while since it's gonna be an expensive upgrade to AM5 or whatever comes next when the time comes.

[@definitelyfunatparties]

Get a 4080 super then. Massive upgrade, especially for RT and less of a fire hazard. At this point you might want to wait for the 5080.. I wouldn’t. I think 5080s if the all the rumors are true are going to flop and drive up the price of the already dwindling supply of 4080 supers

[@SpicyEvo]

That’s good. My 5900x holding my gpu back and I felt am4 was long in the tooth and didn’t feel like buying another one when at the time the 7800x3d was 330 and I regret not buying the cpu first

[@Lurch-Bot]

you're gonna be able to run MSFS24 on that hardware. You'll be able to get a substantial GPU upgrade on that CPU. I won't buy anything with a 12VHPWR connector either.

[@brentbristol4549]

Surprised RAM wasn’t discussed

[@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis]

Cus u can always download more.

[@wasitacatisaw83]

With all the nuances of the Ryzen memory controller, I think RAM needs its own video.

[@pilzner1118]

I don’t feel like RAM is an important topic of discussion right now. I think 32gb/24gb is the new minimum, but other than that, the jump to DDR5 is eh 🤷🏻 As weird as this sounds, the quantity of memory is more important than the transfer speed. 32gb of RAM at 3600Mt/s is actually going to give you faster load speeds than 16gb at 4200Mt/s Also, modern mobos perform better with only 2 slots occupied as opposed to all 4- this is especially true if you’re using an AMD CPU (at least it was last time I ran numbers)

[@wasitacatisaw83]

​@@pilzner1118Memory timings are extremely important for AM5, as is using 2 sticks instead of 4. Hence why I said RAM should have its own video. The wrong ram can severely hamstring your system.

[@erraldstyler]

@@wasitacatisaw83 no, you literally just buy 2 sticks 6000 cl30 and you´re good.

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

I used to upgrade at least once a year when I was working in the industry but now, I only do it if there is a compelling reason to do so...

[@RealAlphaDrum]

I ran an i7-4700k and a GTX 960 for 10 years. I built a new PC a couple months ago. i9-12900k and 3060, 1000w PSU and up to 256GB of potential RAM.. So, I plan to get 10+ years out of this one with a GPU upgrade around year 5. Thanks MicroCenter! 👍👍👍👍👍 The thing I look for in a MB is I want a ton of USB ports, that's about it. If it has 12 USB ports, sign me up, along with all the other stuff, like M2, sata ports, but most of that is standard so, I look for USB ports.

[@CryoShot]

My pc is from 2016, cost me about 1k. Still does everything I need it to almost 10 years later.

[@tylerweston6358]

4:38 i hate when my core is pegged

[@Jeff.78]

🤣💀🏆

[@mikesunboxing]

Needs more thermal paste 😂

[@tim3172]

Then stop asking for it every night.

[@mziv112]

U won the comments section for today m8😂

[@Lurch-Bot]

Some people like that.

[@mr.guillotine1312]

I'm poor (like disabled living on less than a $1,000/mo level of poor), so I upgrade what I can when I can find a way to afford it...still pushing my 3600 and 1650 Super for now.

[@bass69player]

Rocking a 1050 ti here.😊

[@mr.guillotine1312]

@@bass69player Damn, ok, you need a new GPU more than I do lol

[@kennethverhoeven3972]

Silently sobbing in the corner with my gt740m

[@mromutt]

Same boat here, but a 5600x and a 2070. It really is starting to feel like I will never be able to get another gpu ever again or even ever move to another platform. My last splurge was finally getting an nvme for my gaming pc a couple months ago. haha even my case is 12 or 13 years old XD same with psu

[@orfe]

i5 4440 with AMD Radeon HD 5770 (1 gb Vram)

[@wilfredolopez5375]

Great discussion regarding the amount of drives you should have. I learned something new about having to many drives. Thanks.

