Should MMA fighters learn more Jiu Jitsu?

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@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 2 ай бұрын
UFC started out as BJJ > all, then transitioned to Wrestling > all once wrestlers began learning submission defense, and is now currently Striker's /w good takedown defense > all. The meta is constantly changing and evolving. Striker /w good takedown defense is a top meta since the fight always begins starting on the feet.
@CaPnBaLlBaG
@CaPnBaLlBaG 2 ай бұрын
It's already starting to shift again to "Grapplers who can box". Belal, Islam, DDP, Topuria, Pantoja, Aspinall. Outside of Suga, the kickboxers are starting to fall off for more well rounded guys.
@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@CaPnBaLlBaG I think kick boxers / muay thai fighters who can grapple & defend takedowns will be the final meta. (The strikers must also have phenomenal footwork and angles and not be stationary to not get out grappled)
@CaPnBaLlBaG
@CaPnBaLlBaG 2 ай бұрын
​@@HowardJonesOfficial I think the final meta will be well rounded athletes who are great at striking and grappling. There will always be room in the sport for truly elite strikers like Poatan, but I genuinely don't believe you have to be a world class striker to be dominant in the UFC. Like I said above, most of the champions in the sport right now aren't elite strikers, they're just good to great. The rules and scoring criteria as they are just benefit grappling too much to ever really turn this into a true striking sport.
@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@CaPnBaLlBaG I see where you're coming from, but I think a fighter who has mastered striking (since fight starts on the feet) with good grappling beats a fighter who's just "really good" at striking and grappling. If the better striker has good enough grappling to negate the well rounded fighter's grappling, then the well rounded guy gets destroyed on the feet since that's where it starts. You will never be a world class striker & grappler simultaneously, so the better striker with efficient grappling will always win in the end since he can avoid the grappling and win in the striking.
@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@CaPnBaLlBaG Belal's kryptonite will be a superior striker who can negate his grappling, as for all of these guys with similar styles. Hence why it's a superior meta. If Poatan had super high level grappling and wrestling defense (although still less than striking skill), then a balanced & well rounded fighter isn't going to beat him because he wouldn't be able to strike or grapple with him without getting chinned. Rory MacDonald was super well rounded and looked like the future but still got outclassed by guys who could strike and wrestle better.
@christopherburns6403
@christopherburns6403 2 ай бұрын
The old school idea was that everyone needs to train bjj in the gi even mma fighters. That has slowly changed as people realized it’s just not sport specific and time could be better spent. I personally feel like we should take it a step further and spend less time (still some) doing no gi bjj and instead do more time in what I would call mma grappling. Gloves on simulating light strikes for most of your grappling training with some pure no gi bjj for supplement.
@Leon-bt7gw
@Leon-bt7gw 2 ай бұрын
that’s exactly how my gym is doing the mma program rn, very little traditional no-gi or gi jiujitsu, still some but a lot more wrestling, rolling with strikes, and wall wrestling
@Alienzzzs
@Alienzzzs Ай бұрын
@@Leon-bt7gwwhat gym
@Blindstoic
@Blindstoic 2 ай бұрын
B-Team has the right style for mma. Plus styles rise and fall, wrestling is on top now.
@boneytony5041
@boneytony5041 2 ай бұрын
How many ufc champs are wrestling based currently? I’m casual and just asking. I think 1 or 2. Is that fair to say?
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 2 ай бұрын
@@boneytony5041 How many current ufc champs are wrestling based? Probably most of them. I’d say wrestling is ranked above Muay Thai in most divisions. - Sean o malley is a striker and very tall for his division. Israel adesanya is also tall and lanky but for his division strikers are more common.
@boneytony5041
@boneytony5041 2 ай бұрын
@@C0d0ps Jones/aspinal, poatan, Dricus, Belal, Machachev, Toupuria, O’Malley, pantosha. Is it 50/50? Some amazing fighters in that list, sorry for misspelling.
