Should you be jailed for a Facebook post? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show

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@lindakelley2676
@lindakelley2676 2 ай бұрын
A threat is a threat One thing about jail is there is time for introspection into ones life and actions.
@deedee2698
@deedee2698 2 ай бұрын
Comments are typical If this was a Muslim woman or a woman of colour, the comments would be very different.
@vimp6260
@vimp6260 2 ай бұрын
What rational
@ib2742
@ib2742 2 ай бұрын
In what way?
@jeffsmall291
@jeffsmall291 2 ай бұрын
As a black man born in the UK. I agree. I put a put on Facebook about if she'd said the same thing about a church and people lost their mind. One person told me I was inciting racial hatred. Had to remind him Muslim is a religion not a race they come in all colours and races.
@deadcert
@deadcert 2 ай бұрын
can we cover the jailing of the two men for shouting at police and tell me that,s o.k.
@syryder3236
@syryder3236 2 ай бұрын
The fact she mentioned adults only in the mosque is evidence of premeditated thought
@XTRAIT-em4rx
@XTRAIT-em4rx 2 ай бұрын
The Muslim male that phoned in would have been accused of being a terrorist if he wrote something similar to Julie, but regarding a synagogue.
@alanmckay7040
@alanmckay7040 2 ай бұрын
And he wouldn't have gotten 15 months in prison.
@benferris395
@benferris395 2 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅​@@alanmckay7040
@markconway3481
@markconway3481 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@visiow2691
@visiow2691 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@justice100forwin2
@justice100forwin2 2 ай бұрын
Nothing would have been done about it!
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 2 ай бұрын
If the law isn't applied equally to all then we've got an apartheid system haven't we 😁
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
But it is for the most part so we don't. Next.
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 2 ай бұрын
Is it? Certainly doesn't seem that way....
@samtagg8754
@samtagg8754 2 ай бұрын
No not even close
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 ай бұрын
@@LordmonkeyTRM Your glib dismissal will simply not work. When a regime is this frankly dangerous something has to give.
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
@@jeffsimon9594 What regime? Who is your enemy? Most of the media lean to or are on the right. It's become unfashionable to be on the left among young people and we've had a center right government, who have drifted further and further to the right, over the past 14 years. So when you talk about the regime, as somebody who leans a long way to the left, IDK who the fk your are talking about. I have almost no representation in the media, none in government and nothing has "gone my way" for over a decade.
@atomsizeelephant
@atomsizeelephant 2 ай бұрын
ANARCHY IS EVERYTHING EXCEPT WHAT YOU SAY IT IS BRIAN! GO EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT THE REAL DEFINITION OF ANARCHY AND HOW A ANARCHIST SYSTEM WORKS AND THEN RETRACT YOUR WORDS THAT ARE NOTHING BUT A REPETITION OF THE MINDLESS MEDIA!
@alisonyoung7289
@alisonyoung7289 2 ай бұрын
If you really think you should go to jail for a post on facebook for longer than the majority of child molesters get then you have your priorities mixed up.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
That's a seperate issue dear. Not conflatable. Next.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 ай бұрын
@@LordmonkeyTRM Your glib dismissal will simply not work. When a regime is this frankly dangerous *something* has to give.
@jamessimpson3669
@jamessimpson3669 2 ай бұрын
You should be jailed for spreading lies and misinformation and slander if the post incites riots hatred and or assault and death, free speech should be used correctly
@Mark-jr6ld
@Mark-jr6ld 2 ай бұрын
If the post is about bombing churches and you think it's a form of protest then you have your priorities mixed up.
@bg1616
@bg1616 2 ай бұрын
@Mark-jr6ld it's a Facebook post to a voluntary audience (friends). If she asked everyone to jump off a cliff would they go running?
@DemonstrableRealist
@DemonstrableRealist 2 ай бұрын
I feel for anyone who ends up rioting, or encouraging violence, due to the attitudes they have adopted by listening to the likes of Farage, Ten Names, Murray etc. I’m also glad they’re being jailed. Now they should jail Farage, Ten Names, Murray etc. I won’t feel sorry for them.
@rprobp186
@rprobp186 2 ай бұрын
So basically anyone you disagree with
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 2 ай бұрын
I will feel sorry for you as you watch fascism. Rise in your country, which is happening right before your very eyes
@stefanjackson1127
@stefanjackson1127 2 ай бұрын
It's pretty ridiculous when you look at the severity of other serious crimes in comparison. Post something online that may be frowned upon, and you'll have the police at your door ready to arrest you... V.s. someone reporting stalking and harrassing behaviour. Who gets a slap on the wrist until they commit violence against the person they've stalked and harrassed. I believe the police should be there to intervene where physical conflict is likely to happen, and to de-escalate situations. Not to enforce what could be seen as arbitrarily offensive posts. Someone, somewhere will always feel anxious or threatened by something they do not like or understand. The solution is not a gagging order or prison. Also, what she said is wrong for sure. Maybe instead of jailtime just naming and shaming her would have more of an educational impact. Removing online anonymity
@shaunsocha421
@shaunsocha421 2 ай бұрын
@@stefanjackson1127 y'all are lost
@stefanjackson1127
@stefanjackson1127 2 ай бұрын
@shaunsocha421 for sure. Mean words from a random woman equate to a cell and a sentence that should be reserved for r*pists, thieves, and all the rest of the more severe criminals in this country, apparently. Regardless of nationality and status. Our PM is a joke.
