Should I Really Be Tithing While Paying Off Debt?

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[@AlexBridgesKiev]

I know the Lord doesn't need my money, yet I acknowledge him as a source of all my income. He gave me physical body and ability to go to work. I gladly pay my tithing and feel it is a privilege, not a burden. Whatever the church decides to do with that money, it's up to them. As far as I am concerned, I pay my tithing to God. In the Bible God says "Prove me now if I will not open the windows of heaven". Many years ago I decided to test him and today my tithing equals my entire income just 10 years ago. So yes, I pay tithing, and will do it because the Lord is great

[@mukhethwanemanashi]

Couldn't have said it better 👍👍👍

[@kenny3269]

Amen

[@billboyd2009]

You are not giving the money to God. You are giving it to a bureaucracy of humans. Look where it led the Catholics!

[@brittneyyoung1882]

Awesome!

[@SteelRhinoXpress]

It shouldn't be whatever that church decides to do with that money. thats how people get ripped off and it has happened many times. an honest church should show you what they're doing with tithing money.

[@leahstewart6979]

Giving joyfully is the key. I tithed unemployment and didn’t run out of money for a year (and i sure should have!) even though unemployment only lasted 4 months. God provided money at just the right times, over and over. You can’t out give God!

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people talk about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a wealthy prosperous income. 🤗🙏

[@christslove8121]

And I have a pastor he's always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. He believe him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to that ministry so you can try giving to it if you like.

[@Kevin-jc1fx]

@@christslove8121 Unfortunately, those few success stories are not the portion of every tithers.

[@learneroftruth9697]

God provided for you, not because you "tithe", but because God loves you, sees your heart, and takes care of His children. The Biblical "Tithe" has nothing to do with the new testament church bride of Christ. You must "give", being led by the Holy Spirit, not by a "tithe" mandate made by some man, or a building, or group of people, that was strictly for the Levitical priesthood and had nothing to do with "money", but agricultural products; in other words, Food, that people ate together. Listen to the Holy Spirit instead of a man and see the True blessings of God!

[@leahstewart6979]

@@learneroftruth9697 I actually agree with you! I didn't give because of a mandate. I believe God blesses when we don't hold onto things of this world too tightly.

[@leodejesus9530]

What I’ve noticed is when I tithe I still have money left over after paying everything for the month. And when I’m selfish and don’t tithe thinking I’m saving money I end up with a negative balance.

[@MtelH]

I tithe based upon Malachi 3. I know there are abuses but I also know that God is able to supply all of my needs according to His riches and glory. Tithing, for me, is not obligation but a joyful decision. If you ever feel manipulated to tithe, don't do it. Let God speak to you about it because He loves a cheerful giver.

[@pepehands8224]

its 10% or nothing.

[@theplatinumcaraudio]

Well...Malachi 3 is talking to the priesthood which none of us are. Priests were literally stealing the meat and reselling it. Without learning the old testament we lose a lot of info. See 1 Samuel 2:12-17 Pastors use this to make people feel guilty. Believe it or not many seminaries teach pastors how to get people to "tithe" money. They also teach them that old testament law has passed but they hold on to tithing. Strangely enough money was never meant for a tithe. Remember when Jesus said render to ceasar want is cesars and render to God what is God's? On top of that if you did exhange money for a tithe you were penalized for it. I've had this discussion before and below is part of the convo. There is more than one tithe Types of Tithes 1. The Levitical Tithe Numbers 18:21-24New International Version (NIV) 21 “I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. 22 From now on the Israelites must not go near the tent of meeting, or they will bear the consequences of their sin and will die. 23 It is the Levites who are to do the work at the tent of meeting and bear the responsibility for any offenses they commit against it. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. They will receive no inheritance among the Israelites. 24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the Lord. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’” This was a tithe given to the Levites for their work. The Levites are the descendents of Levi, one of the twelve sons of Jacob (also known as Israel) which then became the twelve tribes of Israel. In the time of Moses, the entire tribe of Levi were designated as Priests, with Aaron as their High Priest. There duties were to take care of the upkeep and transportation of the Tabernacle (the physical representation of God's dwelling place) and to offer sacrifices on behalf of the people. (Who, in Old Testament times, were unable to access God by themselves.) The Levites still live to this day, as far as I know, but their office has become obsolete since the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who now holds the office of Prophet, Priest and King for all people. In sense the Levitical Tithe is obsolete. 2. The Festival Tithe - Deuteronomy 14:22-27New International Version (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. - Deuteronomy 16:16-17New International Version (NIV) 16 Three times a year all your men must appear before the Lord your God at the place he will choose: at the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the Festival of Weeks and the Festival of Tabernacles. No one should appear before the Lord empty-handed: 17 Each of you must bring a gift in proportion to the way the Lord your God has blessed you. This tithe was set aside for the festivals listed in the verse above. In sense the Festival Tithe is obsolete. However; should it be? Why is it that we don't keep to the festivals but we do celebrate Easter and Christmas which are not even mentioned in the bible and were never celebrated by anyone until the Romans adopted it from Pagan practices? Even still it wasn't until around 1860 that it became something big here in the US. That is a bit of another topic but I'd like to talk about that one too! 3. The Poor Tithe -Deuteronomy 14:28-29 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. -Deuteronomy 26:12 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. This tithe was for the poor and needy. It seems that the government has somewhat taken this one which isn't their responsibility. That's another topic too but not more political and I don't really talk politics. You mentioned it today and I was glad to hear it when you said that if someone doesn't feel comfortable giving to the church then give somewhere else where it is needed. I think a lot of people give in guilt thinking that they can't go to heaven or be accepted by God if they don't which to me is untrue. In turn some even give to the church and might want to be able to help someone in need and not be able to cause they gave their extra to the church or even say they can't cause they have to pay their tithe. That's where Matthew 23:23-25 kinda touches on. Helping others in need comes before the tithe. We shouldn't get so caught up in following the law and cause us to miss out on helping others in need. I know it is speaking on more than just that too. I just can't see Jesus saying to someone, "You gave that person all your money instead of to the church? Shame on you!" This tithe is still possible as I see it. I also understand that the church distributes this type of tithe to the poor and needy. As you stated today though, we can distribute it ourselves when we see fit.

[@theplatinumcaraudio]

4. The Priest Tithe This was the tithe for the Levites to give to the priests. - Numbers 18:25-32New International Version (NIV) 25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the Lord’s offering. 27 Your offering will be reckoned to you as grain from the threshing floor or juice from the winepress. 28 In this way you also will present an offering to the Lord from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites. From these tithes you must give the Lord’s portion to Aaron the priest. 29 You must present as the Lord’s portion the best and holiest part of everything given to you.’30 “Say to the Levites: ‘When you present the best part, it will be reckoned to you as the product of the threshing floor or the winepress. 31 You and your households may eat the rest of it anywhere, for it is your wages for your work at the tent of meeting. 32 By presenting the best part of it you will not be guilty in this matter; then you will not defile the holy offerings of the Israelites, and you will not die.’” -Deuteronomy 18:1-2New International Version (NIV) 18 The Levitical priests-indeed, the whole tribe of Levi-are to have no allotment or inheritance with Israel. They shall live on the food offerings presented to the Lord, for that is their inheritance. 2 They shall have no inheritance among their fellow Israelites; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them. Leviticus 27:30-34New International Version (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock-every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod-will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’”34 These are the commands the Lord gave Moses at Mount Sinai for the Israelites. If you redeem your land or food tithe you must add 1/5 to it. 1/5 of 100% is 20%. 20%=10%=30%. OR add 1/5 of the value of the tithe. 1/5 of 10% is 2%=12%. Technically we don't give food/grain tithes so shouldn't we either pay a 30% tithe or depending on the interpretation of the scripture 12% tithe to be biblically correct? The descendants of Aaron were priests: Exodus 28:41-42 NIV 41 After you put these clothes on your brother Aaron and his sons, anoint and ordain them. Consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 42 “Make linen undergarments as a covering for the body, reaching from the waist to the thigh. 43 Aaron and his sons must wear them whenever they enter the tent of meeting or approach the altar to minister in the Holy Place, so that they will not incur guilt and die. “This is to be a lasting ordinance for Aaron and his descendants. Technically only Aaron, his sons and descendants could be priests correct? Not even Jesus could be a priest: -Hebrews 8:4-5 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” This tithe was for the priests. If no one but Aaron and his descendants could be priests then technically there are no more priests correct? There is no longer a temple. Biblically speaking can we even tithe the way it was commanded here? Having said all this I'm not saying we shouldn't give. I think it is important and God will bless us for doing so. He has me. I just found it interesting. I know we are instructed to give and God loves a cheerful giver.

