SHOULD Notre Dame HAVE TO join a conference? | College Football Enquirer

[@Jumbo-D]

Should conference teams HAVE to declare their independence and stand on their own two feet? Lets see all these big programs from any conference do it on their own. Yeah, no takers. For a good reason. No other team, other than Notre Dame can do it.

[@ma2728aldrtfl]

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[@mjdunlay]

Just so you know Ross read your history and see how many times Notre Dame applied to join the Big 10 and they voted not to let them in. A lot of it was anti-Catholicism by Fielding Yost of Michigan. Now after repeatedly turning down their application to the Big 10 they want Notre Dame. If I was Notre Dame I would do the same thing and stay independent. Notre Dame has done just fine not being in a conference so why fix it if it ain't broke.

[@cfishel15]

Gotta love housekeeping! Hilarious! Thanks for the much needed laughs!

[@michaelmorris6406]

I never hear anyone ever say. U Mass needs to join a conference. Are U Conn needs to join the conference. You never hear that. Just Notre Dame. I'm so sick of hearing it. It's not going to happen. As a matter of fact they're going to stop with the conference championship games soon. And then what is everybody going to have to b**** about. Being in a conference is overrated. Teams join conference so they can pool their resources. Notre Dame doesn't need to do that. They have enough money to do what they need to do without turning a conference. Go Irish 🍀

[@gregorymcgaughy4390]

Why is everyone worried about ND joining a conference. For the past few years, all I heard was that ND is not that important who care about them.

[@christopher7763]

Because it’s an obvious advantage for them to play one less game and in turn have a bye week while everyone else plays a conference title game that affects seeding etc

[@likecake]

​@@christopher7763no one forced teams to join a conference. If they think not being in a conference is an advantage they all have the opportunity to leave. However, not many could survive without being in a conference and for some, the exit fees would destroy their athletic department. Sounds like people regret their bad choices of joining conferences

[@tkaki6029]

@@christopher7763at least 4 teams every year won’t be playing for a conf title. What does it matter if ND is one of those?

[@earlslogan2831]

@@christopher7763 Hence they can't have any higher than 5th seed. If you're not whining about one thing you're whining about another. The other schools could have chosen to be independents. They didn't. Their choice.

[@jesserp23]

I think James Franklin could talk all day long about the history of whatever the hell the topic might be

[@SKPanda1915]

Notre Dame $50 CBS(?) deal, $20 mil ACC tv contract plus the Sugar and Orange Bowl winnings goes ONLY to Notre Dame, why would they go to a conference?

[@DJ7mph]

I read Dan's article on this. Really good article.

[@Chewy-qg3ir]

If ND wants to join a conference they will join one! In the meantime let the Golden Domers stay independent. Apparently they doing just fine! Schools mad they don't have to split revenue 😂😂😂😂😂!

[@a.j.adderley786]

That's what it's REALLY about.

[@wadegarrett2376]

It's great. "Notre Dame will never make the playoffs if they don't join a conference....they must join". Now they make the playoffs "Does ND have an advantage by not being in a conference??". Pick a side, haters

[@GaryIndiana46402]

Conferences are a detriment cause each conference is top heavy and rest of the teams are mediocre at best thus affecting SOS.

[@makerbayfield5262]

Such an annoying conversation every time. NOTHING IS STOPPING OTHER TEAMS FROM GOING INDEPENDENT. Other schools just care too much about money and TV deals. Why the fuck would anyone want to punish ND for valuing tradition and football over revenue. People just love to whine bc they’re jealous

[@MiniTheEngi]

havent watched the video.... short answer: no.... long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@Surge308]

IF ITS SO GREAT, WHY DOESNT (INSERT SCHOOL HERE) DO IT?! Honestly, it’s so fucking old with the conference thing. Give it a rest already and figure out something else to talk about

[@GeronFletcher]

I’m glad ND is staying independent! Lots of great teams used to be independent like Penn State… Miami in the 80s when they were unstoppable! They were indie

[@brendancordial3483]

Make us. Money talks. Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. Go Irish!

[@NichoD3]

I’ve been a ND fan for 40 years of my life. I haven’t thought every year is our year. It’s happened maybe 5 times in the last 20 years. I love that ND isn’t in a conference. I like that they play Miami, USC, Georgia, Michigan, etc. it’s awesome the variety of teams they schedule and would hate that they played Purdue, Minnesota, Iowa every season. How boring.

[@DennisMurphy-l3c]

I simply don't understand the angst over what ND is doing or not doing. Every school out there made a choice at some point to join or not join or move or not move. ND values its independence and is doing everything it can to maintain it, even though it's been getting eaten bit by bit since the 90s.

