Should Primates be Kept as Pets? | Dan O’Neill Investigates | BBC Earth

[@maverick2560]

Big fat NO. Nothing is more "cringe" than seeing videos of people parading their "exotic" pets around, especially primates, wild felines, etc. Bad enough it's this common on KZbin to see, but god forbid someone says a swear in their video or discusses serious but daily topics. 100% ban it + raise the punishment for smuggling and abuse already.

[@gloriagates6976]

People just don't understand how much harm they are doing to these Primates there are wild animal and should never be kept as a pet there's a pet thank you for making this I hope people watch it and realize don't do this to these poor primates

[@tinsticker9884]

every dog and cat has its origin in such a situation

[@whitneythompson8698]

@@tinsticker9884dogs and cats are not like monkeys. Everything about a monkey is what a dog or cat lacks. Please do not compare them and rewatch the video

[@lorlorslinger9617]

I fully support Alison Cronin & Monkey World's campaign to stop the primate pet trade. They absolutely should not be kept as pets, their mental, physical & nutritional needs cannot be properly cared for in a domestic environment.

[@nunya3202]

Great organization!

[@Sirianstar10]

Exactly! Monkeys are not pets! The end!

[@MrMillander]

The answer is NO.

[@MLG_boyYT]

I agree cause 1. Primates are not surpossed to be pets 2. They need to live there own nature home 3. They are very hard to keep as a pet. But they are cute most of the time but primates and gorillas can be aggressive by attack ness

[@TimothySlickback]

I'd argue unless you can actually domesticated it, no born to be wild animal should be kept as a pet.

[@thatsmypizzaroll]

Yes

[@MLG_boyYT]

@@TimothySlickback yeah

[@jbuddyman]

Humans are the only primates that can be domesticated unfortunately

[@Leepbby]

Just because you could doesn't mean you should....🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒🙊🙉🙈🥺🥺🥺🥺❤❤

[@Bigbillyrayfan]

Like any pets.

[@whitneythompson8698]

@@Bigbillyrayfanyou obviously didn’t watch the video. You’re the reason why the trade exists 😢

[@Bigbillyrayfan]

@@whitneythompson8698 I’m not sure why KZbin keeps deleting my comments. That’s quite accusatory. I’m an outspoken anti-animal-trafficking advocate. I wrote up a whole explanation but KZbin didn’t like it I guess??

[@petrescuework-difficultcas6581]

I'm glad I live in a country, where you aren't legally allowed to buy a monkey without a license. Social media really has brought the worst out of people and will have a huge impact on the animal world and rescue organizations.

[@danieldevito6380]

Social media hasn't just negatively affected animals, but the world itself. Social media is the most destructive creation since the atomic bomb. I'm not being hyperbolic either. There hasn't been a single creation in the past 75 years that's done more harm to this world than Social Media. It truly brings that ABSOLUTE worst out of people.

[@joshriver75]

I'd be willing to bet you'd have more freedoms to aquire a monkey, legally without a license than you realize. And requiring licensure does very little to reduce the black market trade or prevent bad owners from becoming legally licensed. Social Media ALSO brings out the best. There are many social media channels that supply good educational information on what its like, what to expect and how to care for. Honestly say who and why you shouldn't have a pet monkey. This alone will reduce the amount of people that would otherwise make an uninformed decision and end up unable to properly care for and ultimately abandon. Social Media is also the primary resource for raising money and awareness for primate rescue centers. Unless you're advocating for some kind of euthanasia, we still need good people to put pet monkeys in the best possible situation. If you only want to acknowledge the worst people, then the worst is all you'll find.

[@petrescuework-difficultcas6581]

@@joshriver75 My country has animal protection law. This comes with a catalogue of every animal imaginable and what requirements you must have to obtain such an animal. Having a monkey in your living room in a bird cage is never a legal option here. Sure you can somehow import one illegally and have the luck to not be caught when you cross borders. But also then you needed food, equipment and sometimes a vet. And that's where your bubble would burst. Pet monkeys is, gladly, no issue in my country. And no, SM channels showing these animals and telling what their downsides are, sadly don't repell the viewers. Many only see a cute video, or see a clip of the video without narration. Or don't listen to what is said and only see the cute animal. Or simply think "Well but I can do it better". That's why these comment sections are full of people who want to buy one themselves. And it's a huge difference, if a rescue center shows their primates in actual habitable living conditions and raises awareness and funds, or if people have a pet monkey in their living room and then tell others "But YOU shouldn't, because it's a bad idea. WE on the other hand CAN have one, because WE are better than you are". This was never something that held anybody back. They just show "its technically possible, the monkey is cute" and yeah they also talk a bit about downsides, but people who would actually be alarmed by downsides, wouldn't even consider getting one in the first place. If this couple actually cared for raising awareness, they'd have given the monkey to a place where it could live under proper conditions. And then support this place.