[@JonathanGrandt]

Malachi is written to priests who abused the tithe. Try again.

[@Nitronerd]

Do y'all practice all of the Law?

[@DanielIles]

*If you really can’t afford it consider giving your TIME!*

[@ultimaetsolder]

No, they just want money. Your time is not valuable enough.

[@AmayzinOne]

We cannot misguide anyone. You should always give a 1/10th of your income even if you don’t have much or are in a bind. God comes in front of the debt you have been given or the debt you have caused. Giving before you pay off your debt is an act of faith. A way to say: God I may be in a financial bind, but you are more important. I trust you with my money. In fact, if I had no money and all was taken from me, I’d still have everything I need in you. The very reason why you might be in a financial bind could be that God wants to move inside you. He wants you to trust Him even when things are chaotic and unknown. To the people compromising and saying, “Just give your time, or just give this instead.” Stop. Faith doesn’t compromise. God has the power to get you out of that financial bind and you are going to keep your 10% in a lack of faith that He can’t save your situation? Tithing is giving to God in praise and worship. It is a recognition that God is greater than any material item in this world. Give to Him first and He will help your situation. Trust Him in everything and with everything. Trust Him with your kids. Trust Him with your spouse. Trust Him with your money. Trust Him. Faith is as simple as that. And guess what? WHEN trials come, you will have built the faith to remain in Him fully, with your undivided love and trust.

[@Dancestudent08]

I wouldn’t even want to waste my time there either lol

[@AmayzinOne]

Curtis Jordan Fair enough. But you’re probably not a Christian so move on.

[@miltoncat]

Apex Funny Moments What? How do you know the state of one’s soul from one comment? And if this person is not a Christian, that changes nothing on how a Christian should treat them. So tired of an “us vs them” mentality when there is no such thing!

[@InvestingHustler]

People might get offended by this but most religions are just businesses. You can be generous and do good without giving money away.

[@Heyemeyohsts]

Churches are non-profits

[@kublaikavkaz4732]

Idiot.

[@rochester3]

@@Heyemeyohsts why do pasters need $50milno jets while the church is in need

[@cmacdonald1197]

Or give money to existing community services such as food banks, clothing donations etc. without paying for extra overhead (church building, pastor salary). I’m a Christian and think the house church movement is the way we should be doing things for numerous reasons, one of them is financial.

[@postal1468]

Well, I am going to Cheesecake Factory & rack up my bill...at the end I will not pay because I was hungry & they served me food 😁

[@sharonsdaughter3231]

I literally just thought of this question... And thought, I bet Dave Ramsey has a video on this. Thank You !

[@walth1119]

1 Peter 2:4 in there greed they will come up with cleaver lies to get hold of your money

[@bigdap100]

🤔To whom do you pay a tithe?? Anyone?

[@JS-tr7oo]

we just had a local pastor tell us not to pay the doctor bills for cancer, instead to pay our tithe. we got smart and walked out never to go back.

[@bigsterms]

That church should've tried to help in some way.

[@marielang9552]

You’re 100% correct nowhere in the Bible does it say that you must tithe 10%?

[@marielang9552]

Malachi was for the Levi priests who were stealing from the store house. They got cursed not the people.

[@TexasForever88]

@@marielang9552 the word tithe literally translates 10% in Hebrew.

[@blackberry8731]

If you realize everything we have comes from God, and we are a stewart of God's Money Tithing is not me giving God 10% of my money but Gods is letting me keep 90% of His Money Everything you have given me is yours God. The purpose of tithing is to teach us to always to put Gods first in our lives.

[@yeyamusic]

I’m non denominational Christian, I tithe , and I’ve seen God bless me as a result. I’ve lived from $500 in a month before, staying in a motel, and still tithed. He will reward you. He will restore you :)

[@chelseahancock6933]

Mahalia 'Yeya' Jean-Pierre this is so inspiring! I’m a single mom with two little ones, I’m definitely struggling but I never fail to tithe. I’m trusting the Lord.

[@BriLoveMusic]

@@lifeinsession5632 Amen! Praise God for your testimony. We used to struggle to pay rent but kept tithing and now my husband makes tripple and is about to be promoted again. Girl, God always makes a way. 😊❤ God bless you and your loved ones in Jesus' name. 🙏💕

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Chelsea Hancock No offense... but if you pay to the gov already in so much, plus you have kids... I personally would not Tithe, unless I was in a really really well off position, and actually could afford it.

[@Nzingathegem]

@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Your personal decision.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

The man and the boat.

[@levijackson3145]

Give from your heart with joy. God doesn't want you to give 10% and be bitter about it. Give something

[@barbaraleszczynski2214]

Levi Jackson I hear ya! So true!

[@walth1119]

when i see a bum struggling i give them 10 bucks or buy them a lunch etc. Don't give no $$ to corrupt churches all a tithing scam

[@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605]

One of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. You can sure try it if you enjoy giving.

[@SHIFT21_]

@@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 yessss!!! that ministry is the best!!! the book is so inspiring if you haven't read it yet!!

[@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605]

@@SHIFT21_ Awesome! I have never read it but I will try to find a copy. God bless you!

[@wiznup]

Tithing is an Old Testament standard. The only standard in the New Testament is to give from a generous heart, the motivation is love, not compulsion.

[@learneroftruth9697]

Hallelujah, amen!

[@t.b.t8073]

Please teach these guys who failed to understand between OT and NT.

[@marcvinos6968]

Nope wrong

[@NoDebtButLove]

It would bother me if I didn't tithe. It's a personal choice. 😃 I've noticed that tithing has improved my budgeting and strangely my debt is being paid down faster.

[@Angelinesekle]

No Debt But Love because God is the Creator so when you obey Him, stuff be working out when it doesn’t even make sense! Bless you brother in Christ! Keep tithing

[@NoDebtButLove]

@@Angelinesekle Amen! Thank you and continued blessings to you as well.😃

[@walth1119]

Come on ?? what R U talking about ?? Nothing magic here. These guys R twisting scripture. it was food not money 1 Peter 2:4 in there greed they will come up with cleaver lies to get your money. Don't trust no pastor telling you what to do with your money. That pastor needs to get a job. Peter was a tent maker.

[@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605]

If you need a better income CBN has UTube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth.

[@christslove8121]

You can also try giving to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry, one of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to it. He believes him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to it.

[@Adam-mj5hl]

I graduated law school in 2017 with a lot of student debt. Under my student loan income-based repayment plan, I pay 10% of my discretionary income in monthly student loan payments. If I tithed 10% of my monthly income, I would be essentially be making another student loan payment every month.

[@berenicesansone482]

I just love you Dave! I'm not Christian and neither a religious person; your teachings just makes sense, regardless what faith you have. I am grateful we get to have you in this crazy world where there is so much to learn...

[@msneedtoknow1]

Have you thought about given your life to Christ Jesus? This is not about religion.

[@sheldonspider86]

Tithing is Old Testament... Right along with sacrificing animals, stoning your children for disobedience and owning slaves. Why follow some of it and not all?

