SHOULD'VE NEVER MARRIED ME | 90 Day Fiancé: Happily Ever After S8 E17

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[@LynnJung]

Everyone says Michael was playing the long game, I say you're wrong. I think he truly loved her, but never expected to be held hostage, beaten, tortured, and tased repeatedly before he escaped. I'm so glad he's away from this crazy women. She gives all American's a bad name.

[@Junitunes]

The group chat she found was red flags though. He literally has a business on how to do visa scams, goes as far as life insurance. Which to me makes me question if they'll kill their wives they're scamming.

[@MiaFantastic]

Your close. Michael is from another culture that may explain his not knowing the signs of white trash. Once in America a few days you tend to see who the filth is from the helpful god fearing folks. Oh his IG people warned him for years he is making the wrong move. Now he is free. Imagine that being a word still used today

[@anthonyporter1556]

@@Junitunes Instead of junitunes it should be looneytunes bcuz you sound just as dumb as Angela. Why would he give Angela his phone to see he is in a scamming business and has plans to kill her. Even she realized she was stupid for jumping to conclusions without listening to the real story

[@Missemeka]

​@Junitunes lmao. No. In Nigeria things are done way differently than in countries like the USA Australia etc. Their gvt is corrupt and their electricity is unstable and things are just done differently there. Things that seem dodgy always aren't. Most ppl there don't even know what life insurance is. And to get a passport and visa there ppl can apply and get scammed themselves the nigerian ppl. Alot of things there are done in sketchy ways cos of the way things are done there. The ppl know no different. Unless u know naija ppl for a long time u wouldn't understand what things are like there. Even those that do scam aren't always bad ppl just hungry ppl with no options. It's sad.

[@ameleiizane]

For real. If he really wanted to use someone for a visa, he had plenty of time to replace Angela with someone much younger and way nicer. He hasn’t gained anything from the show because Angela keeps all of the money.

[@Arista177]

Thais did not tell her father that she was getting married. She now expects Patrick to ask for a blessing that she caused the problem in the first place. I believe John can make friends with anyone- He is easygoing.

[@angellight9500]

Angela's grandchildren have no fathers in their lives and it appears that since they have to live with narcissistic Angela they have no mother's who are responsible for them either. Angela refused to let Michael work. She confiscated all of his papers so he couldn't be independent in any way and in her mind it seems she had decided that Michael's role in their family life was to be the babysitter so her daughters and she would have more domestic help. What man would say yes to that? You wouldn't Madzie. That's for sure.

[@boosqueezy2418]

one of angela’s daughters is in prison for m*lesting a child, i think. that or statutory grape.

[@guillermoestevez1168]

🎯

[@amadapedro9147]

I totally agree. But scamming a horrible person still makes you a scammer. It's just a lot easier to ignore that fact with Michael because of everything that he has been through

[@michynature]

@@amadapedro9147🎯🎯🎯🎯👏👏👏👏👏 Exactlyyyyyy

[@luckyone5648]

Michael had not been over here long enough to work even if he wanted to. If you come over on a marriage visa there is a waiting period before you can start working.

[@barbaramarkham4736]

Thais has to man up so to speak and tell her Father that she stopped Patrick from contacting her Father early on. She seems to like stirring the pot. Where was Patrick supposed to learn how to handle this situation. His Father was never around, and when he was, he was a dreadful example. Patrick is trying to become close to Carlos. Thais is the one that could make this situation be resolved. She frustrates me. I do believe Michael originally loved Angela and thought life in America was going to be all roses. It was very different than what he thought! Thank you Madzie, love your reviews every time. ♥️

These low class tramps playing a sucker

[@gwenharshfield6705]

Loren doesn’t know what she wants. A mommy makeover that laid her up for months, now she wants another baby. Wants to stay home, wants to work. And, she’s a spoiled little brat.

[@IloveKurtCobain-z5k]

Did you watch the show until the end? She said she wanted another fat transfer to make her boobs bigger....smh

[@eileencairns9884]

agree with you. if she cared about her 3 adorable babies. oh my shame on her selfish spoiled ways. she had no problem shopping for clothes and looked no better. her husband sacrifices and she is not nice

[@IloveKurtCobain-z5k]

@@eileencairns9884 In 40 years she will look like her Mom.

[@TiffaneSmith-ni9lc]

In my opinion, Ashley's insecure and financially irresponsible behind should have never married him at all period. Ashley should have known that Manuel is playing her just like a piano and Manuel should have only came to America with a work visa in order to get a job to send money back to take care of his kids.