[@joshriver75]

@@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 Im gonna go ahead call you on your BS!!! Not saying it's right but, It is completely legal in nearly every single english speaking country in the world to be able to do what you said you can't. There is virtually no country on this planet that one can't easily stick a marmoset in a bird cage if they wanted to. I think you're just playing narcissistic poser games with your own social media, which probably why you seem to think only the bad exist!...its called "projection" Judging by your channel name, activity, comments..I would say you're only interested in trolling others from your fabricated high-horse, pretending to be some kind of rescue expert just to float your own boat. And to be clear..It IS also my opinion that people should NOT have monkeys as pets. So what are you ACTUALLY doing to support the rescue and wellbeing of primates with your 52 subscribers in the last 8 years besides making arbitrary comments on various animal channels?? Furthermore...ALL of the worlds legitimate top primate rescue and rehabilitation centers for primates use social media. maybe you just have a warped idea of what SM actually encompasses. But whatever..have fun with your fantasies i guess.

[@PixlyPenguin]

in my country there are no rules so you can legally keep a bear

[@soheilak6208]

This should not be allowed legally These animals do NOT belong to houses

[@danieldevito6380]

People would still do it, even if it was illegal.

[@62sy]

In that same boat, humans aren’t made for a huge society like most of ours. We have only evolved to interact with dozens of Same individuals… not thousands of strangers every month. However we still thrive, enjoy life and survive. We drink poison for kicks and jerk off to sooth our baser instincts. We aren’t much less wild then this animals. Yet we can function in a civilization. So can wild animals. Of course it depends on the animal, however after a few generations of captivity they can become just as adaptable as humans. Really it doesn’t matter what kind of environment an animal survives in. As long as they survive and pass on their genes that is the natural course of evolution. If Their feelings and current instincts are a detriment, the ones without will survive. Simply put subjective sentiment of good and bad makes no difference on an evolutionary scale. Matter of fact, in terms of evolution raising animals in a city preps them for the coming future of industrialized world where only animals that exist are kept for entertainment and food. Your argument is based on sentiment rather then logic and it’s utterly idiotic. It provides no logical reason as to why not raise animals at home… both the animal and the human benefiting. Human for their twisted desire of cute things and the animal for evolving in an environment that will be the dominant one in the future. At the very least it gives their species chance to survive.

[@danieldevito6380]

@@62sy Ok Dr Moreau

[@tinsticker9884]

you can surely breed monkey to be pets. just as we did with every other pet.

[@BelegaerTheGreat]

*And next they should outlaw having dogs because they're dangerous.*

[@axxa5000]

Primates keeping other primates as pets is kind of weird tbh

[@har3036]

And cruel.

[@creatureofvenice]

we know it's bad to keep them as pets so we shouldn't do it

[@dirtydigger3218]

Well there was slavery?

[@Bigbillyrayfan]

Pets are kind of weird

[@demus8757]

To answer this question: No, definitely not. They should be living free and undisturbed in nature.

[@slimebunny5700]

The story of the woman who got her face torn off should be a good reminder that it's a bad idea

[@joshriver75]

Yeah....wouldn't want to get your face ripped off by a pygmy marmoset!!! Maybe we should warn people with kittens about that man eating tiger. Let's leave that argument for the people who want to get a chimp!

[@ZenLoveX]

was about the say the same thing, that 911 call is a trip.

[@betchface752]

Exactly. When i heard about that story all i could think is she should have gotten a cat…

[@mammadingo9165]

Charla Nash

[@Azureblue25]

Of course that was a Chimpanzee, which is arguably the most dangerous primate to keep as a pet, but these people were keeping marmosets which have much less aggressive tendencies, but even despite that, I wouldn’t recommend keeping a primate as a pet for the same reasons stated in the video.

[@majesticuncasual186]

they should only be kept in those situations where it was as rescue and wouldn't survive in the wild once released. Also only by someone with actual veterinarian or related training.

[@danieldevito6380]

I don't believe that a person should have to be a vet or animal trainer to be able to take in a wild animal rescue. You make that a stipulation, you're quickly going to run out of enough people to take in the COUNTLESS wild animals that need rescuing each year.

[@womanofsubstance8735]

@@danieldevito6380 So, you think they should be kept by people who are ignorant of their physical and emotional needs and not equipped to provide either? Nice guy.

[@wrinklesandsprinkles]

Agreed 100%!!

[@danieldevito6380]

@@womanofsubstance8735 Funny, for someone with the name "Women Of Substance", your comments clearly lack all hints of substance. You don't have to be a trained vet or animal trainer to learn how to take care of different animals. There are COUNTLESS groups who take in animals and pick up the information as they go. There's a thing called Google now, you should try it and add some substance to your "knowledge". Unsubstantial Woman

[@FranzKafkaRockOpera]

@@danieldevito6380 It's true in abstracto that not all rescue animals require speciality care, but it's a strange comment to make under a video about monkeys, which overwhelmingly do need a very specific environment to thrive that most people are simply unable to provide.

