Should Team Orders Be Removed From F1? | WTF1 Podcast #16

[@jtjorger]

In America we don't have any shows on that talk about formula 1 so this podcast is my savior!!! Thanks again!!

[@WTF1official]

Thank you for watching

[@tlanthony82]

I feel your pain. Try living in Alabama where it is a shame to watch anything other than Nascar.

[@JoshuaChew]

Pitlane Podcasts by Aarava is always great. You should check him out too while you're at it.

[@hichemboualdja628]

BIG FACTS!!

[@Hayden3210]

@@tlanthony82 dude, i live in the same state, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE

[@baguettemeister6032]

I'd hate to be Bottas this season, he's been so unlucky he deserves at least one win this year!

[@g.g.baxter4868]

he not in F1 to win one race, he wants to win the championship, to do that he needs a Merc, his best bet is to play the team game, keep improving his consistency which has been lacking but improving, hope he gets better luck/reliability, then next year make sure hes in the championship fight come the mid season break and try and do what Nico did,

[@Alumnikiid]

Hate to be bottas??? Imagine being Alonso

[@adityasantyawannugraha7217]

i think he will be given a free win in the end if the worldchampionship is on lock. but that's just sad :|

[@merlinbotha363]

G.G. Baxter he won't win a wdc

[@NikhilKumar-hz7nk]

If Lewis wins WDC before the end of the season Merc should make sure Bottas wins at least one race maybe even ask Lewis to let Valteri by

[@troll_486]

Yea

[@ExzcellionGamma]

Yeah he'll do that. it's also worthy to note that Lewis hasn't freakin' won a race after he secured his WDC.

[@troll_486]

yea, stfu, u hav anime prof pic

[@xviii2244]

Nikhil Kumar No! Hamilton needs to break Schumacher's/Ferrari's record

[@herozero8809]

It will probably be Abu Dhabi not gonna lie

[@robertmacphee5]

Podcast actually starts at 1:22 Edit: make that 3:22

[@enriquesilins420]

Thanks, almost clicked of due to pidgeon talk!

[@satinderdhindsa835]

Yea same. Too long of an intro

[@rodgercastro9607]

Thanks mate!

[@mercuriallover5]

If mercerdes are already 1-2 regardless who was at the front... is there the need for team order ... what kinda fuckery is that? Mercedes best interest was to win the maximum point..... if both driver are 1-2 ... why disturb it... Secondly luis having a battle with his rival contender what is so wrong letting that play out... As much like we like seeing competition rapped out fast .. is kinda boring if the same team wins or there is no fight from other .....

[@SM-uq1gh]

October 2nd 2018 Jess still looks fine. Hairstyle on point. (also for the silly season rumours - Kubica got the contract with new sponsors for bigger money background and K-Mag gave Haas 2 millions of income for next season, while Robert can afford for something around 8-9 millions)

[@urbanciber6839]

Kubica will never drive a f1 race again. get over it!

[@Kloptrip]

Never say never. F1 is not about world’s 20 best drivers.

[@dan._13]

Urban Ciber Well then

[@spoopyroll2063]

At 0:55 who have we spotted?? Is it Ali??

[@WTF1official]

That will be Ali!!

[@Dr4conian]

He just woke up after crying himself to sleep during the GP? rip hartley.

[@PaulHellion]

I think Jess is absolutely correct. Team orders are as old as the sport itself, and as long as its a team sport, they will always be used. Mercedes interests are purely in winning both championships. What the fans want does not, unfortunately, feature that highly in Mercedes list of priorities.

[@Alumnikiid]

Agreed Ferrari tryed to allow kimi to win the monza race but vettel was focus on overtaking his teammate on 1st lap that he ended up facing the other way. Had ferrari told kimi to let vettel pass and block Ham I am sure alot of ferrari fans would have been happier

[@TheMur28]

When your business model is dependant on people choosing to pay to look at your product (and the logos of other companies placed all over it) it is probably best to not do things that annoy those people and cause them to stop watching.