@stefanjackson1127
@stefanjackson1127 2 ай бұрын
@shaunsocha421 you're not wrong there. Apparently, we don't have the space in prison, nor the funding for police, but thought crimes are deemed worthy of wasting those 2 resources. Regardless of nationality, race, ethnicity, religion, etc, I'd think prioritising the supposed limit prison space and officers to enforce stronger sentences against r*pists, violent thieves, and repeat offenders etc. The priorities are all wrong.
@bg1616
@bg1616 2 ай бұрын
I agree it's too much for a venting post by someone who the courts don't even know. The post needs to be seen in context of who she is, who is listening, and what damage was done as a result of it. There are repeat offenders out there making people's lives a misery and they get nothing like these jail sentences. This was ordered by Starmer the prosecutor to keep a gleam on his ministerial record.
@bg1616
@bg1616 2 ай бұрын
@@shaunsocha421 give your reasons or just don't bother commenting?
@nicolaclark4234
@nicolaclark4234 2 ай бұрын
How can you justify any of these sentences when they have released people for more serious crimes, a Murderer released after doing just 6 mnths of his Sentence.
@shaunsocha421
@shaunsocha421 2 ай бұрын
Separate issues mate. Murderer should obv get more than 18 yrs, probably cherry picking an extreme outlier. She should still be jailed for incitement tho, and probably for a lot longer too. Neither sentences long enough.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 ай бұрын
*_" a Murderer released after doing just 6 mnths of his Sentence."_* Citation needed. Who was that? {:o:O:}
@Liverpoolboy01
@Liverpoolboy01 2 ай бұрын
Who ?
@emilymccartney1593
@emilymccartney1593 2 ай бұрын
Nicola. This is the problem, you are sharing lies made up by you, or something you’ve read online. This starts the absolute chaos of misinformation and the Right go hysterical, which results in the abuse of innocent people going about their lives!
@Liverpoolboy01
@Liverpoolboy01 2 ай бұрын
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Three hours later 🤔 Nothing😊
@timbailey3002
@timbailey3002 2 ай бұрын
Heavy handed.Why have 2 people who assaulted armed police not been tried and sentenced yet?????
@JanSaevebek
@JanSaevebek 2 ай бұрын
All the people in the comments saying it's too harsh or she shouldn't be charged at all, just think if it had been a Muslim calling for a church to be blown up with everyone inside. You'd soon be calling for them to be locked up and for a lot longer than 15 months I suspect.
@andrewstevenson118
@andrewstevenson118 2 ай бұрын
I think it's too harsh. And, as someone who attends a church, if the situation was as you say, I would feel the same. If a Muslim did it about a Christian church, I would say it's too harsh.
@misunderstood101
@misunderstood101 2 ай бұрын
​​@@andrewstevenson118I have nothing against this lady personally. I feel sorry for her she has been misled and look at where it led her too. We need to be aware that our words can have influence on others and cause irreparable damage specially in such circumstances that we have all witnessed the last few weeks. It's a human responsibility that's on us all.
@andrewstevenson118
@andrewstevenson118 2 ай бұрын
@@misunderstood101 Agreed. Well-written. But I think 15 months is too long.
@bg1616
@bg1616 2 ай бұрын
The sentence is too long for a simple Facebook post. Is there any evidence that it directly led others to attempt any crime? And what if she posted it anonymously on another platform? That's two tier policing as well in a sense
@misunderstood101
@misunderstood101 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewstevenson118 thanks 🙏 for understanding my point. I just hope she comes out of this sentence to be a better person.
@BlackWolf-uk2yb
@BlackWolf-uk2yb 2 ай бұрын
With the Moly Mae story I am going to imagine that its in large part para social because they have lived out every part of their relationship online. I agree that it is SUPER sad that people care SO much about something that is the norm for everybody (a couple breaking up). I don't get it either. I dont understand why people become SO invested in the life of others!
@teccosman
@teccosman 2 ай бұрын
I think people should go to jail for caring about that dingbat couple from love island
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 2 ай бұрын
Should Packham be arrested for advocating burning Barclays customers?
@adamarmstrong9408
@adamarmstrong9408 2 ай бұрын
What happened to labour councillor ricky jones? Lets see if he gets to serve time
@ibexdnb2879
@ibexdnb2879 2 ай бұрын
I have been educating a few of these far lefters on here about censorship. I have had to re word a post or 2 for it to appear but they still won't believe. Echo chambers are mental.