[@joshuasharpe8047]

Honestly, if you're seriously looking into getting a monkey as a pet, what you really want is a day gecko.

[@hellgirl444]

what you really want is an actual human primate, just adopt or make a baby

[@catalinacurio]

I always wanted a Komodo Dragon, such a cool animal to take for a walk. Of course I wouldn’t dream of doing so. 😊

[@joshuasharpe8047]

Closest you can get is an Asian water monitor, or a blackthroat monitor. Both are smaller, but not by much, and a looooot friendlier, almost dog-like. The downside is that you need to add a room to your house with a heated pond to keep them happy!

[@joecamel919]

@@catalinacurio u don't want a komodo dragon. They suffer so badly even in zoos and I'm not giving u Peta bulls**t. They are prone to shutting down there amine systems. They need around the clock vet attention. Even zoos should not have them. For a simular sized lizard that makes a better (or less terrible) pet or zoo animal look up the Nile monitor.

[@catalinacurio]

@@joecamel919 Don’t worry, I would never try and keep a dragon in captivity. 😊

[@howlingwind1937]

Yes they're cute, beautiful, intelligent and I'd want one as well the way some of them are being portrayed on the internet. I don't believe that anyone should be able to have any kind of exotic animal whether it's a primate, tiger or reptile etc. The primates aren't little people in fur coats and eventually it'll turn nasty when they reach sexual maturity. They're either stolen from the wild, and kept for breeding and then the babies sometimes only hours old are stolen from their mums which is psychologically damaging for mum and baby.

[@ambermarie6763]

Every monkey/primate owner I've seen likes to dress their money up in toddler clothes and treats them like babies. I've seen owners having empty nest syndrome wanting another child as they're too old, or those strange people that like to have real-life-looking dolls; younger people in their late 20's early 30's having a monkey for a flex. Primates, especially males, are cute when they're younger but once they go through puberty they become dangerous with these hormones. It's not fair to the animal to live in conditions they're not meant to be in. When I see these videos I find the owners being selfish, they do it for them and their ego or their need to care for the animal, but it's just not meant to be.

[@nunya3202]

All too often, the motivating factor is money! KZbin, TikToc…videos bring in a lot of money. The epitome of cruel & selfish.

[@andrewbrendan1579]

Great comments about why people own monkeys and how they treat the monkeys. I once saw a video from a woman who owns a male Capuchin monkey. The owner's mother came over and went on and on talking to the monkey in super-high-pitched baby talk that nearly had my ears bleeding. I had to stop listening. That poor monkey having to be subjected to that abuse albeit unintentional. In another video the owner came back from the beauty shop after going from almost platinum blonde to dark brunette. The monkey saw her changed appearance, flipped out, having some kind of monkey hysteria, and actually bit the woman. I think the monkeys fangs had already been removed. If they hadn't been it would have been far worse. Elsewhere someone in a comments section made the observation that if you walk down the street with a dog no one particularly notices, but if you walk down the street with a monkey you get lots of attention. Owning monkeys as pets for enjoyment (if you enjoy changing diapers for 35 years) is selfish and egotistical and is destructive to the monkey.

[@ambermarie6763]

@@andrewbrendan1579 yes agreed, egotystical and selfish! they do it for themselves, rather than understanding monkeys are social creatures, and no that doesn't mean with humans, all the plastic objects and processed foods they feed them thinking it's just a treat and amusing to watch their expressions, is just wrong. there are so many monkey owners i've seen on tiktok and it's infuriating how all the comments are like aww how cute, it's like they just don't get it.

[@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz]

Short answer, No. Remember the chimpanzee the couple owned and bit her nose?

[@GutterWizard27]

not just bit, her entire face was ripped off

[@CharleneOrtizTraining]

@@GutterWizard27 and her hands were ripped off and the chimp gave her an infection and she went completely blind.

[@stoojona5119]

I don't think this is much different from owning and keeping parrots or other intelligent and social birds, in fact as a parrot would usually fly miles and miles in a normal day, id say caging them in your living room is equally bad. Its our egos as humans that make us do this, and its all for our gratification and very very wrong

[@juice6521]

There's a difference between owning a pet and owning a wild animal. Parrots don't need humans to survive the same way a domesticated dog does. I mean *technically* you can keep any animal as a "pet" but you can't really domesticate them to the extent that you can a dog or livestock.

