Should violent ex-cons be allowed to become MPs? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show

[@batbrewer3756]

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[@DennisMoore664]

Lester Holt, the talking head interviewing Biden, is a clown.

[@ashleymoore9063]

He clarified yesterday he meant cross hairs

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[@user-zc4yd9ss7h]

43% of MPs had criminal records in 2012?? Hard to believe. As for the Reform MP, he should have at least been open about his record, given the unpleasant nature of it.

[@jackhewitt600]

He was he told Reform he had a record.

[@citizen530]

Criminality and facism go hand in hand.

[@jamesbrighton1778]

for me any conviction should be divulged to the voting public as they speak to the character of the person standing for an important office and representing those voters

[@rossh1437]

Well if Boris Johnson can become Prime Minister, anything is possible in British politics.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

Told my grandchildren that..see if he can become pm then anything is possible

[@pwest2377]

Thanks very much for the topic timestamps!

[@user-vl1tw4by3r]

Do prospective MPs not have full disclosures done?

[@DennisMoore664]

And the UK press were asleep at the switch for not catching and calling out the conviction. What...a...disgrace.

[@zivkovicable]

Yes as long as they inform the electorate before they stand, which didn't happen in this case..

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

You sure i recall reading you cannot be a mp if you have criminal convictions unlike USA yiu can be president with criminal convictions even if serving a sentence which woukdnt happen because presidents require secret service bodyguard and that would apply if serving a sentence

[@zivkovicable]

@@user-dz8kk6gr5s In the UK a criminal conviction is no bar. MP's will only be automatically expelled from Parliament if they receive a sentence of over a year, although an automatic recall would be triggered for a sentence lower than that. Fiona Onasanya was convicted of perverting the course of justice and was sentence to three months, but was still allowed to vote while wearing a tag, until her final appeal failed. She was subsequently expelled following a recall vote. If she had won that vote there would be nothing stopping her taking her seat and standing again.

[@thatthingisaid5766]

It's quite telling that the couple of phone-ins I've seen from LBC about this have women overwhelmingly condemning the idea of a perpetrator of this kind of crime as an MP, whereas men are more likely to to be swayed. I'm on the side of the women here. There is still a massive problem in this country of male violence against women, and I've heard stories from almost every woman I know where they've had similar experiences. Enabling a man with that record to be admitted to the house of commons, regardless of whether or not he has changed, is simply validating that it's not only a common issue but one that isn't being taken as seriously as it should. My heart goes out Charlotte and the many, many other women who have experienced abuse.

[@notyourordinarygran]

As a woman, with a daughter, 3 granddaughter and 1 great-granddaughter, thank you.❤

[@joesutherland225]

Even a simple crimminal background check would have exposed this before his election media was derelict in it duty here its what the media is supposed to do.would have even 40 yrs ago when local reporters had jobs.

[@ashleymoore9063]

He pushed her admitted his mistake and reported himself to the police

[@thatthingisaid5766]

@@ashleymoore9063 And you think that alone led to an assault conviction and jail time? Call me paranoid if you like, but I'm more inclined to believe the mother of the victim than the perpetrator, who happens to be a politician (See also: Professional liar).

[@st.george007]

All voters must be able to run for office and voters must be fully informed as to who they are voting for. This should have be disclosed and the women in the constituency should have voted accordingly, of course men too. I don't like going into a constituency office with my problem when the MP doesn't wear my political colours.

[@ThecovertCustomer]

Absolutely it should have been disclosed and let the public decide. - I say this as a Reform supporter.

[@markedwards9247]

James O'Brien cannot guarantee that he will view this story objectively. Anyone who listens to your show for the last year would totally agree.

[@miraichampion3366]

If you'd never heard of this guy and you were asked to guess which party he was in. Would anyone get this wrong?

[@user-tx5gw5ld8q]

Its concerning that he describes it as an “indiscretion” instead of the appalling act it is to beat a woman. These questions would be asked: Did he disclose it to the electorates ? Better if he did. How does he talk about it, id he disgusted st his own behaviour? “Indescretion” doesnt cut it.

[@BeepBoos]

Thank you, James and LBC 🙏🏼🙃 🇺🇸

[@CaptainCactus_S30]

If he has been to prison and served his sentence, if we say he is no longer allowed to do particular things then when do they earn the right to partake in these things? Is there a statue of limitations or are we writing them off? Also, James keeps ascertaining he attacked an ex but has anyone read the charges and the court papers? Was it an actual attack or was it a mutually violent on both ends? considering that according to most data available in these situations is that both parties in relationships are equally as violent. The only difference is that when things go to far it is usually far more fatal for women. Of Course, victims of DV will have strong opinions but there has to be an argument beyond the emotional trauma. But the overall feeling is that most people do not believe in true or absolute forgiveness and redemption. Some of the best people I have met in my life at some point were bad people who did bad things but that didn't define them and went on to do amazing things.

[@lionguardant5468]

Everyone should be allowed to be an MP. Every voter gets the government it deserves.