[@kendallpaige007]

She’s dumb! These issues should have been addressed head on BEFORE the marriage! Is it getting played if she’s a willing participant of the game? Has she ever even spoken to his children over the phone?! His wife?? Yeah right.

[@isabellancali5388]

To me, it seems like a transactional relationship. The way they were talking in the last episode made it seem she agreed to help him get on his feet in USA so he can make a living and return back home with the money saved to build a home and support his family there. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Friends do help each other sometimes and yes, there are “relationships” where the foreigner pays the American so that they can change their foreign status to resident so that they can work, send money back and have a better future. Maybe it’s the way the producers edited their storyline or maybe they are showing an example of such type of relationships/friendships that do exist. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@TiffaneSmith-ni9lc]

@@isabellancali5388 exactly. It is a business relationship

[@janitamantel5333]

you forget that she give him 100.000 dollar in debt, she never tell him before married

[@cynthiagerold2340]

On Emily’s side. You all can buy a vacation home (rent it when not in use) and take the kids there on vacation to visit their grandparents and others, when they are on school holidays.

[@joywebster2678]

They haven't even bought a house to live in despite having 3 kids!

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

Emily did too much too soon. Kobe was expressing a possibility, not demanding for it to happen. She shouldn't have mentioned it to her parents if and only if they decide to move to Cameroon. And that conversation should be with them together.

[@sarahd.787]

If Angela wouldn’t have been a snag he would have stayed. He’s young, I don’t blame him for wanting a better life after her wasting so much of his time.

[@lucybridle2375]

Angela is more at fault for putting those kids in this position.

[@annicklagace7414]

Absolutely.. What was he supposed to do ? Those kids were non stop in the picture .. calls.. video calls.. Was he supposed to say " ohh! I just saw/heard a kid around ..I'm hanging up !!" And then in america .. was he supposed to do like so many other dysfunctional couples .. and stay for the kids ?? 😂 I don't think Michael would have left the way he did if Angela's abuse didn't get so bad in america ..

[@anthonynales4910]

Angela and her daughter who is a convicted predator.

[@michelleallred8521]

There is NO WAY Emily is gonna move to Cameron! First off, she wouldn't have her parents to live off of lol

[@marlenebryant4250]

Agree! Disgusting in every way possible! 🤮🤮🤮 The kids will not be in a loving, peaceful house at all. It seems to be very untidy, and most like they eat a lot of junk food, fast food, and not taught how to be good decent people. Just my thought. No, I don’t live in that house, thank God.

[@pinkivy93]

Michael was put through a lot with Angela. She should not have exposed the children to him until everything was stable. Was he supposed to stay there and be mistreated?

[@cynthiagerold2340]

Carlos wake up and smell the coffee, PATRICK is a grown man he don’t have to put any effort for you to like him. Talk with your daughter, she’s the one to apologize to you. Patrick stop trying with Carlos, let him come to you.

[@rosegriffis2129]

Finally, someone remembers her not even telling her Dad she to be married, it was Patrick who made her tell her Dad in the first place, so if he wants to be mad, he should be mad at his daughter

[@cdonwhite]

Based on the state of Angela's house....90 day pays in clout, not cash

[@loveylady7965]

tlc didn't make angela a slob no amount of money can change that

[@janitamantel5333]

she use it for plastic cirugy and a sports car

[@lucybridle2375]

Kobe is wrong for making decisions based on feelings and impulse. At least go home and make plans.

[@vellabella1]

Kobe has always been impulsive look how they met and got pregnant. How is marriage working thus far, it was built on getting pregnant . I really do not wish good for their relationship. Sorry for the kids , 90 day akways has the worst parents

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

I think Kobe was throwing an idea out, not saying we are moving immediately.

[@michelleallred8521]

As a mom who had no choice but to work full time, it grates my nerves to see moms who are blessed enough to be able to be home w their children & would rather their kids spend time w other people. Heck, she had Shay in "school" when he was a yr old?!?!?! Moms who can stay home w their kids need to understand just how lucky they are

[@everythingtraumaic5069]

Ashley has known the deal about this guy for years and she still chooses to be there--in my opinion a weakness in her character. She is fearful of letting go of this dude to her own detriment and she complains about it all the time, when she continues to choose this. I have no empathy for her. Her choice belongs to her not the dude--take responsibility for your self .

[@spicybsoup]

Exactly! She is a tarot reader yet doesn't practice self-awareness.

[@my2cents3773]

Facts!

[@everythingtraumaic5069]

Thais's dad lest we forget, is childish and immature. I could see him befriending John just to rub this is Patrick's face. Let's face it, what does John stand for that her father can respect?I see this as a direct attempt to get to Patrick by befriending JOhn.