[@leratoshokane8316]

You are misinformed

[@obits3]

Not to mention that regular tithing was just a tax system.

[@sheldonspider86]

@Periwinkle Peryy Non-Jewish Christians do not have to keep kosher OR keep the sabbath. Read the letters of Paul and see the differences between Pauline Christianity and Jewish Christianity as practiced under James by the Jerusalem church. You're all over the place and are obviously only repeating something you were told.

[@cocomarineblu993]

There are also rules about how and why this was and a lot of this is challenged in the New Testament. Also some countries today under sharia law still allow this or at least execution for some things that shouldn’t be allowed

[@pepehands8224]

Fake news.

[@trebmaster]

Dave keeps saying it's indisputable that Christians need to tithe...the only issuance of it as a command is in the Old Testament, and the New Testament teaching in the covenant brought in by Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection teaches in 2 Cor. 9:7 that "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." This is wholly different from a tithe since "as he has decided in his heart" is not a set percentage. We need to stop saying tithes are for New Testament Christians. There is no ceiling or floor for it. Just be generous with what you can give.

[@stalstonestacy4316]

Do not forget that Jesus himself says he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. The new covenant doesn't eliminate the the old, only completes it.

[@rachels594]

Very well put

[@insideoutsideupsidedown2218]

And if Christ fulfilled the law, then we who are in him are no longer under the law (see Romans 7 for Paul’s thoughts on this).

[@kathycuddles1]

yes, he fulfilled the law, so we wouldn't be under its bondage. My thing is why do so many extract tithing from the law, change it from meat to money, even though money was very relevant, and apply it to Christians. Yet many do not practice all other things under the ceremonial law, in which tithing was categorized under? If we follow one part of the law, we must follow it all, or we're guilty of it all. A monetary tithe as a Commandment is found nowhere in scripture. If a person gives 10% let it be by choice. If a person can only give below that, or even above, let it be done according to their heart. God bless and Merry Christmas...

[@nomatusi7514]

@@stalstonestacy4316 You should give as much as you can. God loves a cheerful giver. If you tithe do it the right way. There are 3 types of tithe described in the Bible (1)...Abraham tithed once in his life time. He gave the spoils of the war not his properties. If you ever win a war give the spoils of the war. (2)...The Pharisees tithed mint, dill and cumin (3)...The Priests (Levites) did not have inheritance. They did not own the land. The other 11 tribes of Israel were to give them tithe. Pick one and do it rightly. Remember if you pick # 3 you have to obey the other 613 laws.

[@dogguy8603]

This reminds me of a story "a priest a minister and a rabbi are all talking and having a drink, and the priest says, 'in our church we draw a circle and throw our money into the air and whatever lands inside thw circle we gove to god' the minister chimes in saying 'we do something like that but the money that falls outside the circle we give to god' they ask what the rabbi does and the rabbi says 'oh waht we do, is we throw our money in that air and whatever god dosen't want he lets fall back to earth'"

[@MrKage95]

I much prefer "giving" over "tithing". Tithe is obligatory, and tends to reinforce 10%. But giving beyond 10% is encouraged and praised. Give generously!

[@awaiting_YHWH_return]

So why not give all you money

[@cheerfulmouse]

Even when paying down debt?!

[@thrufaithalone]

There was more than one tithe, all *only* for the Jews that made their living off the land. It never applied to Christians. It was always food. Listen to George W. Greene's videos. The tithe was only for the Jews. There is not a single instruction for Christians to tithe in the NT. It's for the Jewish people's religious system - when they had the temple. Even Jews don't tithe since it was destroyed. There is no storehouse. There are no priests.

[@universallove878]

Make sure you research the church and learn how the administration of it operates. Too many people give just for giving sake. Also is the church involved in its members lives when problems arise? Or you have to make appointments with pastoral staff only? Social Justice issues? Community causes? It makes a difference. I'm not giving for a jet, when Jon and Sarah cant make rent.

[@inacook2285]

Love you for this Dave...This message came at the right time...

[@ALXSSA]

Honestly, I think you should ask yourself if you should tithe and no one else. That is a personal, spiritual question honestly.

[@AaronHernandez-xv4qh]

ALXSSA yes!! I dislike when people try to push their beliefs on to others.

[@O-N-U-G]

ALXSSA Good call. I totally agree with you.

[@joshlunsford266]

Sounds like a crafty excuse for not listening to what the Bible clearly commands.....

[@AaronHernandez-xv4qh]

JoshLunsford yeah but not everyone listens to the Bible..not necessarily speaking about herself.

[@joshlunsford266]

Aaron Hernandez But Dave Ramsey does, and that’s who’s video it is, and there should be no question or objection to him simply stating what he believes.... in his video.... on his channel.....

[@darkstriker00]

I notice that when I tithe even when I have a lot of bills to pay off I always end up with more money, hmmmmm.

[@mimim7026]

sounds like b.s. to me! hmmmmm

[@darkstriker00]

@@mimim7026 sounds like you don't know that tithes are tax deductible, hmmmm

[@pauljackson1456]

Makes no sense

[@SilvioManfredDante85]

I can attest to that!

[@matthewgruter2937]

Sounds spooky!

[@jamesbyerly766]

The tithe doesnt need to be to the rich church. Just give. You call it.

[@zachpalmero1356]

By definition of tithe it actually does.

[@yeppers7225]

Most churches are not “rich”

[@shereenhenry6474]

He says to bring the tithe to His house.....His house is the church

[@thomaseidson6374]

The Bible specifically says to bring the tithe to the house of the Lord which is by definition your local church.

[@zachpalmero1356]

@@thomaseidson6374 I mean one would argue that the church is the Catholic Church but I really don't want a troubles era of conflict for this comment.

[@xensan76]

If you must tithe, give it to a church in need. There are thousands of small churches closing due to the lack of money. These ones are likely ministering to those most in need. Don't just donate to the nearest available one.

[@nicholasalonzo3499]

Give it to the one you go to. Just cause a church is closing doesn't mean God wills for it to not close.

[@libertarian4323]

If I do that, how is Pastor Duplantis going to pay for his new jet? $54,000,000.00 doesn't grow on trees!

[@nicholasalonzo3499]

@@libertarian4323 ooooo bummer I guess nobody told you your not supposed to go to prosperity gospel churches. Well I guess now you know. 👍👍

[@India-rd6wi]

Keep your money and pay your debts. It's that simple.

[@brokelembe8402]

Our pastor has one of the nicest cars in town. Benz S-class. gets swapped out every 3 years for the new model.

[@pepehands8224]

LOL

[@mimim7026]

Why do you still go to that church? Are you into "prosperity gospel" or what?

[@mimim7026]

@Owl_Lover Pastor and Swindler. But I repeat myself...

[@aubreyhayes583]

Sounds like it’s probably 3 year leases

[@SA007BARR]

So what? Maybe somebody in the church buys it for him as a gift. Not really up to you to judge the motives here. If you don’t like it, don’t go to that church

[@stacylewis4894]

I need to watch this clip every day to keep myself on the right path. I pull down a decent income doing finance/computer stuff in a good cause but I also do painting demos on weekends. They don't pay me that much but I really enjoy hearing back from mothers saying "after my boy met you he painted all week!" These aren't children or people flirting with art, these are serious students with discipline who are focused on bringing beauty into other people's lives. I remember one 7- or 8- year-old who was positively grilling me on my technique and finally whipped out a pad and started taking notes - if that doesn't humble you I don't know what will! I operate in a different context/paradigm than Dave but I can completely relate to his transfer of passionate illumination.

[@y2ksierra]

No taxes and people give you their pay check? Can't seem to figure out why there are so many churches...

[@freshtake6984]

Dave Ramsey is a religious shill pretending to help people when he’s actually costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars over their lifetime by advocating voluntary payments to religious institutions.

