Should I Take NVIDIA Back? Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti Review

[@CHEFPKR]

Can't wait to not be able to find this either.

[@GoldstarVFX]

CHEFPK whacha doin here? go make some food wars food irl, i need some recipes :)

[@Xfade81]

Luckily this has never been said before.

[@CHEFPKR]

@@GoldstarVFX I need a new card for all of the Ecchi goodness

[@Matthew_S_1985]

Same

[@renatomandellidemello6589]

you are everywhere!!

[@JarrodsTech]

Ah yes, the 3090 Max-Q

[@SoMega1]

Yes jarrod

[@fireared9244]

Haha

[@myboah4764]

Hi verified

[@suchirghuwalewala]

Why the Max Q tho ?

[@ChocolatePaint]

wow you were here FAST 😂

[@Citrussek]

"At significantly lower price!" Nvidia: Yeah... about that...

[@conturnplayscounturn6911]

can't wait to spend 2000$ for a gpu!

[@fireared9244]

@@conturnplayscounturn6911 can't wait to buy the 3060 for 3k

[@Homiesexual69]

Well that was a lie...

[@geraldbal7945]

oof

[@repkins]

@@conturnplayscounturn6911 To play small indie games and watching movies.

[@jacobthecreator1551]

"At a much lower price" Retails for $1199

[@cecrambler]

but it is... assuming a 3090 MSRP is close to $1500 this is 80% of of the price for nearly identical performance. --- - compared to the 3080 it's a much higher price.... .. .. I think not enough people are comparing it to both cards.

[@maccy2601993]

@@cecrambler You compare it to the 3080, not the 3090, which makes it utter shit value.

[@moist_ointment]

@@maccy2601993 why compare it to the 3080? 3080's are going for about $2K rn. These are going for $2200, and 3090s are going for close to $3K. If you can get one of these at $1200, it's a better deal than any 3080 because there are no $700 3080s

[@moist_ointment]

@@maccy2601993 yeah, the 380ti isn't worth that little. Market dictates value, and the market has spoken. These cards are worth over $2000 given current supply and demand.

[@xmun0360]

I wish. That's cheaper than what 3060's are going for here in Australia.

[@nosranro]

for 70% more money, you get 10% performance increase.

[@O8532732]

Money is irrelevant when it’s only hypothetical that a product is on the market. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@pickleman5609]

3090-3080=10

[@BradJohannsen]

True. But it's also 20% less cost for roughly the same performance as a 3090.

[@joemarais7683]

@@BradJohannsen if only the 3090 didn't have the worst price to performance and only exists for rich streamers.

[@johndrewiv3999]

@@BradJohannsen damned if you do buy and damned if you dont

[@QuiteLunacy]

"This is Nvidia's apology or No brainer buy even at $1200" Bro what? Amping up this card before you knew the actual price of it and STILL posting it even with the small update mid video? Not too sure about this one, Linus.

[@bk_Syndicate_FL850KH]

You don’t get it, hype the 3080ti and actually buy the 3080 if everyone one wants latest and greatest you can sneak in and get what you actually want

[@dextherion1]

And $2000 to 2500 for aib

[@nipa5961]

Very disappointing, both from Linus and Nvidia.

[@nipa5961]

@@Ren33469 I tend to disagree. Linus usually calls out bad products or business practices by any company. E.g. he rightfully dumped Nvidia for their mining cards announcement earlier this year or when they blacklisted harbor unboxed. This "review" here is really terrible though.

[@no-trick-pony]

classic Linus, what can you say.

[@pogtuber5146]

This is a very strange conclusion compared to everyone else's conclusion, which is... this is a waste of money for the performance gain. edit: To be clear I don't think Linus is a shill, I think he's coming at this from a different perspective, it's just strange to see him go from criticizing nVidia cash grabs with the crypto cards and then ignoring that in this analysis.

[@21preend42]

In comparison with a 3090 it is a bargain. Also if you were to sell the card you will probably double your money.

[@bgtubber]

​@@21preend42 Yea, the key words here are "in comparison". Because none of these 2 cards make any sense for gaming when 3080 costs half the money and is practically just as fast.

[@comradesandwich9437]

@@21preend42 and contribute to the market of outrageously priced GPU’s, great idea.

[@NathansAirsoftAnd3D]

shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?

[@pogtuber5146]

@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D that's fine, but the video was released after the MSRP reveal.

[@primalfear83]

Ah.... the tone difference, compared with Gamers Nexus is almost amusing to contrast the 2 reviews :p

[@austinbrown6923]

came here for this comment

[@w04h]

He didn't know the price... but yeah it's Linus. He's the kind of guy to recommend 3090 to play minecraft

[@AlanyxCross]

@@w04h its coming down to their viewpoints, one is 3080 vs 3080 ti, other is 3080 ti vs 3090. Just different sides from the same coin. Both reviews are great depending on your needs. This is great vs the 3090, absolute trash vs the 3080. I don't think price would have changed Linus's views here

[@cheesefries7436]

@@w04h Then they shouldn't have published this video knowing full well they were missing a big part of the puzzle.

[@matthewwebb7921]

Yea I agree, after seeing gamersnexus......I can't help but feel skeptical.....its almost like they are complete polar opposites!

[@DoctorX17]

I have to agree with GN... The ~10% higher performance for 70% higher MSRP is insane. So unless you can get one around the price of a 3080... Nuts

[@illiji915]

top end cards are always less performance per $ of cost. Stop comparing the performance per dollar with the lesser cards. this is a 3090 for gamers that don't need the 24gb of video memory which means paying less for almost the same gaming performance as the 3090

[@MushfiqueBinHossain]

@@illiji915 but this will be an expensive paperweight in 2 years, when they release a 300$ card that's much better than this :\ unless u have the money to buy high-end on release every release cycle. And i mean you have that much disposable income on the regular, buying high end cards is a total and uttter waste of money, definitely not a "no-brainer".

[@MR-vg7yn]

I'm sorry, but that's just a foregone conclusion and adds absolutely no information whatsoever. _Every_ high end product ever in the hardware market has been this way. Yes, it's true that the price-performance-ratio is terrible... but if "bang for your buck" is what you're interested in, you're looking at the wrong hardware tier anyway.

[@f-22raptor25]

@@illiji915 more like a little more than a year. Rtx 4000 will probably come out Aug 2022

[@illiji915]

@@f-22raptor25 either way, the current market price for the 3080 isn't $700, it's $900+. So ya, if the Ti launched at the same time, maybe it's priced poorly but right now? I think it's pretty spot on

[@MusicForHourss]

I am the only one that still thinks paying more then 500 dollars on a graphics card is insane?

[@RobGogs]

@muhammad amir just be sure to mine on it to make it even cheaper

[@Lightn0x]

Depends on your income. For some people, 500 usd is really not a lot.

[@eagle7015]

Not alone

[@fluid318]

I just want a beast pc for 1500 but the scalpers are bullying me

[@pootinplays]

mine is around $600 but I feel that same, these prices are laughable.

[@eemanemm]

"Is this video an out of season April's fool joke?"

[@TekMerc]

GNSteve: Waste of money Linus: It's a winner! Hrmm, who to believe.

[@GHZZZ1]

Steve

[@ventusluca]

Yeah I also just watched both shortly after each other, that was weird.

[@ElZamo92]

Steve is WAY more reliable. Linus is pure show and is mostly disconnected from reality.

[@brutalwang4106]

You need to ask who to believe?

[@phantomax]

gamers nexus all the way when it comes to anything regarding consumerism and buy recommendations

[@amandasantini6265]

All other major reviewers' thumbnails/titles: "Try Harder, NVIDIA" ; "A Card Nobody asked for" ; "Waste of Money, robbed blind". Linus' title: lol

[@coralinealgae]

6:59 Linus made a decent point that nvidia should be able to manufacture many more of these than the 3090 simply due to the 50% cut in vRAM. If their goal is higher production, that would help a bit to deal with the crippling shortages.

[@amandasantini6265]

@@coralinealgae This card is still useless. It costs 71% more than the 3080 (sometimes it's 100% more, mind you) but only has 2-10% in performance gains in gaming. And in 3D applications (my professional area) it's also useless *exactly because of the 50% less VRAM than the 3090%*.

[@Marshy2020]

Linus was focusing on comparing it with the 3090, which is already terrible value, and as if the 3080 didn't exist.