[@AlphaSnowLion]

An important about about PCIe lanes is always check the motherboard's specs, that'll tell you which M.2 shares data lanes with that other connector. If there's none, you're free to use them all with no compromises. Most modern midrange or high-end boards typically have no such trade-offs

[@JackpotJeff]

00:18 the fans in the pc behind Jay started to spin.. spooky

[@johndoe2635]

Oh snap, good catch. They seem to be spinning throughout the video. Is it plugged in?

[@Lurch-Bot]

System is powered up and occasionally the GPU gets just warm enough for the fans to spin. Then it cools down and they stop.

[@jaredbesanceney1]

GPUs preserve their proprietary fans by using them only when needed. Which is rare at idle.

[@mwales2112]

Still rocking an X470, 5700X, 6700XT. It's old but still rocking. Did pickup a Mini PC with a Ryzen 7 7840HS with an Oculink dock with an older 5700XT, DDR5, 990Evo 2tb that I've been playing on for a couple of weeks and it rocks... On custom water...

[@itsKtoday]

I have an 5700x I upgraded to for cheap from a 3600. People be sleeping on the 5700x with a low tdp 65watts and great performance.

[@Lu-db1uf]

I have something similar that I fully expect to last me at least another 5 years without any issues.

[@zenshakujo8070]

Depends on what you play. I have a ryzen 5600x with 6800xt gpu and I can play 2k with 60 to 100 fps new games raster only. Should be good at least 2 years, even more if games are shit like in the past few years.

[@cbz21]

Bro it's not even close to old when you have dudes on intel 3rd and 4th gen they gotta upgrade.

[@oimazzo2537]

Similar system, just 5800x and a 6600xt but it feels still rather new to me

[@gr81matt]

EVGA Build: Hey! Look at me!!

[@seanwhelpley3935]

Having multiple nvme drives taking up lanes and effecting the gpu is something I had no idea about and is the best piece of info in this video. Thanks 👍

[@Hjominbonrun]

Iceberg Tech did a great video of this, taking an old PC and testing with RAM upgrade, HDD to SSD upgrade, GPU and CPU. With benchmark numbers for ach and combinations of some.

[@BrokeBeardedGuy]

The PCIe Lane limit is still a great reason why SATA SSDs should still exist. If we can fit 8 TB on an M.2 NVMe There's no reason why they can't pack more of the slower older flash on a SATA drive for higher capacity at a cheaper price

[@indrahaseo]

Cheaper prices is not good after all

[@BrokeBeardedGuy]

@@indrahaseo You must be one of the eBay sellers with a GTX 970 for $500

[@indrahaseo]

@@BrokeBeardedGuy nice jokes 😂😂😂

[@Hybris51129]

Or you can get 24TB on a HDD and be done with it. A SSD is great as a dedicated scratch drive but once you start talking about bulk storage and budgets spinning steel is your best friend.

[@BrokeBeardedGuy]

@@Hybris51129 The throughput of a single spinning platter is bismal compared to even cheap SATA SSDs. Would be better off using my NAS for a game library

[@lunsmann]

Lately I've been upgrading my life. Earlier this year I bought my very first brand new car. I'm 58. Then I upgraded my house by having a ducted reverse cycle air-conditioner installed. Coming up soon I will be upgrading my house again by having a battery added to my rooftop solar installation. No finance, no credit - all cash. I cleared my mortgage 4 years ago. My gaming PC is doing fine. I last upgraded that 16 months ago when I replaced everything except the GPU (RTX3080 10GB). My previous rig sported the still decent Intel I7-8086K cpu, but Starfield was inbound, and well, it was time.

[@lunsmann]

@jeremiah61667 - I got lucky. I really did. Because when I left school at the end of 1985 there were good jobs that paid well for everyone. It was easy. I bought my first home in 1999 when I was 33 years old (I waited far too long) when house prices were still low. Like 3 x average income LOW. My advice to young adults today? Thats a tough one. Start saving every week from the moment you get your first job. Even if it's only $5. Don't buy that new iPhone. Just no. Pay cash (or use a debit card) for everything. Do not put anything on credit card unless you are able to pay it off in full before the end of the month. Sounds boring? It is. Because previous generations of rich ****s have ruined your future. House prices out of reach, rents that are killing you, jobs that barely cover the basics (if that even) and student debt up to your eyeballs. I have come to hate capitalism with a passion.