[@LanAnhWellness]

Thanks Dave for your thoughts on tithing. Though our family is not at a 10% goal for tithing yet, we found that tithing has helped us budget better and pay off debts faster. There are times when it feels really tight, but I trust in our Heavenly Father and we'll try to give more to support those in need.

[@hellenmwelwa8263]

Sweetheart can I chat with you secretly?

[@EveryTongue]

Blessing to Dave and the whole crew!

[@simplywine00]

I don’t Tithe, but I do donate to private charity and other little things, donate blood and plan on giving my time. I have noticed that when I make donations, my life gets better, abundance is attracted into my life. I don’t give in order to get, it’s just something that happens. I’m naturally a person that enjoys giving, I cannot stand receiving gifts (it may sound odd to most people but it’s true)

[@marlonecampbell1750]

Bible says give a portion according to your income

[@Phoenix-wy3qi]

Great response, thanks dave, really like your videos

[@jackdiddIey]

Don't tithe, GIVE. As Christians, we are to give cheerfully and not out of necessity. Give whatever amount you want, is you sow sparingly, you will reap sparingly, if you sow bountifully, you will reap bountifully

[@mollynavarro4101]

Dave! Loved this! Question, do I have to tithe to a church? Can I give to an organization instead? I recently moved to a new city and I haven’t found a church to go too, I’m wondering getting to a local charity , homeless shelter, or give to multiple charities are acceptable?

[@SteezoENT]

Tithe is very possibly even when climbing out of debt. If you tithe you will have a blessed 90% of your income opposed to cursed 100%. Also God Blessed me during my debt steps and Someone is paying all my student loans over 120k

[@raiden031]

My kids will each have 120k in debt if I sacrifice 529 contributions for tithing.

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏

[@thewatcher4552]

I don't think It's God will to build up debt anyway but regardless he is faithful

[@treyatl2006]

Tithing is definitely at odds with Ramsey Baby steps. Well atleast until you get to Baby step #7. I'm just saying.... He is very rigid in most areas. This is one area where he isn't consistent.

[@zacharybohlman4069]

treyatl2006 and if he was asked "should I give directly to a family member in baby steps" he'd likely say no. The core of his advice is sound but on some topics I have to disagree

[@jacobearnhart7610]

Dave has always said that if you can’t make it on 90% then you can’t make it on 100%. He’s always acknowledged that there is likely much more you can cut from your budget and tighten the belt down a notch to still give your tithe freely and still work the baby’s steps. He also tells you that the tithe is not a spiritual disqualifer, and Dave doesn’t dive into the debate of 10% gross or net pay, God wants us to give and give freely. So no the tithe is not at odds with the baby steps, if you’ve read his books,followed his teachings closely and listened intentionally you would see this quite clearly, to say otherwise would be calling his integrity into question, which I and many others find is above reproach

[@zacharybohlman4069]

jacob Earnhart well someone who is doing the baby steps can't make it at all that's the whole point. Someone who is in debt is basically paying interest to tithe. What sort of God wouldn't want His child to help themselves out of financial dispair? Seems a bit counter-intuitive to me. Dave is a good guy but he's no prophet. He's just a guy with a microphone.

[@stalstonestacy4316]

@@jacobearnhart7610 well said, sir!

[@leahstewart6979]

It looks as if he’s not consistent because this is a spiritual issue. It doesn’t always make sense to unbelievers. I joyfully tithed unemployment and NEVER ran out of money for over a year....and unemployment only lasted 4 months. I was faithful with a little and God showed up and made sure i never ran out.

[@melvinmcdougal6226]

I tithe and have been blessed with far greater than the meager 10% of my income. I don't think I could afford not to tithe.

[@isaiahmartinez2061]

That's exactly how I feel. God can do more with my 10 then I could do with the 100

[@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605]

One of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. You can sure try it if you enjoy giving.

[@thestarvingcartoonartist864]

The two mentioned are not the only ones who tithe. Baptists and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints also give tithing and fast offerings.

[@brendasgirl90]

Those come under the Christian category

[@jennifertackett2241]

I have debt. I also still donate to a few favorite causes/charities. I do not belong to, nor do I tithe to, any church. The causes I do donate to, I don't give 10%. Not yet, anyway, i can't afford to. I also donate my time, as well as goods and services. Between that and my cash donations, it probably comes out to more than 10%. Someday, when I am (comfortably) wealthy, I will give so much more. But until then, I have to take care of myself before I take care of anyone else.

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏

[@thrufaithalone]

@@christslove8121 Yeah, I used to give to CBN, too. Way too much. I was on disability. I could not tithe my way to prosperity or health. The health and wealth gospel is not of God.

[@LushawnzLifestyle]

You can also give of your time and or your talents to be a giver when tithing is not an option at that time.

[@nevets19681969]

LushawnzLifestyle Mosiah 2:17. And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.

[@CORT0619]

I believe that if giving of your time ONLY were sufficient then the bible would say to just give your time. Giving of your time would be in addition. But regardless that's between the person and God.

[@jesucripto369]

In these times we live, Time is Equivalent to Money... so give what you can... God Knows it all, no need to explain to any church members or seek any advice

[@kylercook7968]

LushawnzLifestyle So much twisting and leading astray of new believers and unbelievers. Be careful listening to people like this lady that don’t know the Bible. She will tell you what your itching ears want to hear.

[@LushawnzLifestyle]

@@kylercook7968 Reading is fundamental, comprehension is a must.

[@tonibarrett8809]

Speak The Word! 👏🏼 it’s in The Book

[@TWDxKILL3R]

You can tithe in a lot of ways...... don’t listen to these brick and mortar churches hat tell you that you HAVE to give 10% of your check to them.... you can give 10% to anything or anyone..... I quit going to my church because the preacher got obsessed with it and said it all has to go to them because we are members.......

[@nomatusi7514]

You should give as much as you can. God loves a cheerful giver. If you tithe do it the right way. There are 3 types of tithe described in the Bible (1)...Abraham tithed once in his life time. He gave the spoils of the war not his properties. If you ever win a war give the spoils of the war. (2)...The Pharisees tithed mint, dill and cumin (3)...The Priests (Levites) did not have inheritance. They did not own the land. The other 11 tribes of Israel were to give them tithe. Pick one and do it rightly. Remember if you pick # 3 you have to obey the other 613 laws.

[@jacoblatham7053]

The bible says to give your tithe to your local church "store house" so actually you do need to give your tithe to your church. God designed tithe to work like that. But you should tithe to a church that you trust. The church that I go to only a small percent of the church was paying their tithes and the pastor touched on it but its their jobs to guide you spiritually which your tithes are very well a spiritual representation of your obedience.

[@nomatusi7514]

@@jacoblatham7053 A Church is not a storehouse. A storehouse is a storehouse. You do not that cows, goat, crops to Church. Tithe was also enjoyed by the tithers in what was called festival tithe.

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏

[@diyswithangie7377]

The main thing if you're going to give grudgely don't give...if not from the heart.....keep it 😎

[@chopperinmylivingroom2335]

Good advice!

[@ryanweston9677]

Yes just keep it. It’s yours.

[@TJ-oo5mx]

@Ryan It's actually God's

[@ryanweston9677]

Thomas J.B. I’m really sorry you’ve been brainwashed and are being swindled out if your money. I used to be in the same boat

[@TJ-oo5mx]

@Ryan It's great to see you replied, and I'd love to have a conversation regarding tithing. I'm assuming you are a Christian that believes in the Bible: Would that be correct?

[@ultimaetsolder]

I give over 50 percent of my income via taxes. Sales tax, income tax, property tax, etc.

[@rb7454]

“Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar and to God what is God’s.” -Jesus ; that meant pay your taxes and your tithe. They are not the same thing.

[@obits3]

Roman Berezutskiy - the tithe was the Biblical tax base for Israel. I invite you to actually read your Bible and not just listen to the cliff-notes passed down from preacher to preacher.