[@ovidiumiinea5462]

Ok, not all Reform people are horrible yet more and more pop-up in that party

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

Lets be honest ex ukip NF BM dont vote labour they vote reform

[@jananders1351]

Has he had a clean sheet for the last 20 years? If so move on. If not, what further complaints are there? And, perhaps his selection and fitness for office become more questionable.

[@KiwisDownUnder]

Shouldn't it be up to the electorate. As long as its fully declared and visible? I mean in the USA you can become president, and this may very well happen end of the year ... nuts!

[@DennisMoore664]

And look how well that's worked out. Nuts indeed.

[@TheAbhorrentTruth]

Simply put. NO

[@AKcoxy]

If it was recent last 10 years then yes... but 20 years? Everyone makes mistakes, we don't know the details, and as james said it was disputed what happened? Theres a number of reasons i can think of why someone would assult another person wright of wrongly so.

[@joil6649]

I really liked Ben from Eastleigh. As someone who also lives in Eastleigh, I hope to meet him one day.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

O'Brien had to put the word "violent", in because he knows there's been plenty of former MPs have been ex-cons.

[@garriejackson9551]

Well it is violence and worse against a woman, why are you having a go at O,Brian for pointing that out? I don't understand your point

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

I recall having to look this up sometime ago and i do belive if you have a criminal record j you cannot become a mp

[@johnboren8928]

I suggest the way you get away from letting your political affiliation control your reaction is that the initial news headline just said MP. Whatever reaction you had before hearing what party he is from is genuine. If that changed after hearing his party, then your revised reaction is political.

[@tilley6351]

NO

[@GallumArtemi]

I think that's something that should really require a court case of some kind to determine. That's the sort of question in which the answer needs to be one which comes from a perspective of both justice and wisdom.

[@StrikingAlexa]

They aren't if they've been sentenced to longer than a year in the UK

[@kevcheeky-pohm5779]

I'm watching this in Australia, a few days late to respond but I thought a member of parliament was not allowed to have a criminal conviction. Had the law changed recently?

[@ajpend]

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[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

If the sentence served was a parole sentence over 5 years that never becomes spent stays on file for life

[@mikebg1984]

Reform is a company and not a party. Judge away.

[@missa2188]

Southgate is more of a mix between Tim Henman and Greg Rusedki as Henman never got to a final, but Greg did in tennis. We definitely need an Andy Murray, but without so many finals defeats before they win a major title

[@TheSpaceKiwi]

I dislike the constant finger-wagging that we "must treat all parties the same" when some choose to boldly flaunt their lack of morals, both in policy and in candidate selection. Speaking truth is not bias, whitewashing poor quality for some false equivalency, however, is.

[@sharonkenyon531]

Absolutely not 😮

[@AlejandroMonteagudo]

They knew he eould have not veen elected if they made it public, so they didn't just politics as usual

[@user-lh9ei6he1h]

Some guys here defending somebody who attacked a female. Makes you wonder why. Sure the guys doing time for assaulting women stick together too.

[@danielgrunwell6026]

James O’Brien is very manipulative by naming Farage constantly and not naming the perpetrator. If you can’t name him don’t name Farage. I didn’t vote for Reform UK but this is beyond the pale by this biased left wing presenter.

[@leaguefan7640]

Your bias is showing!

[@Torquemadia]

So should Layla Moran be prevented from being an MP?

[@DennisMoore664]

Was she convicted of the abuse or serve any time in prison for domestic abuse? As the answer is no, then the answer to your question is no - technically. But it's a fair question. If she had been more than arrested and released, or if she had assaulted her partners on more than one occasion, then I'd say she probably shouldn't be allowed to be a PM.

[@carolelangat-fortune4557]

No

[@marksheehan7059]

And this country has had its Christian status removed already as the central belief of the country by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown

[@donmac7780]

The fact that he was 19 at the time and disclosed this to the party does make a difference, if there was no evidence of such behaviour either before or after the incident that led to his conviction. I find it very troubling, however, that you would have a difference of opinion based on his political affiliation.

[@jamien134]

... (JD Vance) "falling in love with the rewards of becoming a trump fan..." C'mon James, you set up a sofa related pun and missed it! We expect more! 🤣

[@deadcert]

james sounding like he almost cares about climate change

[@michaeladkins6]

The drumpification of america is why I ignore that as much as possible and listen to British podcasts.

[@aleph8888]

Don’t bother. 8 years after the EU referendum and most British “journalists” still don’t understand the difference between a customs union and a free trade agreement.

[@joelhall5124]

Depends. Should prisoners or people on parole be allowed to vote?

[@DennisMoore664]

I say yes, but then being allowed to vote for an elected official and being an elected official are very different things.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

On parole yes

[@Khalkara]

@@user-dz8kk6gr5s Why shouldn't prisoners vote?

[@Alcagaur1]

Perhaps the most inconsequential thing that confuses me is JD Vance's beard, since men who have undergone the procedure he has clearly endured are axiomatic for being unable to grow them.

