Should I move to Germany or Sweden? | Life in Sweden vs Life in Germany

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@Gert-DK 4 ай бұрын

I am Danish and know both countries well. As described here in the video, the countries are very similar, I will not comment on the details, as that is generally also what I see. There are two things that speak against Germany: First, the digital revolution has more or less bypassed Germany. The public sector is still heavily burdened with paper and things take time, if you have a good amount of patience, it is not a problem. As an example, I can tell you that here in Denmark a whole wedding industry has arisen, it simply takes a very short time in Denmark. Often only two hours, instead of the many months in Germany. I know the Swedish system is in many ways the same as here in Denmark. I want to talk about an experience I had here in Denmark, which I am sure could have happened in Sweden as well, but not in Germany. I had a question for my municipality. It was a simple A or B question and I knew who to ask. I sent an email and believe it or not, 10 minutes later there was a reply in my inbox. Second, If you have kids, that have to go to school, Germany is not good. The teachers are good and the teaching is not flawed. The problem is the system. After the first years, the students are split up. School and parents must decide which of three branches the child should continue in. In reality, no one can predict how a child will develop, especially around puberty, many things happen. We had the same system here in Denmark until the mid-70s. I was actually in the last class in the old system. Later I was able to see how bad the old system was. I know that German politicians are aware of the problem and would really like to see it changed, but as I understand it, it is the federal system that makes it difficult to make the big changes. If you don't have children who go to school, it doesn't matter. I would just like to mention that there are two things that speak for Germany. According to Merkel's government (yes, a couple of years ago), Germany will lack 1 million skilled workers in 2030, so if you are among them, there should be a future. If you are a truck driver, you are also on the green branch, there is also a shortage of them, in fact in most of Europe. As far as I remember, it is quite well paid in Germany. If you are a city girl/boy, Berlin is a good place to live. As in other major German cities, you can completely live without a car and the large expense such a car entails. Berlin's public transport is in a special class, cheap and easy to figure out. Hamburg and Munich may also be the place for you. Stockholm is a nice city, but nothing like Berlin. Berlin is a very international city, especially around Prenzlauer Berg. Both countries are based on Social Democratic politics, therefore there is a great similarity between them.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input! I totally agree on the topics of digitalisation (which I definitely should have mentioned) and school system. Absolutely! :)

@Gert-DK 4 ай бұрын

@@LivingSwedish I can actually reveal a secret. The Alps ain't made of dirt and rocks. It is shredded paper from the German bureaucracy. In the US, they called it Rocky Mountains. 🙂

@soumadip_banerjee 3 ай бұрын

How's the tech scene in Danmark? The tech startups and software scene in general?

@Gert-DK 3 ай бұрын

@@soumadip_banerjee I am not the right person to answer that question. I don't have enough knowledge. But as a layman, I think we are doing very well. I asked Bing AI: The tech scene in Denmark has been thriving, with notable growth in recent years. Here are some key points: Unicorns: Denmark boasts several successful startups that have achieved unicorn status (valuation of $1 billion or more). Notable examples include: Chainalysis: A blockchain data platform solving cybercrime cases in the cryptocurrency space. JustEat: A food delivery platform that originated in Denmark and later expanded globally. Lunar: A digital bank challenging traditional banking models1. Investments: In 2021, Danish startups received over 14 billion DKK (1.8 billion EUR) in investments, nearly quadrupling from the previous year. Foreign investors now participate in about 70% of all investment rounds1. Innovation: Denmark is at the forefront of new ideas and innovation, whether in green technologies or digital solutions. Startups play a crucial role in challenging existing businesses and keeping the Danish business community competitive2. Overall, Denmark’s tech ecosystem is vibrant, attracting both local and international talent. 🚀

@Wolf10193 Ай бұрын

What better for warehouse work

@cynic7049 4 ай бұрын

More about dental care in Sweden. 1- It is free to 23 not just 18. 2- you get a small subsidy early 600kr (60Euro)/year until 29 and from 65 (should cover at least one checkup/year) and 300kr (30Euro)/yeat from 30 to 64 (should cover at least one checkup/2year) . 3-There are a high cost protection in dental care to but less generous. Up to 3000kr you pay all (except the yearly subsidy) For the part of cost that is over 3000kr the government covers 50%, and after 15000 they cover 85%. But only up to the set standard price list (it is rare that a dentist charges more). Ad some things are not cover, mainly cosmetical dental care.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! This is super useful :)

@HenrikSvensson-is4mq 4 ай бұрын

1- It is free to 23 not just 18. (Wrong, is going to be 19 year, becuse pepole miss used, they booked time but did not show up or tell the dentist this cost alot of money, so they are going to or already lowerd it to 19 years)

@martinlomsater9660 4 ай бұрын

Or you travel to Riga or Tallin the dentist’s are good and a lot cheaper 🤗

@annar6294 3 ай бұрын

When it comes to bureaucracy I'd say the UK is pretty easy going and most, if not all things, can be done online. I wish I could move to Sweden, the proximity to nature sounds very appealing to me. As an introvert the place sounds dreamy to me.

