Should this even be allowed?! Lyric Graffiti X - First Look

[@lyriccycles]

A few things about the demo model vs production model: ✅The side panels can easily be tightened, plus we changed the design to fit the shape of the bike better and be less flimsy. ✅The saddle will be bolted onto the production frame. We were attempting under-seat storage with the prototype, but had to scrap it in the interest of keeping the timeline, and to make the seat fit better. ✅The battery case was 3D printed. Production case is a bead blasted and anodized aluminum case, which is very robust and fits the aesthetic of the bike ✅We deleted the unused charger port. The production version will have a charge meter on the top where those empty holes are to check the battery level. ✅The throttle on this demo is different than the production version Hope that helps!

[@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67]

If you don't mind me asking, what motor are you running?

[@SlyEphex]

Sold. The moment I get the money this thing looks perfect. I'm glad these have pedals super crucial in the state/town I live in. That build quality and price seems amazing.

[@THColt45]

⁠@@SlyEphex did you ever order one? I just ordered mine Friday, same color as one in video.

[@randomalleycat]

I preordered mine when it was first announced! Waiting for my tracking number any day now!

[@simms196]

Awesome to see the LG X being dyno verified! I pre purchased in Jan & can't wait to receive in August! All that power with pedals is what sold me. Pedals are absolutely essential for being allowed on bike path. Great review!

[@jeanleloup4342]

8 months 🤯

[@wj9494]

I have been involved in e-bikes for several years. 2kW is about the limit for bicycle parts. Higher power really requires motorcycle parts, which this has, looks good.

[@MrLarry-gr8]

That's a really good point. Keeping up with the flow of traffic is definitely safer. They should rethink the speed limit for the classes in my opinion.

[@A_Handle_2_Continue]

Listen, I took the MOST2 motorcycle course which used to allow me to teach the class. When you are on a road, you need to stay just to the left of the center to ride free of the oil slick. It becomes extremely evident when mist falls from air. Also that position makes you visible in the driver's side mirror.

[@BlairAir]

"The faster I go, I would say the better it actually feels" - thats been my experience in life, generally speaking. Also, I like that it has a strong on center feel.

[@mr.monitor.]

That's what she said.

[@El_Guap]

Forgot to add... since it's direct drive you could/should add Statorade/ferrofluid and cooling fins and heatsinks/Hubsink

[@Area13ebikes]

Definitely could use one or both.

[@THColt45]

Do you guys know which fins or hubsinks will fit this bike?

[@El_Guap]

@@THColt45 as far as I know, there’s never been any heat sinks produced for this motor and mag.

[@lionelgower6877]

Road legal is all well and good, but you have to make sure that the bike can handle the road conditions especially in an emergency situation. 😮

[@josep264]

I'm considering an Emma 3.0 with 450 lbs capacity with trunk and two seater. Great review. Thank you for saving me 4k on this one.

[@trippdawg3337]

That's why sleeper bikes are important fuck the laws it's safer to be able to keep up with traffic discretely then being nerfed at 20mph the pedals allows you to use that I. Front of police throw a scanner on it so you know ahead of time and you got the complete package

[@johnnylong2049]

It has dual sport tires, can you take it off road on some hard packed dirt maybe? There are no off road vids on the graffiti x. Mrcentral had one but his friend was on it and he had it on road mode.

[@NewYorkMan36]

Goat power bike V3 is 45-50 mph fully stock.

[@Area13ebikes]

Goat power video coming soon.

[@NewYorkMan36]

@Area13ebikes I have the V3, and it's a great bike. I'm looking forward to seeing your video about it.

[@140theguy]

The power goat is very high on my list. There are several companies that already make full frame batteries for it that will give you 75 total Amp hours. That would give the bike roughly an hour and a half at full throttle. 😳

[@NewYorkMan36]

@@140theguy it's the best ebike I ever owned.

[@Billy-cs4cc]

Excellent review Kyle, I've learned a lot from this as I knew little about motorcycle tire size compared to bike tires.