[@tacitozetticci9308]

Parrots are a very special case though. They're 100% wild but they're so naturally social that the domestication works (if you're prepared) Of course birds are ultra expert level pets and only a tiny fraction of the population should keep them. Crucial point: parrots fly, period. That means that if you're not respecting that DAILY need, you're seriously putting their physical and mental health at risk. Clearly that's wrong and cruel, and it defeats the purpose of keeping the animal as a pet. But if everything is done right, you're actually giving the parrot a good, safe and loving life that's nothing like the horrors of the wild. It's also something that their lifespan will multiply threefold. Pets and people are good for eachother (if done right) especially for children. I wouldn't be the same person without my childhood pets, no doubt. It's an excellent exercise for love and care, and you'll also learn about the other side of the medal: responsibility, commitment, neglection. Become great caretakers and introduce your children to a pet, people! (A parrot owner)

[@danieldevito6380]

There's a special place in Hell for people who keep birds locked up in cages.

[@coeneschamaun1735]

YES! I know it's very common for large parrot /parrot-like birds to be kept as pets, but they can live a LONG time. How do we know if they are contented? How can anyone really promise to take care of it its entire life when they live so long?

[@CharleneOrtizTraining]

Omg I can't stand that people own birds. They're the only animal that can fly so we stick them in a cage because they're pretty . It's so selfish.

[@OllieTheMonkey]

DAN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK WITH US TO DISCUSS THE EXOTIC PET TRADE AND HOW MUCH WORK OWNING A PRIMATE TAKES. WE HOPE TO SHED LIGHT ON THE UPS AND DOWNS OF PRIMATE OWNERSHIP, AND SHARE OUR EXPERIENCE OF RAISING A RESCUED SQUIRREL MONKEY 🐒💕 WARMLY, NATASHA, LUKE, & OLLIE THE MONKEY

[@hellgirl444]

he should be in a conservation center NOT WITH YOU how ridiculous

[@hellgirl444]

@@OllieTheMonkey Nonsense, I'm sure there's plenty of conservation centers and sanctuaries that would accept him but instead you make videos treating him like a pet, you're promoting the pet trade. Your most watched video is "5 things to know before getting a pet monkey" why do you think that is? You're even taking him to starbucks jesus christ. Yes you're treating him better than other people who have pet primates but that doesn't mean it's right at all.

[@adampartridge1025]

@@hellgirl444 exactly my point they say there not pets but parade them around in public there is 100 percent a sanctuary out there what would take the squirrel monkey and put them in a suitable environment not in these peoples home with a nappy on

[@OrganicBench419]

@@OllieTheMonkey you know that's not true you chose to monetize "ollie" instead of doing what is right

[@LukeOutLoud]

judging by the numerous comments @mil has made i can assume they have no idea what happens when sanctuaries simply have no room. They rehome them as often as possible, sometimes for $$ sometimes for nothing. Mil literally has ZERO frame of reference lol Anyone can regurgitate the comments youre making, You just sound like a miserable person 🤣

[@Cats2Fat]

Just have a baby already. Seriously. It’s probably less work.

[@BlitheApathy]

Ive seen so many people grab a baby monkey but when they see how they will never stop biteing (especially when they are hormonal adults) an only then realize they are *near* *impossible* *to* *rehome* - harder then parrots. I know of at least one case where the owners had to shoot their caputian to death after it attacked their kid comeing home to visit. Despite having its fangs ripped out she needed 8 stitches and put on antibiotics. They know to go for the fingers, face an even genitals if a larger primate. Its horrifying and rarely ever ends well... for anyone.

[@UKFishCam]

I really don’t think they should be, they need too much enrichment for a person to provide.

[@SUNya_7]

Any wild animal should not be kept as a pet …!!! why people are so stupid?

[@Kimber-Lee]

Many monkeys exploited and monetized all over KZbin. Often, the new owner claims they’re “abandoned” but in truth the mother was killed and baby brutally torn straight off the dead body. It makes it difficult to support monkeys as pets.

[@lorlorslinger9617]

Even when bred for the pet trade, the babies get removed from their mothers soon after birth to be bottle fed, to apparently make them easier to imprint on humans, therefore making them 'better pets'. It's barbaric.

[@startheangel9760]

Same for Meerkats too I have seen pet shops sell them despite them being just as complex as primates

[@bugloverspiderlover8490]

I’ve never seen one here,I’m sure there are breeders though,I know mongooses are kept as pets and need similar care to meerkats.

[@alexism7468]

Sad that this is a question :(. The answer is obviously no! I agree with comments I have seen where they should only be rescued and kept if they are unfit for the wild, and that only being by an official rescue, rehabilitation, and release program.

[@garrybowers414]

Should not be allowed 😠

[@edenswaterislife9214]

It is captivity no matter how anyone slices it. Soon people are going to be calling wild tigers homeless because their are more in captivity , than in the wild.

[@whitneythompson8698]

Lmao “homeless tigers” that was funny😂 but very good, excellent point though !!!