@animadverte
@animadverte 2 ай бұрын
it has been 30 years of wrestling on the top. I guess some style come and just stay. As rule fo thumb, given a minimum BJJ, the wrestler with the best striking wins. we have repeatedly learned that now.
@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 2 ай бұрын
UFC started out as BJJ > all, then transitioned to Wrestling > all once wrestlers began learning submission defense, and is now currently Striker's /w good takedown defense > all. The meta is constantly changing and evolving. Striker /w good takedown defense is a top meta since the fight always begins starting on the feet.
@WeNeedComms
@WeNeedComms 2 ай бұрын
I would say initially yes. I’m personally surprised that we don’t see more leg-lock finishes in MMA.
@CoachMak
@CoachMak 2 ай бұрын
Why dedicate so much time to a position that leaves you on the bottom, getting punched, losing on the scorecards? They are easy to avoid in an mma context because there is no gentleman’s agreement of playing top/bottom and you have VERY little time to play when getting hit
@adkads27
@adkads27 2 ай бұрын
Cause while you’re trying leglock a guy, he’s punching you in the face
@davedave8608
@davedave8608 2 ай бұрын
exacto.. aka Gary tonnon in One FC​@@adkads27
@dirtygeazer9266
@dirtygeazer9266 2 ай бұрын
Risk to reward
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 2 ай бұрын
@@adkads27 Unless you’re palhares
@Dokkodomma
@Dokkodomma 2 ай бұрын
Thats why you do grappling with light strikes to the head to simulate a real threat.... for mma
@ZGOBRU
@ZGOBRU 2 ай бұрын
Enter bare knuckle MMA
@vicenzinu3668
@vicenzinu3668 2 ай бұрын
Bjj is turning into catch wrestling
@mork8144
@mork8144 2 ай бұрын
my game is definitely becoming essentially catch
@Los21x
@Los21x 2 ай бұрын
That’s a great video concept, escape in mma versus escape in sports no gi, some pure grappling nerds will realize Serious adjustments have to be made To their fight game once other Elements come into play.
@Combatr3ady
@Combatr3ady 2 ай бұрын
Jiu jitsu is actually alot of fun. Thought it was gonna be lame but it’s not.
@pussyhammer6969
@pussyhammer6969 Ай бұрын
I think it's gay.
@bin3skar237
@bin3skar237 2 ай бұрын
I know i sent this many times but i don’t know if you read it before so im sorry. Can you make 2 vids on juji Club on how to be a kickboxing & bjj coach? I've trained in both but I need guidance on how to coach my brother at home to be competitive with the gym kids. The vid should cover how you coaches know every techniques, using mitts, preparing us as future gym trainers etc.
@coachkajan
@coachkajan 2 ай бұрын
Camp and smash 💯
@paparadeliko
@paparadeliko 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if we were still allowed to grab the fence. Strikers would dominate so hard today
@ahmedmetwally1747
@ahmedmetwally1747 2 ай бұрын
Guys did ever mention if someone has a difference in leg lengths? I am 190cm with a 1.6cm difference in leg length. It’s basically a lot of instability and limits my performance
@kd3655
@kd3655 Ай бұрын
We've all rolled with an MMA guy who has been able to pin us very well. We need better pins in jiu jitsu
@handler803
@handler803 Ай бұрын
Hey coach heres a question: Should those who train BJJ (either competitive or hobby) do yoga on the side? It would seem beneficial
@b4dmaash
@b4dmaash 2 ай бұрын
Is there a video on camping position? Cant find anything... Thx
@Yaboiilordrhoop
@Yaboiilordrhoop 2 ай бұрын
Gordon’s most recent matches, very prominent against yuri, pedhro marinho, Patrick guadio, Josh Saunders
@homxra1301
@homxra1301 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got a question to ask. Why is that people with less experience tend to meet my level in wrestling and bjj I’ve got about a year in overall mma experience but people with a few months of training tend to still be a challenge for me. Do you have any tips on how I could fix this ?