[@JamescarthyBoylan]

Unfair advantage how we HAVE to go at least 11-1 to be entertained in the playoffs conversations teams in conferences can loose 3 game and still make a conference final and win a conference and still make playoffs..stop talking 💩

[@GeronFletcher]

ND gets to keep all 14 million from the sugar bowl win and all 20 mill from the orange bowl win 🤑

[@arsee4]

The answer to this question is no. Independence allows ND to schedule as they see fit and it makes financial sense for them. It's hypocritical even to suggest it. All these teams during realignment have been chasing $$$ and jumping conference to conference and now, because ND is having success in the CFP, their status is a problem? Penn State and Miami used to be independents. Miami jumped the Big East to chase $$$. Give me a break. UConn is an independent and absolutely nobody is crying about them to join a conference. Army and Navy were independent up until a couple of years ago and nobody cared. This is all self interest BS. If I'm not mistaken as well ND had applied for Big Ten memberships twice and got blocked by Michigan.

[@philgates9876]

I don't see how Texas can beat Ohio State but Tennessee's D was terrible and Oregon doesn't have one so it'll be interesting if Texas D can stand up. Howard gets rattled when pressured, especially if hit hard like he was at Michigan. People put the blame on the coaches with Michigan game but that isn't completely true. Having said that still expect OSU to win handedly

[@noelmoreno2173]

Love the pod but Dan’s take on NIU was pretty disrespectful. If you have such little interest in the move why even mention it.

[@Aart.Vandelay]

Yes. Either they join a conference or the conference championship game should be removed. Imagine if Penn St or Texas were seeded lower than ND for playing and losing an extra game. The current structure is definitely more of a punishment for those teams who make CC game. Having said that, i do think not being in a conference isn't the rosy option that everyone thinks it is. The margin for error is considerably lower for ND than any B10 or SEC team. Had they dropped one more, i won't be shocked if ND would've not made the playoffs so there's definitely a price that ND pays for not being in a conference so there's that.

[@likecake]

Penn State and Texas should have been seeded lower than ND. That championship game not only guarantees a spot in the playoffs but gives you a first round bye. The conferences are guaranteeing themselves the payouts that come with quarterfinals and give them a better potential for the semifinal payouts. The BS part is having a committee pick whoever they subjectively want for the 8 remaining spots in the playoffs. Better solution, get rid of the byes, use computer rankings, only top 8 get in. Everyone else, be quiet.

[@Aart.Vandelay]

@ Absolutely not. You have it all twisted. PSU and Texas were ranked higher than ND at the end of regular season. I believe Texas was the second seed, Penn St 3rd and ND 4th after 11-1 record. Now they have to play an extra game and if they lose, they slide below a team which sat on the couch? Nope, not fair at all. Secondly, only the winner of a conference championship game is guaranteed a bye, not the loser. It's nobody's fault that the seeding system was all messed up this time round (and not the committee's fault) but i trust that would be fixed moving forward. I agree with your last sentence wholeheartedly though. 8 is enough. Get rid of conference championship games too while you're at it and just have them meet in the quarters, semis and finale without anyone getting a bye.

[@travishansel6060]

ND bet on itself, and it paid off. Everyone else took the easier route, the more guaranteed route, and now they’re crying fowl.

[@GeronFletcher]

These conference championship games are money grabs, and unneeded. You all just started doing them about 15 years ago for extra cash. How about the regular season champion is the champion. End of story

[@IrishNDF]

If any team could pull the National and Worldwide broadcasts ratings ND does they would resign immediately from their conference and sign a ND NBC type contract…no one else is close so none issue…just business

[@bradbowlin3515]

Why join a conference? Seriously? Why? They would be dumb to join a conference. Where is the rule that says you have to be in a conference?

[@RSeaker]

No. Army, Navy, Stanford, Miami OH, FSU works out just fine.

[@ryannorman5459]

They use to make fun of us because we're independent. Now they're crying

[@garyb2392]

I’m NOT going to listen to this dumb and tired narrative! So NOT never will subscribe to your show. Notre Dame is one of there reasons there is a playoff in the first place ! They have a seat at the table…you’re welcome !

[@GT1004]

They never get a bye because in not in conference. That's their penalty

[@natechapton7834]

Nope not unfair. Sick of ncaa trying to force everyone into 2 super conferences. Your smaller schools will never get a chance again. I’m sick of schools that belong to an elite conference (Alabama) 11-3 still ranked #11……………..getting smashed by unranked Michigan 6-5. But, getting held up high still bc sec/espn/refs/list goes on and on.