@Zeyr01
@Zeyr01 2 ай бұрын
He still hasn't been charged.
@kevinhunter3473
@kevinhunter3473 2 ай бұрын
Yes he has
@Zeyr01
@Zeyr01 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinhunter3473 I stand corrected. I am legit surprised.
@georgepapsukkal4392
@georgepapsukkal4392 2 ай бұрын
Let see if your dear leader Nigel Farage, will also receive a very long prison sentence for starting the deadly far-right rampaged. I bet his excuse will be that he was only following orders from his leader Andrew Tate.
@ivywild628
@ivywild628 2 ай бұрын
Talk TV and GB News doesn't help.
@martinwilliams9866
@martinwilliams9866 2 ай бұрын
One could also blame the algorithms used in social media, which are designed to reinforce peoples' attitudes & beliefs. We could also blame the Labour party for using such rhetoric as "Smash the gangs," suggesting to the public that "smashing" is a part of the solution to these problems.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara 2 ай бұрын
The smash the gangs bit is a real big leap in logic.
@everheardofprivacy
@everheardofprivacy 2 ай бұрын
Why? Don't people have their own brains any more ?
@jd-tg1ox
@jd-tg1ox 2 ай бұрын
The algo is designed to keep us angry
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
Actually the algorithms are designed to show you content related to content you haven't switched off from. If you go on youtube shorts and you keep watching all of shorts about dogs, you will increasingly be shown shorts about dogs. If you keep watching all of videos/shorts/tiktoks/what ever because the algorithms are all the same, that come from the same political microcosm, increasingly the algorithms will show you videos from those creators/related creators because you have been shown to engage with it. It's not trying to show you anything in particular other than what it has detected you engage with the most.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyMaverik But are unknown people watching us ? Technically they can do it. If I read the Daily Mail, nobody knows. The owners look at the circulation figures of course. But the social media has owners too. We’d be foolish to ignore that.
@garyballared2077
@garyballared2077 2 ай бұрын
WHEN PREVIOUS LAW ABIDING PEOPLE START TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE LAW THEN I REKON ANARCHY IS CLOSER THAN YOU THINK
@nathankhalid9575
@nathankhalid9575 2 ай бұрын
Nuclear war this year or next ??
@kevinhunter3473
@kevinhunter3473 2 ай бұрын
Why the shouting?
@shaunsocha421
@shaunsocha421 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinhunter3473 it's all these cluster A types know
@danielsmith7247
@danielsmith7247 2 ай бұрын
You talking about the riots or keyboard warriors? The rioters were mainly made up of people who have always been criminals. Keyboard warriors have been saying stuff for years and now they are getting into trouble for it.
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
Everybody is law abiding until they are found to have broken the law. Lucy Letby didn't have a criminal record prior to being found out as a serial murderer of babies. I've broken plenty of laws yet all you'd possibly find on my criminal record is that I was once arrested because I rode a train with out a ticket in Portugal back in 2015 (where I lived), which I doubt would be there anyway since they don't keep those kinds of records for minors that long (I was 15 at the time).
@donxz2555
@donxz2555 2 ай бұрын
The line between free speech (which is under attack by Tory’s and Labour alike) and censorship is a thin line where if you descend from reasonable criticism to unreasonable hate or incitement to commit violence. If someone responds to your ‘call to arms’ then if that person commits an act of violence due to that incitement must be equally guilty.
@dwaynewrighton8547
@dwaynewrighton8547 2 ай бұрын
We're not American. We don't have free speech, or a right to it. We do have the right to freedom of expression. It's appalling you don't know your rights, but know the rights of people in a different country, and think they apply to you
@donxz2555
@donxz2555 2 ай бұрын
@@dwaynewrighton8547 You seem to be somewhat enraged- careful you don’t burst a blood vessel. Although I agree what may be perceived as a ‘right’ is with many things not, especially in this day and age. State pensions were perceived as a right as we paid into it all our working lives But I was shocked to find out it’s a benefit not a right !
@JanetBrown-k1f
@JanetBrown-k1f 2 ай бұрын
Well to quote Edward Bulwer-Lytton " The pen is mightier than the sword"
@CaptainCactus_S30
@CaptainCactus_S30 2 ай бұрын
why is everyone assuming Julie is some miguided old lady who just fell into a trap? For all we know she is a thought leader in her groups and is the one pushing the radicalisation of others. Us Brits lean far too much into the compassion and make far too many excuses in absence of actual facts.
@emilymccartney1593
@emilymccartney1593 2 ай бұрын
Her Husband said she leads “a quiet and sheltered life” She looks hard as nails to me.
@syryder3236
@syryder3236 2 ай бұрын
You prefer "Faridge" riot's rather than Farage which derives from a scottish Sir name MacFergus which means son of Feargus in Gaelic personal name "fear" meaning man and "gus" meaning vigor or force.....