[@tminatorrrr]

😂 I love thais dad. All patrick had to do was say can I have ur blessing. He's being stubborn cos he's got one thing to hold over thais dad so God bless him loving john more 😂he's playing right back

[@MsSweetoothj]

I do think that Thais could help the situation by coming clean and telling her dad she lied to him and stopped Patrick from communicating his intentions with his daughter before she went to the US. I do think her dad is a little overbearing but at the same time it's the actions that Thais did that compounded into where the situation is right now. I also think that if Patrick were to tell her dad the real real then it would also not end well either.

[@iesha7357]

You don't think he's been abused as well? You just think he's a scammer and that's it?

[@annicklagace7414]

Ya.. people seem to forget all of a sudden when another situation comes up .. What was he supposed to do .. stay for the kids ?? 😂

[@alix73]

Imo Thiese is unbelievably immature! I am shocked at her bratty behavior. She is the problem. Anglea has some hoarding issues! What a dang mess. I would be so embarrassed for the world to see that mess!Alexei is an a*s! He is so selfish and this episode showed his real personality.😮

[@alexxC37]

I have a theory on why Gino doesn’t have intimacy with his wife. I think Jasmine is telling the truth. The clues are that 1) remember way back when they finally saw each other in person in the first season they were in? Jasmine complained gino went to the bathroom to do things by himself even before they had a chance to. 2) Jasmine mentioned she got her cookie tightened because gino couldn’t finish. I didn’t know that there was an issue that men who have been single a long time, who get used to only doing things by themselves sometimes can’t finish with a partner because women just aren’t going to feel like what they were doing before, until I dated someone with the problem. They are used to one way and that can make them loose sensitivity if they’re too rough too. Add in his addiction to watching the hub too much and he’s not even interested in a real woman. The fights can for sure be an added factor but I think this is something gino has mostly done to himself. He refuses to even recognize the problem. It can be fixed but it doesn’t look like he even wants to try anything. He just keeps saying it’s only jasmines fault.

[@icantwiththis]

And the pills

[@rayvalenzuela5023]

It’s like watching Pedro and Chantel, she lies and the father hates him for it

[@isabellancali5388]

I thought of them, too. Rob also reminds me of Pedro when he was dancing with Coriama and when she was all up on him grinding.

[@teddya916]

So it was glossed over that he took the $1,000 to have a better life but he couldn't use that money he took to send to his family? So he stole the 1,000 to squirrel away for himself then came back to her to fund HIS family. Where is the $1,000 brother?

[@MsSweetoothj]

Gino is a douche but I think he suffers from sunk cost fallacy, he sunk so much money into this relationship and bear in mind this is his 2nd K1 so will also be the last because you only can apply a maximum of 2 times. At this point he had to see it through. Jasmine has alway shown her mental instability, what she needs is therapy and not words of affirmation. She has no accountability for her actions to date and even if Gino wasn't such a douch any reasonable man would have ditched Jasmine long time ago.

[@vellabella1]

Gino is a lifetime trick or john. He likes buying womens attention and affection. He cannot do it with this charm or looks. He likes sex workers and when it gets "real" he ia ill equipped

[@cynthiageskes1457]

Drives me crazy that Patrick doesn't tell Thais to tell her father the truth- or if she won't tell the father what his daughter did.

[@anthonyporter1556]

Bcuz he is a simp ass wimp that is finally getting some on the reg for the 1st time in his life and is afraid he won't be able to get anymore if he pisses Thais off. She seems like the type to punish him by not doing it for a very long time.

[@SusanCanada]

Angela did this allllllll for fame. She wanted the money tlc was paying. If she took the children into consideration she would not have brought Michael in imo

[@adamwrobel6485]

90 DF is a fire dumpster 😂 We should expect nothing more or less from these people like an extreme nonsense for 10 minutes of fame 🤪

They wanna be stars on tv. They don’t get union pay. Cheap

[@Junitunes]

Im confused are we just forgetting the fact she found that he was running a visa scam business that teaches men how to do visa scams and get life insurance on their wives... Whaaaat? Did we just forget that?

[@joywebster2678]

It was shown she misunderstood derstoid what she saw, she said sorry and they had makeup sex.

[@michelleallred8521]

If Dirty Bird is as rich as she says she is, id have gotten a better house ALONE!!! Let her kids raise their kids!! 6 kids w undisciplined chaos, id have run too

[@energydoesntlie]

Imagine the noise in that house especially with Angela yelling all day 😭

[@ashleyterryYT]

Good morning. Somewhat new Subscriber. Two months in… I have to say I love the content, love it. Your accent is amazing, all your videos has food for thought. It’s good to hear a man’s perspective on situations like this. I am a woman and love to learn and I have to say I have learned a couple of things just by watching your videos. Thank you for what you do. Keep up the great work. Have a great week

[@Mandii271]

Facts

[@movingmad.]