[@PaulHellion]

@@TheMur28 But, isn't Mercedes business model also dependent on being a succesful team? The sponsors will pay up if Mercedes win championships. Don't forget the amount of prize money Mercedes will get as champions too.

[@dennisweijzen8997]

Aaaaaand here comes jess defending hamilton again.... Now she just needs to hate on verstappen for nothing and she's fully back

[@samthompson2130]

I don't think they should ban team orders, but they need to adjust it so drivers like Bottas doesn't have to give up the position to there team mate. The Ocon and Perez orders are fine as it was to help the team get past the driver ahead.

[@g.g.baxter4868]

wouldn't work, cant have a rule that says something is ok unless ur winning, the only way to do it would be to enforce the idea that if team orders are used, they must switch back ie Hungary 2017, Ocon/Perez, but again unenforceable if there is drivers between them. Fact is Bottas isn't in F1 to win one race, he can walk away from the weekend knowing he was the best driver, and knowing what he needs to do next year - be more consistent, get better luck, make sure hes in the championship fight so Merc cant pick Lewis over him, Do what Rosberg did and win the championship, then one win wont matter a thing

[@clansome]

I expect Merc will pay him a win bonus anyway, not for team orders but because up to the point they switched he was odds on for the win. There again he was in Baku as well. Shit happens in F1 just ask Torro Rosso !!

[@samthompson2130]

@@clansome yeah but I'm sure Bottas doesn't care about money, he wanted that win.

[@oposoum]

Before a decade or more FIA banned team orders. After the teams find other ways to pass the message with the classic "X driver is faster than you". Now team orders are back again.

[@sunnyplanet9988]

I am still surprised that this channel is not hitting 1 million subs, cuz it feels like it already has more than a million subs with the content that u guys are making. (Keep it up, I'll stay subbed until you guys hit that milestone and higher. For real in all honesty, one of the best channel that I like to wake up to watch in the morning.)

[@bluemoon539]

I enjoy the podcasts, and some of their content. It's no surprise though. They've been busted in plagiarizing other peoples content and stuff in the past. It's more a channel for the casual F1 fan i'd say.

[@sunnyplanet9988]

I mean "plagiarized" is a strong word, I would say "similar" because the formula 1 topic it self is fixed as in everything is the same as in video topics. For example: aerodynamics of F1 are very complicated for people who don't really know the physics behind it. This channel and many other channels that cover F1 made their video a little easier to understand which in turn can make the videos look very similar.

[@bornasiroki3976]

Define: team Team /tēm/ Noun 1. Driver number one Synonim: Lewis Hamilton Context: "I understand the reason. It is for the team."

[@LightSightTCR]

Mercedes did everything right. Championships - goals of the season.

[@blairhenderson1476]

It's worth it. Did you watch the first half of the season???

[@johanglans5746]

I think that the force india swap was okey because they swapped back, the merceders one i wouldn't have cared about if they swapped back. They very well could have swapped without risk for the 1-2. Yeah 50 points is nice to have, but to take away bottas win, a win he earned full well over the weekend, none the less over the season, good luck finding a more unlucky driver

[@g.g.baxter4868]

In the grand scheme it doesn't matter, Bottas isn't going to win the championship, hes not in F1 to win one race, he wants to be in the Merc to win the championship, Ocon would be in that car next season if Bottas didn't play the team game, his best chance for a while now is to keep improving, keep having weekends like this, keep proving his worth and come back and do what Nico did.

[@Rui-wb4hu]

@@g.g.baxter4868 Lets be realistic: Bottas will never win a champion in that Mercedes with Lewis as teammate. So yes, Bottas is there to get the maximum possible for the team but also for his own good. He is there to get some points and possibly 1 or 2 wins in a season. This win was his win and would be great for his CV and for statistics because he usually does so well in Sochi and Mercedes were just: 'Screw you're well beeing".