[@dragonking2849]

​@@coralinealgae And as he said, that is assuming there are enough GPU chips to go around. Now nvidia is also manufacturing the new CMP series and they are not going to reduce the production of any of the 3000 series already in production probably. And 1G vram chips are much more easy to acquire. Its just 2GB more vRAM than a 3080. The 3080Ti is not a performance slouch, its great, but at what cost?? And as Linus pointed out so few people bought the 2080Ti, and the 3080Ti is again for the few people who has enough disposable income to spend.

[@m1l3s27]

He really do be sucking up to Jenson more recently lmao.

[@darthku1408]

10% uplift + 2gb of vram = 70% uplift in price above the 3080 non Ti. Yah' that makes sense sounds like a good deal. WTF Linus?

[@NathansAirsoftAnd3D]

shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?

[@darthku1408]

@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D No, he compared it the 3090 which is true it is a better deal, but he did not mention how it's $500(US) more than the 3080 for 10% uplift in performance. That's a 70% price hike for 10% performance.That is a shit deal. He frowned on the price no price to performance.

[@darthku1408]

@WolfsBane It's called sarcasm. It's a shit deal.

[@zelkuta]

@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D Making a review for the card before the price is revealed is fucking stupid. Linus and corp shat the bed on this review. The card is a horrible value.

[@Rumi_117]

"This video was shot before Nvidia revealed the msrp" Yeah....oof.

[@bobnope457]

1200 USD. What a bargain!

[@cynic256]

why do they film videos when they don't have all the info

[@cagasbura420]

@@bobnope457 add a zero and you get the price that you will actually pay lol (cries inside)

[@andrewt.5567]

@@cynic256 The price itself does not change the performance of the card. That is really what the review should be about. It is up to the customer to decide if the price is worth it or not.

[@theSafetyCar]

Even at $1000 this isn't worth it. The 6900xt is better and that card STILL isn't worth it. Nvidia are using this to literally make less 3080s.

[@NegTharayas16]

Linus: "this card is Nvidia's apology" Everyone else: "Linus needs to apologize for this crap"

[@frozenskeptic345]

Yea idk what tf this video is. Go watch gamers Nexus at least he doesn't lie to our faces for $

[@ahmed9982]

@@frozenskeptic345 yeah like wtf lmg

[@ruby_gleyzes]

100%

[@TheCyanHawk.]

@@frozenskeptic345 lol what extra money would he get for lying?

[@helicopterharry5101]

Kind of crappy to give a positive review before the price is even announced. Price vs product should be the focus of a review, not an insert linus emoji here after the price has been announced like it's a minor point. True, this is a product for people who don't care about price, but we knew what to expect from the hardware. So if price doesn't matter, why does this review matter? The subtext seems to be "nvidia has you over a barrel, so you might as well try to enjoy it".

[@cynic256]

HOW ARE YOU RECOMMENDING A 7% GPU INCREASE FOR A 70% PRICE INCREASE?

[@hueyrosayaga]

Don't get me wrong, the GPU was SUPPOSED to be a good deal. Then shortages happened :/

[@BonusCrook]

Linus is a bit braindead at this point

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

@@hueyrosayaga no it wasn’t The 2080ti was 1200$ too Nvidia had no plans to make this cheaper This is a cash grab plain and simple And it’s just now cause people don’t have the money to spend that people realize what scam the past 2 generations of nvidia gpus have been Even $900 would be fine But 1200 without any extra Vram is stupid And don’t say “you get 2 more gb” No you don’t You get 12 less then you should have This is the 3rd generation with the same Vram count What happened to doubling the Vram every generation? People need to wake up and realize that Nvidia isn’t worth buying

[@RatbagTheCoward]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Then who do you buy? Can you, BornOnTheBattleFront, dissolve the monopoly? Because Nvidia is mandatory for some lines of work

[@jaydeeoldboy9903]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 It that was really true then the 3080 would have been priced much higher. As usual Nvidia is just ripping off their customers, simply because they can.

[@selohcin]

"The Scalpocalypse isn't going to last forever", Linus says. Maybe not, but by the time this is over, the 4000 series will already be out. The 3080 Ti will never be available at MSRP at any time during the next year.

[@obscurumveri5962]

EVGA queue baby, our only hope.

[@Aleph-Noll]

even if it doesn't last forever its effects will. msrp is a joke and we are already seeing the consistent inflated prices

[@admingeneral6532]

@@obscurumveri5962 I think I signed up for that queue in December. It's June and nothing...

[@super_hero2]

Let's hope for crypto crash, then people start to panic sell Nvidia card :))

[@Cloudrak]

@@super_hero2 but it did?

[@mnk47]

GTX 1080ti = 1080 + 35% RTX 3080ti = 3080 + 5% 1/7 of the increase in preformance for 6 times the increase in price

[@loneventhorizon]

Exactly. The way eveyone behaved over this launch just makes me sad for the human race.

[@gurjindersingh3843]

RTX 3080Ti = RTX 2080Ti + 33% for same price RTX 2080Ti = GTX 1080Ti + 30% for 70% higher price RX 6700XT = RX 5700XT + 28% for 20% higher price 3080Ti is clearly a good improvement.

[@joselito8226]

Its not like you can buy a 3080 msrp and partners now sell from 900 to 1k.

[@MagNovax]

@@gurjindersingh3843 Based on generation jump, sure. But if you're upgrading from a 2080 ti, why do a 3080 tj when there is a 3080 that's $400 less and only a 7% difference in performance?

[@uncelesteperro8258]

@@gurjindersingh3843 "Wow, someone just dropped 500 dollars in front of me! how silly! now, I will be able to get the 3080 Ti instead of the pesky 3080, and have 5 more fps on cs:go than with the normal 3080!"

[@PumatSol]

Just goes to show how much editorial quality has become second priority to production quality on LTT, they didn’t even wait for the price reveal before shooting the video. I guess the extra editing time was more important

[@mannyc19]

No,what was more important to Linus was the $$$$$$$ Ngreedia provided him.

[@kw7865]

Absolutely agree. I don't think he is a shill but if you can't make a review with knowing all the important details (and price is like one of the most important aspects) well maybe you should not upload it at all... That's how you know it is more about entertainment and less about actual professional reporting. This review was a major dud.

[@samwise8731]

I can't wait for the next two new GPUs from NVIDIA: the 3090 Ti and 3095 Titan X, which are 1% and 2% faster than 3080 Ti respectively.

[@MarioMastr]

And 100% and 200% more expensive respectively

[@timothygibney159]

Boy did your comment aged like wine 10 months later 😅

[@maxpower_891]

@@timothygibney159 и он был прав

[@connor3384]

@@timothygibney159 i dont understand what happened

[@B.D.E.]

@@timothygibney159 yup he was right lol

[@zwiebl]

Linus: 3080ti is a winner Steve: waste of time and money

[@ahmed9982]

you forgot to include sand

[@DINO_X65]

linus is just a sell out

[@SilentCheechGaming1991]

I go by hardware unboxed and gamers nexus at this point, much more reliable source of information and as far as I know they aren't taking bribes and kickbacks from nvidia unlike LLT

[@dosko9980]

"no brainer at msrp" this card costs literally 1200$. Nearly twice as much as an rtx 3080 and 200$ more than the 6900xt. This is beyond scamming. I can find a 6900xt on the used market for 1300. I honestly expected a price of 950, just to flex on AMDs offering. Guess I'm delusional. Well fewer standard 3080s for us

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

In a market where supply even remotely met demand, it would. This is just a way to make $300 of extra profit. Would I do the same in Nvidia's shoes? I like to think I wouldn't, but it makes a lot of business sense. It's going to get bought anyway, why not sell it with half the vram at a slight discount?

[@2nd_Directorate]

@@benjaminoechsli1941 No it doesn´t. Not from a market reputation point of view, especially if your big "leads" DLSS and RTX are allready copied (albeit less efficient) by the competition. But hey, Nvidia gives a crap about reputation, just like they give a crap about their non-business customers.

[@dosko9980]

It does in the short run, but not in the long run. Customer loyalty might suffer in the future. More so if AMD closes the tech gap in regards to DLSS and raytracing. They dont even have to fully catch up to be more attractive.

[@staz3014]

@@TheHalfBorg Nah, Jensen uses 50% of the money to expand his leather jacket collection.

[@GoldenPhaze]

you can almost afford a gaming laptop with a 3060 with that money lol

[@con7rl670]

GN Steve had a radically different approach than Linus. I agree with Steve, this is a waste of money. I think it's crazy that LTT called it a "no-brainer", even at MSRP. It's marginally better than a 3080 and has half of the 3090's memory.