@@ashleyterryYT thank you

[@txkitkat1307]

Gaslighting in the worse way ,taking advantage of kids is quite pathetic!

[@CookingAndDogs]

I never thought i would be on Emilys side but here I am. The kids wont remember anything for a long time.. Maybe a play for the show

[@carolhenny2790]

Definitely scripted for the show.

[@tamaraperras9853]

Thank you for the episode reviews. I can't watch it anymore.

[@cynthiagerold2340]

Where’s the fathers of those 6 kids? That house is so untidy, I cannot blame the kids their MOTHER N GRANDMOTHER should clean and give the kids chores. So sad 😢

[@DarkHairedCurlyOne]

Multiple baby daddies

[@chrystalthornton1502]

Wonder if TLC is going to show Angela (allegedly) tasing Michael. Apparently she clamped down on him because she could feel him pulling at the leash once he got here.

[@MyCatsChannel841]

Omg 😮

[@CiaobellaAmour]

Damn 😮

[@hiptinasha8473]

Angela knew it was going to end, she didn't love Michael, she would have dropped him in a second for that tiktok dancer daddy. I totally agree with you about the kids.

[@jennad1078]

I agree with you Kobe is wrong in this situation. He has no clear plan. He is just going on emotion and the fact he misses his family & friends. He had no answer re how much he would be making & what he would be doing for work. That right there was enough for her to say no. Now if he comes with a full plan then maybe.

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

He was also pushed under the bus before they could discuss the move again...she's acting like he demanded that they moved.

[@kpersons]

I am all for Loren having a career. However, she has three young children at home, and has said she is unsure about not having another. She would like her children to be all close in age. Given this scenario, I think she needs to wait until her children are of school age. She is fortunate that she does not need to work right now. Alexi is making enough money to support the family. If she chooses to go back to work now, her children will need full time child care. I doubt her mom will move in to fulfill that role. Once the children are in school childcare will only be needed before/after school and on school breaks. Again, unlike most other working mothers, it is not crucial nor necessary for Loren to bring home an income. If she is looking to fulfill herself, let being a hands on mom while her children are young be that fulfillment. It is only for a few more years, then she can spread her wings.

[@annicklagace7414]

She's rushing everything .. I said the same, do it when the kids are in school.. She did the same with surgery .. doing that when your baby is 1, and u have 3 under 3, is selfish. And she's talking another surgery already cuz she's not happy with the first .. 🙄

[@joywebster2678]

With her tourettes, OCD, and imbalanced decision making, I'd want for her to stay as mom while pursuing some therapy to help her re center, and plan her goals, and pace them with her 3 kids needs. She has a mommy makeover, then goes on media saying she wants another baby! Really does she or is it just hard to let go of that phase? So that's where therapy could help, and healthy choices made. She chose a trad husband from another trad country, so that's a factor in how you move as well.

[@annicklagace7414]

@joywebster2678 yup.. She's trying to all of a sudden make all the decisions on her own .. Going back to work is a couple decision.. just as her stopping work and having kids was .. Adding another kid is also.. u don't just announce that online like she did.. and be like " oh ya Alex.. just told all these people I might want another kid , surprise !" And therapy would help immensely.. with her body dismorphia also.. cuz she's already talking about more surgery on this episode , saying she's not satisfied with the results.

[@know-your-worth7641]

Children always suffer from the beginning of time. How sad and unfair Nobody takes responsibility for it because Angela & Micheal are both selfish when it comes to them little ones

[@shayshay7409]

Those kids will get over the man on the computer. Hopefully their dad can step up

[@anthonyporter1556]

@@shayshay7409 From the looks of it, there have been many different dads on the scene

[@crazymetalgranny5236]

Michael met the Kids for the first Time in real Life. He's not related to them, so why are they his Problem? Where are the Fathers and how many Fathers are we talking about? Skylar is their Mother, so it's her Job Period....what about Birth Control, it's so easy to not have Kids with every Man who looks at you 😂😂😂

[@yomamaspapas]

Dude your Hella wrong, Angela is so abusive! She mistreats Micheal and the anger in her eyes makes me think she could seriously hurt him. Micheal has earned his citizenship 100 fold no doubt lol

[@rosemarythornton9054]

Manuel is gaslighting Angela..telling her what she wants to hear so he can get what he wants from her, which is $$$$

[@rosemarythornton9054]

As far as Lauren mommy makeover goes I don't see any difference in her body..maybe that's just me.