@jamiegordon-smith3325
@jamiegordon-smith3325 2 ай бұрын
Imagine listening to this tool on a daily basis 😂
@DDuMas
@DDuMas 2 ай бұрын
The only thing I'd say in her favour is, I think the government should have gave out a warning that social media posts will be taken VERY seriously, first. That said, I am 100% in support of this. Far too many people get their "facts" or "news" from social media, and they say something before any actual evidence comes in and people end up getting hurt. And for what I said above, defamation should be easier to prove online too. Like everyone jumping the gun and calling that female Olympian boxer a male and the endless disgusting online nonsense that followed. But just as with this criminal who took the lives of the three girls, NO ONE has bothered to wait for any evidence and it's unfair. Outside of social media, what would actually help, would be if the media would be kind enough to stop stirring up Islamaphobia. Watch the Owen Jones video called "Media whipped up facist riot, now they want to pass on the blame" and he shows evidence.
@brentbundy9780
@brentbundy9780 2 ай бұрын
Dear Mr. James O'Brien " LBC " First, l want to thank you for making me think so hard over the past years. This is the very first time l have stepped in and commented on anything, for the most part, did not think anyone would or really should take my view. I want to mention the bicycle ride for breast cancer internationally that l have been on for a specific reason. On the sign on the back, l made the statement that l was completely Covid vaccinated. I was told by an anti-vaccinator, you should remove that statement. It would turn some people off and it is unnecessary to the goal you are making. I did not take her advice and the sign stayed as written. I have decided that l would die on that bridge and remain a pro vaccinator. I am from the States ( Portland Oregon ) and the former President said - it's ok that the crowd is saying " Hang Mike Pence " is ok because he deserves it, according to his own chief of staff. I believe in free speech, that is not free speech, that is hate speech. Sincerely, Brent Bundy Ridegump on " FB " l do not have a problem with the Judge throwing the book at her.
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
Blinken rn: No, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO,NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!! TOMMY!!!!!!!!! 😂.
@christinestromberg4057
@christinestromberg4057 2 ай бұрын
On the other story, I am 80 yrs old have little or no time for "celebrities" I have never heard of. Is this an example of distraction? Pushing this kind of thing to distract from things we need to be spending time thinking about. Bread a circuses, in other word. I'll be honest, I really don't care at all about these people or their break up. I have enough problems of my own to deal with. I have never seen Love Island and never wish to, I'm probably just too old. However, I do understand that in the absence of "real" jobs, or the feeling that their lives have meaning nowadays, many young people have turned to the internet to find the attention they crave. And who can blame them?
@owenokane9643
@owenokane9643 2 ай бұрын
If I walk into a cinema and shout fire and people are hurt or killed in the stampede to get out. Should I go to jail? The only difference is this woman shouted fire through the social media door.
@oujdafilajtoba5006
@oujdafilajtoba5006 2 ай бұрын
She shouldn't be jailed she should be locked up and made to complete a .study about iaslamic religion. Because her mistake is ignorant and she didn't have a clue about the religion also drinking too much alcohol , eliteracy poverty and laziness made her look like an idiot.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 2 ай бұрын
@oujadafilajtoba. This is one of the joys of social media..
@beverlybradley5485
@beverlybradley5485 2 ай бұрын
So literally you’re saying force a religion down someone’s throat and you wonder why people are against this form of brainwashing!
@kryptobear2444
@kryptobear2444 2 ай бұрын
KZbin : Double Down News "The one video Tommy Robinson REALLY doesn't want you to see" It's a eye opener.
@marmedli9124
@marmedli9124 2 ай бұрын
And the one on Starmer, showing they are paid by the same lot.
@philfyphil
@philfyphil 2 ай бұрын
James doesn’t have a cup of tea, he has a quagmire of tea! 😱
@queenirmamay
@queenirmamay 2 ай бұрын
I need only allowed one coffee a day😂😂😂
@Junglelova
@Junglelova 2 ай бұрын
When he took a swig from that i was in awe 😂😂
@JanSaevebek
@JanSaevebek 2 ай бұрын
Of course it's right that she's been jailed. 15 months is probably about right as she pleaded guilty.
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 2 ай бұрын
And if it were your mother
@JanSaevebek
@JanSaevebek 2 ай бұрын
@@greamespens1460 What's that got to do with anything?
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 2 ай бұрын
@@JanSaevebek Would you be as supportive of the punishment. I had a family member that had Alzheimer's should they go to prison?
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 2 ай бұрын
@@greamespens1460Then she would deserve it, and I would look back at what she taught me over the years and ask why is she so hateful to people she doesn’t know
@andrewstevenson118
@andrewstevenson118 2 ай бұрын
Seems a little harsh to me, but then the Stop Oil people got five years, so...
@donn-nd3bs
@donn-nd3bs 2 ай бұрын
Should you be jailed if you attack arm cops. Didn't they say jails are full up afew weeks ago😊
@sherbertufo5247
@sherbertufo5247 2 ай бұрын
Are these questions? The Manchester Airport scientist and Engineer are still walking about scott-free.