[@stokemoran]

Is Ting the sponsor for this video or Nvidia? Cause it sounds like Nvidia...

[@joshjohnson8584]

Linus is a damn sell out quit watching him. He is a weak man who cares about nothing but keeping the people who make him money happy.

[@rawhide_kobayashi]

just remember that the 3080 FE MSRP is totally irrelevant now. retailers are selling higher end 3080s for over $1000 (including at the VAG program). wipe that $700 price tag from your mind.

[@galigon3812]

@@joshjohnson8584 Nvidia didn’t tell him the MSRPs for the cards when this was shot.

[@DzinkyDzink]

Does it even matter to YOU? Are you the member of 2% club? Then why the fuck do you care if it costs $800 or $1200 or $2000?

[@Volker_A4]

I'm just watching the 3080 numbers and thinking there's zero chance in hell those 12 fps are worth 50% more.

[@Invictus_Mithra]

"The MSRP is going to be higher than they would have liked." oh yeah, I'm sure Nvidia is really shedding tears at the decision they had to make. What a brave company charging 70% more for ~8% more performance!

[@Ufphen]

more expensive means less sales.

[@GameTimeWhy]

@Jacob not "dumb" enough. People have been holding out for upgrades since the 10 series. People are trying to build new rigs.

[@jimx6447]

@Jacob based on steam, usually less then 1% of gamers will ever be able to buy their high end cards! so stop crying.

[@GainingDespair]

@@Ufphen If you sell everything the second it hits a shelf/store front than no. $12,000 KIA's are basically the cheapest vehicles you can buy new in the US, yet a $45,000 F150 outsells them. Same logic

[@bentondonlevy8386]

@@Ufphen You realize the demand for these is insane right? nvidia could sell them at double msrp and they would still sell out instantly. you sound silly

[@GCGeekArmy]

Every other tech reviewer: This is dog water Linus: I'm not a shill Also Linus: This is a winner

[@smartgorilla]

Exactly! Why did I even watch this half way of this 💩💩

[@amateurwizard]

You sound like a 15 Y/O

[@njoshua3265]

If you think he wants some great NVIDIA monopoly instead of a healthy competition from AMD you haven't watched enough of the videos he has made. that said however, i still think this review in particular is not well done, should have had proper $% stats against 3080 because this card is certainly controversial. tired of the same shill shit that these techtubers get, not all of them but lots do

[@macse7en]

Yeah, paying 70% more for 10% better performance over the standard 3080 isn't right. They're straight up comparing the wrong GPUs. The "Ti" versions have always been viewed as upgraded versions, not something that's supposed to be compared to the next level up.

[@bradenculver7457]

I love yah Linus, but I'm gonna have to agree with Steve on this one. Almost twice the price for less then 10% performance? Even at the expected MSRP that seems far from a "no-brainer" to me.

[@madd5]

WHAT PRICE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! MSRP makes no sense right now. Did you see anywhere 3080 for 700 USD? And you won't be able to buy 3080 ti for 1200 USD. People will happily buy it for 1500 USD.

[@bradenculver7457]

@@madd5 ok, so Nvidia released a card advertising an MSRP of 700 and it gets scalped. Now they are releasing basically the same card for 1200 dollars, which is also going to be scalped. And you don't at all see an issue with that? Either Nvidia should have sold the 3080 at a higher price, or should've lowered the price on this. Like, yea, MSRP means nothing now once the cards are scalped but that's such a stupid argument for increasing the price even more. And no, not everyone is buying those cards. Only people who can afford to spend three times a cards worth are buying cards right now, which is why MSRP is actually fucking important. Most people are forgoing buying gpu's right now. Scalpers will probably sell these for similar margins they've been selling other cards, I don't see much reason to assume otherwise, and you'll be paying even more for this if you wanted it.

[@zipzip6677]

@@madd5 If people weren't happy to buy scalped 3080s they're not going to be happy to buy an already pre-scalped 3080. The 3080ti is overpriced to take advantage of the current market situation.

[@madd5]

@@bradenculver7457 NONE OF THAT MATTERS! Nvidia increased the MSRP because they can and there is a demand. Why nvidia should lose money while scalpers sell it for 3 times the price?! If I was nvidia I would make these cards 1500 USD. Because they will be selling for 2000 USD at least. It doesn't matter what is the MSRP, if the market is right the price will go below MSRP. That's not the case right now.

[@madd5]

@@zipzip6677 3080 ti would still cost 2000 USD, even if NVIDIA made it 100 USD MSRP! Do you understand that? Why should nvidia lose money? They are not idiots.

[@maxinecantspeak]

How can I trust LTT ever again after this train wreck?

[@Son37Lumiere]

You can't, nor should you ever have. Linus has been an nvshill for a very long time.

[@PaulHofreiter]

Simple - you can’t. And you shouldn’t have before this because unbiased “reviews” are long gone.

[@yahallo4423]

Bruh you shouldn't watch a review for the trust value though. Reviews have 2 main things, data and opinions (interpretation of data). If the data is correct it should be verifiable with other reviewers, and the interpretation of it you should be able to see if they are consistent, have flaws or if it's illogical. You can even ignore their opinions fully since you can do the thinking for yourself if the data is provided. Trust in this context is irrelevant and unnecessary. If they release a product however... I'd probably perceive it with a negative bias since they've lost touch of their target audience.

[@nightrider6102]

So over dramatic. Lmao

[@supersop1367]

@@CozzyB Breh shutup

[@pow1983]

I'm with Gamers Nexus on this one.

[@fabian_ftn6604]

Same

[@dpb3884]

Same

[@Northicex]

I stand with Steve.

[@chuchof3tt669]

yup .. we are

[@Yggdrasill8]

I'm with Tech Jesus for this one

[@MateMeerai]

It's so funny to see how different Linus and Steven from GN are aproaching the review. Linus is happy to get a basicly 3090 for less and Steven bashes the card for being only 10%ish better than the 3080 but costs ~$400 more. I love it.

[@twiggsherman3641]

Yeah it doesn't make any sense. Steve is obviously the gold standard when it comes to honest reviews and advice. Linus dropped the ball here. Bad.

[@How23497]

Except that it doesn't cost $400 more. It costs more or less about the same... $3000

[@9SMTM6]

@@How23497 at MSRP the 3080Ti is 500$ more than the 3080 and 300$ less than the 3090, while compared to the 3090 its loosing half its RAM when only gaining 20% on the 3080. Yeah its a money grab. It isn't necessarly bad in the current climate. That depends, among others, on how NVIDIA handles it, whether it diverts more 3090s to it or more 3080s. And to be honest I don't at all trust Nvidias claims here, the fact that they're asking 1200$ for this card and have the balls to claim it's primarily to help gamers and not to increase their cut of the current market all but proves their motivation and likely strategy. It is, however, any way you put it, desastrous for the market after the current situation. Because the 3090 already saw Nvidia massively increase their profit span, without the 3090 having many of the traditional advantages of the Titans. The 3080Ti costs Nvidia almost the same to make as the 3080, but the consumer costs are far closer to the 3090. And that's not just Scalper prices, but Nvidia MSRP. Which means it'll continue to be a thing after the current situation, they obviously don't aim to reduce pricing after the current situation stops. If Nvidia were only trying to increase their cut in the current climate (which I'm actually somewhat okay with), they'd not increase their MSRP but they'd just hike the price they're selling the cards to their partners for.

[@Guttsdoyle]

@@9SMTM6 12 - 7 = 5

[@TheCompyshop]

I honestly don’t know why Steve is bitching about it, theres literally no chance were going to buy any of those cards for Msrp. I got my hands on 2 3070’s and I had to buy them at 3x MSRP after spending 6 months trying to buy them because I had no choice. It’s stupid

[@sic22l]

So it's 10% faster with 20% more VRAM for mere 71% price increase. I'm disappointed in you Linus.

[@dudeanderson2401]

Do you need him to hold your hand and tell you what to do with your life? He didn’t even know what the cards cost was when the video was filmed

[@cin2110]

@@dudeanderson2401 Other tech reviewers with 1-5 people working on their videos all posted their reviews in time with more benchmarks and details and they considered the price too how is Linus Media Group with 50 people can't do the same Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed and Bitwit (who made the video on his own btw) did it in time they all have more detail and they all incorparated the price in their reviews this is a big fuck up stop making excuses for LMG.

[@maxview99]

🤫 Everything just works, just buy it

[@TheKaustubh0000]

@@dudeanderson2401 so what? Gamers nexus put out a 20 min video with more details AFTER knowing the price. Linus has a 100 times bigger team than GN

[@nunyabusiness4651]

I agree, Gamer Nexis said it all... Don't bother.!