[@fjones8702]

Absolutely NOT

[@catherine_404]

As a child, I used to read and re-read Jerald Durrell's books, and these were a huge influence, an education into wild animals needs. Of course they are no longer a manual of zookeeping, after all, he would be almost a hundred years old if he was still alive, however, that look into the reality of taking care of exotic animals is still relevant because it describes the reality of facing wild and captive animals. I remember, his family actually used to keep some small monkey, and Durrell describes not only the highs, but also the lows and difficulties, including health issues, which they had to deal with. AFAIK, he is a pioneer of modern approach to zookeeping (breeding programmes, suitable environment and proper food, animal comfort etc. - animals as creatures first, entertainment second). He was against exotic animals as pets for same reasons as described in this video.

[@catherine_404]

@@l.m.1809 No, I don't mention that, but you are right, that's one of the issues. I think, that would be more dangerous to a monkey than to a human though. We are better equipped to treat humans than monkeys. You get a cold - a case of sniffles for a week, your pet gets your flu/cold - idk, they may die.

[@polemius01]

"Cute," and "cool" should not be the primary reasons for owning any animal!

[@mistywetzel3889]

Alot of people on tictok have baby monkeys in the United States .But I know once the babies hit puberty these people will get rid of them

[@GoogleAccount-so4ge]

go after youtube and insta … ban accounts like this, with money gone, this business will be done in a minute

[@danadanis2355]

Really sad to see them in cages 😢 they don’t deserve that! Beautiful undemestic animals.

[@dreamscomingtrue6424]

It’s so sad. I wish not. It should be required to have a certain amount of space and a certain habitat for them. I have seen how they’re captured and kept before taking them to other sellers. It’s so sad.

[@korrinschilling9909]

No, no and....no. I've been studying this, and monkeys do not make good pets. Ever!

[@An_Dulachan]

Absolutely not! Would you want a human as a pet?

[@NyanyiC]

Keep exotic animals in the wild please

[@dianehghzn7670]

Absolutely not unless they need rescuing from neglect or medical problems

[@bugloverspiderlover8490]

Monkeys are cute,but don’t make great pets. I don’t think I’d ever keep one. Changing diapers,getting bit,tearing up the house,high vet costs,ets,tarantulas are so easy,full water dish,and a few bugs a week and they’re good to go for up to 35 years!

[@beccac6451]

I am really surprised you did not go to Monkey world and talk to Alison. That is her and her late husbands mission is to stop the illegal pet trade and to get the government to put a stop to allowing people to own wild animals. She has the best set up for all the primates. They live as natural life as they possible can.

[@kellyheitmann5257]

I wish everyone who wants a monkey watched this as mandatory to get a license. The pet trade is horrible, how they get these babies is even worse. Many see their moms shot or killed right in front of them, or become breeding machines. It's horrendous!

[@pinkmonkeybird2644]

Domesticated animals are perfectly fine as pets as long as you care for all their physical and emotional needs. They’ve been bred for thousands of years to be our companions and have been adapted to that life by that selective breeding. Exotics and wild animals are NOT selectively bred for captive life, and it’s a terrible, stupid, and selfish idea to attempt to keep any. Primates are particularly poorly suited for pets. They are highly intelligent, require a specific diet, are extremely social, very active, and have a long life span. It’s impossible to replicate their normal habitat and social structure in captivity, so at best you end up with an aggressive, unpredictable, and mentally and physically unbalanced animal for 40 years. Not to mention the exotic pet trade is cruel and destructive.

[@colleenorrick5415]

How could you take that baby, Ollie, away from his mother at such a young age? Surely you know the cruelty that involves.

[@rachaelm7247]

no

[@Capelle6JBS6LOST6]

Sounds a bit as slavery.. Primates keeping primates...

[@spicyholo]

The only animals (pets) we should be allowed to Own. is Horses - Dog - Cats - some Fish types. These been domesticated over thousand of years. these pets are accustomed to a human life. and can live care free with us. other animals have a higher need then most humans can give them. so im agains it, for the greater good of the animals. but as professionals that rescue animals is a hole other specter. and i want them to continue to help animals. well thats just my opinion. have a great one all of you.

[@CharleneOrtizTraining]

Exactly. Dogs and cats love to be with us. There's an excellent documentary called "Dogs Decoded " that shows scientifically how connected to humans dogs really are. I've always had outdoor cats and everyday they come home even though they have the freedom to roam free they still want to come home.

[@donnawilson9271]

Before you decide to buy a baby primate, just remember that it's mother who these babies love and depend on had to be killed in order for you to satisfy your stupid, selfish need to have so you can brag to your friends about. It's cruel. When I watch this video I felt so sorry for this poor animal--it is an animal ya know. He looks sad. He should be with HIS family. Not a human family, living in a cage. Most ppl eventually get bored with them and then what happens to them?

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

Well this video was very needed,very interesting and informative

[@bryonyharper3490]

Who should you contact if you know of a monkey being kept wrongly as a pet ?