[@Alphacuremom55]

Respect

[@sev_elm]

2:55 For me its the other way around, recently upgraded my PC, bought everything new except GPU which is an RTX 2070, and its really holding back my CPU and needs to be replaced ASAP.

[@SpicyEvo]

I did gpu first 7900xtx for 410 after selling my 3080, then pieced ddr5, am5 motherboard, and was ready to buy the 7800x3d when it was 330 but the following week it shot up and now going for 700 no thanks. Have to see what the 9800x3d going for and get it launch day

[@sev_elm]

@@SpicyEvo i actually bought a new case, motherboard, ram, m.2, psu, aio, lots of extra fans and cpu(7800x3d actually), only thing i kept is my old RTX 2070 from my previous build thinking it would be good enough for now but its not. Now I'm probably gonna get a 7900 GRE because i found a good deal on it, i know i should probably wait since the new cards are just around the corner but i really cant wait, i wanna play Wukong and Space Marine 2 properly :p

[@wartornhero21]

Re: Power supply. Unlike your case.. your power supply has capacitors that are rated for a certain amount of run time. I am running a EVGA 750W power supply from 2013. The capacitors inside are rated for about 100,000 hours. 100,000 hours if ran for 24 hours comes out to about 11 years. While I don't run my PC 24 hours a day. You can extrapolate that, I feel like I am "Pushing" it because I am now pushing 11 years. Probably replace in a year or two.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

The lifetime of the capacitors depends more on hours in given temperature instead of purely about total hours. The lifetime goes more like this: 105C = 2000 hours 95C = 4000 85C = 8000 75C = 16,000 65C = 32,000 55C =64,000 45C = 128,000 When your capacitor says "105 °C" on the side, it doesn't mean it will last 100k hours in 105 °C, just that it will still work in 105 °C instead of instantly failing.

[@josemilian4167]

great advice. only part i am still unsure how to look out for is the lane consideration and how adding more drives can limit performance.

[@DINGOKIS]

The real bottleneck is my wallet so upgrades are very delayed 😂

[@killerbsting1621]

I just upgraded from 5800x/3070ti to 7950x3d/4080super. I am so pleased with the results 😮

[@weakness9343]

Im jealous!

[@jabronilifestyle]

wew lad that's a math slayer

[@CaptainCave-t3n]

I went from 11700k/3060 to 7800x3d/4080 super.

[@TheOlneyandrewl01]

​@CaptainCave-t3n in reality you could have skipped the mobo, ram, and cpu saved roughly $600 and still had the same performance. You already had a monster cpu.

[@williamclark206]

Lol I just upgraded to a 5800x and a rx6700xt. I wish I had the cash for something better

[@07markus]

19:03 Regarding the power supply, remember that new graphic cards and mainboards require different plugs, and your current (old) power supply probably does not have it. If you have a high-end PSU with replaceable cables, you can replace cables/connectors. In my case, the only solution to connect my 4090 was to buy a new PSU.

[@Hybris51129]

While true PSU plugs have been otherwise stable for years so the old wisdom isn't completely useless.

[@tommy3888]

I upgraded from i5-6500/R9 390 to 7800x3d/7900xt two months ago when Microcenter opened in Miami.

[@paulhord8081]

Thank you so much for this jay! My family and friends were wondering why I bought a new monitor and went from 1080p for 1440p. I tried explaining that it would give me better performance but they couldn’t understand that.

[@brianzjones]

Never skimp on the monitor! -bZj

[@itsKtoday]

It seems to get lost in the discussion and is the most important component of any gaming setup!