@Trinitydestoyer
@Trinitydestoyer 2 ай бұрын
Ur people been fighting the police for the last 50 years😂😂it’s called hooliganism! They should all be in jail😂😂😂
@real_wakawaka
@real_wakawaka 2 ай бұрын
​@sherbertufo5247 and yet you still fail to understand why they lashed out at the police....they attacked their mother and her sons called the police who wanted to arrest the victims. Race had everything to do with the cops and they had every right to attack the cops. It was unfair. The cops made the victims as culprits.
@allancurrie9472
@allancurrie9472 Ай бұрын
Imprisoned ? Should you be , you will be under Westminster forces
@spezzington
@spezzington 7 күн бұрын
Time for a new title photo to reflect the... erm... heaviness 🤣
@wendystewart8526
@wendystewart8526 2 ай бұрын
Glad she was arrested what a sick thing to say and glad she was sent to prison
@sensibledriver933
@sensibledriver933 2 ай бұрын
Whether you plead guilty or not does not affect how long it takes to charge someone. The people who beat up the Police at the airport or the Labour guy calling for people's throats to be cut have they been charged yet? Many who marched/rioted and was not an ethic minority has ben charged and sentenced. Has anyone been charged and sentenced in the first riot in the Leeds area?
@xXBURITOOXx
@xXBURITOOXx 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making me smile this morning with question or answer amongst all the dark human behaviour. Mvh, Lars.
@mickreaddin4979
@mickreaddin4979 2 ай бұрын
I knew of this break up a few days ago. My son-in-law recently helped them both move to a new property, only to be called back a few days later to help one of them move out. Never nice to see relationships break down.
@dontoni8041
@dontoni8041 2 ай бұрын
She looks like Ms Trenchball from Matilda😂😂😂
@shaunteasdale6613
@shaunteasdale6613 2 ай бұрын
I once used the analogy to describe the internet the same as the invention of motor cars.. imagine the 1st cars invented were 200mph F1 cars?? well the roads would have been absolute carnage as it’s too soon too quick… The development of the internet / social media has hit us all too soon too quick. Facebook groups are just like pubs in essence.. So imagine being in a pub and over hearing a conversation between half a dozen 6ft 5 20 stone men and then being able to go over to them and tell them they’re idiots etc etc and then getting personal in order to upset them further, and doing this all without the fear of any physical consequences….. Well this is exactly what social media brings out in people. I sincerely don’t think the average person is able to think rationally when debating online with strangers.
@e4tm333
@e4tm333 2 ай бұрын
What about the labour councillor that called for cutting people’s throats?
@MrC.1990
@MrC.1990 2 ай бұрын
He’s been released ffs
@timellis7724
@timellis7724 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrC.1990... No he's not. He's on remand and has yet to make his plea. If he is at home it's because he is on bail.
@lukebarton5075
@lukebarton5075 2 ай бұрын
@et What about him?
@dvvecchio7193
@dvvecchio7193 2 ай бұрын
O’Brien never talked about that on his show did he?can’t let that get in the way of his own agenda!
@beverlybradley5485
@beverlybradley5485 2 ай бұрын
@@timellis7724She wrote it he literally said it out loud, and gets bail but she gets jailed straight away, there’s definitely a two tier system, and it’s why there’s going to be more public backlash.
@LeeKnight22
@LeeKnight22 2 ай бұрын
Omg sticks n stones .....wow how silly.
@LeeKnight22
@LeeKnight22 2 ай бұрын
Wokism is the death of the west..
@mickreaddin4979
@mickreaddin4979 2 ай бұрын
​@@LeeKnight22 OK Mr Trump.
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr 2 ай бұрын
This woman, has been made example of, because her response is hate speach . Think before you put anything hateful out there.
@alanmckay7040
@alanmckay7040 2 ай бұрын
I'll hate whoever I like thank you very much, I hate Kier Starmer and his stasi brigade, you going to have me locked up too?
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 2 ай бұрын
Whole lot more are gonna hate our oppressors.
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr 2 ай бұрын
@@alanmckay7040 No not at all . The difference is you sre not saying harm Starmer . Also I don't like Starmer, and I have put it out on KZbin on many occasions, but I never said he should be harmed .
@Khalkara
@Khalkara 2 ай бұрын
@@alanmckay7040 Tbh probably need mental help, not jail.
@donn-nd3bs
@donn-nd3bs 2 ай бұрын
There people did far worse and did no jail time
@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802
@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 2 ай бұрын
People should be jailed for still using Facebook in 2024.
@simonchambers4683
@simonchambers4683 2 ай бұрын
She will learn about herself in the Bighouse.
@quinnstar6846
@quinnstar6846 2 ай бұрын
Depends what you say and how extreme it is and it should be the same punishment for all sides if they do similar stuff not two tier policing.