[@Anu007.]

They are wild animals and must be kept in wild

[@oliverm7138]

At the end of the day we shouldn't own any animals. I own a dog, two ferrets, a bearded dragon, a shebunkin fish and a giant African land snail. But I take care of them and love them like they are my children. I wouldn't part with them. But at the end of the day ethically it's wrong of me to own them in other people's eyes. But I love them. The ferrets and the dog love me. So I keep them.

[@CharleneOrtizTraining]

Dogs are actually meant to be with us and they crave human attention. There's an excellent documentary called "Dogs Decoded" that shows how connected to humans dogs really are. You shouldn't feel guilty having you dog. They want to be with you and spend their lives with you.

[@whitneythompson8698]

That’s why the word domestication is very important. Dogs are domesticated. Monkeys are not. Dogs depend on humans, monkeys do not. Your dog depends on you, monkeys depend on other monkeys

[@kieribama]

People just don't get it... I see all these monkey channels and people comment how they want one.... anyone that disagrees with these channels gets called a Karen or a troll. No, monkeys absolutely should NOT be pets.

[@Neith29]

Keeping primates as pets is akin to keeping a human as a pet. They are individuals who value their freedom and privacy just like we do.

[@dianehghzn7670]

This practice is inhuman and disgusting what is wrong with people these poor creatures thats why soo many are in terrible conditions in cages depriving them from their natural habitats and even if its rough in the jungles nothing would prepare them putting them in confinement in lonelyness without their families and pathatic food if they get fed not the right kind of food its like a crime really keeping a creature in any conditions does not make up in any way for their natural lives in the wild i wish people would wake up to them selves for goodness sake! !

[@Tiki-Magics-World]

Can you interview Alison Cronin at Monkey World in Dorset? She, her husband (may he rest in peace), and their friend Jeremy have been rescuing monkeys and apes for 40 years! A lot of them come from the UK pet trade. This place you're at is teeny tiny compared to Monkey World!

[@generationfallout5189]

I wish there were less pets and more free wildlife. More creatures that are free and independent.

[@gloriatg100]

What about animals that are already domesticated ?

[@Incredible43]

Absolutely Not! Keeping any wild Animal (Primates, Birds, Big Cats etc) is abuse plain and simple.

[@joecamel919]

Snakes?

[@Incredible43]

@@joecamel919 Yes unless it's a rescue and the Animal can't survive in the wild

[@joecamel919]

@@Incredible43 snakes make absolutely good pets. Almost as good as a goat. And believe me or be wrong. Goats are the best pets in the world.

[@joecamel919]

Whats wrong with having a bird?

[@lcaceci43]

These 2 have all the reasoning why you should't have a primate as a pet, and yet, they HAVE A PRIMATE AS A PET!

[@julianbaca2719]

4:45 You heard it here people there is no way you can have a primate as a pet and have a regular 9-5 job!! For all these channels owners telling their viewers they work and are going out of town on business but the monkeys stay at home and are still being filmed.. The dad is the camera man cause his wife and daughter are co-stars!!

[@indyreno2933]

There are over eighteen extant families of primates, Lorisidae (Lorises, Pottos, and Angwantibos), Galagidae (Galagos), Lepilemuridae (Sportive Lemurs), Cheirogaleidae (Dwarf Lemurs, Mouse Lemurs, and Fork-Crowned Lemurs), Daubentoniidae (Aye-Aye and Fossil Relatives), Indriidae (Indri, Woolly Lemurs, and Sifakas), Lemuridae (Common Lemurs), Tarsiidae (Tarsiers), Aotidae (Owl Monkeys), Challitrichidae (Marmosets and Tamarins), Pitheciidae (Sakis, Uakaris, and Titis), Atelidae (Spider Monkeys, Howler Monkeys, and Woolly Monkeys), Cebidae (Capuchins and Squirrel Monkeys), Cercopithecidae (Swamp Monkeys), Colobidae (Colobuses, Langurs, Snub-Nosed Monkeys, and Proboscis Monkey), Papionidae (Baboons, Mangabeys, and Macaques), Hylobatidae (Lesser Apes), and Hominidae (Great Apes).

[@dustintacohands1107]

Heck no monkey is to close to humans that’s disrespectful to call them pets in my opinion.

[@barnabascollins4625]

PRIMATES SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE KEPT AS PETS!!!

[@OsmanK699]

You want a pet, get a cat or dog. Any other animal should not be kept for that purpose. And even cats and dogs should have another greater purpose like pest control or guard duty, but not primarily as pets.

[@robertceliberti7175]

I like the work that monkey world does too. Here in New York it's illegal to own an ape. I don't know about smaller primates. They belong in the wild.