[@raylivengood8040]

I like to rip around on my 50lbs bike that can hit 40+. Because it’s so light I rarely take it over 30 though. Motor is 3500W and like the controller, it’s multi voltage capable. I can use a range of batteries that I already have, so I can strap on a small Ah for short distances, or larger for longer distances. The larger battery (72V) actually helps with stability because it mounts on the center top bar.

[@slickx1339]

What bike u talkin about

[@jacobjakubek1076]

Can you open up the case and show us the battery and controller? What is it running? Any idea? Order in tomorrow depending what it is. When is delivery supposed to be happening?

[@lyriccycles]

We are running Samsung cells, and an ASI BAC 2000 controller

[@janhalcion]

@@lyriccycles When is delivery supposed to be happening? Is it delayed again?

[@lyriccycles]

@@janhalcion We have only delayed the delivery of the first batch once by 3-4 weeks. That is not delayed further. Production is just completing now. Deliveries will be end of September/Early October as communicated to all those that purchased. Original target was August. The second batch is still mid-November and we are on schedule for that batch.

[@thebikecave]

Hey Kyle! Nice review bro! I had that exact bike before you did to film my review… Did you have any issues with the fenders? I snapped both 3D printed ones that were on the bike…

[@Area13ebikes]

I did not but they said they won't be printed for production anyway.

[@thebikecave]

Yeah should be more “bendy” plastic…

[@JamesRicci-nw2im]

Hello, thanks for the review, lots of good info! So are the rims and tires on the X really motorcycle grade? If so, I'll need to get the tools needed for a flat repair. Thanks

[@johnw65]

We Need A Kickstand Safety Switch wired into the brake/motor shutoff circuit! I'm lucky to be alive after a forgotten kickstand caused a wreck that resulted in a fractured C-1 vertebrae, ie, Broken Neck Some may have sued but I was happy to be alive...

[@bigguy1403]

It's ok for now but in 2025 new ebike laws will limit speed to 20mph on class 3 bikes. Government has nothing better to do but to mess with bicycles now.

[@marumarukira]

They'll do everything to make sure we are stuck with Gas powered transportation! No matter how successfull these EV transportation vehicles, GAS giants will always comes out on top. Not trying to be political but it is the bigger picture.

[@noodles169]

This is where we need a switch on ebikes, that limit and ultimate the bike with just a push

[@FattyOn2Wheels]

its not a bicycle its a motorbike

[@bigguy1403]

@@FattyOn2Wheels if it has peddles it's a bike with a motor..

[@BioluminescenceOfTheSpirit]

Despite taxes being higher than ever, you're still getting more government than you pay for. Worst deal ever

[@NWforager]

Kyle , i hear tariffs are about to kick price Way up . Love your insider info on this

[@oregonebikermark8953]

Great review @Area 13 Nice show of power, speed etc.

[@Ray.Marx.67]

Sides probably going to make a storage area of some sort under seat and probably why it feels loose, could be haven't yet finalized hardware for it. What about distance?

[@lyriccycles]

That was the plan! Had to scrap it this time around due to timeline constraints, but hopefully something we can incorporate in the future!

[@clivegaunt1230]

I honestly would like to know if I bought one in Canada and it was restricted in speed .if I had the option within the settings to max 45 mph it out obviously at my own risk

[@lyriccycles]

It will ship at 20mph ebike speed (32km/h in Canada). Then you can unlock to access top speed

[@DS-jh1bp]

First time seeing your content. Nice video and edits. Captivating content and production

[@isskkh2146]

glad that you return back riding ebikes ... keep up

[@housedjnyc]

You are right keeping up with traffic is indeed more safe. I considered that model, but decided to build my own e-bikes, both 72v & one dual motor. Here in Central FL, no one is paying attention to any kind of bikes here. A guy already build his own 8kw mtn bike that topped out at 105mph.

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

Good points all and I hope they are listing about the throttle.

[@lyriccycles]

The throttle on this demo unit is slightly different, so should be good to go on the production version!