@tejida815
@tejida815 2 ай бұрын
🎶Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high. Take a look, it's in a book, a Reading Rainbow! I can go anywhere. Friends to know, and ways to grow. A Reading Rainbow! I can be anything. Take a look, it's in a book. A Reading Rainbow. A Reading Rainbow. A Reading Rainbow!🎵
@PirateRemy
@PirateRemy 2 ай бұрын
So why is this woman jailed but not the likes of Farage,
@Dylanesque
@Dylanesque 2 ай бұрын
Privilege. And being privileged.
@ConorBailey
@ConorBailey 2 ай бұрын
What did farage say exactly which warrants being arrested? Did he say he was going to blow up a mosque?
@spezzington
@spezzington 2 ай бұрын
2 hours of JOB? 😂😂😂😂
@Bushwacker-mb6hw
@Bushwacker-mb6hw 7 күн бұрын
Unhinged
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
The Kennedys rn: No, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO,NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!! TOMMY!!!!!!!!! 😂.
@jedcollings3624
@jedcollings3624 2 ай бұрын
Er no Jimbob, no you shouldn't, especially not with 8000 missing terrorists on our streets 🤷
@emilymccartney1593
@emilymccartney1593 2 ай бұрын
Jed. Where did you get confirmation that the 8000 have committed acts of terrorism? Genuine sources, not Right Wing FB groups.
@kevinhunter3473
@kevinhunter3473 2 ай бұрын
Are you one of the 20,000 facists?
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
The terrorists that were gleefully taking part in the Farage/Robinson(proudly sponsored by The Daily Mail) riots? Those ones?
@emilymccartney1593
@emilymccartney1593 2 ай бұрын
@@jedcollings3624 What terrorist crimes have they committed?
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 2 ай бұрын
​@kevinhunter3473 you need to look at the definition of that word. There's a religion going around that ticks every box....
@matt2585
@matt2585 2 ай бұрын
This sentence is a start towards making people think twice about what they post online, however, as well as going after the addict id like to see an approach of going after the dealer. The dealers of course being the daily mail, farage, Braverman , Robinson, tate etc
@peterwilson5528
@peterwilson5528 2 ай бұрын
Farage is still free? Why?
@catcoffee7958
@catcoffee7958 2 ай бұрын
Cause people are still defending him
@peterwilson5528
@peterwilson5528 2 ай бұрын
@@catcoffee7958 Accomplices.
@ConorBailey
@ConorBailey 2 ай бұрын
When did he issue a death threat?
@peterwilson5528
@peterwilson5528 2 ай бұрын
@@ConorBailey When did he not?
@ConorBailey
@ConorBailey 2 ай бұрын
@@peterwilson5528 well if you could point me towards a specific example I’d greatly appreciate it. Thanks
@ageoflove1980
@ageoflove1980 2 ай бұрын
Well, a discussion about the balance between freedom of speech and inciting hatred is always an interesting topic, as it is a bit of a paradox. However in this case it seems pretty clear... Literally suggesting something horrible as that should be illegal and should be policed by the state.
@lukemorgan6166
@lukemorgan6166 2 ай бұрын
your comment offends me Turn yourself in
@AthelstanEngland
@AthelstanEngland 2 ай бұрын
Ever heard of hyperbole?
@sebraven
@sebraven 2 ай бұрын
​@@lukemorgan6166this woman with her incitement to violence and deaths basically had the option to keep these views to herself . No she went onto social media where millions of people can see this statement to make her comment , no sympathy here totally deserved arrest and being charged
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
@@lukemorgan6166 It's not about offense it's about intent. You can say "your comments offends me" and that's fine but you can't say "your comment offends me and I intend to punish it with physical violence". It's really simple, think about what you can do and say as a member of the public "IRL". If she was stood on a street and shouted what she posted, people would be horrified and the police may well be called.
@kevinmorgan2818
@kevinmorgan2818 2 ай бұрын
I think fountain pens used to contain lead, which makes them more fade resistant and a bit tamper proof.
@juliegillings6023
@juliegillings6023 2 ай бұрын
What would have happened if people were murdered
@heidilopez8875
@heidilopez8875 2 ай бұрын
The Molly and Tommy news was actually refreshing and a nice distraction from everything.
@ZM00716
@ZM00716 2 ай бұрын
If you incite violence
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 2 ай бұрын
Farage Riots...oh you're skirting hate speech right there JoB 😁
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 2 ай бұрын
Nah, there’s video and audio, it fits and anybody who gets their BS from Andrew Tate and claims it deserves to have the riots named after him, I’m just asking questions- 😂
@Lynsky24
@Lynsky24 2 ай бұрын
Simply. No.
@Gregoryismnz
@Gregoryismnz 2 ай бұрын
yes Next question
@quinnstar6846
@quinnstar6846 2 ай бұрын
You use the term radicalised not all are radicalised, some are just fed up , if they are radicalised you got to think who brought radicalisation to this country in the first place which then gets an equal reaction.
@popadomjim178
@popadomjim178 2 ай бұрын
*James 0' brain
@tirokopita
@tirokopita 2 ай бұрын
Keyboard Worrier.