@homxra1301
@homxra1301 2 ай бұрын
I know strategies they don’t and they almost rely on pure instinct and don’t focus on technique and it tends to still be a struggle.
@jonpicojones4032
@jonpicojones4032 2 ай бұрын
@@homxra1301sometimes, a high amount of athleticism can negate the fact that they don’t have skill, it usually becomes more apparent as they tire, and being technical, leads to being more efficient than your opposition.
@homxra1301
@homxra1301 2 ай бұрын
@@jonpicojones4032 understandable. The problem is I’m in shape and im not Un athletic I’m 15 years old. Is it that I done even have that much experience snyways and should I just continue training.
@jonpicojones4032
@jonpicojones4032 2 ай бұрын
@@homxra1301 you are younger than you realize my friend, you have just begun life and especially training, whether you realize it or not. Just keep training, and put effort into doing things over and over the right way, otherwise you’ll just get good at doing things in a bad way. Take your time, focus on refining techniques and the rest will come with time. You got it brother.
@seanmatthewking
@seanmatthewking 2 ай бұрын
Imagine you were training for a year in boxing and were sparring Mike Tyson in his first month of training. He's going to annihilate you. People are just born with different natural abilities. Some people intuitively understand the technique better than others. I'm no expert, but I think the only thing you can do is carefully pay attention and see where you are struggling. When rolling either someone and they beat you in some position, ask them to replay that position with you until you can pinpoint a mistake. Ask for the trainer's help in pinpointing your mistake. You could ask to film some rolling sessions and then ask the trainer to review the parts where you are stumped. Become a scientist.
@vynongaming553
@vynongaming553 2 ай бұрын
Hey thats me. Inside camper
@overtblowfish4439
@overtblowfish4439 2 ай бұрын
not really, it seems to me like defense (all martial arts) is most important
@lahrill
@lahrill 2 ай бұрын
Google "George st.pierre coach"
@mavymcmicahmiller
@mavymcmicahmiller 2 ай бұрын
Jiu jitsu in MMA is so low level
@aidenog7380
@aidenog7380 2 ай бұрын
Fr some guys don’t even know mount escapes lol
@Reflectionmaterial
@Reflectionmaterial 2 ай бұрын
It all changes a bit when someone can smash your face. Most Jiujitsu suddenly no longer works.
@jacobwooten977
@jacobwooten977 2 ай бұрын
Well to put it into context bjj is trying to play chess with guy playing wack-a-mole Getting hit in face changes you idea of what works Jiu jitsu works well against untrained people but knowing enough to avoid positions and escaping along with being able to the punch the grappler A lot of jiu jitsu guys play off there back and thats one the worst position when it comes to taking a punch, the patient game vs risk and reward is often unbalanced If you could break fingers in MMA it would be a different story. Take away the hands it game over for opponent but the rules limit your viable options
@OriginalPainX
@OriginalPainX 2 ай бұрын
Bjj is becoming more useless in MMA as time goes by, Islam destroyed Olivera with wrestling and now Periera double champ using 0 grappling
@themohas3243
@themohas3243 2 ай бұрын
Useless? He submitted Oliveira with an Arm triangle which is a bjj move lool
@vicenzinu3668
@vicenzinu3668 2 ай бұрын
It's not becoming useless it's turning into catch wrestling catch wrestling is freesty wrestling with submissions
@misinfluence
@misinfluence 2 ай бұрын
Just be an amazing wrestler and the best striker in the mma and you’ll be fine
@dirtygeazer9266
@dirtygeazer9266 2 ай бұрын
​@@vicenzinu3668I feel like catch is more closely related folk style since they reward you more for control over how explosive and amplitude you are trying to achieve in freestyle
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 2 ай бұрын
Islam makhachev is using mostly judo and bjj to win. Although his striking is very good. Khabib was much more of a wrestler compared to Islam.
@TOrganic
@TOrganic 2 ай бұрын
No way! BJJ is boring to watch unless you fighting like Khabib ground, and pound style. No one doesn’t want to see dudes rolling on the ground.
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