[@PaulHellion]

@@Rui-wb4hu The flaw with that viewpoint though is what is probably in Bottas' contract, which will state he has to do what the team want. Pretty much every driver will have some wording similar to that in their contract. Such clauses basically ensure drivers aren't able to just look after their own good, but to ensure the teams interests are protected above those of the individual driver.

[@craigcj5953]

nah force india was ok becuase force india is not Mercedes and not Hamilton. thats all

[@MRDK6969]

If Team order is okay, then there should be a world wide ban on gambling on F1, because this Team order to Bottas costing a lot of money for many fan around the world, and I really don't think "these" people are that happy with Mercedes at this moment... Or maybe if they use team order in the future, the team should cover ALL bets on there cars... ;-))

[@321RrelyT]

I can do whatever I want.

[@matthewthomas2546]

Fake

[@Xiphactinus]

Long may it continue 😒

[@Dan4096]

@@matthewthomas2546 can you verify?

[@benevans7152]

If there were 4 quali sessions I would have 5 random cars going out each time to give drivers more room on track and then at the end just put the lap times in order and that's the grid

[@johnwhittaker311]

Bevans Fifa like Formula E

[@tigerchuu2148]

Team orders suck. You destroy the whole racing part and it’s no longer the best driver on the day that wins. There is no competition or excitement for the fans. You give Hamilton such a lead it is impossible almost for Vettel to come back. I’m starting to question why I’m watching F1 anymore. I already know who will win before it’s over.

[@bubba5169]

"Formula 1 is a team sport." It`s not that simple. In case of the constructors title, yes, it`s a team sport. The drivers title isn`t a thing that matters on a for a team in perspective of sportsmanship. And Mercedes doesen`t have to care who`s on 1 and who on 2. So if they switch to save a position they have to switch back. Everything else is unsporty. And abaout Lewis saying he didn`t want that, why did he do it? Scared of Merc throwing him out?

[@TheMrFarmerJoe9]

Uh, cause if Bottas slows down for Hamilton to pass him and then Hamilton slows down so he doesn't pass him then Vettel would just fly by both of them?

[@AndyPlaysAllNight]

I wonder what would happen if team orders were implemented in the games.

[@axemanracing6222]

I wonder what happens if "off-track" is implemented in real life.

[@sandeepraj248]

Jessssssssss Jessssssss

[@shooshlyshoosh1221]

Love the podcast, but literaly 100% of the time I was going "Jess, hell that dress"

[@ronsta11]

They say Formula 1 is a team sport. Team sport for the constructor and an individual sport for the driver. Team orders should go away and if anyone tries to manipulate the result of the race, they should be penalized with a race ban and points stripped away.

[@samueljones3668]

ronnie_g It went away, and didn't work so whats your point. They worked around it anyway remember "Alonso is faster than you, do you understand this message". Team orders have been around since the beginning of the sport, and what Merc did was justified they need to lengthen their lead in the championship Bottas is not even up for World Champion contention anyway.

[@JontysCorner]

Red hair is best hair. I'm biased but I don't care, it is. (and no I'm not ginger)

[@danielo7985]

Oh its jonty

[@psyclonetheseahawk9261]

Hamilton is faster, than, you. Can you confirm that you understand this message?

[@omarrock9899]

Jess laugh at the start was 😍😍😍

[@dhanasrinaik8769]

Hamilton fangirl ALERT!

[@skuastone9698]

The irony .

[@ivonaposedi7418]

Team orders could be regulated with grid penalties. They should give them to the team for the following race. Then we would see if the team would think that employing the order is worth losing some points in the next race. And yes, you could argue that they could have a code, but you can see the data and if someone let their teammate by or not That seems, at least in my mind, more logical then penalising someone for having reliability issues. And also, it would stop neverending arguing about how the WDC was won because of the teammate . And although I'm a Lewis supporter, I agree with the guys. I don't think it is ok. I don't care that team orders have been in the sport forever. I have been watching it for almost 30 years. But this isn't a valid arguement. Just because something has been done for a long time isn't a justification. I know that millions are involved in the sport. But with this action Mercedes and F1 have lost fans. Sometimes integrity, honesty and justice are more important than any championship

[@maximsoucy]

Team orders were banned from 2003 to 2010, it didn't work the best example of that is the famous ferrari team order to Massa : "Fernando is faster than you"

[@arrgghh1555]

It didn't work because the FIA are a bunch of pussies and didn't disqualify Ferrari and remove all their constructors points.