[@jpi8833]

You are aby right these pook kids should have never been able to interact with him nomatter how long the relationship has been its still a toxic one and thats all kids pick up on

[@Woots78]

What happened to John’s girlfriend??

[@jakethedog4397]

Yeah! Didn’t he move in with her?? I totally forgot that

[@brianawhittaker8152]

Probably back in the states or maybe they broke up. She was a walking red flag wanting to move way too fast with him.

[@loveylady7965]

Who would want to be John's gf

[@lucybridle2375]

Was wondering that as well.

[@marianasantos1336]

They got married and had a baby. I'm not kidding! What we see on Sunday evenings is old news from almost a year ago. I snoop the spoiler sites for more up to date information.

[@amadapedro9147]

Being married to a non native English speaker, I wouldn't have used the word cheerleader. It gets lost in the translation. Partner would have been better.

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

She meant someone to support her career goals. That is a type of cheerleader, supporter, to encourage and push you when needed. Also, Loren was working when she had their first child.

[@amadapedro9147]

@@shahnjaylaconnors1476 I understand perfectly what she meant. But having been married to a non native English speaker for 21 years I can say from experience word choice is important. Most times when you are speaking metaphorically it gets lost in translation

[@michelleallred8521]

Please for the sake of our ears, don't ever say "MeeMaw" again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@missmia3920]

😂😂

[@carolhenny2790]

Kobe has no plan! Emily didn’t take him from Cameroon. The hooked up in China where he was working as a model. He may have been doing good by himself, but he has a family now and no plan. Job, home, schools, health insurance. His he really thinking of the family or himself?

[@everythingtraumaic5069]

Just can't stand or stomach Emily and her family. Cobe is not a child, but Emily is. She constantly goes to her parents in business that does not belong to them and is private to her and Cobe. She consistently behaves in this disrespectful way to Cobe by bringing them into their personal affairs. It is a gang up on Kobe. She acts so privileged but without her parents where would she be? Get off the t-t Emily and be a grown woman. I do not respect her in the least.

[@MsSweetoothj]

Emily is very entitled, still living in her parents house at her big age. I remember when Kobe wanted to move to another state (the one where his friend Temperature lives) where there was a large Cameroonian community and he can network, she put her foot down straight away because she knew that moving out of her parents house would require her to actually work and contribute financially to the household something that she doesn't have to do now because she has that safety net of her parents.

[@robaroy2269]

Emily is going to have to be financially responsible once her parents have passed away as part of their lives. ​@MsSweetoothj

[@anthonyporter1556]

@@MsSweetoothj So all she wants to do is lay up and have baby after baby and Kobe is not smart for falling for it.

[@nikkirockznikkirockz8551]

@@robaroy2269 She's waiting to get that house from them!

[@nikkirockznikkirockz8551]

@@MsSweetoothj She might be able to stay at home and not work once they move, but she wants to have her babysitter parents and she also doesn't want to live around too many Blacks, while standing out as a White woman-like Kobe's situation in reverse! 😉

[@FakeApologize]

I love how Nicole loves Miguel now because she got her wish and completely broke him down and demasculinized him and turned him into a crying beta.

[@annicklagace7414]

Who's nicole and miguel ??

[@1022Motivation]

Ashley and Manuel​@@annicklagace7414

[@anthonyporter1556]

Who is Nicole and Miguel?

[@LunaNovaTarot]

Ashley and manuel?

[@michelleallred8521]

They're over 30, married w 3 kids, so it's time to GOOOOO!!!!! My ex sis in law had her 2nd & her parents gave her 6mo to find a place to live. Once is one thing but twice is a no go

[@ericw8478]

I don't think Carlos would feel any different about Patrick even if Thais had told him the truth.He just seems to have a chip om his shoulder cuz Patrick knocked up his "precious little girl".

[@Gina-yu5xm]

Every time Jasmine tells Gino what she thinks about him, he always resorts to making weird facial expressions with his mouth; just watch for it.

[@emilyndu338]

Alexie needs grace. Its not because people are on TV that they are not human. But, he the timing was very wrong and he apologised after he cool down. And I am a woman mum of 4, so 3 young children would be veeery hard to handle. It seems like L is ruining with life. At those kids ages, it is not time to start figuring out a carrier. Her energy needs to be there until they can take themselves to the toilet, feed themselves and gain some independence. For me, it is all about how she feels at the moment, she is already wanting more, I don't think she has the patience life as a adult, a wife, a mum demands. She wants it now. She needs therapy more than anything else.