[@crazybrain87]

Some of the parts on the higher end boards are higher quality and can sometimes save things that a lower end motherboard may not

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

literally the least important part of a computer, though.

[@crazybrain87]

@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 least important how can that even be a relevant when with out the motherboard there is no computer nothing connects or talk are you ignorant may be least in the fact that these day the board are built alot better and no matter how much you pay your gonna get a decent experience but doesnt mean its any less important cause just like any piece of the computer except the gpu is important to having a computer at all and like i said the price just means a higher chance of saving other parts connected to the motherboard which is basicly saying that the price is more based on what you feel safe buying and what you have the money for.... which is why all information is important for even the most beginner person to learn before they do anything about building a computer cause they may feel safe spending less like toasty bros does alot or they may only feel safe having the best of the best and if the info they have doesnt give all the information they need then they arent well enough informed to make that decision... same idea that goes as to weather you want rgb or not or need it or not

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

@@crazybrain87 dude, you went on a full rant and hurled insults and implied things i never said. yeah, you still need one, but it's the least important part of a computer. it's not even half as important as you make it seem. all you need it to do is connect the stuff together.

[@crazybrain87]

@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 and if the chipset isnt right or if the stuff your plugging in isnt right and you plug stuff in to the wrong slots which cheaper motherboards can allow for thing to be plugged in wrong as proven manytimes on many tech channels i would say its one of the most important items because if your over confident or just to ignorant then the importance of that item grows so just because its not that important to you because your obviously someone that only looks at what he does in that situation rather then looking at every situation out their then yes mobo mean nothing cause as the Chinese and other asian countries have proven you can get things that arent supposed to work together to work but just cause your not the stupid one that might not research things doesnt make anything that i said less truth and all you did was make me prove again that the motherboard is subjective to each person rather then being objective cause what you think is ok may not be to me which make you ignorant because your missing an entire idea of what i said let alone that just cause you think its the least important thing in the computer doesnt mean anything with out that board nothing would communicate nothing

[@luvoverthewall]

Nice subtle Linus reference 🤣

[@sopcannon]

Without dropping anything.

[@Lucky-hk1cm]

I run a Fx 8350 with a gt 1030 I guess I still have some time left.

[@johnthomas2970]

Wasn’t it only a few years ago that Jay moved into this studio? Growing fast!

[@andromydous]

My golden rule has always been that I will never spend more on a motherboard than what I spend on a CPU. Until recently, that is. With the most recent CPU upgrade, I got a MB that was about $80 more. I could argue that MB pricing is really high right now and that I care about having passive cooling on every spot that needs it. Those are legitimate reasons. However, I just really liked the look of the motherboard. An X670 MB is probably more than what I need for a R5 7600, if truth be told. But, it leaves room for any upgrades that I might want to do in the future. My rule for when to upgrade has always been two things: "Can I afford to upgrade?" and "Is it better to just build a new computer and re-purpose/give away the current one?"

[@goldenheartOh]

2:20 if you need a tool to tell you you need an upgrade, then you don't need an upgrade

[@jamesmcmahonii8433]

Do you have the money? Yes = There you go No = There you go See how easy that was?

[@Alphacuremom55]

Wrong. Americans have this thing called financing and credit cards

[@jamesmcmahonii8433]

@@Alphacuremom55 fantastic

[@MitchSter226]

I just upgraded my monitor to the 32” Samsung Odyssey G8 4K OLED and my god my setup is like a jet engine on idle. I believe I do need to do a thorough deep clean and repaste the CPU, but I’m not sure if my CPU isn’t cut out for 4K resolutions. Running a RTX3080ti and 5800x with Corsair 240mm AIO. Happy to hear thoughts? CPU runs at 50 C + on desktop idles and watching content.