[@cesarvaallejo]

0:53 the head at the left back of the image, at the top of the table😂😂😂

[@LightSightTCR]

Jess is love.

[@jameswg13]

I felt you contradicted yourself a bit there Jess. We all understand team orders is part of the sport at the same time though such blatant ones etc do bring the sport into disrepute and takes a lot away from the paying fans. Then when you consider getting coming into the sport it's a very very fine line. Even Ross brawn regrets 2002 if you read total competition. I'm not calling for a ban on team orders far from it however I think the needs to be some form of restrictions and if something like technical issue happens or different strategy's the teams have to provide that evidence to the FIA

[@burdineestep4224]

Jason, no doubt I know all that. Not my 1st rodeo. Peter Collins handed over his car voluntarily, no team orders, cost him the championship. Different times. Teams were fined for bring the "sport" into disregard. F.I.A. needs to grow some "hair". If you loose the championship by 3 points , at least you've done so w/ honor , your head held high. F1 is losing viewer's as it is, this just adds fuel to the fire. As far as un-policeable no radio- except -"pit this lap" 3 lights on dash. Green= car o.k. Drive like hell- fend em' all of make us proud WIN for YOURSELF and yourFANS. Yellow= car questionable, use care. Red= unsafe, park it a.s.a.p. SOLVED.

[@chikennabugwu2296]

I think the Ocon and Perez incident was fine because they let Ocon back through.

[@BdogsGaming]

like if tommy should have Japanese flag hair

[@suraj_mh1493]

The team order At force india was way more reasonable. Ocon couldnt pass Magnussen so they gave perez a few laps to try. when he also wasnt able to pass they gave Ocon the position back. They tried everything to pass magnussen wich is different from the Mercedes team order.

[@shadowfan982]

can you imagine the commentators telling viewers about the betting odds "vettel to win 1/1.75"

[@Samiqmojo]

If Bottas had driven better this year and maybe won a race or two then I don’t think the Sochi decision would be such a big issue. Yes the decision sucked but Ferrari are way better than 2017. Tough call. Right call.

[@g.g.baxter4868]

If Bottas had driven better, been a bit luckier, he would be in the championship fight and Merc wouldn't have made the call, They've only ever enforced team orders to calm on track fighting to preserve the win or when one driver is out of the championship, Bottas isn't in F1 to win a race, hes there to win the championship, best think he can do is walk away head high, keep improving and make sure he does everything he can to be more consistent and in the championship fight next year

[@JustSleeth]

The opinion on "you can't complain because team orders is legal" contradicts your statement of "it's up to the FIA to decide if it impacts the spectacle". The fans pay for the spectacle, so a complaint is valid. We can look at how boring a lot races have been, fans have been vocal and FIA keep trying to change regulations to accomidate.

[@jraybay]

Not trying to be sleazy but Jess is looking great indeed 😎 Right. Team orders banned again? Short answer: No Even when they were banned, teams still worked around it. I actually prefer having them legal, instead of having cheesy and agonizing coded messages, that an 8 year old could figure out. Its sad for Bottas but you can see why Mercedes did what they did... Racing is a tough business and its not always fair. Bottas had lost out on 3 victories already, earlier in the season, through no fault of his own. I'm sure Mercedes will pay him back but thought it was worth pointing out why he may be more frustrated than usual. This has been a long time coming for him.

[@B34RHunter]

I think they should ban them. If they are so easy to figure out surely it's easy to issue race bans as punishment for a team if they're deemed to have used them. Just make the punishment not worth trying to use them.