[@AstraMilitarumFodder]

This is another Tom's Hardware take coming from Linus... "JUST BUY IT"

[@randalldraco3822]

It just works

[@evolicious]

64 TIMES MORE DETAIL

[@redlinemx2879]

@@randalldraco3822 like King Crimson.

[@ELGG1894]

@@redlinemx2879 if you think king crimson is confusing just wait until you get to D4C

[@aperson7624]

"Hi, I'm Linus. Let me release a video saying this is better, faster, cheaper, without actually knowing that, because my work pipeline is so long I'd be last to the pack if I didn't." Quit being a clown. Take the extra hours to know data, then make the video, then release it. Goodness.

[@DINO_X65]

nah, he probably knew the price, he sold out to nvidia, guess this is what money does to a person, and his videos have been getting more clickbaity, too bad, his videos used to be good

[@mannyc19]

Linus is too busy flushing what remains of his journalistic ethics down the toilet at nVIDIA HQ.

[@juracan8591]

Steve at Gamers Nexus does way more in depth testing and they waited until they knew the price (as any reviewer with integrity would do) before reviewing it and STILL released it on time. Since they were still able to sneak in that clip about him reacting to the price, I don't see why he couldn't have waited like an hour or two to make the video.

[@evolicious]

But he makes more money doing it this way and the army of children that sub here are the real audience. LTT doesn't care about facts, they are here to sell you. Stop watching LTT, ffs.

[@ratykat]

Feels a little blind that this was done before knowing the price.

[@evolicious]

It was intentional to generate them most clicks and make the most money. LTT are about generating revenue, they don't care about educating their audience. You watching a channel of product marketing and clickbait tiktok videos, not a tech channel.

[@Coktane_]

Prediction: In the next few days, Linus releases a video acknowledging other channels' viewpoints, but stating he isn't sucking up to Nvidia either.

[@aykutcoskun6092]

He will say "because we need to act quick, we have a big team, we didn't know msrp, things i said in video still true" etc. Reviewing any product without knowing price is bad journalism. I like ltt a lot but they become more Verge-like as they get bigger.

[@RiceCakeWtf]

This is a drinking game I can get with.

[@studentoo925]

They should delete this one and do one more as acknowledgement of their fck up

[@aykutcoskun6092]

@@leolego2 that's not how it works. Both Nvidia and Ltt get their money by that nerds and we are just giving constructive feedback. We are ltt fans too, this is just a mistake.

[@Girvo747]

@@leolego2 lol imagine defending a company like this. They’re not your friend. Put your parasocial relationship down and back away

[@marianoen3158]

how in the world can you recommend a card 10% better then the old one WITHOUT knowing the price !! in your mind price have that much importance to you ? , just wow.

[@802Garage]

"As powerful as their previous king, but at a significantly lower price." Yeah, except it's much much more significantly higher price than the next tier down for barely any more performance. Fail.

[@daraclancy2875]

Comparing the 3080ti to the 3090 is like saying "drinking the liquid you put in your washing machine is really safe compared to drinking a litre of cyanide". The 3090 is a stupid, overpriced card for gaming in the first place, so almost any card will look good compared to it. Even if that card, like the 3080ti, is also a stupid ripoff.

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

@@daraclancy2875 The 3090 is realistically for graphics WORK, rather than gaming. Comparing ANY gaming card to a 3090 makes NO sense at all, really...🤔

[@jakobvanklinken]

@@MichaelBerthelsen that's literally what Dara is saying

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

@@jiijijjijiijiij Do you honestly think that 4K and 8K gaming is a big enough customer segment that they'd ever give enough of a shit to make it a mainstream card at this time? Wow, you're either rich and totally blind/ignorant of the real world, or you massively overestimate the quality that most people game at.😂 The reason the 3090 has as much memory as it does, is mostly for workloads, not gaming.

[@clayskii]

The 3090 isn't even the real gaming card flagship. It's the Titan card overpriced with VRAM for professionals/creators. The 3080 Ti lines up with the 3080 and yet retains the ridiculous Titan price tag.

[@venumV2]

saw the gamers nexus vid first, coming to this later is odd

[@tcransandman]

same. Feels really eerie like "there is no war in ba sing se"

[@venumV2]

@@tcransandman lol the wan show title is "Addressing my Bad Take on RTX 3080 Ti" big off

[@HoldMeForever]

Gamers Nexus is a godsend.

[@jakekiedaisch2279]

@@venumV2 except if you actually watched the wan show, linus says that he stands by his take and gives many good reasons why.

[@jonlaw16]

@@jakekiedaisch2279 Did he give "good" reasons though? Linus compared the scalper 3080 prices to the MSRP of the 3080Ti to justify the price of the 3080Ti... In this video he admits that he has know idea what the MSRP would even be for the 3080Ti! How can Linus recommend that people purchase the 3080Ti in this video before he even knows the price?? Linus can't accept that he is wrong about anything.

[@Ghan04]

"If you can get one at MSRP, it's a no-brainer." I'm very disappointed, Linus. The 3080 Ti is 70% more expensive than the 3080 for a few % increase in gaming performance. This is an absurd product at that price point, and the fact that you couldn't be bothered to give your review due consideration in the context of that key point diminishes your credibility on this issue. Nvidia does not deserve praise for this launch and it's blatantly obvious to consumers. You need to do better.

[@brokenphysics6146]

To be fair, any gpu you can get at msrp right now, is a no-brainer.

[@ODIRION]

i think he just meant that any GPU available at MSRP is a no brainer, not that he was really happy about that price

[@jondizzo9200]

To be fair, any gpu you can get at MSRP right now, is a no-brainer. No-brainer in the sense that you should not buy. You're a sap if you're buying any of these ridiculous cards.

[@Hrathen39]

Honestly he prolly should've just said 3080 was better deal, do NOT try to buy the 3080ti... Instead he's praising it for some reason like how it's cheaper than 3090. NO ONE was even recommending the 3090 when it launched, he shouldn't even use it as comparison

[@raawesome3851]

@@Hrathen39 there's no way to get the 3080. That's the thing.

[@Logical]

A The Verge production.

[@CellarDoorAU]

10:41 "You know what's not going to look pretty good?" ...This review after the market has normalised.

[@matthewwojtowicz6664]

I miss the days when a video like this would have been titled "GTX 3080 Ti Review" instead of a clickbaity title that offers very little insight into what the video is actually about

[@praxisrebourne]

@Matthew Robert trouble is, he's doing an entertainment show in the name of product reviews at times

[@frionxcalamari6393]

Calling it a GTX 3080 Ti review is also hot

[@wasteofgooglesspace]

wait, its in the thumbnail

[@PurplePanda1233]

Gotta keep that green team money flowing

[@jakefoster8308]

"Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti Review" is in the title

[@DavidFregoli]

can you believe we can finally get near-3090 performance at near-3090 prices?

[@nickgarcia1292]

Or, can you believe we can now get just over 3080 performance for only 70% more money?

[@LucidStrike]

This "review" was WAY too soft on Nvidia charging over 70% more than the 3080 for up to like 10% more performance. You looked weak af here, Linus.

[@iFiReRaiN]

Totally agree Lucid. Shame on you Linus, are you out of touch like Nvidia that you will now call it a 3080 Tei instead of T I? Both so cringe. First slap make it LHR. Second slap not know how to pronounce your own product. Third slap make it over priced and become scalpers them selves. Nvidia not making good decisions.

[@kalmtraveler]

agreed 100% I like LMG's approach most of the time, but I would expect them to side more with us gamers/consumers when terrible value products are created.

[@DJRaffa1000]

i also would have liked at least some segment at the end (edited in) about how the 1200$ msrp changes things up. But to be fair here, the expectations going into the video was the "old" internal msrp of 999$ which would make this a "42% price increase for 10% more performace". Still not great but a lot better than it is now. Also the competing products of the 3080ti are the 3090 and the 6900xt. And compared to THOSE cards a 3080TI at the supposed 999$ would be a really good deal for whoever shops in that price segment. "better than competitors" doesnt mean "makes sense for everyone" A 150k Model S plaid compared to a 3 mio Lambo is a massively bonkers better deal and anyone who wants a "hypercar" acceleration wise should absolutely look into it. But that doesnt mean that a 150k car is for "everyone"

[@checkmyprofile6209]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZK8aIiihZmBsKc.