@randomcommenter7170
@randomcommenter7170 2 ай бұрын
This is nothing they should see comments on average Instagram posts, now those people should be locked up. Worse than twitter lol
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
Don't beat black people, while you're trying to win over Black Nations then, rookie move guys. 🇸🇧😌🇨🇳
@RaoulDuke333
@RaoulDuke333 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Facebook post vs breaking a police woman nose ????
@marknugent9851
@marknugent9851 2 ай бұрын
...like reality TV, it's not worth the blow back.
@Carllizard
@Carllizard 2 ай бұрын
The noble narcissist is on again with his condescending tone.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 2 ай бұрын
Whine more while saying nothing of value
@everheardofprivacy
@everheardofprivacy 2 ай бұрын
He's not a narcissist.
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 2 ай бұрын
@@Norman-j7mYou still haven’t decided to be a better person for that dog huh
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 ай бұрын
@@everheardofprivacy He’s a grubby propagandist. He keeps trying to promote this phrase “farage riots”, as though it’s a real thing.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 ай бұрын
@@williamelewis464 James is the terrible person here
@tessthomas8606
@tessthomas8606 2 ай бұрын
Wow yes harsh. But she is responsible for her own actions. But it should be a warning to the trolls and bullies hiding behind posting vile messages……you can’t hide. And also proof the government have the power to take action.
@Zeyr01
@Zeyr01 2 ай бұрын
Unless you're American, then you're free to troll the UK government and police with impunity. Which is exactly what they've been doing. 😂
@Exterminator-v19
@Exterminator-v19 2 ай бұрын
This woman is breaking my phone with those looks..,
@jeanselvanadan7743
@jeanselvanadan7743 2 ай бұрын
Couldnt care less what happen in this country as its gone down the toilet nothing will work Nhs gone Gp s gone shops gone cant travel in safety on buses and trains so what now on proper care for the elderly home care is awful everyone complaining abut their care very sad
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
I think we agree about the problems but I also have a feeling we wouldn't agree upon the causes.
@bethramorgan3620
@bethramorgan3620 2 ай бұрын
I think its a perfectly reasonable sentence considering she won't spend anything like that time inside - it was an incitement to perform an illegal act resulting in the death of people - I feel she got off lightly. But then I think Farage and cronies should also be brought to court for incitement as well.
@Darktower_11
@Darktower_11 2 ай бұрын
You really are on another planet you lot.
@sheilasimmonds2856
@sheilasimmonds2856 2 ай бұрын
Wake up.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 2 ай бұрын
Uh oh the garage bots and thugs are in the comments in force it seems
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 2 ай бұрын
@@bethramorgan3620 well you would wouldn't you 🙄
@Thetruthwillsetyoufreee
@Thetruthwillsetyoufreee 2 ай бұрын
So what of all the muslim hate speeches across great Britain what about all the mdl walking the streets with swords. And police do nothing. What about the 1000s of girls who have been groomed and ignored.
@juniorlion27
@juniorlion27 2 ай бұрын
Yes send her to jail but 15 months is a bit harsh. But then again other people will think twice before saying foolish things !! She's made her bed and should sleep on it!! 👍
@catcoffee7958
@catcoffee7958 2 ай бұрын
Not harsh considering she is a mature woman ,,,
@sofalock3911
@sofalock3911 2 ай бұрын
The person who created it should
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 2 ай бұрын
IP address came back to her acct 🤷
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 2 ай бұрын
@@sofalock3911 what the Rwandan, I think he will be, not even JoB can get him off 😁
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr
@PaulEleftheriou-we7vr 2 ай бұрын
And the slaughter goes on and on!
@hamazonuk
@hamazonuk 2 ай бұрын
For the question.yes.
@KindnessInc
@KindnessInc 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@judithdavidson2356
@judithdavidson2356 2 ай бұрын
I think the judge was correct as it’s clearly incitement
@Ccfctracky
@Ccfctracky 2 ай бұрын
What has happened to free speech have I woke on a different plant. The Mandela effect 😮
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
Don't beat black people, while you're trying to win over Black Nations then, rookie move guys. 🇸🇧😌🇨🇳
@Liverpoolboy01
@Liverpoolboy01 2 ай бұрын
Free speech with responsibility!!!
@johnsevern739
@johnsevern739 2 ай бұрын
I don't know - have you 'woke on a different plant' -nettle maybe😂 Either way you've never been able to abuse it. free speech has always been with responsibility for what you write
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
Melanesia has seen enough. You made up everyone's mind up down here Tommy. 🇸🇧🖤🇨🇳.