@janolsson5531 2 ай бұрын

I have partly lived in Germany for 10 y and have a german partner. The countries are actually in many areas very different. Germany is a very conservative an unmodern country. The digitalisation and digital infrastructure is about ten years after Sweden and on the level of many east european countries. Authorities are not using it and it is still in some places useing fax. Paper is everywhere. Heavy buerochrasy. A very complicated tax system that makes it complicated and a paradise for tax consulters. It is not existing an equal health system. You need to have a health insurance. If you dont have a (expensive) private insurance then you can expect that many doctors will not accept you and you will not in some cases get the best medicin. It is not existing a homeservice for elderly that is subsidiced. Which makes that the (often) part time working daughters needs to engage or find a expensive private solution. If youre not rich you can not expect to get on a nice senior living instead an elderly home with low standard. In traffic germans are more aggressive and often making signs, honking etc if they think you drive to slow etc. Germany is a very hierarkikal society. It is partly built by the Sie, herr etc. Germans explain it as politness but it is related to age, position. It makes it sometimes complicated if you dont know age or position when you talk to someone. A german boss is usually not someone you question or critisize or talk open to. That is not acceptable. Feed back culture is barely not existing. It is common that employese are afraid of the boss and think its the best to do what youre told and not come up with own ideas och questioning. It is common when you as a customer ask someone about something that you think is strange or wrong that they answer thats how it is, thats the rule. When yuo ask but why. They dont know. They just follow the instruction or rule not understanding the context or reason. All this seems to be good for building vehicles and machines which germany isxm successfull in. But for new creative businesses it seems to be a disaster. The digital business, music, entertainment etc. The education system is built on a very hierarcical system with a lot of squeesing in facts. It is not used digital tools. Many parents are afraid of giving teachers feed back as the kid could suffer from this. Just after some years are the kids separated in various trails leading to higher or lower education. That makes that if you are a late bloomer or not having parents able to support you get early sorted in another direction. Sweden and Germany is very different. These are just some things.

@LivingSwedish 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Really interesting!

@katherineremes4053 4 ай бұрын

Great video I learned a lot. The two countries are more alike than I thought they would be

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the feedback! :)

@jurgen4466 4 ай бұрын

Sweden because its nature, space, digitalisation, loyalty and possibilities in regard of education 🇸🇪

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

🥰

@realleftover 4 ай бұрын

Hi! What about the crime rates in Sweden? I'm German and things are beginning to look grim here in Germany.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Do you currently live in Sweden?

@realleftover 4 ай бұрын

@@LivingSwedish leider noch nicht haha ich wollte aber unbedingt zumindest mal für mindestens ein halbes Jahr hoch und mir das alles selber genauer anschauen :) ich denke dass Deutschland viel zu dicht besiedelt ist und dass die Dinge hier nicht mehr besser werden… schauma mal

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

@@realleftover Mach das! :)

@GunnarCreutz 4 ай бұрын

In general Swedes and Germans are quite similar. The complicated bureaucracy in Germany is one of the few differences between the two countries. My former neighbour is an old German man, who have lived in Sweden for over 50 years. He really hates bureaucracy! Maybe I should ask him if that is why he left Germany for Sweden? BTW, the picture at 23:51 is not from Sweden, but from Lofoten, Norway.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the location mix-up in the video, I appreciate your attention to detail.

@mihailb8280 2 күн бұрын

What about salaries vs prices ? Is the same ?

@tomeng9520 4 ай бұрын

Hej Uli ! Sverige/Yta - Sweden/Surface 450 295 km² Tyskland/Yta - Germany/Surface 357 592 km² Skål Tom 😄 ☕

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Hej Tom! Thanks for the info, always love learning something new about different countries.

@tomeng9520 4 ай бұрын

@@LivingSwedish Hi Uli ! Nu när är det sommar glöm inte dricka mycket vatten och använda solkräm. Stay safe take care. Skål Tom ☕😄

@erik.... 4 ай бұрын

I'm swedish and if a german knocked on my door and said "hey let's be friends, here's a beer, so what are we doing today?" I would be up for it for sure, but I think most people are a bit shy and don't really meet new people in that setting.

@texnoti 4 ай бұрын

Uli, not comparing, or watching more, but - are your partner fluid or somewhat speaking german? If not can that be a 'problem'? Not so much english speaking persons in germany? In big cities ofc but more rural? I hope you, both, stay as I think you contribute to our country.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

He can't speak German at all, okay, maybe a few phrases. I think he would have a bit of a harder time in Germany (or learn German then?!) because Sweden is better in speaking English for sure.

@texnoti 4 ай бұрын

@@LivingSwedish Ok, so stay here :-)

@stefankhoo1618 4 ай бұрын

Sweden and Germany are very similar. Germany is like a big Sweden. Also in GNI per capita PPP both are very similar.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

It's fascinating how similar Sweden and Germany are in many aspects!