[@CarnisChampion]

I would like to own a racon or a racon dog but even if they are cute and funny I think it is better to let them be free. but if I ever move to a cabin in the forest and I will see if I can get them a bit tame. food should work fine :)

[@danieldevito6380]

You'll never truly tame a wild animal like a raccoon. You would literally have to be the first thing it saw upon open its eyes, and even then, they're still incredibly unpredictable. And a large raccoon can REALLY cause some damage to a person... Especially to a small child.

[@CarnisChampion]

@@danieldevito6380 very true I do not expect them to be like a pet. but as I have manage to make birds trust me enough to eat from my hand I figure I could do the same with racoons.

[@karinabrampt1556]

I'll add to that. DEFINITELY NOOOO! NEITHER ANY EXOTIC ANIMAL. THEY SHOULD BE LIVING IN THE ENVIRONMENT THEY WERE BORN FOR. NO APOLOGIES FOR THE CAPITAL LETTERS!

[@Jellyfish146]

I think people should hear the Charla Nash attack story before they think about owning a monkey.

[@lyric8006]

We could begin by not supporting these channels that keep primates as pets. By viewing & liking these channels we are in effect making it profitable for these folks to have primates as pets.

[@user-vp4nl2gg6x]

Absolutely not! I’m glad it is illegal to keep any kind of primate as a pet in California. At least I don’t have to worry about having to protect my indoor/outdoor cat from a demon monkey that escaped or was released. California farmers don’t have to worry about protecting their crops from them either.

[@taniawoodhouse6360]

No because when they hit puberty

[@sinine1100]

Whether primate or any other animal, it disturbs me how little research a lot of people seem to do before getting pets. You can't keep a goldfish in a bowl, you can't keep a betta in a jar, you can't keep huskies in 30°C heat, you can't keep little short-haired dogs outdoors, you need to clean your cat's litterbox clean and give her things to scratch, you can't keep a parrot alone for most of day, you can't keep rabbit in a hamster cage, and you can't keep marmosets alone in a cage that would barely fit four rats (no, really -- my rats had bigger cage than poor Jerry, and *they* could be outside for couple hours each day). Marmosets need to be in small groups and need enclosures big enough for a couple small trees.

[@joelsbowlsarejoelsgoals9636]

The idea of pets came from humans right? I don't think nature intended for us to do most of what we have done so to me the answer is no and it's also no to having animals as pets at all. None of the creatures including us were meant to do anything or be anything than what our genetic make up and Instincts told us to do. but with saying that nature didn't know what humans would turn out to be and how we would be able to break the mold and create more than what this planet could do on its own. Us choosing to domesticate animals to have as pets created the argument of whether some pets should really be pets or left as wild animals. It was all us. Humans. We have created most of our own problems. :)

[@tacitozetticci9308]

Nature doesn't "intend" anything, so that's kind of irrelevant per se. Peace, non-violence and prohibiting rape are unnatural things, so what? Screw nature in that case lol, we don't want it. But anyway countless species by now have been influenced to live with us down to the genetic level. For those, life in the wild is actually what would be "unnatural".

[@crystalharris7394]

If you truly love animals you will not make them your pet

[@judithm375]

I wonder what "zoo level standards" are.

[@Yui714]

We literally raise our primate children. If we can take care of human children then we can take care of animals. The problem might be that the word "pets" can be a bit derogatory. You wouldn't have pet primates.. you would have adopted family members of a different species. I've seen people take great care of primate pets. However, overall.. I don't generally trust people as pet owners for any species. I've seen a lot of dog owners abuse their pets and underfeed them. I've heard pet owners say that their pets don't have feelings and that they are "just animals" as if they are lesser creatures. I believe that humanity as a whole has an entirely wrong opinion on what consciousness is.. and the very notion that consciousness as we talk about it is a real thing hasn't even been proven (our belief stems from our desire to be better than other creatures). Both answers are right and wrong, and people don't like answers that aren't ideal. We should and shouldn't have pets. This should and shouldn't include primates. If I were to choose then I would allow primates as pets a long with many other restricted or controlled species. My reason is that we don't want a restrictive society and a lack of restrictions creates more experience, more content, more opportunity. It adds to the world whereas restrictions take away from it. But say you want to ban primates as pets or pets overall and I won't argue against that either. There's no right or wrong answer. Either way works. I feel like one way would add to the world though. An increase in demand for animals generally results in more being born. That means more animals get to experience life. Exotic pets would increase demand and create breeders. Just like demand for animal products such as meat and dairy has resulted in those species having a far greater population than they ever would have (not an ideal means to increase population and controversy rises when neither solution is ideal).

[@NyanyiC]

Even that rescue facility seems dodgy.. What happens in winter?

[@mystic7275]

I'd say time for follow up on this subject.

[@LeprosuGnome]

I guess it would be like having a baby for 30 years

[@FishHeadSalad]

I think we all saw what happened in the movie Conquest of the Planet of the Apes...1972 style. Apes started as pets, then became slaves, then conquered us! Lesson learned! If you ever run into a chimpanzee pet named Caesar....beware if the ides of March!