[@NetanyahooWarCriminal]

Who

[@davidgreene7605]

Aaaannnnd Biden steps down. Hahahaha hat trick

[@JohnnyCastle369]

Farage … didn’t take him long to rush over to America leaving Clapton on sea behind.. Let’s see how much he does for those poor folks looking for new slot machines 🎰 on the pier there

[@deadcert]

who is paying for these callers?

[@johndewhurst6609]

All members of Reform UK should not be allowed in parliament. We are a multicultural society and their racism and xenophobia should be enough to disqualify them.

[@jackhewitt600]

Go and read about what members of the Tory and Labour party have done over the years you will be shocked.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

Definitely

[@eddiecalderone]

@john I find your intolerance despicable.

[@lasso248]

You say you want to be non bias and then continue to tell us your biases. Can’t you lot just be unbiased

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[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Lot of perfectly viable comments here being censored by KZbin. What is their hidden agenda?

[@andrewstevenson118]

Their algorithm is getting tougher. I've tried posting in another language, given that there is an automatic translation function.

[@ashleymoore9063]

Talking talkng but saying nothing .

[@jmhennessey9546]

Michelle Obama quote "high and low" Not Hillary

[@junemackay9128]

Check out 5 months ago Infowars interview Alex Jones/ Ivan Rakeland(check spelling!).

[@NB-nk1qy]

Not listened to this but in answer to the subject question, the answer is yes they should be able to be an MP! If the public are aware and they vote the individual in then the people have spoken!

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

What if the public are conned by aggressive lying media?

[@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz]

@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Even then I'm afraid the answer is still yes. Our system let's us vote it doesn't guarantee us truthful candidates.

[@beandinner1262]

@@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz Then it's a broken system that needs fixing. Truthfulness is a necessity in not having a corrupt government, think the British public is well aware of this now.

[@NB-nk1qy]

@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Still the publics choice at the end of the day! That’s it end of! If they feel or realise they’ve been conned then there is actually a system in place to force a by-election if enough people demand one!

[@NB-nk1qy]

@@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz 👍🏻

[@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp]

Hey Brits, Project 2025 & JD Vance 2016 comments.

[@Stabe1981]

People need to examine the rehabilitation of offenders acts. LBC isnt discussing all the offenders that are coming out early, but for some reason this is their talking point. How low can u go?

[@Stabe1981]

No, its 20 years ago and he has the right to move on with his life.

[@LG26]

Job the guy that’s got the answers for every problem yet he’s still a DJ 😂

[@jeremygough1387]

That is so so weak.

[@mickreaddin4979]

How is he a DJ when he doesn't play music? He's an opinion/phone-in show host.

[@LG26]

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[@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz]

Rephrase the question and see if you have the same answers "should people be allowed to vote for candidates which they wish to vote for?" Would people vote different if they had the information that came to light only after they voted? Maybe. Should plenty of other people have done some leg work in discovering this while foaming at the mouth removing the Conservatives? Probably. Does any of it matter? No.

[@jeremygough1387]

And do Reform's job (which they failed in by the way but you knew that)? Also 'foaming at the mouth'? Don't be silly.

[@CAMRA_GUY]

If you are reading this, please consider other channels for a well rounded view unless you are simply here for a steady diet of bias. I don’t think James willingly misleads people - he seems mostly intellectually honest but also unwilling to visit other challenging ideas unless it’s a thick phone in pleb he can pounce on.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

Like GB news

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

Thats a well rounded view channel init😂

[@danielgrunwell6026]

James O’Brien is not intelligent he is arrogant. An intelligent presenter would listen to both sides of the argument and form a fair unbiased opinion on the matter. That is what a responsible presenter would do.

[@CAMRA_GUY]

@@user-dz8kk6gr5s at least you know where they are coming from. You gotta watch everything mate.

[@Stabe1981]

Typical LBC and their agenda 😂😂😂

[@tom-uk1217]

O’Woke is the messiah of the far left. He really believes his views will influence the American voters 😂

[@Stabe1981]

Just seems a none discussion point.

[@michaeladkins6]

@@tom-uk1217 There are few undecided voters here.

[@Stabe1981]

It shouldn't even be discussed its 20 years ago. He was a 19 year old. If it was a labour mp. Typical LBC and their agenda.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Typical right wing comment.

[@simonsmith4015]

If it was a Labour candidate they wouldn't get through the selection process. Oh yes there wasn't one for Reform Plc

[@Stabe1981]

@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence I thought the left were all for people having second chances, even kier starmer is letting people out who have only completed 40 % of their sentence. So a guy who did something 20 years ago cannot be allowed to move on. Everyone else is allowed a second chance, except a reform mp.

[@Stabe1981]

@@simonsmith4015 he doesn't have to declare it, its 20 years ago. There's prob lots of people who have done things they regretted 20 years ago.

[@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz]

@@simonsmith4015 This is the point really. There does not need to be an explicit "if you were involved in violent crime" clause - this typically is discovered very early on and stops you from running. If that doesn't stop you, people find out, usually fast and then it goes bad anyway People can't reasonably expect to spend the entire election campaign screaming foul about the Conservatives - only then to cry because they completely oversaw something potentially important about the candidate they voted for to remove them.