[@generalalmirantepresidente2595]

It's unnecessary next races , Lewis is the champion, he can finish third every next race, by the way Ferrari is illegal , that's why the performance has fallen

[@jamesirving484]

Allow team orders but if used have a fine attached as a deterrent

[@fabienbable]

I feel like many forget the thing that back in 2002 (to stay at the Schumi, Barichello example) there were fewer points to give for top6/top8. First got 10 points and 2nd like 8. With such a point system and fewer races per season a team order like that is (to me) much more exusable than today...

[@saiyerugara2629]

Mercedes dirty tactics!

[@fordgalaxiefanclub7733]

Im sure Lewis could've overtook Bottas at one point and that one order made everyone super angry

[@TjopStick]

Do you think Verstappen will swap position?? NO!!

[@craigcj5953]

hes just crash into his teamate.

[@braveheart4lif31]

I don’t really think it ‘matters’ why they did it. Yes it’s in the rules, yes we all understand why they did it. And honestly it shouldn’t be, it needs to go away. But the fact is, it doesn’t just hurt the sport for the fans. It hurts the sport for the racers, NOT ONE racer should EVER be told “let your teammate pass you because he’s our favorite” I’m relatively new to F1 I fully confess, but I’ve never seen this level of driver favoritism in any racing series. I completely understand Hamilton is leading the drivers championship, but he should have to EARN that. You shouldn’t hand any driver anything, Hamilton should have to work to the very last race for the championship regardless of who is in front of or behind him in the current race, especially not by being handed places by your teammate.

[@jasonuk8333]

Team orders have been part of F1 since it existed. Hell, in the early days when a leading driver had car troubles, their team-mate would often pull over and let them use their car for the rest of the race. I get why people don't like it, but I don't get why so many are shocked when it has always been a part of the sport.

[@Hayden3210]

You wanna see team orders, look up austria 2002, and this is coming from a ferrari fan

[@jastallion45]

sorry newbie this is part of formula from its beginning. Mercedes are looking to wrap up championship as soon as possible. if you have a logical mind, you cannot argue with what happened on Sunday. it's a no-brainer. Sport is not for the faint hearted, its cruel and ruthless. Welcome to F1

[@braveheart4lif31]

I'm well aware of the strategy and reasoning. I'm also well aware it isn't the first time in the history of F1 that it has happened. But there is absolutely no arguing it is rubbish for the sport, and part of the reason you're seeing the interest decrease. Cruel and Ruthless? Things like ordering a teammate to the side are the exact contradiction of 'cruel and ruthless' they are soft and cowardly. Although not allowing RACERS to RACE I suppose I would agree is rather cruel. Let them strap into a multi-million dollar race car and order them what place to take... Like keeping a shark in a cardboard box. Welcome to F1? More like welcome to disappointment. The NASCAR race this weekend was more entertaining than Sochi and I have no desire to watch NASCAR... Team orders need to go, along with many other issues in the sports current state.

[@craigcj5953]

no it doesnt need to go away, if it went away either team would work around it, or just not compete, you think that these teams are doing this for charity for purely your enjoyment? Do you realize how much money each of these parent companies spend on the sport? Did you not realize that these sports are a BIG COMMERCIAL for their company and their products?! (and other companies that sponsor them) I mean I know you see the company logos on the cars right? Do you think thats just for Aesthetics? Look my guy, it seems you dont understand how the world works. (Neither does Matt either apparently) Say they banned eam orders and work arounds etc etc here what would happen. to enforce this 100 percent, theyd have to narrow the teams down to ONE driver. Period. next, Big companies would cease to invest their money into F1 meaning, no more Mercedes, no more Ferrari etc etc. Also Less sponsorship meaning the costs of viewrship would be passed on to the consumer, this mean. . .no more online races, and youll be prepared to pay through the nose to watch a race. . .if anyone would be willing to do that nowadays. The only solution that makes sense would be some of the rule changes comign in the next two years to help make the field more Formula 1 and less formula 1.5 but I dont think people are smart enough to think that far ahead.