[@Fledermausmann]

Think about it, all this trouble and these are only the small monkeys... What more the apes? Gibbons or bonobos or chimps?? Honestly, the one animal I'd be most terrified of is the chimpanzee. Imagine a small human, with very similar emotions, moods but at about five times the strength. There have been some absolutely awful cases of chimpanzees just going beserk and tearing off people's faces, maiming them or worse. Even in the wild, chimpanzees are terrifying, they hunt smaller monkeys, sometimes cannibalise the young of other chimps - rival tribes. Its all fun and games to see someone pet a monkey or a slow loris but just don't buy or even support these people. I mean, the people featured in this video are relatively responsible and they say that its incredibly hard. I'd bet my bottom dollar that there are tons of essentially farms out there that poach monkeys from the wild, make some videos, make some money and then when the monkey dies, just go out to the wild and get another like they're picking up fruit at the market... Don't buy wild animals. If you wanna see them, go to the zoo. Or better yet, go to out into nature and see if you can spot them in their natural habitat. Worst comes to worst, David Attenborough has you covered. Just watch some of his marvellous documentaries.

[@swaygfx]

blame the zoo, start there

[@karimelby25]

The answer is no no no NO 0:28

[@magnetostwink389]

Absolutely not.

[@brianstephens1488]

Simple fact, all primates or monkeys are part of the animal kingdom. Through the one gift of intelligence, humans have domain over all animals. Opposable thumbs don't make monkeys any more valuable than a cow, dog, bear, or even a feline of any kind. Some people do enjoy having them as pets, but anyone can look anywhere in the world and see, from medical labs to Asian temples, humans will use or abuse them for the entertainment or advancement of the human race.

[@lionablaze8747]

no animal should be kept as pet.

[@ashoidantra1638]

Not sure about the whole black market thing… if it is in the black market and you choose to buy an animal, then it is illegal.

[@kimmithomas4249]

I think its awful keeping a primate as a pet, esp. apes.

[@maureenmurphy9857]

I say no to primates as pets. These poor babies are torn away from their mothers at a very young age. Thin of the psychological damage that it does to both of them. They both grieve their loss. I think that as well meaning as you are going to try to be, you can't replace a mum and a troop of monkeys. Sadly some of these babies face horrible abuse as well. I'm not saying by everybody but it does happen. In my opinion, if you want a pet, please get a domestic animal.

[@renaecrittenden5667]

No. We should have laws prohibiting humans from owning them as pets.

[@SuperSabeMan]

My main question is who ever would want to own one of those evil little monsters in their home

[@1Kent]

NO.

[@jackwood8307]

Very sad.

[@albamontoyabaena]

Of course not, but honestly, I'm keen of those accounts, but just because I think they are cute n hope they live in proper conditions

[@tonydipietro4225]

If primates made good pets, Harambe would still be with us. RIP. Gone not forgotten.

[@johnsullivan1948]

People think animals want to be "free" but animals don't really understand that concept. All animals care about is safety and food. Captivity gives them that. They don't want to have to roam all over to find food and shelter. All animals, like humans, would rather live in a society of sorts that caters to their needs. So yes, animals should be kept in captivity to keep them safe and from extinction.

[@ahmetkerem4769]

Well, certain socially complex animals do require and benefit from being in a group of their own species. But what you have pointed out is generally true for solitary animals. Especially ecthotherm animals such as reptiles as well as invertebrates.

[@johnsullivan1948]

@Karl Stein it is our duty to keep them safe since our ambitions destroy and change the landscape of the world. We are much MUCH smarter than animals, and that kills them. A fence on a many acre farm kills more deer than you might even think if you even think of such indirect consequences.

[@febo2367]

wrong, all wild animals want to be free, and they also play a role in their natural habitat, if we want to save them from extinction let's save their environment and leave them alone

[@johnsullivan1948]

@@febo2367 the earth changes and with it "natural habitats" the fact of the matter is that humans are changing the earth's landscape and environment and they won't stop no matter how much you cry about it. We are ambitious creatures. We will create pockets of environments, but we will take over the earth. The best thing humans can do is fill those pockets with animals and leave them be. Feed them and ensure they have safety. "Freedom" is a human concept. Does not apply to animals

[@hopebgood]

No.

[@bxhfud-47844-fgbxgbxgfd]

Thank you!

[@hadvarr8578]

NO, so glad you made this video

[@sir.636]

BBC trying to facilitate a moral discussion lol. The question is should animals be kept as pets. Pets today are just domesticated wild animals of the past. Think BBC!

[@Communist_Mark]

I won't name those prominent pat monkey owner's name on social media and YT... I'm sure everyone knows who they are.

[@dianaking2172]

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