[@_Alex_F]

This is actually a good explanation of a bunch of things that might be considered obvious but not necessarily are. Cheers! 🙌

[@domalash]

there are many people with old computers that don't really know they have a really old computer.. they are waiting for windows to boot up.. they are waiting for browser windows to load... they are waiting for games to load... they are waiting for files to copy and install.. and the reason is often because they have an old HDD (Hard Disk Drive) to store their data programs and operating system.. if you're new at computers and you're reading this, then please know that computers should be very "snappy" nowadays... when you load a browser or make a new tab it should be almost instant.. like magic.. poof the whole screen is loaded.. this is because most computers use SSDs (Solid State Drives) now... they are much faster than old HDDs... games may still take a long time to load but if you compared the two drives you'd usually see a huge difference for many games.. sometimes old hard drives can seem fast.. when loading sequential video files for a cut scene for example... but when a game loads thousands upon thousands of files from your drive to your computer memory and or video memory, then an HDD can be super slow.. a HDD is like a record player with a needle but maybe 4 to 8 records with needles stacked on top of each other.. it can read data in sequence quick and easy.. like a song recorded along a single track because the needle just follows that one track.. but if you had to move the needle to play 8 millions short songs then it would be very slow.. an SSD is like having all your data stored on ram.. you can access any location super fast.. and you can move the data super fast.. we measure the speed in IOPS.. Solid State Drives do about 20,000 to 100,000 IOPS and Hard Disk Drives do about 75 to 100 IOPS.. and the data transfer rate in MB/s.. a Solid State Drives can do 300 to 500 MB/s minimum and some do 2000 to 7000 MB/s now.. where HDD drives only do 100 to 160 MB/s PLUS you have to realize that your computer is doing hundreds if not thousands of little operations for your apps as you multitask (use multiple applications at the same time).. plus your computer's operating system does so many things.. recording logs.. reading logs.. reading icons and fonts.. reading and writing browser cookies and sounds.. and all these apps need to transfer stuff into memory so it's quick to access when needed.. so again if you're new at computers and you're reading this, and your computer only has an old HDD type hard drive, then you really should consider upgrading the hard drive to an SSD... HOWEVER.. chances are if your computer only has an HDD then it's probably time to upgrade the whole system.. however again, I did just upgrade a system for a friend.. it had a decent cpu but an old HDD.. i added a 1TB SDD and now it's super super super snappy.. it could also use another 8GB of ram but it only has a 1650 graphics card so it can't play games that need a ton of ram.. but there's a ton of games it can play and now it's snappy doing everything else tldr.. upgrade HDD to SSD to make slow computer super snappy!

[@orion9k]

My computer is from 2014, it's an intel 4790k and everything is snappy in windows even thou it's 10 years old by now.

[@domalash]

@@orion9k ya my cpu is only 27% higher benchmark.. but do you have an ssd in it? that was main point of my comment

[@0wl999]

You are generally correct on the hdd, but there's one problem for gamers: storage space for games. 8tb and larger Nvme ssd's are still ridiculous expensive, and for me at least I need minimum 12tb. If manufacturers can get a 20 tb ssd down to a good price then I might consider replacing the hdd for storage.😮

[@domalash]

@@0wl999 sure but you only need a 1TB drive for your OS to make it super snappy.. and you still have 900gb for at least 5 massive games.. probably 20 easy.. and even 2TB are cheap.. even 4TB is under $500.. that's a crap ton of games.. sure 8TB is expensive right now but they were lower... but you can even get two 4TB drives for less.. i only got 1TB.. i do uninstall stuff .. i just keep my small games installed.. try to keep 500 gigs free.. but HDD storage is great for tv and movies.. ssd makes no difference there usually.. and can always install a game on it in a pinch.. and still have snappy os and apps.. people have said an SSD is not that much better for games.. i think the game databases are loaded like sequential files so it's pretty fast if it's not fragmented i guess.. but maybe that's when it was 150mb/s vs 300mb/s .. wonder now that we got 7000mb/s read speeds if games load super fast on them compared to hdd

[@Setmose]

Might talk about what OS upgrade does to general system load / game performance. Running a new OS on older hardware can be done, but sometimes it is the moment to do hardware upgrade as well. It’s the same with phones.