[@brandoncadena08]

@@obits3 able gave the first fruits of his harvest to God. Abraham gave "a tenth of everything" to Melchizedek a priest of God. Tithing goes back a long thousands of years before Israel and the law. It is not and was not a baseline tax, it is an offering to God giving him thanks for what he has blessed you with.

[@obits3]

Brandon Cadena - Abraham and Jacob’s tithes were not the “reap and sow” tithes preached today. They gave 10% of the riches they gained as thanks to God (Abraham) and to keep his word to God (Jacob actually said he would tithe if God made him wealthy).

[@AmayzinOne]

Tom Forge Please quit compromising Tom. You are making it seem like a burden that God asks us to give 10% to Him. This is the God of the universe we are talking about. Showing faith by giving to God (also growing His church) should be what we desire, not what we complain about. Quit trying to convince yourself that you have no flaw in your argument.

[@LisiLisichan]

Thanks for explaining the word, didn't even know what that is.

[@theplatinumcaraudio]

I don't give to a church building anymore. I did for years but now I find people who need money and give it to them. I'm not looking for a tax break and I really don't keep up with how much I give. I know what 10% is for every month but there are some months I probably give more and some less. I dont keep up with a percentage but supply the need when it arises. Gove out of your heart and not "by the book." Remember it is about the heart. Learn to give money away without getting something back out of it (tax deduction). It doesn't even cross my mind anymore. If you learn how to be generous it's easy to do. Be a cheerful giver! Would I like to have a new truck? Sure but thst money can help someone else less fortunate.

[@JS-tr7oo]

this man is no different from Jim Bakker, and every other con out there. He makes his money off you. the church buildings promote his books and schools. get it?

[@JS-tr7oo]

@Miari Bishop But they won't until they learn the hard way like I did. Then when you try to tell them the truth they don't want to hear it. They will never tell you of all the people that tithed instead of paying doctor bills, tithed instead of paying their mortgage, etc and wound up homeless. They will never tell you that because they are rich. Get it? Read the entire book of Romans. I put my trust in Jesus Christ not a mosaic law that does not apply to me, never did. It only applied to the Priests. That was done away with in Jesus Christ. That is what the entire book of Romans is talking about. Bother to read it people. Instead of parroting how you think you got a high paying job because you tithed? Really? What did satan offer Jesus? Everything. satan blesses his own.

[@tl57345]

Everything we are, have and will receive comes from God. The tithe is meant to acknowledge this truth and also to inoculate us from our own greed.

[@ShadaeMastersAstrology]

tl57345 How are we giving to God when regular men are passing around the collection plates? Churches should be honest and just say that the money is for the upkeep of the church, not God.

[@steve41557]

True. But why work overtime if a good chunk goes to taxes and tithing?

[@tl57345]

Venus Unlocked, before we worry about tithing which is or response to Jesus’ finished work on the cross. The Father loved us so much that he sent his one and only Son to die for my sins and for the sins of all who would place their faith in him. If you haven’t accepted Jesus’ death as a complete and full payment for your sin, then please consider this first. Once you trust in Him you will see the tithe isn’t to earn His favor but simply a response to the most valuable gift creation has ever seen. Yes, myself and others who bear the name of Christ still sin. Please do not let the sins of man taint your perception of the perfection of Jesus.

[@kathycuddles1]

Sounds good, but it's not biblical.

[@JonathanGrandt]

False

[@rb7454]

Dave other people tithe too. Orthdox Christians and Catholic Christians tithe to。 it’s not just the evangelicals. We read the same bible and our “branch” of Christianity is 2,000 years old.

[@fireeye33]

Roman Berezutskiy nope catholic dont tithe....i came from catholic family

[@Dangerous_Nerd]

@@fireeye33 We Catholics do not bind ourselves to the Mosaic law. We are mandated to give, but the 10% rule is excluded in preference to loving choice.

[@fireeye33]

Michael Saunders yes bc Catholic teaching when it comes to giving offerings are based on the early church teaching. Back in those days there were no teaching about 10% tithe. The tithing idea came after prosperity theology is created as well as hypergrace theology...sadly all came from America.

[@Dangerous_Nerd]

@@pepehands8224 Hah; no.

[@cynthiaosby3356]

There's no such thing as a catholic Christian, it's either one or the other! Not both!

[@DrewDienno]

the 10% is a silly benchmark. scriptures indicate it’s anywhere from occasional 10% tithes to regularly tithing 20% or more. you’re asked to give to charitable causes if you’re able to, give sacrificial and generously, but jesus does not require tithing since the mosaic covenant expired after his resurrection.

[@dj_6ix20two6]

I’m don’t consider myself a Christian/catholic/ etc. I AM A CHRIST FOLLOWER. A child of the Most High. I ready the Bible, learn about Jesus, go to church, and try to imitate Jesus and his actions/love/forgiveness etc. Only He and you truly know your heart and intentions. I don’t believe the word of the Bible is meant to be taken literal in a lot of cases in reference to numbers and things of that nature. I believe it’s meant to be symbolic and taken with context. Not so much that if you make 100k a year you’re bound to give 10 thousand to the church. There are so many more ways to “tithe” than just with. God bless you all.

[@pepehands8224]

Stop complicating things and just tithe.

[@cameronsantiago3155]

@@pepehands8224 Why are you commenting on every comment. Seem to have a pretty stuck up opinion...

[@AkaRuby]

"'Will a man rob God? Yet you are robbing Me!' You ask: 'How do we rob You?' 'By not making the payments of the tenth and the contributions'" (Mal. 3:8)

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏

[@nickhill8612]

I have been thinking about leaving my church for over a year now and I do pray about it. The reason is our church is so unorganized especially when it comes to money. It seems like no one knows how much money the church really has and the pastor is very secret about it and that has caused people to go to other churches.

[@ChristCoin]

Requiring churchgoers to give 10 percent of their income is hypocritical for any leader who isn’t living like a Levite. You pour in the tithe, pull down the handle of faith, and out come God’s blessings. The truth is that we don’t buy God’s blessings. As New Covenant saints, we’re already blessed with every spiritual blessing (Ephesians 1: 3).

[@joshford7828]

How is the church run, the pastor paid, his family fed? Or do you believe he should work an 8-4 job, then preach 2 days a week and be at your beck and call 24-7 as advisor, prayer partner, counselor, marry and bury everyone? Dont hide behind the new covenant grace to neglect your Shepard claiming he must be a levite.

[@hzuiel]

@@joshford7828 There are lots of people who have done it, and continue to do it. Happily and gladly.

[@raiden031]

I could not imagine tithing 10% of my income. My financial situation would be exponentially more stressful.

[@markb7067]

The good news is you don't have to tithe at all. There's no such thing as a biblical monetary tithe. We are free to give as we are able and lead, but not bound to pay as many would have us believe.

[@Scorpiomaj27889]

Is it better for the church to have financially strong members paying big time later on or money in the bank now and more members struggling? If the church isn't in the red now, I'll get my own financial house in order first. What is tithing really at the end of the day? Paying the church's bills.

[@ericsloan858]

@@Scorpiomaj27889 If you don't give a dollar when you only have 10 dollars, you won't give a 1000 when you have 10000. If you are in a faithful church, they are preaching the gospel and doing missions, feeding the poor, helping those in need. That's what you're giving to

[@thrufaithalone]

The Bible doesn't tell Christians to tithe. It was for the Jews and their religious system. There were 3, perhaps 4 tithes, and they were always food and only those that made their living off the land tithed and the tithe was only on the increase. If someone had 10 cows and only one gave birth, they didn't owe anything. Listen to George W. Greene's videos. Read your Bible. The tithe is not for Christians. I tried tithing before I found out it doesn't apply to us. You cannot give your way out of debt. Jesus and his family did not tithe. I am so tired of Christians being taught the tithe lie.

[@jamesenslin8461]

Paul never instructed tithing to the churches.