@khanalprabhat 7 күн бұрын

Salaries are higher and there are more jobs available in Germany compared to Sweden, especially for highly skilled people working in niche fields. I am moving from Sweden to Germany mainly because of this.

@stefankhoo1618 7 күн бұрын

@ Average salary between Sweden and Germany are the same. Even GDP per capita is similar, Sweden is actually a little bit higher.

@khanalprabhat 7 күн бұрын

@@stefankhoo1618 oh yeah. Ignorance is bliss... German and Swedish net salaries were the same 10-15 years ago. Today German net salaries are 1.2-1.5 times higher (depending on profession). PS: I am talking about net salary. Not GDP per capita. GDP per capita is higher in Sweden. I know that.

@stefankhoo1618 7 күн бұрын

@ Im also talking about NET salary. Both countries have different tax systems and you need to take that consideration. Also in Germany you also pay some sum for health insurance which is included in taxes in Sweden. There is a bigger difference between top salaries and bottom salaries in Germany so I know that some top engineering and tech positions pay better. But then restaurant workers and bus drivers earn less in Germany. I work in the government and for me there’s no difference in salaries. Maybe even a bit higher in Sweden. So the median German on the street doesn’t earn 20-50% more than the median Swede. Then Germany would have a higher gross national income per capita and HDI which it doesn’t.

@niclaslindman 3 ай бұрын

Stockholm are lot more expensive than rest of country also Gothenburg are expensive live 🤔🇸🇪 Most people live in South of Sweden so cost more on south than north 🤔

@CoCooMa11 3 ай бұрын

Living in Sweden is Hell.... we have way to many criminals thanks to our politicianc now

@pauleriksson3147 4 ай бұрын

Most people live in the south of Sweden, then you have a lite bit in the middle where Stockholm is! Where did you get that from ? Stockholm ( including Gotland ) holds 2,2 million people which is the highest concentration per square km. Värmland,Halland and Västra Götaland also hold 2,2 million people but the area is almost 6 times larger than Stockholm. If you include “middle Sweden” as you say to Stockholm almost half of the Swedish population resides in the middle of Sweden . However on your question if you should move to Sweden or Germany. The countries are similar there is only a difference in flavour. It’s al personal preference.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate you taking the time to provide such detailed information about the population distribution in Sweden. It's comments like yours that make this community so engaging and informative.

@tilltugg Ай бұрын

10:55 Sweden may have have a smaller population.. but it is bigger than Germany in size.

@basicsurfer08 3 ай бұрын

if torn between two places i'd be living 6 months in sweden & 6 months in Germany lol

@Servant_of_Christ 2 ай бұрын

I live in Sweden and it sucks, so I'm moving to Portugal where Christianity is the largest religion. I can't even go down to the town square in Sweden to preach the gospel without risking Violence and death. The new peaceful and tolerant religion don't like when I do that.

@Gelis8 4 ай бұрын

Now I can only compare work-related comparisons between Germany and other countries against Sweden. My experience in the business world is that Germans are more loud and some very self-absorbed😉🥸, here I also have to mention Italians, I would probably say dirty players. English people are more sensible when it comes to business. But I'm probably a typical Swede who likes just "lagom"😀

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Hahaha Thanks for sharing!!

@AdvocateOfJamaica 4 ай бұрын

Do you have an idea of living in Borlangë? I'm a non EU National applying to Dalarna University, and want to use that to transition to living there. Also, in terms of making friends in Sweden, do they have expat communities where you could socialise (I hear Swedes are introverted so it's hard).

@777mannen-bx5ji 4 ай бұрын

There are a lot of international students at Högskolan Dalarna that you can socialise with. Also, there are a lot of immigrants in Borlänge. So you don't have to socialise with Swedes, imo. Just realize it's a small town.

@AdvocateOfJamaica 4 ай бұрын

@@777mannen-bx5ji Thanks for replying to my comment. May I ask if you're Swedish? As long as I can earn a good living, pay my taxes, and have a little left over to save towards goals, I'm fine with being in a small town or big city. I definitely want to make some Swedish friends to immerse myself in the culture and way of life, but from what I've been seeing they're very reserved, so I was just curious about other options.

@777mannen-bx5ji 4 ай бұрын

@@AdvocateOfJamaica yes, I'm Swedish. Swedes are reserved but it's definitely possible to make Swedish friends, especially if you're at University. I had a Swedish friend who went to that school and he made friends with a lot of international students. I also think that school has more international students than most Universities, at least it used to be that way a few years ago. Swedes are pretty friendly when you get to know them.

@LivingSwedish 4 ай бұрын

Living in Borlänge sounds like an exciting adventure! I don't know anything about it though 😅 Dalarna University is a great choice for your education. As for making friends, there are definitely expat communities in Sweden where you can socialize and meet new people.