[@StephenPierceT13]

As for adding storage, Look into your motherboards manual. it will tell you what happens if you install drives. My system had lanes dedicated to one M.2 drive, and the second shared with some SATA connectors. Those SATA connectors would be turned off if I had installed a second M.2 Drive, and I did. The remaining SATA connectors I'll use for mechanical drives for data I don't need NVME speeds for, or backup.

[@Lukiel666]

My last upgrade was Boxing Day, upgraded from 24" monitor to an Asus Tuf 27" monitor. Absolutely no regrets. Did I need it? No. Does it make my GOG games, WoW, POE, and streaming videos look better? Damn right it does. Also I watch Mandarin TV shows with English subtitles. "The Princess and the Werewolf", "Duolou Continent" and "Different Princess" at the moment. Way better than western TV.

[@Filmmaker809]

I upgraded last October 2023. I upgraded from an Intel i7 4790k with x5 Sata SSD's, 32GB DDR3 Ram and Nvidia GTX 1070 and I upgraded to a Intel i9 13900k (Should have got the i9 14900k!) DDR5 96GB Ram, Nvidia RTX 4070TI with x4 M.2 SSD's and the peformance for video editing and gaming was incredible!

[@andjon3710]

I also have an I7 4790K and a 1070. Gonna go with an AM5 plattform and Ryzen 7 9800 x3d with 32 GB DDR5. Gonna be nice to see the difference in Transport Fever 2, Cities Skylines 2 and that I can finally play Starfield.

[@wenlung84]

19:45 is so true for case, choose a case that looks great to you and it will last like forever.. I have a 20 year old case that I'm happy with it everyday, and will still using it for my 4th generation system upgrade 😆

[@JesterMotley]

I've been buying/building systems since the IBM AT/XT days, so "when do I upgrade" has varied over the years. In general though? Every 5-6 years or so. And its usually a full/complete upgrade, as the tech has usually advanced enough to mean a new socket, or sufficient changes like M.2, to need to upgrade everything but the PS and Case... and given I've still got a 12 year old system in use (gotta love linux), the case and PS usually get bought new too. I budget for what I can afford, and plan for upgrades/add-ons over the intervening years. Mostly addons, like additional memory, a second M.2 drive, more spinning disk, etc.

[@rayb2034]

Good video Jay. Pretty interesting to get different points of view on each component. After many years of building my own systems (right back to 386 days). What triggers me is when a game comes out and I want to run it. I really enjoyed playing Far Cry so Crysis was a major one for this going from a 7800GT to 8800GTX SLI (finding it still wouldn't run maxed out lol) with an AMD64+ 6400, but this lasted until I got 2 x 280GTXs, which lasted until I got 2 x 980GTXs, which lasted until 3080ti. This also triggered a PSU upgrade to 860W. My old Antec 900 was still good with all the cooling options available. I have however, broken this rule twice. The first was updating from my I7 920 (with an 800MHz stable OC), to an FX8350 on the advice of a mate. What a waste of time that was. I was disappointed. The other was changing from a 3080ti to a 4090 for aesthetic reasons as it looked better in my new case! BTW, the 920 and 2 x 280GTXs pairing are still in use today from the person I sold them to when I went to piledriver!

[@omarlara1556]

Agree on power supply im still using my antec signature 850w since 2009 and works perfect

[@JamesCobb-x4p]

I built a new one every year or so built two new ones in the past year and can’t wait for the 50 series come out next month

[@Dbeastlygamer95]

The drive thing is exactly what I'm doing on my next build. My current build has like 2 m.2 drives, 3 SSD's, and 2 HDD's because I was too stubborn to just go big the first time. When I do a new build here in a year or two, I'm literally just going to get the biggest size drive possible and the next time I get a new drive it's going to be because of a new gen or something.

[@akmarksman]

My golden rule that has served me well for the past 20 years? Corsair PSUs. I've only had 1 die after working well in 2 systems over a 7 year period. Even then, it was the PCI-E connector..all the other plugs worked fine.