[@ktroy9642]

Do you think Lauren as you said “PUT HER KIDS FIRST” by having COSMETIC surgery? NO she didn’t. She is just like Jasmine she doesn’t care about her kids only her self and her back side

[@kendallschaos]

Thank you for saying how wrong Michael was for playing games with those kids' hearts. I know Angie was wrong to Michael and he lied to her about everything. Bad situation

[@joywebster2678]

Half the kids have a mother in prison, so are being raised by an aunt and me maw, the others no Dad raised by mom and me maw. But everything is mykul fault? I think he planned to live alone with Angela, with the grandkids nearby. But he arrived and turned into babysitter, papers removed, abused, and he left for safety. The kids mother will drag through bfs for ever. Memaw doesn't care.

[@AntiscampoliceTV]

Don't forget that Kobe and Emily got married because of a pregnancy from a one night stand. They had no real plans and they are still staying in Emily's parents basement. 😮

[@carolhenny2790]

That may be the case, but he willingly moved to USA to do the right thing. They had time before marriage to discuss the possibility of moving back to his Country. She then would have the choice to say “Hello No!”. If that was me, he’d be moving back by himself.

[@honnipot]

You don't blame Micheal for what the kids are exposed to. You blame Angela and they Moms. It's not his responsibility to be worried about them kids 🙄 we don't know if Michael had a plan to leave or not.

[@NF-hh3qq]

There are many who have confirmed that Gino is not intimate with any woman. The former sugar baby, Linzi, whom Gino tried to make jealous even though she was not interested in him, and he was the one who harassed her and communicated with her even though she ignored him. She said that Gino said the reason for his divorce from his Brazilian ex-wife was that there was no sex, and also I read a comment from someone who said his ex friend's dated Gino for years and she said that he preferred adult videos to being intimate. Gino himself in the first appearance. He said that he had not been intimate with any woman for years, although it was revealed in Tell All that he had gone on more than 100 paid dates with a sugar babies.

[@ickslynga21]

Cut the BS!!! MANUEL IS 💯 USING HER! PERIOD! & SHE IS SO SAD/ THIRSTY TO INVITE THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR ON HERSELF!!! SHE HAS BEEN TRAINING HIM HOW TO USE HER & DEAL WITH HER. PERIOD.

[@ktroy9642]

Lauren is like JASMINE she does not care about her kids! No caring mother is going to under the knife risking her life when she has three young children.. Lauren like Jasmine is all ME ME ME.

[@mmmeaks2245]

I lived in 4 countries before I was 11. I didn’t struggle moving at all. I think the younger the better, kids are very adaptable at that age. When they’re teenagers it’s more likely to be an absolute nightmares. If Kobe wants his children to understand their roots, he should wait until they’re an age where they can remember it…

[@IloveKurtCobain-z5k]

I agree with everything you say Madzie. Gino did find her on a Baby Sugar website. I have nothing else to add except maybe in the beginning Michael did love her and after the abuse- he changed his mind and used her.

[@terry1545]

Team Alex on this one He has been supporting her He probably just snapped He was also worried about his family it just nonstop for her. Her children are little You know how expensive daycare and nanny cost she should wait until the kids are little older. Maybe he doesn’t want someone else raising his children and to be honest she is lucky that she can stay home There parents who can’t afford it. To be honest you can’t trust nobody with your kids nowadays Now she wants another child She needs counseling she don’t know what she wants nothing satisfies her. Alex is a good husband and father. But there only so much someone can take. Postpartum, Body surgery, Job, family in a middle of a war, now another child Alex is a saint

[@macmaddox6946]

Yeah right, living in Cameroon is also waaay hotter than living in your American in-laws' basement 😂😮😅 !!! 🔥❤🎉

[@rosemarythornton9054]

Kobe wants to move back to Cameroon because he was so happy to be around his family and his close friend Valery..

[@kahdijahmcdonald6363]

No Manuel keeping secrets but Ashley knew this before she married him and should have corrected this issue about her family before hand

[@oatsuzn]

Ashley broke Manuel down. That was her intentions the entire time. Women like her need to feel like they have all the power in a relationship. She probably has some abandonment issues. She chose an impoverished man that can't work, can't even speak English. So he would be dependent on her and less likely to leave. Someone she could mother, smother and be in control of.

[@kahdijahmcdonald6363]

Jasmine is gaslighting why she did not go back to see her mother she is selfish and untrustworthy none of this is real

[@kahdijahmcdonald6363]

Dad can not put all the blame.on Patrick his daughter never takes responsibility for anything she can't just say and do what she wants to everyone without consequences

[@Velvetsky831]

Your.1000 percent right about Alex. My husband has.same.mentality. I am mommy and daddy and he cries if things arent convenient for him. That why im getting a divorce!