[@anarchy0472]

Two red bulls and a merc on the podium Race red flagged due to rain Dnf for vettel

[@pg1171]

Yes! The fastest car should win. That's what racing is about. If Hamilton can't beat his team mate that is just racing. And I'm a Hamilton fan. Racing isn't racing anymore....NASCAR, F1,....they have all put rules into place that are detrimental to the racing part of the race. Too many rules, not enough racing. I haven't followed NASCAR in about 3-4 years, and I have recently given up on F1, for the same reason. I would love to follow racing, but as long as the bodies that control it, don't allow actual racing, then I guess I just have my memories of back when racing wasn't as safe, but it was still racing. Let the comments begin...

[@StinkyCheeseYodeler]

Indycar.

[@tobystent]

1 lap qualifying would be great!!!

[@danielpechmann6712]

I wouldn't mind 4 (Q1-Q4) qualy sessions if they reduce the time for each session massively (like 6-8 mins). Each session 5 drivers drop out. Tyres in Q3 (instead of Q2) become race starting tyre (at least one top team driver on new tyres) This way it's more likely that a top driver will drop out while most of them still get to shoot it out in the final session (Q4). Would give more variety on the starting grid, more top drivers dropping out because of traffic or mistakes, more action for viewers as there are cars constantly on the track and P6 would be the first to use new tyres for the race which would add a great strategic aspect for the race. Also make it mandatory to use 3rd drivers in at least one of the practice session to showcase talent.

[@Kloptrip]

What about banning teamradio completely? You can use FIA to control the safety and traffic via the radio and for the rest, silence.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

This is the first time I've seen the podcast, and obviously also the first time I've seen Jess. What a beautiful girl!! And she knows F1 better than I do? Wow. Why am I still living in America when there are amazing women like this across the atlantic??? (...immediately starts looking for job and apartment in UK)

[@lisawensink6906]

0:54 oh hello👋🏼

[@Nagassh]

"Team orders are part of F1" - so was drivers dying regularly, settling for the status quo is daft, especially when it's as detrimental to the sport as only having two teams seriously in the race against each other, only two drivers seriously in the championship battle and usually a 2v1 race when Bottas (Or Raikkonen if he's in second) are being used as a portable roadblock. It's a sad state when cutthroat Ferrari look like they're being the team that's letting their drivers race more than the team with a 50pt lead over them. Team orders are pretty hard to stop from a rules standpoint without teams doing it cloak and dagger, but the fanbase shouldn't stop being critical when it's killing the sport.

[@tomikivela7634]

4 Sessions, 5 drop out, 3 of them like now but the last one for the top 5 would be one shot quali.

[@paulgrn8]

Terrible qualifying ideas. Risking more gimics.... do not pull a NASCAR. they continue to try that stuff and keep getting it wrong. Gimics dont work.

[@Tiger31193]

My idea for Qualifying in F1: Idea 1: Q1 + Q2 the Elimination Qualifying Q3 Normal Qualifying Idea 2: Like Indycar Q1 + Q2 Normal Qualifying Q3 One Lap Qualifying (6 or 8 Cars)

[@willdreon9558]

FP1, 10.00: 1 hour on Saturday Qualifying, 14:00 Saturday: Outlap + 1 hotlap in reverse order of previous race

[@Locormus2]

Three-word-race-review: "This is James". Serious three-word-race-review: Unhappiest Podium Ever. Hamilton feeling ashamed as hell, Bottas feeling robbed, Vettel knowing he lost the championship.

[@davidpesha3841]

666 likes?

[@Hayden3210]

Matt doesnt gove Ericsson any credit but gives charles BEST DRIVER OF ALL TIME

[@josetraviesa3059]

YES! Let them race!!!! Just like Rosberg and Hamilton did a couple years ago. Blue flags need to go also, same reason.

[@riggybiggy]

The problem is that mercedes was so dominant that it was sure that they would win the drivers and constructors championship. 2018 this isn't the case imo

[@josetraviesa3059]

@@riggybiggy I agree and understand, but it's bad for the sport and bad PR for them.