[@JordanMadera]

$1000 a month?!?!?!?!?!? Nope :/

[@WJTutora]

The tithe is also a way we show God that we trust him as a source of our provision.

[@mimim7026]

presumably, god knows if you trust him, irrespective of tithing, because of that whole "all-knowing, all-seeing" thing...

[@famelitech]

Do drug lords and non-Christians tithe? and why are some rich than Christians?

[@redscorpion9325]

Witney Jiménez What is taxes,we’re already tithing without even knowing it

[@MayaDTV]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@sblijheid]

Tithing is not negotiable. Give the tithes, you'll ask yourself how your debt got paid so fast. I paid my bills first two months in a row and I didn't cut back on my usual expenses. It's like making money became near impossible and I kept adding another bill to my budget. Finally, I paid it and after that, making money became very easy. It was notable and hard to miss. Not tithing is a great way to mess up your finances. If you think it's okay not to bless the Lord with your increase, why do you think the Lord is obligated to protect your income? It's as if you walk past everyone when you have money, don't give anyone a dime or piece of bread to get by, but when you're broke, you want those same people to come and help you. It's not going to happen. I don't understand why daily starbucks drinkers question whether they should tithe or not.

[@libertarian4323]

"Not tithing is a great way to mess up your finances" I've never tithed and am a multimillionaire. Will we be ok since we are atheists? :} We do donate 40-50% of our income (most of our net worth increases come from capital gains at this point, not "income"} directly to good charities though. Mostly food banks,veterans charities, shelters for abused women and children, and animal shelters. We even donate to a couple of "church" run food banks because we know the money is going to buy food, not to enrich the pastor.

[@ambert5790]

I just recently paid off my debt with Western Dental and I'm telling you it has been a big weight off my shoulders

[@JonathanGrandt]

Don’t give to a church. Be the church and give to those who are in need.

[@hzuiel]

@Phillip Malone Tithing as you think of it is not either.

[@Helthurian]

Lol. Focus on your debt.

[@obits3]

Yes, any debt your currently owe should be paid first. As Jesus said, first make up with your brother and then give your gift to the church.

[@jesucripto369]

Agreed 100%

[@pepehands8224]

No.

[@helpme2helpu39]

I appreciate this 👍🙏

[@JCpNK]

I feel like a 10th of your Salary for someone who is in debt and therefore had no money and broke is lunacy.. I feel like you should give what you feel led to give in your heart.. You know what’s right and wrong before you ask it.. Also I stopped giving to church’s years ago because of all the corruption and lies.. You’re better off helping people that are struggling individually vs lining the pockets of a business who doesn’t even tithe themselves

[@nryanmusic]

Absolutely true

[@MarieRhondelle]

It just seems odd that Dave would tell a person in debt not to give money to family but tithing is fine. Dave usually is pretty rigid about not giving while in debt.

[@cristonureste9250]

Some people feel that God is more important than money. And some people also believe that God will provide for them all things.

[@hzuiel]

@@cristonureste9250 Well then some people are dumb.

[@thrufaithalone]

Jesus condemned the Jewish religious leaders doing that - Mark 7:9-13 "And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[a] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’[b] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)- then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

[@Noemitowers23]

I became a Christian 5 years ago after growing up Jehovah’s Witness (where they don’t tithe). I started at 5% because I was kind of scared of tithing but felt lead to do that. After just a couple weeks I felt very comfortable giving 10%. This was all my decisions and never felt pressured from anyone else or less loved by God if I didn’t. Now our family tithes 10% of everything we make and we have a giving fund on top of that. I feel that’s what makes us happiest because we are connected to our church and see that they’re using the money for good. So I guess all of that to say that it’s really all up to the individual and what they feel led to do.

[@OfficialYounginwell]

You left the truth? Noemi Guerrero

[@Noemitowers23]

Weldon C. No, I left the JW church. I actually found the truth after leaving that behind, it was the best decision of my life.

[@marcoramirez313]

Noemi Guerrero what do jw believe ??

[@jbcheck5517]

Amen, God Bless you Dave.

[@AnonymousUser_86]

My issue with tithing is that churches have now made this practice feel more like a Christian subscription fee, rather than a demonstration of faith in God. Also, it’s become less attractive to me to give to a church that has the appearance of being already wealthy. I personally would rather give to the needy directly than tithe to a “business”, because ultimately, that seems to be what modern churches evolved into.

[@pseudonymshqipe854]

I understand the significance and importance of helping others. One must help his or herself first though.

[@pants8029]

Tithing is a test of faith. So is paying off debt. Paying tithing helps me manage money more effectively and bless others. It's really that simple.

[@thrufaithalone]

George W. Greene videos. You need to read your Bible.

[@arthrodea]

soo... if they would go from $2000/month (to debt) to $1000/month. That means their tithe would be $1000/month. As a tenth of their income, they're bringing in 10,000 a month. So how about trimming back that budget a little more? Surely they could give $1000/month (if they wanted) and still come up with $2000 or MORE to put towards debt. Do they really need $8000 a month for expenses?

[@AmayzinOne]

People don’t give to God because they have to make room for their selfishness. This is ALWAYS the issue.

[@ErrorPagenotFound-ig1cy]

Okay, genius, where did the video mention that they make $10,000 a month? Stop assuming stuff, you’re making yourself look foolish.

[@arthrodea]

@@ErrorPagenotFound-ig1cy I did the math. Dave states in the beginning They are putting $2000 a month towards debt. If they tithe, it cuts that amount down by half. (so they are tithing $1,000/month, which is half of $2,000/month). A tithe is 10% of your income - so $1,000 is 10% of their pay. Therefore their pay is 1,000 x 10 = 10,000 dollars a month. Now some people do 10% of their take home pay, some do 10% of their gross income before taxes. But they are making somewhere in the ballpark of 10K a month. Unless they are giving a HUGE "tithe" which is much more than 10%.

[@jennifertackett2241]

So right now, they are putting only 20% towards debt? Where is their money going?

[@jamesenslin8461]

Tithing was a forced law for Isreal,Grace is an unforced, cheerful giving what you want to give.

[@ryano4684]

You could volunteer your time to make up for not tithing.

[@whz4life]

Gods not real

[@urbanfabchic]

Ryan O .....No

[@pepehands8224]

no. pay up your 10%.

[@brokelembe8402]

How about tithe AND volunteer?

[@ryano4684]

Seems like a lot of judgey Christians on here

[@jessecarden735]

6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him. 7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. (Galatians 6:6, NASB)

[@midlight9758]

Giving is an act of worship between you and God. And it can be in many forms - giving of your time, your talent, your treasure (money). And this can be to the church you call home, to your community, to orphans, to widows, to the poor - the options are nearly limitless there. “I give my tithe” sounds so much like an obligation, Jesus wants to us to give joyfully from our hearts whatever the percentage.

[@indigochild4664]

Tithing frees me up to do work I have to do! When I don’t tithe I find I waste time more, and money disappears, tithing helps me be a better version of myself, and shows God I put him first!

[@christslove8121]

I'm not sure if you do but if you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. Just a suggestion. 🤗🙏

[@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605]

One of my pastors preaches a similar story only it's about his blessings from tithing to Voice Of The Martyrs Ministry. He believes him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to that ministry. And someone gave them a big beautiful house when they started tithing to it.

[@vanvan-yw7iw]

Same here 👍

[@nancypritchard7575]

I give nearly 10 percent now, but I don't TITHE to an individual church. I give where I feel there is most need at the time. While I was on BBS2, the percentage varied. It was whatever I could do at the time. I feel that God still blessed my efforts!

[@christslove8121]

If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏

[@christslove8121]

And one of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. He believes him and his family are prosperous and healthy because they tithe to that ministry.

[@millsathn]

Answer is no. Also after you finish paying off debt.

