Should There Be More Legal Protection for Firearms Officers?

[@Nash0303]

Too many tears are cried over violent criminals, too many protests occur for some of the worst in our society. It's baffling.

[@AllanHinde-mb2pr]

Woke agenda mate

[@nhlanhlambambo1962]

​@@AllanHinde-mb2pr, Are you crying for racist Peter Lynch?

[@Pierremontquaker03]

We have gone full circle, the criminal is now being painted as the victim.

[@Canvashed]

Where's the politicians or celebrities who called for Justice for Mr Kaba? Crawled back under their rock

[@Y0u7u8e.]

That ex PC Chantelle Lunt, was running her gums off about black people being victimised and making it about race. Fair play to that ex firearms officer. At no point was the topic of race mentioned until she decided to add that, showing her true BLM activist stance, and then trying to be condescending towards the ex-firearms officer by saying that race was significant in the matter all of a sudden. I bet she was a two-bit PC, a complete liability who waved the race card around constantly instead of doing her job. And uses that 'ex PC' title as some form of authority in the matter. What if it had been a black officer who had shot Kaba under the same circumstances? Would she have come out of the woodwork? Of course not.

[@RobHowell-q9t]

Well said, she came across as an entitled know it all.

[@jeanetteeftekhar6762]

Definitely. This man was part of a very dangerous gang. Why all the people gathered at the Old Bailey. The family should be ashamed of their family members, especially as he has been in trouble since he was 13.

[@joprocter4573]

But apparently police were not using info .if that were so and this was just an incident out of blue the video shows then this would be rough police challenge BUT court shows criminal history of crimes from childhood SO knew wasn't simply a member of society being challenged.

[@dmob881]

​@@joprocter4573 As I understand it this was about the car. Not Kaba. They didn't know he was driving it. The police were actively looking for the Audi which was linked to recent shooting. That was the info they had. Armed officers were in unmarked cars in the area where they would be most likely to spot it. Which, of course, they did. They followed it - while getting a decision on what to do and while the other vehicles required to do it were getting in position - a coordinated effort to force the vehicle to stop (in a narrow street) and 'extract' the driver. Kaba knew he was being followed. He called his girlfriend to tell her - so had just as much time to work out what HIS tactics would be.

[@invisible123-l9d]

Where is the proof that this man was any sort of criminal?

[@scottiramage317]

That ex firearms officer is amazing - I could listen to him read the HIFI instructions Edit - Race Baiting isn’t cool Chantelle

[@freshtoast3879]

He has done a lot of interviews before.

[@RobHowell-q9t]

Look up the Dodge Woodall podcast with this fire arms officer, he was treated worse than criminals are treated.

[@scottiramage317]

@@RobHowell-q9t Thanks will do

[@vietashroffoliver2521]

"Unarmed black people" others don't matter? What a careless statement

[@irisaviation852]

Makes by blood boil. He should have never have been charged.

[@gurdipsingh1836]

If you innocent why run from police

[@davidwane]

Wayne Couzens?

[@NathanBriggs-86]

She had no argument, tried to rely purely on emotionally swaying people. "Shooting black people" "cozens & Carrick" They had intelligence the car had been involved in shootings, the suspect in the car tried to ram the police, the office reacted & fired once, unfortunately was fatal. Where were Kabas family, when he was shooting others??

[@nthnmonkey]

Chantelle was a TRAINEE police officer who served for 18 Months. Police Training/Probation before being confirmed in the lowest Rank of Constable is 24 Months long. This shows.

[@RobHowell-q9t]

So in reality, she failed as a police officer, no doubt with a chip on her shoulder. No deciding to try and be relevant, by using her race in a negative manner.

[@SWEETAZZHORI]

You dont see Jeremy Corbyn now. Hiding i bet

[@johnhealy5558]

This woman is a former police officer. Thats good news.

[@jenifersmith4114]

More protection for officers this shouldn’t have gone to court

[@vietashroffoliver2521]

How can we trust British Justice? Why does the law support perpetrators of crime and not police who are protecting the public?

[@matthewball2344]

I can see why this lady only managed 18 months as a police officer with her limited understanding of basic legal concepts - armed v unarmed

[@Pumasarrar]

Worst blind date ever

[@Robert-cu9bm]

This women wants to put police in extreme danger. Unarmed at the time🙄

[@Steve-lf9ls]

She wants a free passes given out

[@joeds3775]

He was armed with a vehicle that he was using as a weapon. Watch the body cam footage.

[@chriswickham8678]

So the woman and baby killed last week in a car by police car were killed with a weapon

[@joeds3775]

@@chriswickham8678 no that's an accident.

[@misskatejoker6404]

What about families of police officers, they are at risk too!! It's a scandal that public services officers have to explain themselves!!

[@AllanHinde-mb2pr]

How about the police protect the people for a change that would be nice

[@joeds3775]

No. The obeyace of the law protects them. Breaking the law doesn't.