[@riggybiggy]

@C K N agree. But Rosberg was never 117 points behind Lewis 5 races to the end

[@jamesmiller3142]

Lewis hates bad publicity. I think he'll give the next race to Bottas

[@tees6675]

BEST PODCAST

[@MRDK6969]

Jess, your question at 33:23 about if anybody have tried that, it was something similar that happen to Magnussen, 2014 get hired to race for McLaren... 2015 Demoted to third Driver, and fired around October / November... and are out of Formula One... 2016 February get hired to race for Renault... 2017 and on, get hired to race for HAAS

[@mercuriallover5]

Secondly .. i agree making a mockry of the podium .... what the fuck? You take the checked flag but give the second place? He doesn’t get any satisfaction ..

[@FranciscoCCoutinho]

Banned? Why? A TEAM is a TEAM , means Team-Work. It exists on every Sport. A Football player passes the ball to another player if he thinks he as best chance to make GOAL (Finish Flag)... IF it was a PLAYER objective... ok No Orders, BUT Remember...It is a TEAM WORK. Of course, Orders exist. If they finish orders , they will also finish the concept of a TEAM.

[@courtneyfrench4374]

45 mins into FP1 and they’ve already compared Jules and Charles.

[@dbmgaming3039]

WHY DOES THIS PODCAST ONLY HAVE 3K LIKES ITS THE END OF THE SEASON AND WE WERE TO LATE, seriously just imagine Tommmy with a Japenease flag on his head.

[@mikenew11]

We don't want: - Team Orders - Engines locked at 15.000 rpm - Drivers holding back because of fuel saving - Extremely complex front wings - Grid penalties for literally any driver because the rules are totally unrealistic - 5-10S Penalties for just racing - Ferrari always getting the benefit of the doubt from race control - Renault - Alonso complaining like a child about everybody around him except for the ones responsible: McLaren

[@Otis1194]

She is so right!!! Any other team would do the EXACT SAME THING! Vettel his main rival said quote “It was a no brainer”. Team orders have always done it. Will always do it. You never complained when Vettel got orders, when Schumacher got orders. Stop whinging

[@jack303030]

Teamorders will always be there even if it's illegal. Remember Massa-Alonso or Barichello and Schumacher.

[@JoeMercersWay]

I think Tommy should dye his hair like an F1 rainbow, with a different colour stripe for each team's colour. Either that or Matty should shave in into "it's Raidillon actually" whilst Tommy is sleeping.

[@clansome]

@WTF1 That final shot at 48:34 of the faces 3 of you in the podcast, esp if dowloaded. OUCH Ali really got his own back !! Love it and love your podcasts (even if I disagree with your views on Max and Charles).

[@kentarohonjo50]

shout-out plz 😛

[@gregor3000pl]

And that's another podcast gone as Jess annoys the living hell out of me, bye

[@Tiger31193]

You CAN'T ban team orders. We had a "ant-team order rule" (2003-2010: "Team orders, they interfere with the race result are prohibited) and we saw how well that went ("Fernando is faster than you"). F1 was, is and will be always a team sport. Team orders is a part of the sport. Period. Team orders are not pretty, i unterstand, but you can't get rid of it by any rule that put in place, so they will be around longer.

[@AGD_27]

I think they should go down to 2 qualifying sessions. Take all the times from FP sessions, the 8 fastest automatically go to Q2, the bottom 12 have to go through Q1 and 15-20 minutes to qualify the top 2 join in Q2. Then you have a 15 minute top 10 battle for pole. Short amount of time, traffic, and the chances of slower cars being mixed in with the fast means the sessions will not be the same every time.

[@jacobknoef6381]

Hey guys I love wtf1 and I thought you're ideas on qualifying were great. They should have a session with all 20 cars and the top 8 go into a 1v1 battle like 1st v 2nd, 3rd v 4th etc. It would make drivers push harder in Q1 and it would provide great racing on Saturday

[@TripleTSingt]

I just hate people discussing this stuff while being so biased. I don't have an opinion on team orders. Just from intuition I think its bad (the one who worked for the position and drove better has to give it up). But so many people just say they don't want team orders because its benefitting Mercedes in this very instance. I don't like Hamilton. He's a crybaby and phony. I wanna see someone like Vettel, Räikkönen, Ricciardo or even Bottas winning, because I LIKE them. And Bottas deserves a win this season.