[@likecake]

It's not the NCAA trying to push teams into 2 super conferences. It's the SEC, B1G and ESPN trying to create a professional league for college age kids (it's almost like the NBA D League). They are trying to separate the sport from being an amateur sport played by kids getting an education and a professional athletic association.

[@Chewy-qg3ir]

PSU used to be an independent

[@gavinsheridan4680]

If any other school COULD go it alone & have their own TV contract, they would. Jealous whiners, the lot of them.

[@needmorecowbell6895]

The clearing house idea has no shot in court.

[@joeedge576]

Let the domers stay independent until they become totally irrelavent....

[@danwillis7191]

Well since that never going to happen, I guess you're just going to have to cry along with everybody else.

[@calebbryson-tt3ti]

ok so psu had played a conference championship and had an extra loss. So if ND went to a conference championship[ and lost, you all would be satisfied🤷‍♂? Dont get the logic.

[@fadedexile]

Ohio State has played the number of games as Notre Dame. Ohio State shouldn't be in the playoffs. See how stupid you all sound?

[@FurlogTheGiant]

Was it ok for Penn State to join the Big10 ? Would it be ok for Penn State to leave the Big 10, maybe spending a year as an independent and then joining the SEC? Or not. Then why can’t ND enjoy the same freedom? They want to sue ND? Disturbing

[@philgates9876]

Love is out and there goes ND's edge, I think Penn State knocks them off.

[@danwillis7191]

So much for your theory.

[@philgates9876]

@@danwillis7191 True although I thought PSU out played them everywhere but at QB, Two plays specifically Allar had wide open receivers down field and missed them both by a lot. Both if somehow didn't go for TD's would have setup easy FG's.

[@leonardwest2623]

No

[@Willie-C]

Ah the age old question......

[@kurtgellert9166]

Ross "Money Line" Dellenger

[@qdawg1509]

Keep crying about Notre Dame because your teams could not be independent Notre Dame makes quite a bit more than any team just a sample beating Georgia they made 14 million when Georgia would have had to share it with the rest of teams in SEC and they made 20 million beating Penn State when Penn State would have to share with the big ten teams

[@rickylenczewski468]

Notre dame , join a conference. You play 6 ACC teams every year, which could be considered the worst power 5 conference… you’re no longer a national able to or choose to play in every timezone for your 12 games a year on a yearly basis. NCAA should treat you as a group of 5 team until you join a conference. You had a good season. And deserve what you have. But until you join, a 10 win ND team won’t make a playoff and justifiably so.

[@NDMatador]

Notre Dame would much rather keep our independence than have a stronger chance of making the playoffs with a 2 loss season.

[@gilescaver8841]

Only if the ESPN/SEC and Fox/Big 10 networks form a super conference

[@rickylenczewski468]

@@NDMatador I can tell you now it’s the same chance as a 9-3 bama team in getting in

[@danwillis7191]

That isn't true. Notre Dame can make the playoff with 10 wins.

[@rickylenczewski468]

To all who replied to this… you would be left out for the Indiana , SMU and Miami if they had made it in. You never make a sechdule hard enough around Your ACC 6 games a year… Alabama brand is bigger than you, and they couldn’t even make it in over SMU and the likes… being in a conference gives you a better “benefit of the doubt” compared to your schedule . And face it, Purdue is still bringing in more money this year than ND even with 14ish million from the CFP payouts …

[@timcepin3386]

NO.

[@patrickgrieco1121]

No compelling argument to do so. Also...Notre Dame is a data point...ground truthing if you will, between all the conferences and contributes to racking and stacking playoff participants, SoS etc. Playoff Paycheck is pretty sweet...lol

[@davidfloyd9134]

I am not a ND fan, but I would prefer they join the Big10 or Big12 just to piss off ESPN.

[@sococomfort22s34]

If they join a conference unfortunately it would be the ACC more than likely

[@JoRa-rb9kz]

Penn state 20 ND 14 , OSU 37 texas 21

[@danwillis7191]

Not so much.

[@JoRa-rb9kz]

@danwillis7191 😁

[@WhoTFisPaulFinebaum]

Look, football fans argue about literally everything. So let's remove any and all possible points of contention. Notre Dame should be forced to join a conference, just like everyone else, or they are not eligible for post season play.

[@johntucker5994]

Communist! 😂

[@GeronFletcher]

I’m glad ND is staying independent! Lots of great teams used to be independent like Penn State… Miami in the 80s when they were unstoppable! They were indie