[@chloesimone8885]

If the police protected the general public they’d protect them back

[@keith8609]

Yes firearms police should have more legal protection

[@jimgem]

Only 1min in and i'm waiting for the race card' my bet it gets played....

[@PCDelorian]

This officer should have never been charged, but new laws won't change that. He was already protected by law, charges were brought anyway. The law should not be laxened nor tightened, it is what it has been for centuries and its fair for defendants and the protection of the public alike. The law is: (1) honest belief of imminent danger, and (2) reasonable force for the circumstances as honestly believed to be. I do think there is an argument for anonymity but I could also argue against that.

[@joeds3775]

The problem is that the plodcam footage was not shown at the time. Once you see the video its a clear legal shot. Lives were endangered by his actions.

[@UKProud]

SUPPORT THE POLICE!

[@ivonkabrowne57]

Yes,it should be.If police ask you to do something you do it and ask questions after. It is reason police has got guns,what a point of that if thay will be afraid to use them.

[@davidwane]

Wayne couzens?

[@EduardShac]

15:47 there's should be nothing to do with race. Stop playing that race card. Black, white, asian, Kurdish, British, Albanian, Nigerian, Lithuanian - doesn't matter, police should do their job without fear. Police is risking their lives for public safety. Let them follow training without doubt and intrusive thoughts that can potentially cost them health or life.

[@coolboy5428]

No there shouldn't.

[@MosunSanni]

No, there shouldn’t be more protection for police officers, many of them who act with a sense of impunity. They need to be better trained not to create high risk environments for themselves/manage their tempers.

[@markst1962]

Its NOT reasonable for some one to end up in court if a life is taken. Its reasonable to weigh up ALL THE FACTS to then determine if court is appropriate.

[@memedaddytv3618]

If a licenced police officer has a firearm locked and secured in their patrol vehicle, would the female former copper here say that that officer was "armed"? 🤔

[@wyldwiisel9126]

They can have more protection when they lose their pension for commuting a crime while in office

[@aethellstan]

yes but they should never be above the law

[@JoshPascoe-zt6yf]

In a word, yes

[@EssexLadOutdoors]

Last comment from this lady says it all.

[@mogznwaz]

Yes. They are taking the ultimate risk AND responsibility. If they’re not protected why should they do it? Then who will protect us from the real bad guys? It’s only dangerous criminals at real risk from armed police - if the odd one gets offed slightly dubiously I honestly find it hard to care.

[@freshtoast3879]

12:19 He didn't like that 😂

[@alanpatten468]

I have no sympathy for Kaba and his supporters.I wish to make that clear.But I know a great deal about firearms training and worked as an armed government officer and later close quartercombat instructor for this country in the Far East for many years, in fact my whole career.The Met armed response unit has a history of questionable shootings going back as far as the eye can see. In my professional view, their training is of poor quality and inadequate; they also select and train many who should not be allowed out with a loaded weapon on the streets of London.

[@whateversunpopular1338]

Why bring Couzens and Carrick into it? 🤷

[@jabbadabbajew6035]

Well you let women lead the police force, and now the criminals are victims. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@user-wn3uz9qn4t]

Why are we enfan having this discussion. The law should have protected the firesarms officer, his family, and co - workers. Life is about choices. The criminal chose to be a criminal, and the officer chose to do his job to protect the community and his co-workers.

[@dom9882]

Police should always be held to the same standards as anyone else. They should not be above the law. The guy in this interview shot at someone EIGHT times, with 6 shots hitting them in the face, head, neck and chest. And once again, not holding a weapon.

[@jjaian2]

They have enough immunity !!!! Wahhhh wahhhh

[@anthonymusashi6104]

Just wana have qualified immunity like the American police , if you can’t be held accountable for your actions good or bad you shouldn’t be a police officer or any other public service period

[@banjaman123]

It doesn't take 2+ years to be held accountable with copious amounts of video footage and eye-witness accounts...

[@MosunSanni]

Thanks Chantelle, well said. It feels to me like the police are so used to, arguably, abusing their powers with impunity that just the thought of them being held to account makes ex- police offers coil. It is right that the police, particularly the Met, who has been found to be corrupt by a parliamentary inquiry, be held accountable for their actions. No one deserves to be above the law they are appointed to uphold.

[@JOzzie-u8z]

I couldnt see his hands maybe they where in the steering wheel these people and inteligent dint beling in the same sentence

[@dannyquinn9128]

Maybe learn to spell before questioning people's intelligence.

[@sidneybeaumont5061]

no ......sorry no way

[@paulnicholls4791]

No, they most follow the laws, as the public. They already think they are above law

[@9945m]

Yes they should simple.

[@LuffyDaGoat]

We need protection from Susanna because she is on fire right now woof woof

[@philgordon6671]

If Cops with guns cannot do there job. What's the point