[@ltserge3226]

This is such a good video those drone shots and 3d angles are awesome

[@GreenGrid]

The site says 3000 watts. Where are you getting the 8000 watts from? Are you referring to peak wattage?

[@Area13ebikes]

They claim 7200 watts peak. My dyno shows 8kw peak power.

[@lyriccycles]

It’s a 3000 watt nominal system and we advertise 7200 peak. Similar to how we advertise 45mph top speed and every reviewer is over that speed. Happy to see this review shows we are living into our marketing/specs and then some.

[@GreenGrid]

@@lyriccycles Thats some strong affiliate partnering. I think it shows real merchant dedication to see the company rep step in and answer performance spec questions on their own product out in the buyers Either. Thanks for clearing this up!

[@psyonyxAF]

I'm a sucker for a good drone shot! Great vid

[@Area13ebikes]

Thanks! Me too

[@BigDuke6ixx]

Right, so it's a gutless motorbike? Or a monster ebike?

[@DRE980.1]

Mine is supposed to arrive by year end. Looking for helmet recommendations

[@extremeelectronics1033]

Do you have to pay in full to pre-order or can you just pay a deposit?

[@xanderxander08]

Nice bike man, Pricey, but nice. Are you going to review the Ghostcat F2.2 Pro?

[@Area13ebikes]

Tell them to send me one

[@georgejarasa1736]

Thanks for the vid! Did you get to test for highest pedaling speed on the fastest setting?

[@franciscosalazar2031]

I'm looking forward for the lyric voodoo 🚲

[@johnw65]

Sweet bike! But, would have to be tagged in Oklahoma. It costs a bundle for license tags and insurance on my motorcycles. I like my folding ebike for hauling to park trails in my car and no registration or insurance costs... Also, emopeds are not legal on bike trails here....

[@markgarron7138]

They have problems keeping their word, and counting items that you order and will short you on the simple things, i would think twice ordering from them !

[@JCIIIBULLET]

It’s smart to think twice when ordering any item, my friend

[@lyriccycles]

Hi Mark, we always follow through in providing what is ordered if we make any mistakes. Not sure what your order number was, but we are human and make an error here and there but always happy to make it right

[@hangtenboy]

@@lyriccyclesGood to know! ☺️

[@janhalcion]

Oh, you got one already? Can we check it out? Pics? Video?

[@jeffmpvd7689]

I’m watching this video while laying in bed as I have been for the past month with a fractured knee and fractured wrist. After thousands of miles of happy eBike riding I crashed my bike, going 14 mph. I can’t imagine what my injuries would be like if I was going 30 mph or more.

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

Had someone run in front of me at 10 mph laid it down and F’d my knee up. Like destroyed it been a year in recovery for a tibia plateau comminuted fracture. Knee hit pavement and got sandwiched between the bike and the road. Bike is a Hyper Scorpion. My leg will never be the same and walk with a limp. Back to riding though! Took a year with 3 months of that in the bed with learning to walk again with a walker PAIN! beginning to end‼️ Love watching ebike riders (stupid asses) acting like reality doesn’t exist caught up in that look at me fantasy. They crash at speeds they go and they die.

[@deleteduser3455]

That's horrible and completely their fault

[@tonyholmes9024]

Get well soon. Are you all done with riding?

[@ProfessorStephon]

​@@tonyholmes9024 Hopefully yes. It's not for everyone.

[@deleteduser3455]

That sucks but you need proper gear and stay on the bike if you can

[@killakev1187]

Did something on the Graffiti X break while reviewing or did the damage happen during shipping, When it went from you to the next destination it arrived making a bunch of clicking noises on the front end

[@Area13ebikes]

The rider before me crashed and broke the front fender. Don't know what the clicking was but was there for me too.

[@quantumfx2677]

I would really like to see this compared to the Ristretto 512 cyc middrive Ebike.

[@KAMISEYE]

When u get mine, I'm going to Put a windshield on it and some mirrors , but I'll make it all look like it came from factory with some nice tastes

[@Timbodacious]

How does your dyno read the 8kw of phase amps? Its 4kw normal amps for their bac4000

[@Area13ebikes]

The dyno only reads horsepower and torque at the wheel. It doesn't measure amps or volts (not yet anyway)

[@lyriccycles]

This bike uses an asi bac 2000, our Voodoo uses the 4000

[@DonnellKeene-ht8cr]

What's the name of the Drone that you use?