[@mrspalms4503]

Don’t forget who gives you the strength to get money so you could pay off all that debt. Deuteronomy 8:18 ❤️🙏

[@jamesenslin8461]

Prosperity teaching is greedy and not the Gospel.

[@darthyetgon]

? What are your thoughts on tithing to an organization charity nonprofit that you volunteer for and also work for I feel that in doing so I would be getting money back that I would be tithing that said organization any help in this matter would be most appreciative

[@friarrodneyburnap4336]

Tent making" Acts 18:1-3 -This is the only place in the Scriptures that mentions Paul working on tents. From this passage is built the doctrine that Paul’s full time occupation was tent making. It says that he was of that craft, which probably refers to the craft he had learned as a youth. Peter, for example, grew up in the fishing trade; and while one cannot say that Peter never caught another fish from the beginning of Acts to the day of his death, yet certainly it was not his full time occupation. Note that Paul was in Corinth when it mentions him working on tents with Aquila and Priscilla. We know that Paul was not supported solely by this, however, because of what he wrote later to the brothers in Corinth: II Cor. 11:9- The Macedonian brothers, who were in “deep poverty” (II Cor. 8:1,2) supplied Paul with his needs while he preached at Corinth. Thus whatever work of the hands Paul was doing, he wasn’t making enough to get by in Corinth, because other brothers were supplying his needs while he was there. We also have sent supplies to brethren in other places (in Mexico, for example.) Brothers and sisters have gotten together food, clothing, shoes, bicycles, and other needs and have carried it down to the souls there. But we have not needed to “labour for the meat which perisheth” (John 6:27) to be able to do this. The five above passages (Acts 18:13, Acts 20:34-35, 1 Cor. 4:12, Eph. 4:28, 1 Thes. 4:11-12) constitute an exhaustive list of all New Testament verses that specifically speak of Christians working with their hands (in contrast to the over 140 verses that speak of the spiritual labors we are supposed to do.) Note that none of them exhorts us to work for money, nor does any of them say anything about having a steady job. 2 Thes. 3:7-12 - Some use this passage to say the Paul was supporting himself with tent making while he was at Thessalonika as well. However, it is recorded that it was the Philippian brothers who supplied Paul’s necessities while he was at Thessalonika. Phil. 4:15, 16 - Paul wasn’t making enough to get by in Thessalonika, either. Thus there is no passsage to support the notion that Paul had a full time tent making career. His full time work was preaching. He spent two years in Ephesus, for example, daily teaching the Word (Acts 19:9,10). This is not to say that he never made a tent - we make our own tents, too - but more so we wish to point out that this cannot be used to support the idea that we’re supposed to get a steady job and labor for the meat which perishes. 2Thes. 3:7-12 Verse 8 cannot be speaking of only physical work. Can we believe all Paul did day and night was labour for the meat that perishes? Is that how to be a good example? Did he never witness, or pray, or search the Scriptures, or serve the saints? (All of these things are, according to the Scriptures, work.) However, because of verse9 we see it cannot be speaking only of spiritual work, either, since he says, “Not because we have not power....” (Paul refers in 1 Cor. 9:6-14 to the power he had as an apostle to not be involved with the physical labors.) So the work being spoken of here to the Thessalonians must be referring to both physical and spiritual: Paul and those with him preached, and went over the Scriptures with souls, and did as well whatever physical service was necessary to help the church continue. It helps to bear in mind that true Christian life was (and still is) communal. It was never meant to be this form we see today of people who see each other a few times a week or so (or less) then go and do their own thing the rest of the time. The body of Mashiyach in the N.T. was together - they lived together, worked together, etc. (Acts 2:44 and Acts4:32) All have to pitch in for this kind of situation to function. Luke 10:2,7 -Here is a labor that, if we do as good disciples, we’re worthy of our food and drink (related to the previous passage that says, “If any would not work, neither should he eat.” Consider in that light 1 Timothy 5:17,18 as well. 1Cor. 9:13, 14 - The priests under the law of Moses that offered sacrifice received a portion of the things they offered up (see, for example, Lev. 7:7-10, 31-34.) In the same way, in the New Testament, according to what Paul writes, those who preach the Gospel are sustained through that work - they are worthy of their hire. 2 Thes. 3:7-12 - Some use this passage to say the Paul was supporting himself with tent making while he was at Thessalonika as well. However, it is recorded that it was the Philippian brothers who supplied Paul’s necessities while he was at Thessalonika. Phil. 4:15, 16 - Paul wasn’t making enough to get by in Thessalonika, either. Thus there is no passsage to support the notion that Paul had a full time tent making career. His full time work was preaching. He spent two years in Ephesus, for example, daily teaching the Word (Acts 19:9,10). This is not to say that he never made a tent - we make our own tents, too - but more so we wish to point out that this cannot be used to support the idea that we’re supposed to get a steady job and labor for the meat which perishes.

[@duckpwnd]

Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute.

[@1enoch194]

Don't do it if you have debt. Take care of your family first. He is a loving God and understands you need to get yourself in a position to give first.

[@charlies.5777]

I used to tithe, until I was driving down the road in my hooptie and saw my priest blow-by in his NEW Lamborghini!! THAT did It for me!!😀

[@kylercook7968]

Sounds like you should have gone to a church with a genuine pastor, not given up doing what God has asked, but...idk?

[@mycrazyfamilyid]

"Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." Malachi 3:8-10

[@shanaythornton4718]

🙌🙌

[@theplatinumcaraudio]

That was to the corrupt priesthood. They were literally stealing the tithes and selling them.

[@billymiles8220]

Hello. MycrazyFamily, Have you ever read the entire book of Malachi? Check out the book , Malachi is talking to the Priests . No to a congregation . Plus there were no Christians back. Tithing is not for Christians.

[@niks8521]

Malachi 3:10 says that we WILL receive "food in our storehouses" if we pay our tithes. God says to TRY ME NOW. He will literally open up the windows of Heaven and pour out blessings. So it is not only essential to being materially or financially blessed, but most importantly spiritually blessed!

[@leeroyexcavator9149]

I have heard some preachers but very few of them say dont tithe until u are debt free because that is stealing from the lender. Also tithing was old testament and some of it was a one time thing. I give when I can.

[@robertlandau6429]

Doesn't get much clearer than this.......... "Give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”

[@markb7067]

I love Dave and the many good things he and his organization do for others. I just happen to disagree with his assessment of tithing for the following reasons (and several others). 1. There's no such thing as a biblical monetary tithe. Abrahams "tithe" was a one-time event, off spoils of war, involved an exchange (he received wine and food) and involved none of his personal wealth. Tithing under Mosaic law was strictly limited to items of the land - produce and livestock. Again, no money. 2. The indictments in Malachi were directed at the Levitical Priesthood, not all of Israel and have no bearing on us today, and none of it had to do with money. 3. There is nothing in the bible that promises a blessing for giving money to a church (or otherwise) or a curse for not doing so. Giving is a different matter but tithing can't be considered an act of faith or giving as it was a compulsory ordinance under Mosaic law and likely a pagan custom in the case of Abraham. I do agree with Dave that we should improve our personal balance sheets to the point where we can make a meaningful difference through giving according to our convictions. Fulfillment is what happens when good goes through you and usually happiness is thrown in with the deal.

[@Clicked_SnoopyFr]

You my friend , have a heart problem not a tithing problem.

[@mbaguy627]

Bless you Mark for sharing this. You made it very plain based on facts.