[@jaredbasham2244]

Basically yes, this might as well be called a 3090 slim edition, because from a purely gaming to performance at msrp of course the 3080ti looks absolutely terrible compared to the 3080, which is why Linus realized that trying to do any favorable light to this comparing to the 3080 was just not going to happen, so the only logical step was to compare it to the 3090. If your looking for accurate and far review of this product look no further then Gamer's Nexus, who apu only keeps it real.

[@biogopher]

Amazing that you can put the 3080 and the TIE on screen and not compare the two and ask "is this worth another $500?"

[@gonzo9769]

He knows exactly what he's doing,this video proves that he's just a shill who will take money to mislead his audience. This clown makes a ridiculous amount of money as it is,but he wants more so he lies to his audience for a check from huge companies like Nividia.

[@probablykeen]

@@gonzo9769 Pretty sure he mentioned it was because the specs are basically the same, about.... 3-4 times? not that hard to miss. He should have mentioned more of the 3080, but he was going for a more direct comparison. I like how you call him a clown when hes probably more educated in these matters than 95% of the ppl in these comments

[@NegTharayas16]

Very disappointed with this review by Linus - he completely accepted Nvidia's talking points on comparing the 3080ti against the 3090 rather than the 3080... "It's a no-brainer"??? What in the world Linus.... 70% more for 5-10% improvement... and this is on the MSRP, which is "supposed to be reasonable". Even if you would have had to re-record the entire video, it would have been better than making yourself seem like a fool.

[@chagi4334]

well you have to consider the current market yo don t get anything with such performance under 2k so if you get it at msrp its a no brainer

[@richardbroder]

@@chagi4334 It doesn't matter. If the current market is charging 3x MSRP, it's still way better to pay 3x MSRP over USD699 than it is to pau 3x MSRP over USD1199 for a 15% (sometimes not even that) performance bump.

[@chagi4334]

@@richardbroder thats not how the market works it does not just triple in price its a dynamic Nvidia just takes of more margin from the scalpers

[@NegTharayas16]

@@chagi4334 there is an argument to be made. Lots of people bought 3090s because they wanted a new card and it was hard to get anything else. This would at least be a better version of that position if you can get it at MSRP. I am still on the "not going to buy till I see reasonable prices" bandwagon. And believe me... It does hurt. But I am not going to let these corps walk all over me. I can endure less than ideal fps and smaller than ideal resolutions for quite a while longer.

[@chagi4334]

@@NegTharayas16 yes me to but i understand your position. But if you need a graphics card right now msrp is a no brainer.

[@nagarajanvaidya9266]

In this Friday's wan show, I'd like to hear why this review has a very different tone from the other reviews, please.

[@p3chv0gel22]

I'd guess, because they Made the Video, before knowing the price, they didn't pick on how bad the value is, which was the maim issue most other reviewers seemed to have with the card.

[@brendago4505]

If the 3080 Ti was $999 msrp like Linus thought it was gonna be, it wouldn't be the best price for performance but it would have been in line with previous top of the line Ti cards.

[@timchambers55]

@@p3chv0gel22 And then chose to launch the video regardless of the fact it's content isn't useful, because the video was scripted and filmed before they had access to all the information.

[@omarcomming722]

@@brendago4505 It would only be in line with 2080 Ti, the previous shit one. 1080 Ti was $700 and a huge jump over the 1080 for only $100 more.

[@nagarajanvaidya9266]

After watching the conclusion again, what I noticed was he wasn't really giving a buying recommendation at all. All he's said is that this is a top end card, and after the GPU shortage is over this card has a place at the top of Nvidia's lineup. That definitely isn't as offensive as others are making the video to be, but strangely a different tone from others' videos and I'd like to understand why it is so.

[@brando3342]

"Significantly lower price" *Looks up price* 1200 bucks is supposed to be obtainable?

[@fireared9244]

If you can get it

[@simdevils]

I rather pay that for a 3080ti than a 3070

[@Nickxis]

bruh it's $300 cheaper than 3090 with almost the same performance, what more do want?

[@gorjy9610]

@@Nickxis it's $500 more for just 10% more performance than 3080. Still sound good?

[@damn1580]

Probably gonna sell for $600 when the RTX 4070 is announced :v

[@hackrush01]

Crytek: Crysis Remastered nVidia: Crisis Remastered

[@COMRADEALPHA]

Underrated

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

MS & Asobo: C...r...i...s...i...s ... ... R...e...m...a...s...t...e...r...e...d

[@LazyEngineerYT]

Lol Xd

[@joshuadcosta5602]

My wallet: Cries Remastered

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

This comment should be no1. 🤣😂

[@zebilaweed]

That's surprising how different the review from Gamers Nexus is. Steve made really good points... Your review seems like an ad for real..

[@GrumpiestKitten]

Yeah, especially his note at 7:55 felt like some bullet-point he threw in to satisfy the "reviewer-guide". Like how its usually "make sure to mention this to get paid" in advertising.

[@nk4j272]

@@GrumpiestKitten while I also think the review is a miss, I'm sure Linus isn't paid to say anything, he and his team have a strong record of integrity no matter what or who.

[@s3rit661]

Because Steve doesn't see a 3090 as a gamer card, but it can be, and 3080Ti has more value from it, Steve said at the start of his video that he didn't want to confront it with a 3090 couse 3090 isn't what you should be buying for gaming, but that isn't true in my opinion, 3080Ti has a very good value

[@TeeTeeNet]

Is it just me or is Linus becoming more and more disconnected?

[@pritamchowdhury2167]

He got biased towards nvidia after 3060 launch

[@akcsegamedev]

@@pritamchowdhury2167 He is "Always" biased towards Nvidia

[@xSkully_H]

Doesn't Nvidia own a large part of LMG or something? I thought I recalled that being a thing.

[@GrowingFolf]

He been not been recommended AMD video cards for long while.

[@GrowingFolf]

Linus been in Nivida pockets for long while from all his content.....he always postive review there stuff and gives AMD so so reviews.

[@jc9203]

This is a very disappointing video. As a consumer/subscriber I have always looked at this channel as somewhere where I'll get a good comphensive take on products with some humor thrown in. This video only gave me half of the story comming accross as a sponsor video or very optimistic at best. Some credibility was lost with this one.

[@nickgarcia1292]

There are so many better channels these days. Hardware canucks comes highly recommended as does gamers nexus of course

[@pinkchckn]

Don't forget hardware unboxed, the guys that nearly got blacklisted by nvidia because of one of their reviews

[@ninja85aop48]

I love how they didnt even know the price when they were recording this, thats how much nvidia knew they were being scummy

[@f-ckmyr0fil788]

RTY

[@ninja85aop48]

@@hollyc5417 indeed, gamers nexus have called it a waste of money for how much it costs as well, but how do they know what the price is but linus doesnt, sus

[@friedengilbert8067]

@@hollyc5417 In what way does that show that he's a shill...? Everything he stated about the card's performance before the price is still true, and they used the "sad" reaction after they could insert the actual price. I don't get the point you're making.

[@RahatAzim998]

@@friedengilbert8067 it's only about 10% more performance than a regular 3080 for 500 dollars more. If anyone's looking for value for money they'd buy the $699 3080. And if anyone is looking for the absolute best they should buy the 3090. Anyone who can buy a $1200 dollar card would just pay $1500 for the double VRAM of the 3090.

[@jemborg]

@@friedengilbert8067 the fps may improve but the fp$ do not.

[@BingsBuddery]

Geeze, you seem surprisingly off the mark compared to most other review channels on this one. Missed me.

[@Vyruis]

Aren't they still part owned by Nvidia anyways? You don't watch Linus for actual information, you watch it to be entertained and for mostly biased reviews.

[@BingsBuddery]

@@Vyruis lol

[@Imurai]

Yeah I'mc gonna go the opposite way. As GN has stated, this is pure scalping, by the manufacturer themselves!

[@rockstarduh5]

How is selling a card at the market determined price scalping? Selling below the market price just incentivizes scalpers even more since they can make money by doing nothing. Also, the extra money between MSRP and market price goes to some rando using a bot to buy 5 cards instead of Nvidia who actually built the product. Selling below market price just encourages scalping and puts money in scalpers hands instead of people who actually made the cards.

[@killtyrant]

@@rockstarduh5 They are selling a card that is at best 8 to 10% better than its 3080 counterpart at 70%+ the msrp. The only reason a company would do that is because people like yourself would excuse this because "Muh Scalpers". Scalping has been around for decades in various different markets, its only in graphics card do they encourage the company to increase the prices. Nvidia doesn't care about who actually gets their cards, they are making money no matter what. Increasing prices only truly hurts legit buyers with a higher pay wall.