[@Area13ebikes]

Skydio 2

[@bgd73]

I had guessed the motor would be roasting. On my bike it is called 1500w.. same dimenson motor. capped at 31mph...been to 38 just once. that is a great motor, diverse.

[@JoeHock-ds7ym]

FYI... close is code word for years out... ask Sparks how the Brute is coming around. Springtime possibly?

[@philipharrisson6894]

Does it come with side body bags?

[@blackswann9555]

Crash Trap Cycles 😂

[@CineBrew]

I'm torn between this bike and the Motor Goat. How do you think they stack up?

[@georgemckenzie2525]

Pedaling without full extension of the leg at the bottom of the stroke will destroy the knee joint.

[@RPMac]

Your reviews are incredible.......totally thorough!

[@ltserge3226]

awesome video thanks man i ordered the black one tuesday, what helmet are you using there?

[@Area13ebikes]

Last version of the ruroc.

[@christianibarra3961]

Cant tell which color i like more. Otis Blue, Green River, or Black!

[@quantumfx2677]

How does this compare to the Ristretto 512?

[@JCIIIBULLET]

8 kilowatts of power⁉️ Nice❕

[@sammybrown4680]

Great video great review rarely enjoyed watching.

[@BlairAir]

WATT THE HELL! Thats a lotta grunt right there. Charlie Watts would have loved this thing

[@MichaelFergusonVideos]

A Harley has about 90 hp which is equivalent to 90 x 745.7 or 67,300 watts , so 8000 watts is 8000 watts / 745.7 watts/hp = 10.7 HP or about 1/8th the power of a Harley. That is equivalent to about a 175 CC motorcycle which outputs 8,300 watts (FYRO 175)

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

Cool Bike Bro!!!!Thanks for the info about the Motorcycle Tires and rims

[@chow-chihuang4903]

It’s fine if you register and insure it as a light motorcycle, as that’s what it is. It is well beyond the class 1, 2, 3 categories of ebikes, and will only invite more restrictions on those ebikes if this is ridden on paths and bike lanes. Most states already consider this type of vehicle as a moped or light motorcycle. I see it has front turn signals, but it also needs better rear turn signals, side mirrors, a place to mount a license plate on the rear and a VIN to be able to register and insure it. Wise of them to equip it with more robust motorcycle rims and tires as I think most riders will use it in “off-road” mode.

[@arnesste000]

Why is your headlight broken and hanging there .

[@jacobjakubek1076]

Does the controller go up to 72v?

[@lyriccycles]

It has the capability yes, we don’t warranty changes to that voltage but it’s possible but would require a new controller tune

[@trollstomper242]

BAC2000 can easily take 72v, I built a bike with 52v and it is capable of ripping the drivetrain apart with just 52v. It is a midrive and will do over 50mph. You have to shift gears and go easy on it on the low end.

[@Survivallessons]

Maximum of 7,200 w. Nominal 3000 Watts.

[@mrcleanisin]

Good video. Was just wondering why your 8,000-watt ebike won't go 100mph like E-bikeguy?

[@Area13ebikes]

If he's going 100mph he's got way more power than 8kw.

[@Jumbo-D]

Sounds like a nice quality bike. However, more Amp Hours are needed to produce a suitable range.

[@mateomisterioso3708]

Price? Available in Europe?

[@mikemorgan8588]

Hot glue is actually pretty great for waterproofing, and there’s a black version.

[@lyriccycles]

That was just a prototype thing as we changed our power port type later in the process to fit better.

[@deklinstanelle9345]

AR Grizzly Dyno Test! Of course you'd only be able to do one motor at a time though

[@PG-yi9iz]

hello, what helmet are you wearing? thanks.