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
He's Blinkens, Caroline Kennedy's and US Armys problem now. He might end up on the frontlines after all. Poetic. Melanesia is not impressed. 🇸🇧🖤🇨🇳
@whatif4942
@whatif4942 2 ай бұрын
Everyone should have the right to express their thoughts however distasteful in whatever media they like. You can chose to not listen or read, or to determine that the writer is a nutcase or not, but he must be able to express himself (herself/ itself etc) otherwise we get into the realms of govt deciding what we can say and that will depend on what colour tie they wear.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
That doesn't include public incitement of violence/terrorism like in this case but yes you are correct.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 2 ай бұрын
@@LordmonkeyTRM We must exercise our rights responsibly and with careful thought. At times the social media seems more like a public vomitorium. Every meeting and debate needs some rules surely. It happens everywhere, even in Parish Councils. This is pure Bedlam. It brings despair more than anything. We were once renowned for our courtesy and restraint - and we have been through some terrible times. It didn’t stop us making huge strides.
@fred8868
@fred8868 Ай бұрын
Why
@MartianTom
@MartianTom 2 ай бұрын
Yes. For a long time. And be made to spend every moment of your incarceration examining the full import of what you were suggesting.
@Darktower_11
@Darktower_11 2 ай бұрын
@@MartianTom And what about the man who murdered the teenager with a machete, who has been released after six months? Has he examined the "full import" of what he did?
@cct7558
@cct7558 2 ай бұрын
No. End of.
@joytekb
@joytekb 2 ай бұрын
It is very fragile. There is a movie Day of a Locust about it
@amorlia4488
@amorlia4488 2 ай бұрын
I wonder what experiments they have in store for this lot. Poor punks, don't have a chance. 😌🇸🇧🖤🇨🇳.
@angelalord6269
@angelalord6269 2 ай бұрын
The moral is think it but don't put it in writing. You are being watched. In all honesty I think someone in her group for whatever reason reported her comment. On facebook it is easily done by a slip of the finger and hitting the wrong button we have all done it and accidentally reported a post instead of deleting it.. We dont know in what context it was said. What one person sees as humorous another finds offensive. Thats what happens in a cosmopolitan society.
@catcoffee7958
@catcoffee7958 2 ай бұрын
I dont think encouraging the killing of THE OTHERS is funny ,,bombing building is not right ,,what could be the context for this mature woman ,,,i wonder
@Bushwacker-mb6hw
@Bushwacker-mb6hw 7 күн бұрын
@@catcoffee7958Ricky jones
@equaliser2265
@equaliser2265 2 ай бұрын
She deleted it, they went in and recovered it.
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 2 ай бұрын
No that was an attempt to cover up a criminal act
@alanmckay7040
@alanmckay7040 2 ай бұрын
@@williamelewis464 A criminal act of making a facebook post.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
​@@alanmckay7040yes duh.. It's not rocket science
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way to look into her echo chamber. What hate speech is she listening to everyday?
@ephre
@ephre 2 ай бұрын
You should try bit harder, they're everywhere.
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 ай бұрын
What hate speech are you listening to? Oh, James O Brien.
@Liverpoolboy01
@Liverpoolboy01 2 ай бұрын
When?
@emilymccartney1593
@emilymccartney1593 2 ай бұрын
She’s one of the “Nans for Tommy Robinson” followers.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 ай бұрын
@@emilymccartney1593 Shocking thought-crime that
@joescott54
@joescott54 2 ай бұрын
No wonder the rest of the planet are laughing at the UK...
@Fran-sf6vh
@Fran-sf6vh 2 ай бұрын
I honestly think we're still dealing with the fallout from Thatcherism.
@philfyphil
@philfyphil 2 ай бұрын
I think we are still dealing with the fall-out from Trussism 🤓
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 2 ай бұрын
That is absolutely ridiculous, that she was jailed for that amount of time. For what was almost unquestionably, a threat that would have had no action in real life
@Bushwacker-mb6hw
@Bushwacker-mb6hw 2 ай бұрын
Church was attacked only a few weeks ago?
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 2 ай бұрын
@Bushwacker-mb6hw. I never heard about that. Perhaps it’s just as well.
@nbvvc-pi6pi
@nbvvc-pi6pi 2 ай бұрын
This man is a complete danger to society
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 2 ай бұрын
Bold statement. Try and back it up.
@nbvvc-pi6pi
@nbvvc-pi6pi 2 ай бұрын
@@LordmonkeyTRM is there any point????
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik 2 ай бұрын
@@nbvvc-pi6pi Yes. Give an example of when he has said something that presents a danger to society. You said it, so prove it.
@nbvvc-pi6pi
@nbvvc-pi6pi 2 ай бұрын
​@@JohnnyMaverikhe is a smart and articulate man, but he is so invested into his ideologies, that anything that goes against it, must be absolutely rubbished, even if there is something to listen to from the other side, it's like as if must of his points are driven from a ego
@zeem8311
@zeem8311 2 ай бұрын
Where's her teeth??
@Fran-sf6vh
@Fran-sf6vh 2 ай бұрын
If she shouted it from the pavement, it would clearly be incitement. Typing doesn't change anything, it's still abhorrent.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 2 ай бұрын
@Fran-sf6vh. ‘The pen is mightier than the sword.” That has always been said - and there is much truth in it. Writings have toppled governments. They have swayed millions. We must be very careful about what we say and how we say it.
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