[@ismaelyu5]

@@rockstarduh5" market determined" would mean end to end in a direkt trade, setting up 2-5 middle man to sell something that is normally accesable has nothing to do with standart market prices

[@dominicsandoval4116]

@@rockstarduh5 this reasoning makes zero sense. Gpu Scalpers exist so gpu prices should rise as a deterrent? Lol wut. Price to performance is king. You cannot ignore the performance gain in comparison to the price. It's just a company cashing in on the current marketplace climate. Demand is through the roof, so they essentially painted some racing stripes and the letters Ti on a 3080 to cash in. They are absolutely scalping their own card because they know it will sell. Unless nvidia is paying you, you should really stop trying to defend the shitty business practices lol its good for their bottom line, shitty for consumers.

[@cin2110]

@@rockstarduh5 Scalpers will just sell this over 2000-2500$ more expensive the card better the profit you seriously think that you can find this at msrp anywhere

[@Jorge-hn1ye]

Steve was right on the roast of Linus :(

[@goovindnarula6470]

What did he say?

[@jonlaw16]

@@goovindnarula6470 Steve argued that a higher MSRP for the 3080Ti would simply become a similarly higher scalped price on the ""2nd hand"" market. Linus argued performance is all that matters and that the 3080 and 3080Ti would be similar in price on the 2nd hand market because they are so similar in performance. That hasn't been the case. Also in the WAN show Linus was trying to defend his bad take by saying that the MSRP of the 3080Ti is significantly better than a scalped price of a 3080. The issue is that the MSRP is meaningless and it turns out the 3080Ti costs significantly more than a 3080, even on the scalped market.

[@moist_ointment]

@@jonlaw16 you're wrong. Literally just checked ebay. Price difference between 3080 and 3080ti is smaller on eBay than the MSRP price difference

[@jonlaw16]

@@moist_ointment does the price difference reflect the performance difference though? That's the argument Linus was making on the WAN show. Are the 3080Ti's selling for

[@moist_ointment]

@@jonlaw16 no, they aren't. 3080s are going for like $2K, and 3080tis are going for like $2200. Go on Ebay right now. Steve was wrong, Ebay pricing shows the true value of these cards (aka what the market will pay). Arguing over MSRP is pointless because you're not buying at MSRP

[@ErikCPianoman]

8:28 I'd love to see what those other price points/reactions were...

[@luciannegru8761]

Release the #LinusCut

[@tiduszk]

I imagine there's 3. One above the expected price showing dissatisfaction, aka the one we saw. One at the expected price that would show Linus in his normal excited character. And one below the expected price, which would basically have been a party.

[@Depl0rable10]

@@luciannegru8761 #LinusCut

[@laxmitty21]

It may be on their tiktok

[@shiskeyoffles]

#ReleaseTheLinusCut

[@Traventine]

You can't review the value of a card without knowing the MSRP. Guys, come on.

[@RealStuntPanda]

Breaking news: The 3080 Ti has an MSRP of $1,199.

[@hareshrk6259]

lol gg

[@irishguy9001]

This is definitely where LTT's higher production value bites them in the butt. GN had the more up to date info in their video since they're much less flashy but way more educational. LTT probably wouldn't have time to rewrite the review based on these scalping prices.

[@brownshit1]

@@irishguy9001 agreed and you know what, I prefer the grittier feel of Steve's videos too. LTT has become more like TV and the whole reason I turned away from that is because it was all for show and no substance.

[@gsrtn0]

Yeah no Linus I don't think people will like you for this one, and I don't blame them

[@camaro25]

Yup. I like Linus, but this video is a no go for me. Sounds like he's sucking up to Nvidia. Like Jayztwocents said, Nvidia should have taken the chips they used to make the 3070ti and 3080ti and used them to make more normal 3060s, 3070s and 3080s. The mid range is what most people buy. Why make more cards most people can't afford right now.

[@amunak_]

Yeah, at the very least they should've added an actual video of them talking about the price and perhaps reaching other conclusions, or they simply shouldn't have released it at all since it was all based on some assumptions. The way it looks now is that LTT is completely oblivious to the fact that this is another huge price hike for GPUs and they're saying it's a bargain... Doesn't look good on them.

[@James_Online]

@@camaro25 why not make more cards for the regular mid - upper mid range cards? Because by producing more high end cards than low end they force consumers who previously had no reason to spend money on high end to have to spend more for it because there are no mid range cards to buy. Nvidia understands the current chip shortage and is capitalizing on it. It's the same reason why there were so many 3090s made in comparison to 3070/80.

[@eatyofacen00b]

Aaaaaaand we've reached the point where LTT becoming so big has come to fruition. Calling a $1200 card a "good prospect" when it's only 7-13% better than the 3080... which is 70% cheaper.... I kinda hope that they go back to shilling vacuums.

[@riguor9876]

at 0:24 they put "this video was shot before NVIDIA revealed the MSRP" They probably ASSUMED it was going to be a good value, but then NVIDIA did the price reveal and dated the video before it ever came out

[@yogi30303]

Didn't you see his reaction to the price? He expected it to release at $999, he clearly said that in the video. Also, why are you comparing it to 3080 and not 3090, which starts at $1500.

[@DJ5540]

@@yogi30303 3090 is already dog water in terms of value. Framing this card as faster than the 3090 in games while being cheaper ignores that it's only 10% faster than a 3080 at 70% price increase. Here's a tip, don't review a product if you don't know its price

[@willo1345]

@@yogi30303 Why make a video about it if he didn't know the price? It's a pretty important bullet point to fuck up. And why would it be compared to another waste of money for gamers instead of something with actual good value? Congratulations, marketing speak has bamboozled you.

[@ScarletKomi]

While your point is correct, 3080 is 40% cheaper than 3080 Ti while 3080 Ti is 70% more expensive than 3080.

[@SalimHacker]

This video gonna make it to the wan show this weekend! "You didn t understand what i mean by a good deal!".... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Justin3Santiago]

Everytime, it's either "you misunderstood me" or "we will strive to be better", then it's back to making the same mistakes

[@tastymacification]

Linus frustrated face.

[@sonicjms]

Linus you've said before that LTT doesn't need to release their reviews at the same time as smaller outlets at the exact embargo time, you should have waited for the price (and the benchmark results from the other cards included to be factored into the script) to shoot this video, even if that meant releasing it later into the day. The fact that you don't mention the cheaper AMD cards outperforming this card and that the price isn't factored into the script makes you appear biased. I get it's because the video is rushed but a lot of people won't see that. This video isn't up to quality and should not have been released as is.

[@cin2110]

Other tech reviewers with 1-5 people working on their videos all posted their reviews in time with more benchmarks and details and they considered the price too how is Linus Media Group with 50 people can't do the same Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed and Bitwit (who made the video on his own btw) did it in time they all have more detail and they all incorparated the price in their reviews this is a big fuck up.

[@santiagoperez2094]

@@cin2110 in any company 5% of the employees do 50% of the work, go figure.

[@frodothehobo9581]

Lmao, comparing this to the GN review is hilarious. Linus is really losing my respect these days.

[@RobertOfHill]

I straight up don’t come to this channel for reviews anymore. GN is the only group I trust to be honest about hardware these days. Linus really needs to put out a correction to this video. SOON.

[@frodothehobo9581]

@@RobertOfHill >Linus really needs to put out a correction to this video. SOON. *narrator: he won't*

[@Deliveredmean42]

@@RobertOfHill They probably will. They literally had a disclaimer saying they film this video before the presentation and prices were made public. Still, we are people and can always makes mistakes in the assumptions.

[@dragonking2849]

@@frodothehobo9581 All they had to do was add like what 30s of simply captured video by any other person available to read the script at the end, stating their change in opinion about the card. They have done that previously in a few videos. Sad, they did not see this through.

[@Cypeq]

This a take one might have, when money is no longer an object.

[@giggyolly]

I'm really not sure how you took a positive spin on this launch

[@mannyc19]

$$$$

[@skippychurch2965]

Money

[@BossunEX]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@andriidesu2936]

To be fair, if this was sold at msrp in this situation, it would be better than virtually anything out there.

[@automata.]