[@friarrodneyburnap4336]

"Money/ Tithing and Mammon" Often when we confront people with the fact that they are serving mammon, they reply, “We have to pay the bills.” That’s when we see what it means not to take thought, or ask, “What shall we eat?” If working a job to pay the bills is living by faith, then all the world is living by faith - that’s exactly how the“nations of the world” (Luke 12:29-31) get their needs met. They serve mammon. They work their jobs, get their pay, and buy their needs “For after all these things do the Gentiles seek.” (Matt. 6:31-32). If an unbeliever works for a bank, isn’t he serving mammon? If he isn’t, then what does the phrase “serving Mammon” mean? And if he is serving mammon, then isn’t his co-worker who professes to be a Christian serving mammon as well? Another statement that is often made concerns passages in the New Testament that refer to believing masters and servants (e.g., Eph. 6:5-9.) Some say that this applies to an employer-employee relationship. Upon reading it, however, we find it is speaking about masters and servants, not business associates. We know the will of Elohiym was that the servants should be made free, for Paul himself wrote that if a servant was able to obtain freedom, then he should do so (1Cor. 7:21.) Indeed, he emphasized this point by saying, “Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.” (1 Cor. 7:23) Evidently at that time some circumstances were such that it was not always possible for a servant to be made free; but such is of course not the case now. Obtaining freedom from an employer is accomplished simply by quitting. In fact, some take the liberty to do this as soon as they find a higher paying job. Matt. 11:28-30 - There is a rest available for those who are weary of laboring for the meat that perishes. Let us get away from being yoked together with unbelievers (2 Cor. 6:14-18), and take His yoke upon us - do His work. Very few who profess to know Yeshua are willing to take His yoke upon them. They have no interest in submitting to Adonai, nor to those who have the rule over us (“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Heb. 13:17) They do, however, obey diligently the voice of their employers; and this is neither out of love nor respect for them, but to receive the paycheck (money). “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” (1 Tim. 6:10) Multitudes every day are submitting themselves, compromising their convictions and bowing down (in a sense) to cater to the whims of their bosses and patrons. By obeying Yeshua’s Word and taking His yoke upon us, we receive a blessed rest for our souls. Working for this anti-Christ society is not a blessing; it’s actually a judgment: Habakkuk 2:13- Note this is “of Yahveh”; it’s a judgment sent from Him. What could be more vain than laboring for the meat which perishes to keep living in order to continue laboring for the meat which perishes? So many people are spending their lives in an effort to keep their lives going. But the promise to those who seek first His kingdom and righteousness is that what they need will be added unto them - not lots of riches, but enough food and raiment to get by so we can keep on seeking Him first. Ecclesiastes 2:26 - Elohiym gives this judgment to sinners. If they reject His yoke, they get this one: hard labor. A thirty year mortgage, for example is basically a sentence. Be it noted that in the days before the flood the world was making provisions for the flesh while Noah was preaching and working out his salvation. (2 Pet 2:5; see also Luke 17:26-29: “...they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded.”) Many do not choose to do Elohiym’s work because they are system-addicts. The system is their god, and thus it would be unthinkable for them to look to anyone but the system for their needs. Man cannot always help us, however. Consider all the money that has been appropriated for AIDS: how many people do you know that have been healed by that means? Consider as well the flood of ‘93: all the Corps. Of engineers and money sent from Washington couldn’t stop it. This has long been a device of man: throw money at problems as a solution. The Scriptures make it known to us that conforming and being unwilling to stand out and stand up is a manifestation of not having the Spirit (see Acts 1:8). The exhortation to Christians is not to seek to be a friend of the world (James 4:4). Rather, the means by which we are able to be called Elohiym’s peculiar people is by obtaining the grace to be zealous of good works, unspotted by their ways (see Titus 2:11-14 and James 1:27). We can testify of the truth of His promises. We hold no jobs, own what we can carry, and make with our own hands what we need (or trade for it, or find it, etc.) We have no permanent address, solicit no funds, take zero government money, and have no one supporting us by working for the world. Yet we always have what we need; Elohiym provides for us in all sorts of ways plus heals all our sicknesses. Let us remember that the Scripture warns about serving the creature more than the Creator (Romans 1:25.) Many are worshiping the god of self, catering to the lusts of their flesh. Brother John wrote that we should keep ourselves from idols (1John 5:21.) Yeshua asked, “Lovest thou Me more than these?” (John 21:15) This is the key. A greater love for Adonai would surely help many to start to serve Him, rather than just honoring Him with their lips. There is need of the fire of the Holy Ghost in the lives of many, that they might be His witnesses (see Acts 1:8: “And ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me....”) Fire has a nature of releasing energy. Of course this energy from the Spirit is to be for His service, not for us to serve ourselves and prosper in our will. It is obvious that society, or the world as the Scriptures call it, is in a very horrible state. Some are aware of this, and yet are not willing to take a stand against it as Yeshua did and taught. They just float downstream compromising with the system in order to get by. The Scriptures call us out of all that, exhorting us to be separate from sin and have no part in it: “Come out of her, My people.” (Rev. 18:4) Those who are willing to go out of the camp, bearing His reproach (Heb. 13:13) will find that there’s really not much else worth doing besides His work. "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall Make you free.” - John 8:32, Yeshua (Jesus)

[@AliceObscura]

Dave's discussion with Ben Shapiro on this topic expounds on it greatly and is one of the greatest discussions I've ever seen on the topic. Check it out!

[@eb7614]

Would that be base on one month earnings or bi weekly?

[@markb7067]

There's no such thing as a biblical tithe from earned wages. Neither God nor Jesus ever asked anyone for their money. We are free to give as we're able and lead.

[@billboyd2009]

Why does a church need an income from its parishoners? If God wants them to have money, He does not need the puny assistance of mere humans!

[@xavierhicks9008]

This has been a big topic of conversation in our home. We currently tithes 10% every month. We have 1 child and 1 on the way. We dont eat out or go on vacations. Our current child is in daycare that cost $800 a month. After expenses we have about $600 left at the end of the month. When our new child gets here we will have -$200 after daycare so it's like do we pull that money from tithe???

[@obits3]

“Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” 1 Timothy 5:8. Take care of your family first. How can you take care of the family of God (the church) if you can’t even take care of your own family? Tithing 10% of gross income is never demanded in the Bible. Only land farmers owed such a tax. Everyone else paid less or nothing at all. Give what you can, but take care of your family first.

[@trippin9298]

Anyone who doesn't provide for their relatives, especially their own family, has denied their faith and is worse than a non believer. ~1 Timothy 5:8 Under that premise, I'd see if there's some other area that you can cut out to balance the budget but if not, scripture clearly states to put your family first.

[@ultimaetsolder]

Yep. Your whole family should suffer so the church can get that extra $1000 a month. Or work some extra shifts so you can spend even less time with your family. Someone in the church needs a new Mercedes or something. Your TAX DOLLARS already provide homeless shelter services. Church is already tax exempt. But keep that money coming!

[@rebal1681]

There are more wasy to give than simply giving money. How about tithing ten percent of your time?

[@JS-tr7oo]

dave ramsey needs your money LOL

[@X.00896]

The word 'tithe' actually comes from Old English, not Hebrew. In Hebrew, it's מעשר (ma'asar).

[@jonsatko430]

When he said, "the word tithe in Hebrew," he was referring to the Hebrew word that translates as tithe. I hear speakers phrase it like that often.

[@nickywal]

Yeah got to make sure you pay off your megachurch's pastor newest luxury car, its utterly vital. How else will you put all the blame on god when things go wrong or thank him for everything when it happens. What do you mean this entire programme is about self-reliance

[@michaeldaileycartermusic]

Love this from Dave! I think too, much of the Christian life is about faith and dependence on God. Tithing(even when we aren't at a good financial place) is a step of faith and trust in the Father, knowing that He promises to meet all of your needs. I could tell you countless stories in my own life where I gave even when I've been in bad financial situations, and the Father ALWAYS comes through!! Every time I've had a major need, somehow the Lord would provide for me. We can't out give Him! It's scary to tithe when we aren't at a good spot financially, but He will provide for you!! Some of the most intimate moments I've had with the Lord were times I've been in rough financial seasons, and chosen to give anyways, and Him somehow providing(Someone would feel led to give money to me, I would get a raise at work, etc.) He is such a good Father!!!!!