[@Area13ebikes]

Ruroc

[@parasiteeve365]

Can you do a review on the BIGNIU Electric Bike 2000W Dual Brushless Motor?

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

Why is it that an 8.000 watt motor is only getting the bike to around 45mph?I have a 1,000 watt motor that can do 40mph....

[@Area13ebikes]

You probably are drawing more power to ctually go 40mph. In my experience that takes about 1500 watts or so on a direct drive. The difference is that this is setup for a lot more torque. It also takes exponentially more power to increase speed.

[@KyleKick909]

I want dual 8000w motors.

[@DriverJ-N]

Just get an eride pro ss with pedals lol

[@ozzie159]

You need to rotate the throttle mount so your throttle on/off button is in right place and your cable won't be sticking up looking shite,,,

[@Jazzmarcel]

Great content!.......when to website and discovered a rear rack and side bars accessories! this makes this this thing the ultimate ebike for me! A bit expensive but damn , I got to get this! I thought the billy goat ebike was my next upgrade from my current roadrunner but now I know what to get!😂

[@BorealisNights]

Not trying to throw shade here but, my scooter is only 6000 watts max, and It tops out "officially" at 44 M/h(I've had it up to 46 with a quick flash of 47, on flat ground, no wind). Just figure 8000 wats should be able to hit say, 60ish?🤔 edit - By the way, I'm in Canada and can say we sell all sorts of e-vehicles with well over 500 watts... that's just something Lyric does, I guess by choice? (My scooter is made and sold by a Canadian company(Apollo Scooters), and as I said, 6000 watts max... even nominal motor ratings are 1250 per motor, (2500 watts total).✌🏼🇨🇦

[@kiwifruitguy]

Definitely love high powered ebikes but I really think you should gear up as if you're on a motorcycle. I have a bike no longer sold that I bought here in Canada with two 52v 20ah batteries and dual 1000w motors. It hits 60kmh and I have been riding in just a T-shirt in the hot weather recently. But I realize how unsafe and ridiculous that is, if I crash the helmet isn't going to do a whole lot except maybe prevent a fatal injury. Thinking about just riding it as a normal lower powered ebike(can change the settings to limit motors to 500w) until I can get more than just a helmet. I feel like I'm going to be miserable geared up but I'd rather do that than be bed ridden for months. Cool video anyway, If I had the money I'd definitely grab one of these no hesitation.

[@JohnBowl14690]

Great! Another SirRon with less ability to do jumps with. Price?

[@R_Jon]

He said $3,999

[@JohnBowl14690]

@@R_Jon - Thanks bro! Not bad, but I'll wait. $3300 and I might be in.

[@DriverJ-N]

@@JohnBowl14690why not goat power bikes motor goat v3 then? This graffiti x is faster than a surron btw but yea not a off-road bike like the surron

[@DriverJ-N]

I prefer this to the surron because it’s more legal lol😂 and faster and quieter..

[@JohnBowl14690]

@@DriverJ-N - I also looked at the Goat. Right now, the Wired Cruiser looks like the best choice for what I'm looking for. It's only $2K, but it looks totally street legal, with 3000 peak watts, dual batteries. Looking street legal is fairly important.

[@akdrumster]

nice. crazy fast but a100lb bike!? not crazy about it but a big win having a belt drive, rear motor/brakes operation you mentioned , motorcycle wheels & tires ...that I wish installed on my dual battery Ariel Rider Grizzly; which I believe runs just as fast, and IMO better looking bike (upon upgrading tires, pitch both fenders and installing bmx handlebars).

[@vardanfitness7866]

Hey Kyle, great video that Dyno test was super impressive, but I would love to know what your actual top speed was on the bike because it seems as if you are a bit lighter than Mike and closer to my actual weight. Thanks

[@Area13ebikes]

I feel confident saying 49mph on a full charge and 150lbs.

[@USBR35]

Good job on the review!

[@nicksanta]

Hello I have a 26 inch tire version. It can go 70MPH. I use it to go to town 45 miles away. I ride at 40mph. It is just too fast otherwise. I can ride to town towing a trailer shop and return. The 85V battery just barley lasts the distance. I would share that an 85 volt battery will kill you. I can't get a license. I am 74 and disabled. Regards

[@edsedlak6827]

That is 11 horsepower but with electric motor torque.