@boopsnoot ray tracing on AMD GPUs is a joke though, and with DLSS they blow performance out of the water

[@The_Chad_]

There is so many things wrong with this review that I'm not even going to start listing them. All I will say is it's an embarrassment for LTT and I will not be able to consider their reviews as legitimate anymore. Maybe you're trying to make a few too many videos a week there, bud. Damn! I mean, even Jay managed to keep himself from fawning all over this thing! WTF Linus?!? Seriously, how much is Nvidia paying you?

[@moejake4388]

Now I understand why people say Linus is a shill...

[@Aberrantly]

*Sigh* and why would that be then? Linus isn't exactly lying now is he? Sure he tries to sell us ridiculously expensive products, but he also goes over the benefits (as well as the cons) of doing so, which is more than you could say about most of these so-called "shills". Heck, he even tests to see where the products differ in quality, and even told us that we shouldn't spend the extra bucks on the 3090, knowing that the 3080Ti would not only be cheaper (at least at some point) but also that it would help out Nvidia significantly due to lack of components for aforementioned. Now, Linus is really just doing his job, he's by no means being a shill, simply just trying to help others out while also helping himself out. As should be.

[@R3MJ0B]

@@Aberrantly No he is shilling hard as fuck in this vid, any responsible reviewer would have been making comparisons to the 3080 where as this video is 95% comparing it to the 3090 which is going to portray it as way better value than if it was compared to the 3080. The only time he did bring up a comparison to the 3080 was with 2 games at 4k res where the Ti will get its highest performance increase over the 3080. This review made me unsub from LTT it is straight up deceptive.

[@forceofone]

@@Aberrantly nah man...this 'review' goes against what every other reviewer (gamers nexus,hardware unboxed,bitwit,pauls hardware,digital foundry etc.)says about this product...its nothing but a cashgrab,and linus was struggling to find the positives...

[@PatalJunior]

@@R3MJ0B Tbh he didn't knew the final price anyways, I think he was expecting for 1000$.

[@fatihnri2484]

@@PatalJunior yes. The million dollar question is, is it competent to make a review knowing the price? Or even worse, basing the review on a lower price point than it actually is?

[@Vic.Mackey]

"It's a no-brainer. It's a winner." LMFAO

[@ruby_gleyzes]

It is so dishonest.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

@@ruby_gleyzes It was recorded before they got the price. I think that if they had known it would be $1200 at the time of writing and filming, they would have changed their tone quite a bit. I think Gamer's Nexus' video had the right tone because they correctly _predicted_ that it would be a ripoff. With current GPU shortages, I think we all kinda saw the writing on the wall here so it is kinda on Linus for being too optimistic.

[@FraserElphick]

"Get one at msrp, it's a nobrainer" you recorded this before knowing price! You need a followup fast!

[@anonymone453]

I'd be surprised if he didn't address it during WAN Everybody else is furious about the price, not necessarily the card itself

[@piratewhoisquiet]

did you not wait for his "reaction to the MSRP" because this was made before they knew the MSRP, which the video actually already mentioned before it?

[@SatongiFilms]

he said "if you can get.." makes a lot of difference

[@FraserElphick]

@@piratewhoisquiet i know but they should have done a reshoot as it had to have been way above what they had expected. Ridiculous conclusion.

[@MichaelSuperbacker]

Wait so the 3080ti is really going to be $1,199!?!?!? 😡 that’s fu$&ing expensive!!!!!!

[@gamergod9182]

Linus: It's a winner! Literally everybody else: No, it's not.

[@Mentadeath]

Linustechtips is the last place to find actually insightful reviews, he just positively encoureges us buyers to eat nvidia's shit up, while EVERY other reviewer has called out the 3080ti as the fucking joke that it is (see gamers nexus, hardware unboxed, bitwit...)

[@Zokiio]

@@Mentadeath yet I am still going to buy it and a lot of others. ^^

[@Mentadeath]

@@Zokiio Have fun my man

[@DINO_X65]

@@Mentadeath linus sold out a long time ago, too bad, because at one point, his videos actually used to be good

[@DINO_X65]

@@Mentadeath someone needs to call linus out for the joke he is, because that is what the 3080 ti and linus have in common

[@lunascomments3024]

bad take, linus. but its alright. It meant youre in the corporate side. it just like that, honestly.

[@evolicious]

corpo trash

[@11910blackops]

Can't wait for his scheduled damage control on this week's WAN show. This guy needs new writers

[@pmclean1980]

News flash, it's not the writers. It starts at the top. Linus is a schill. A corporate sellout. He doesn't care about his viewers except that they are consumers. Check out lttstore for $50cdn water bottle or $100cdn hoodies.

[@nexusproductions2064]

Man i'm so pissed abt this i'm not even gonna watch the wan show cause its honestly very fricking sad. I just can't wait for him to justify himself and talk abt more sponsors..

[@jmporkbob]

What exactly was going through LMG's head with this take?

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Thoughts of the new car hes gonna buy with his nvidia $$$

[@nathandouglas7821]

@@AndersHass that may be but he knew it was high and even said it is going to be more than whatever we put on the screen below.. so i dont see your point

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

It makes me wonder if they're so overleveraged that they must put a video up every day no matter what the quality is.

[@captaincheesepuffs610]

@@AndersHass yet they uploaded it after the price announcement

[@jmporkbob]

@@AndersHass That's no excuse at all. This video is their company's product, and it is put out under the assumption that we are supposed to take it seriously. We knew 2 days ago what the price was. And in that time all they did was put in a 3 second prerecorded clip with a sound effect, to acknowledge the price. The whole tone of the video is otherwise not taking into consideration what the price means for the product. Sure that's because they didn't know it, but it should be important for his viewers that he have a level-headed assessment and not just compare it to the joke called the 3090 and say "seems good" (paraphrasing). If some reviewers with a staff a fraction the size of Linus only got their card unboxed yesterday and can still get a video up taking all these points into consideration (literally every other reviewer did, regardless of staff size), then that just underscores how low the quality and effort of this "review" was. They should have done a reshoot, or at least put an addendum recorded later at the end. But instead they are jumping the shark with their credibility.

[@contrerasjosue69]

Completing ignoring the rtx 3080 and then recommending it like a no brainer? Ltt why, just why.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Did you see the difference? 3080 is trash

[@synap5terr]

Out of Bitwit, Gamers Nexus, JayzTwoCents, Hardware Unboxed, only Linus has managed to find something good to talk about in this card ... Still, wouldn't buy even if it was on MSRP ...

[@eldergeektromeo9868]

The fact that Linus has always been fair minded is not the issue here: just more SCAM models and prices by NVIDIA! Enough!

[@ratnamani8228]

@@eldergeektromeo9868 You forgot the Scam Reviews Part. 😁👍

[@TritonTv69420]

Glad i got a 3070 so happy with that monster

[@franky-161]

there is nothing really good to talk about the 3080ti, just another nvidia scam

[@BourgDotOrg]

Linus is an Nvidia shill in this instance

[@shangerdanger]

am I the only one still on 1080Ti? and happy about it?

[@m88lagger]

Nope, still rocking it with LGA2011 :P

[@shawnpaulzuccarellorizzo]

Yup

[@shushiara]

Fucking keep that shit till actual good cards come out

[@Davitron_87]

The mental gymnastics Linus goes through in this review to find positives is shocking.

[@KeyT3ch]

I think he made a fair point, people are being too critical about him. Here' my hottake: 1. Just because something is named "Ti", it doesnt mean that it has to reflect the pricing that it should be in. Products naming scheme changes and so will the prices, and we know Nvidia nor AMD NOR Intel is the best at naming schemes. 2. This is essentially a 3090-lite, give or take like within a 3% margin in terms of specs sheet on paper. You're telling me that you can get a 3090 that is priced cheaper than a 3090? That is a heck of a deal, granted, if we are talking about MSRP, WHICH NOTHING is being sold at RIGHT NOW! So if you can snatch this baby up AT MSRP, and you have the means to do so, then this is a great deal, but does that mean everyone needs to have one? HECK NO! This is not made for the "average" consumer, especially if you're a gamer! Trust me, GPUs can do A LOT of things on top of just video editing/streaming or gaming, gaming is just the tip of the iceberg of what GPUs can do, not to even mention mining crypto. If you're running low on VRAM on the lower end products, and you HAVE to get this so you can bump those texture settings up, then I have bad news for you mate, get angry at Nvidia, not the reviewers, it is Nvidia's fault for still sticking by such low amount of RAM capacity.