[@roasty80]

I recently had to upgrade . Was on i5 quad core with a 1gb gpu. I wanted to play new games so built an entire system. Don't feel the need to upgrade as runs anything I throw at it to a level I'm happy with

[@Bruhmoment-d5f]

I won’t upgrade for at least another 5 years I have a 3090 and 64 gigs of ram. When I do upgrade I’ll just upgrade to the top graphics card at the time. Then I should be good for another 5-10 years honestly. At that point I may need to change out parts just because of age but we will have to see at that point

[@Alphacuremom55]

What do you do that requires that much RAM? Not an insult just curious

[@Wolfie_Cupcake]

One rule I always try to follow is don't get dragged by the Newest top end product 1. It typically goes way beyond what I actually need, and there for the value just doesn't exist for the cost to bite into it anymore. 2. I'd rather not have to feel like I'm hitting a brick wall due to some bleeding edge bug that didn't get ironed out yet. (This is partially a lesson I accidentally had hit me in the face when the RTX 30xx series came out. Tried to get either the 70 and 60 failed to get both just kept on going with a 1070 I bought from a friend which was at least a reasonable step up from my 970.)

[@arandominternetuser9099]

I just built my first PC ever and I'm loving the experience. I might upgrade the GPU in a couple/few years, but that's it. If my computer becomes unusable, then I'll upgrade. FPS in games is high and overall performance, CPU GPU and RAM, are great.

[@peterhallbus1114]

I upgrade whenever I can get a great deal on a part (normally auctions like ebay), then I gather the used parts and often add some cheaper new or used parts and flip a whole computer this normally gets me free upgrades in the end.

[@tsunderemerc2963]

The only upgrades I'd really give my PC is just small ones. 2/4 RAM slots being used? Or 1/3 SSD slots being used? May as well fill those in. I think a lot of it is just realizing that unless you're wanting 4k max settings 200fps, what you have can work perfectly fine. I have a 6650XT and an i5 chip and it plays any game I want reasonably well at 1080p and 60-80fps with medium-high settings. Old faithful, if you will. (outside of bad optimization)

[@ACE7F22]

13:14 Just a little tip, if you're making 1 purchase, a larger drive is usually cheaper per GB than smaller drives. Unless you specifically need separate physical drives, you get a better deal just getting 1. Although, if you're interested in an HDD RAID, multiple smaller drives can multiply the performance, so may be worth getting 2x4TB(500mbps), instead of just 1x8TB(250mbps).

[@sykoskid]

CPU amd 3900x ,gigabyte 6800xt ,ddr4 3200mhz , artic 360mm cooling it’s been running great for 5 years now ,I ran mechanic simulator 2021 software and right away all fans and temps went up to 72 degrees

[@AppaFappa]

I found a solution to my "pc building" itch without the high price tag: servers. Buying second hand or low cost parts to build a server for my home video streaming and little projects. Haven't actually upgraded my gaming desktop in years.

[@skyblue11685]

You can also get 20-30 Celsius cooler just by adjusting the voltage of the overclocked cpu by 1% in a few area's. The cpu will only be at 99% max utilization, but it will run a lot cooler which equates to less instability issues due to over heating.

[@Ginrikuzuma]

I don't tend to upgrade individual parts. I tend to just build a whole new PC. I just don't upgrade every new graphic generation. For example I'm looking to build a new PC when the 50 series comes out as I'm on a 1070TI

[@ProfaneVestige]

I recently upgraded because I started playing games that just required more, combine that with the desire to play at higher settings it was pretty easy to say 'I need an upgrade'. So I decided to full send and just get a slew of changes and upgrades. Last thing on my list is some storage but thats an afterthought since my SSD is fine and the change to NVME isnt something that I really need

[@Commander_Strider]

I have helped friends build and upgrade PC's. The most important component that all else revolves around is the monitor. Getting 300fps in any game doesn't matter if you are at 1080p 60hz.