[@carolhenny2790]

Kobe has no plan! Emily didn’t take him from Cameroon. They hooked up in China where he was working as a model. He may have been doing good by himself, but he has a family now and no plan. It’s not just a Job, it’s home, schools, health insurance that will be completely different. Is he really thinking of the family or himself?

[@terry1545]

I felt really bad for the grand kids Micheal knew I don’t think Angela had any clue Micheal had a escape plan The kids are the ones who suffer Angela bedroom was a hot mess she knew he was coming that was absolutely disgusting grown woman clean your home

[@naijawife1891]

If I had been abused, had my identification taken, held hostage as an indentured servant, I probably would've concocted an escape olan too😊

[@melanieschramm7523]

The moving is a very obvious plot twist thrown in by producers to create drama. Remember Yara "wanted" to do it...., Alexie "wanted" to do it and now Kobi. The storyline plot twist is old. I wouldn't even entertain it to be honest because it's a made up common plot line.

[@ameleiizane]

You don’t know what Michael was planning to do. You’ve seen how abusive Angela is. He didn’t stay with her and put up with her for 7 years to scam her. He could have left her and replaced her with another woman by now if that was the case. If he stayed with Angela, they would be appearing on the show SNAPPED. He said he feared for his life and Angela tazed him. So it’s pretty wild of you to ignore those facts and call the dudes scammer.

[@coloradobum22]

It's kind of nice seeing these clips because I haven't watched since like the 3rd or 4th episode Angela is reason number one and then also Lauren and Alexis

[@cherylhallavant5760]

That's Angela fault. She is the one pushing their relationship on Michael. What was Michael supposed to do?

[@kahdijahmcdonald6363]

Emily and her family are too controlling to that man and he used his friends to get his point across Kobei is resentful but instead of handling it correctly by providing stability so he can move out the parents house into their. Own place in Us he deflects

[@beatricehanley3542]

Thais is so immature. Lied to her dad about plans to get married to Patrick, but now wants him to ask for his blessing? He was up for telling Carlos, but she wouldn’t have it. Kinda a$$ backwards. Thais needs to tell her dad the whole truth and ask for forgiveness for not following their family’s traditions and culture. Tell him she married a great guy that loves her to pieces and an awesome daddy to their daughter. Putting Patrick through all the father-in-law antics needs to end.

[@rvtsecure]

Im starting to understand why lauren wanted surgery, alex is so rude, doesnt even want to support her, he probably doesn't ever praise her, make her feel like she doesn't need surgery, so insecure he is

[@marlenebryant4250]

I don’t like or respect either of these . Don’t like Kobe, don’t like Emily. In this case, Emily is right. It’s like people who take babies to Disney! Young kids will never remember that they were ever there. Those trips are for the parents, not the kids. Kobe again is being very irresponsible. Like his pumping out three kids! Yes, Emily was also responsible, but I think they both had different motives for having all those kids.

[@kyralowry4708]

I am right there with you on kobe and Emily. Emily seems like the person I really wouldn't like on paper yet she seems like she can be a really sweet person if you meet her in real life. I don't think either of them are genuine. And Thies? Ugh definitely cannot stand her lol😂

[@ZumbaZINJPanda]

The conversation beyond Emily and Kobe should have been had between those two. Mom and Dad should stay out of it. They made three humans without their input. I believe Kobe had every right to bring up moving to his country for a while, why not? What job does Emily have in the states that would keep her there?

[@michelleallred8521]

OMG I can't believe you said that about Gino!! Lmao!!! My 1st husband told me he'd rather do it himself than w me & it ended up he WAS gay

[@terry1545]

Carlos is over the top Patrick tried to go fishing Carlos needs to realize Patrick was doing what his wife wanted. I don’t think anything that Patrick does will be good enough anyway Or TLC is adding this script lately I’m not believing half the stuff that goes on

[@marianasantos1336]

Carlos is extremely arrogant.

[@rosemarythornton9054]

I blame Patrick wife for the problem between her husband and her dad Carlos..she should have been honest with her dad and told him of her her intentions to marry Patrick when she got to the United States

[@annicklagace7414]

Not gonna lie.. the carlos and john situation had my laughing out loud 😂 Thais even tried for her dad to not like him.. and it changed nothing thankfully .. Patrick.. is trying to hard, same as with his own dad .. Im not for this whole blessing thing..i personaly think its stupid.. but its so simple, just do it and get it over with and quit complaining. And while ur at it.. tell him the teuth about how this became a situation.. tell him how is daughter started it.. as always

[@marlenebryant4250]

Hire a nanny!! Alexis and Lauren. There are very good Nannie’s out there. I had some!