[@liviciousx]

Thanks for choosing my prediction! I wasn't even being serious with it, but I couldn't think of anything that hadn't already been said

[@Kudo_STTK]

What if you make Q1 and Q2 into 1 session, Q3 becomes Q2 and then a 5 lap race between the #1 and #2? Might add some extra excitement on the saturday. Unfortunately I don't think teams will agree because of the risk of damaging their cars.

[@malkolmlarsson4022]

F1 should learn more from motogp. The qualifying in motogp is shorter ( Q1,Q2) and the practice sessions are also a part of the qualifying wich makes them more intressting as well!

[@zakmillington7380]

To be fair to Perez, Magnussen was fuel saving when Ocon was behind and turned it back up when Perez swapped to chase him and did much faster laps.

[@muhammadjabareen7754]

WTF1 Podcast AKA Alonso haters group meeting

[@TheTrickytrick88]

Bottas isn't good enough to challenge for a WDC, If he was a contender it wouldn't of happend. Ocon is in that car in 2020. With the gambling you just stipulate in the terms and conditions that team orders are a possibility surely? By the way Lewis is every bit as good as Schumacher and Senna in relation to their respective era's , come at me!

[@19tstephens]

Tom, seriously.. The pigeons. Could of picked a better team. Lol

[@dielegende9141]

How I'd love qualifying to be: -5 (or so) lap race -Grid in reverse championship order

[@orestispapadopoulos07]

Tommy- Imagine if Kvyat torpedoes Vettel in Melbourne... Jess- Pleeeeease Pleeeease oh just piss oofff girl... Every single week i try to like you but you make it even harder every time

[@jasonjones8492]

I don't get it?What is wrong with everyone?Bottas has had all season to win races and he hasn't,so obviously at this stage Mercedes are now going to support Hamilton all the way in every way possible.100% the right decision. Well done Toto for having some ball's.✌🏻

[@GloomGaiGar]

Nope. Regardless of rules, team orders will always pop up in a TEAM SPORT. It has always been around. The only way to permanently get rid of it is to have 1 car per team. Jess with the real talk. Nice. I still feel for Bottas though. Even when he does so well, he gets short changed.

[@jennifer2619]

New qualifying like what Jess said but the top 6 would have to be from different teams. Would make more battles and hopefully change up the top 6 every now and then?

[@schurgy16]

Coming into this weekend my thoughts on teams was: "If you don't like team orders, don't have teams" but after seeing that, I'm starting to reconsider my viewpoint.

[@TheMur28]

Suzuka prediction: Race will not reach 75% distance (due to heavy rain) and half-points will be awarded as a result.

[@AndiNorth]

Jess is a genius - Q4 between the top two drivers (from different teams) would be bloody epic. And from a standing start would probably be the best bit of the weekend (in terms of action).

[@136ctrh]

What about an idea that if drivers in the same team finish consecutively that both drivers get points for the higher position? eg. in this scenario, Bottas and Hamilton would both get 25 points. Vettel and Kimi would both get 15 etc.

[@AndrewSmall963]

And in a surprise move, Ocon gets the 2019 Mercedes drive as Bottas moves to Williams stating, "I wanted a better opportunity for a race win."

[@mckracken9516]

It wasn't obvious because he slammed on the breaks. It was obvious because they played a radio message saying "Ok Valterie, you need to let Hamilton pass at turn 13, he's got a blister and we need to protect from Vettel."

[@andy435]

40 seconds in and you're still talking about pigeons. This is why I don't watch your podcasts. Get to it ffs!

[@KujaTheBigOne]

Banning team orders it's impossible... what should happen is to ban team radio totally. In Moto Gp they can race without it.