[@Kevin-metal]

How are you filming this a drone amazing job looking forward to your other videos immediate subscriber❤

[@El_Guap]

Gosh I hate that ALL the e-bike reviewers live in Flat Land City. I guess top speed on flat is important to you guys, but torque and speed on 9-12% hills for a football field or two several times in a 15 mile ride... that's what I care about (So Cal Coastal). I hate that even with a 52V system (Revv1 52V40aH 35A) I am dropping to ~ 15mph and stopping up traffic when there is nothing more than a minimal and uncleaned bike gutter (not a bike lane). With a bike like this a responsible adult is not going over the speed limit with it. Hey I can his 42mph on my skinny tire road bike going down a hill no problem. Yeah, with this type of bike... full Moto helmet, get some mirrors, a Garmin Varia and a Ride Free Brake light on your helmet with any bike like this. And yeah... It's not a motorcycle... it doesn't have a clutch, doesn't have gears and it's doesn't struggle at low speeds due to 400+lbs of weight; all you have is a front and right brake with an twist throttle. It's far simpler and safer for an average user to use day 1, ride 1. At $4k it's kind of a steal (Direct drive, 60V40aH, MT5e, DLR, turn signals, brake lights)... but I think I would buy a used Onyx RCR.

[@jacobjakubek1076]

If you want to actually pedal this is 10x better than the rcr

[@lyriccycles]

We have hill climbs on our channel plus other reviewers doing 15% or more grades showing the bike can maintain a 40 mph+ speed up major hills

[@rprw1041]

Coming to a local park or street by Jonny. What else is a 14 year old to do when his parents are at work. But he’s such a good brat

[@Area13ebikes]

I sure hope not. Definitely too fast for most teenagers.

[@warlockboyburns]

i got ztto 4 piston breaks for $40 and they are amazing lol

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

Close to a Sur Ron with a pedal kit.

[@jamilkakati8125]

Awesome!!

[@tomindia9420]

8000 watts it should do over 50 mph realistically if otherwise it's geared for torque

[@z3r0x456]

It's so awesome! I want one!

[@mrobertson188]

Great professional review

[@ELECTRICBIKEDIYLIFE]

It's all legal in California, as long as you slap a 750W sticker on the motor, lol. I've got 16" dual sport tires on my XP 2.0. Getting flat tires has gone way down. Now if Lectric had better more durable rear wheels on their bikes, I'd be all set. On a recent 14.79 mile ride, I literally broke 8 spokes in the rear wheel by the time I got home. Let's just say it made for one really, really long KZbin video. I could've and should've probably made 3 videos out of it but I've got a couple of viewers that like really long videos. It's hard trying to keep everybody happy.

[@blintzkreig1638]

Torque is 27% greater so it is more like a quarter greater, not a third.

[@whitepawrolls]

"People want a 40mph bike" Reprogram a bafang 750w mid drive motor removing the speed limit, and with the proper gear used you can get this. Also saw a guy just use a different tire size in the setup to trick it into thinking it was going slower than it was. :)

[@mikefrazier3826]

Wow! I want one

[@Brue58]

Handle bars are a little to low

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

Bunch of hills and high speed you have to stop and let this bike cool. In hot weather. I Think this might be the weak point. Achilles heel. Needs a potted controller and cooling fins on the motor. Heat sinking.

[@greysuit17]

45mph should be legal and standard to keep up with traffic in a city environment.

[@RicLevine]

Should it be allowed??? Absolutely. Just as long as it's classified as a motorcycle and not a bike...because I didn't see a lot of pedaling going on.

[@steven1498]

😂😂😂

[@techjunkie1815]

ONLY pedal when you see cops 😝

[@patsquach4080]

Regen breaking Extra points !!

[@wood-wheel-wizard]

Yes! It should be allowed! What kind of silly question is this?

[@steven1498]

😆😆😆