[@lanceislateagain]

Anakin: We're gonna release a new graphics card. Padme: To lower prices, right? Anakin: ... (: Padme: ... to lower prices, right? |:

[@THEFIRE360]

Perfect XD

[@orius]

4:35 WHY DID THAT PAUSE SYNC SO WELL WITH LINUS' VOICE

[@MichaelCrimmins1]

Probably the first LTT video I have left a dislike on lol.

[@clayskii]

Same

[@juracan8591]

My first was the RTX 3090 8k gaming Nvidia sponsored video

[@SMACKYOURB1TCHUP]

What about the sponsored mining video

[@rasungod0]

Jensen: "Look at me, I'm the scalper now!"

[@petersutton2182]

In all honesty Linus, I agree with many of the comments. Your assessment of this card goes against what almost every other reviewer sees.Certainly in future will be wary of your recommendations. I don't think this review did any good to your standing as a serious neutral reviewer.

[@sfdjk]

ltt is more an entertainment channel not for serious buying advise, just watch gn for serious coverage

[@CommandoTM]

seconded

[@SuperMegaSheep]

This video reminded me of the importance to consult several sources when making a purchase. I thought this review was superficial and lacked any deeper analysis that would help a potential customer to make a well informed decision. The situation the tech space is in right now is tricky, but that does not mean tech giants should be absolved from deceptive and anti-consumer behaviour.

[@ariel88579]

That is why I only trust Gamers Nexus. He roasted NVIDIA hard on how much the 3080 ti is overpriced and is just a money grab.

[@nxtktube]

LTT is far from TECH reviews nowdays, just an entertainment channel and products showcase. To get real stuff go to Anandtech's Dr.Ian Cutress and GamersNexus Looks like their integrity ends when they need to pay salary to 30+ people and make 17 low quality half ass videos a week.

[@SoriPop]

@@ariel88579 Also Hardware Unboxed.

[@sadsismint]

@@nxtktube "LTT is far from TECH reviews nowdays, just an entertainment channel and products showcase. To get real stuff go to Anandtech's Dr.Ian Cutress and GamersNexus Looks like their integrity ends when they need to pay salary to 30+ people and make 17 low quality half ass videos a week." Totally this.

[@mixedup5858]

@@nxtktube yeah not everyone want spend half an hour

[@justitgstuff5284]

Such as pointless card. They should've just used the extra supply space to make more 3080s or 3090s. The 6900xt makes it look even worse.

[@kanecassidy9126]

How were you listening this. 3090 is made of two 3080ti-s, so you get two cards instead of one this way.

[@TesserLink]

Did you even watch the video?

[@xruud24]

@@kanecassidy9126 you fell for it

[@suntzu1409]

@KingOfGorillas very much. 3080s have smaller sillicon area. Smaller sillicon area = cheaper Also smaller sillicon area means more products made More products = more efficient manufacturing, assembling and shipping = more cheaper

[@christopherfortineux6937]

@@kanecassidy9126 3080ti is made of the exact same die as the 3090 but they fused off the bad parts. And can't even meet the competition on price. The OP's point is they would have benefitted on not even launching this because the 3080 is easier to produce because the entire die is smaller and the pcb is smaller aka a lot easier to produce more with. They cannot even meet demand right now

[@dwordbovob9844]

'Refreshing change of attitude' HAHAHA

[@BossunEX]

Thats Linus for ya, he doesnt even try to hide it anymore

[@JIAroJIy4]

Yup, yet another reason I stopped watching his channel. Only crazy projects of his may interest me a little bit. But what happened couple previous months? Nearly 50% of videos were "Linus builds X" out of components mere mortals with price/perf focus can't even buy. I think this is my last visit to his channel. Was fun while it lasted.

[@GanerioAditya]

@@JIAroJIy4 who asking ? no one really care,the world doesnt spin around you

[@SlangJeezy]

@@JIAroJIy4 If the content doesn't suit you, then move on. He's got mouths to feed as well as a decent amount of employees to take care of. Almost no one wants to see 2060 super builds with last gen hardware, and even THOSE components aren't readily available. It's almost impossible to walk into a store or go online and just buy ANY graphics card that isn't a PNY Quadro. Is that the type of content you want? Even a price to performance build is impossible to get ahold of for most people, so why bother? Far more people would rather watch a video featuring a Ferrari than a Toyota. It's mostly entertainment with a sprinkle of knowledge/instruction mixed in. You're upset at the market situation, almost everyone is. At the same time, even if the parts were available, how many 3060 ti / AMD 5600X videos can you watch? I grabbed a 3090 when I could. Did I want a $2000 graphics card? No, I would rather have had an $800 3080, but I bought what was available, and I couldn't be happier honestly. I haven't had to fight long lines for a GPU, I've had the best performing GPU available, I'm gaming at 4K on an OLED TV at 120hz, and I'm extremely grateful that I am in the position to do so. But this is a luxury item, and I can't get mad at a youtuber who has NOTHING to do with the current market situation for making videos about a product that is non essential to the majority of people trying to get it.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

@@GanerioAditya He is if you were of tech channels and these are tech channels. Tech channels do care about what viewers think

[@reezlaw]

That ratio is really not great for LTT standards, I wonder why

[@Icureditwithmybrain]

I unsubbed from Linus when he did the nvidia sponsored 3090 ad. From that point he was no longer a legit reviewer to me. He's an influencer now, paid by companies to influence sheep.

[@mortcog4767]

just got done watching Gamer Nexus' review of this, and wow are they different

[@luisenriqueperezperez3193]

Because Linus did it before the price was announced.

[@jamesnail7183]

It seems you've been setting high on your golden throne so long you forgot the job of the reviewer should be to look out for the average customer, Jay and Steve still seem to remember this.

[@ChairmanZhongXiNa]

2020: Damn I want the RTX 3060 2021: See, RX 580? I was joking about letting you go...

[@ballsofplastic]

The 3080TI is literally more expensive than a literal motherboard and 2 Intel i9 10900k's or 3 Ryzen 7 5800x's...

[@leonardocalderongarcia2419]

If AMD SFR turns out to be good we might last a little longer with our rx 580 and rx 570

[@Involuntary_Celebrate]

a very solid sales pitch. great job

[@InternetEntity]

Really? Going by MSRP, the letters 'Ti' cost almost twice as much as the characters 'RTX 3080'.

[@NathansAirsoftAnd3D]

shot before msrp reveal. did you watch the video?

[@ddogwr83]

Not a good card by any means. Any.

[@GhaleonStrife]

@@NathansAirsoftAnd3D That's not an excuse. Gamers Nexus managed to account for MSRP, and their video came out at the same time as this one.

[@fionnmaccumhaill1023]

Unsubbed. The guy has been bought out. This card is 6% faster for a 60% price increase. Anyone paying over the odds for it and for any other card is literally creating the problem.

[@green4191]

I have to respectfully absolutely disagree. I'm with GN on this one. It's a hard no.

[@magnomliman8114]

GN is negative asf lately. cus of the more views call it '' they are whit the consumers'' if you like. but its all about mony.

[@supersaiyenunlimit2]

@@magnomliman8114 If you mean, telling it like it is is negative. Wait until you get into the real world.

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@magnomliman8114 Truth hurts. Reality is often not a bed of roses.

[@evolicious]

@@magnomliman8114 "negative", wow, imagine thinking statistical and scientific-based facts are some sort of negative point of view. It's people like you that are the problem in modern society. Go back to eating paint and crayons in the corner, you are not fit for logical discussion.

[@potato1341]

@@Son37Lumiere a bed of roses would suck tho so that's a good thing. Don't want to dig my side into a thorn.

[@Luchingador]

10:21 is he aware that the 6900XT beats this card in some games and will be cheaper when the 'dust settles' while saying this?

[@WAI-tp6pk]

No, he didn't know the Pricing before doing the video

[@joshuacorreia5600]

@@xxSWxxNINJA Apprently among insiders the price before the livestream was floating around the 1k mark, then that livestream happened

[@joshuacorreia5600]

@@xxSWxxNINJA but I gotta say this has probably been the worst review I’ve seen today

[@WAI-tp6pk]

@@xxSWxxNINJA Yeah, though to be fair this is not exclusive to Nvidia. The Pricing never seems to be revealed to reviewers before

[@wazxvicious75]

@@xxSWxxNINJA AMD rly made it clear at computex that they care for their Consumers

[@Allen_lena]

Consoles getting more attractive with each new graphics card that drops. Here I am sitting on my 10700k and gtx 1060 until there's something available and reasonably priced

[@oliverobrien693]

Im was so excited last year saving up to make my first rig yey. Then covid and shortages I am stuck with my intergrated graphics laptop. Ahhhh