[@marlenebryant4250]

No way can Jasmine win even a runner up! Only a small percentage of her is real. Didn’t the lady who runs the show mention. Something about the amount of “work” done?

[@rebeccacrakow2918]

I think Gino has extreme ED issues where even the blue pill doesn’t work!! It’s a serious issue- Even if the blue pill works- it’s not enough for intimacy with a woman ( in his situation) I’m surprised you didn’t mention the mess in Angela’s bedroom 😮😮was there even room on the bed? Wow

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

Exactly, he has a big medical issue. Now she is calm, he doesn't believe that she is hurt. Why does she have to act crazy and cry to get him to listen. Also, Gino seems to lack some emotional intelligence or how to give compassionate constructive feedback.

[@savewildlife439]

Loren wanted to be a stay at home mom & Alexi has been busting butt to provide.. & for her to get a mommy makeover, then want to work, then talking about having a 4th child & then wanting ANOTHER mommy make over for bigger boobs.. How is anyone finding Alexi as the problem?!? He changed diapers and helps a lot with the kids even before all her indecisive mess!! She needs therapy!

[@madaboo889]

I'm be honest maybe on Alex and his wife should have been married cuz their issues can be worked through the rest of them shouldn't have made it pass the swipe right on tender sadly

[@AngelicaElias-e8h]

How does Ashley have all of these degrees but no common sense??? When Manuel was in Ecuador he was a provider and helped his family. Now that he's not there and is not able to work in the US he is asking her to help.. And he says that if Ashley doesn't continue to help he will go back to Equador.. He will go back because he can work there TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY THERE.. Also at what point does she grow up and understand that regardless of who he is sending the money to (ex gf or other family) at least some of the money is to provide for his children.. Ashley knew he wasn't going to be able to work right away and that she was going to have to take care of him.

[@crosales8184]

I don't agree with you on Michael. I think he wanted to be with Angela but couldn't take the abuse anymore. You're messed up for saying he's wrong. Was he supposed to stay with her after she used a taser on him? I think I might unsub. I'm tired of the double standards when it comes to male domestic abuse victims. Shame on you for not calling out Angela's behavior.

[@fionasmith-bz8ox]

He wanted a green card and was willing to do wev it takes.

[@alicehill4999]

Good morning ❤.

[@jakethedog4397]

Good morning ❤

[@movingmad.]

@@alicehill4999 good morning

[@adrianagomez412]

That is a lot of babies in that house. I don’t know how anyone does it. Lauren needs to have the conversation before she makes the declarations of how it’s going to be and do some soul searching about how she feels about her self worth. It’s almost like she’s having regrets about being married and having babies. That can’t be undone. They can’t both work full time and take care of the kids at the same time. These kids aren’t teenagers who can take care of each other. And I don’t know if Lauren’s mom is going to put her life aside to care for their children. She wanted the children too. It’s not like he said if you don’t give me babies right away, I’m leaving. Those children need to be someone’s priority!

[@pamelacurl8342]

I feel you are wrong about ALEXI. How can you cuddle a rattlesnake -or Jasmine?

[@claudiaa5960]

I understand Kobe, to say bye to your family and return to the states, a place that is not your home and it’s not very kind… but that’s the sacrifices people have to do when they have kids, USA is maybe better for them despite all

[@pokeyninjafun]

Only true victim of 90 day nowadays is THE KIDS of the npcs on the show

[@callievires2382]

I feel like emily and her fmily ganged up on Kobe, she was really snooty and laughing at kobe in the car, the way she brought it up to her parents. If emily had just said lets talk about it and come up with a plan, not My answer is no. I feel like kobe shut down and didnt want to explain anything to them because they wil put him down. I wouldnt want to discuss plans with my spouses parents anyway. Thats a couple issue, not an issue to bring in her parents who are spoiled emilys yes men.

[@stellag4301]

And I like Thiase and John..love how she laughs at herself! Her father however is an ass. He needs to get over his resentment of Patrick…accept their marriage and family and move on. 🙄

[@michelleallred8521]

She made him pay for all these surprises & she STILL feels ugly?!?!🙄🙄🙄

[@koreancooper7762]

Love the scene with Manuel and Ashley, he completely broke down which seems to bring temporary harmony between both of them. Thais father seems to be immature, and vindictive. Thais needs to set the record straight with her father. Rob’s love is not being reciprocated. His efforts is in vein. Kobe is wrong to be wanting Emily to make a life changing decision on the spur of the moment. This decision needs to be well thought out.