Should we compare these servers? - Everquest Project Quarm

[@grimmftw8044]

I have a level 50 human ranger on quarm and have been playing it since day 1. There have been a lot of custom things added to the server that make it stand out from other emulated stuff, and there are plenty of pros and cons to all of it. Too many for a youtube comment, but the good outweighs the bad by a country mile. If you are following the discord and all the latest updates then you can have a very enjoyable experience in game. I raid 4 nights a week thanks to instanced raiding, something I would have never been able to do with open zone raid targets that only batphone/poopsock people could wait around for. With the Zeal update, there were tons of client side changes like mouse smoothing, making 3rd person view fun, spell gem save sets, right click spell gem menus, and countless other additions that make the game more manageable. The quality of life improvements are incredible. Quarm is not trying to capture the classic, untouched experience. It's a very custom server that will help you chase that nostalgia, while also being a functional adult, and I'm here for it.

[@dessius]

I appreciate your input! Sounds like a pretty good time! If I ever feel the itch to raid, I will definitely play on Quarm for that, I just can't see myself doing the poopsock/batphone stuff in P99. I think customizing and adding some QoL elements is a really good idea for Quarm that really contrasts it from the "pure classic"esque style of P99. I am definitely not done talking about this server.

[@BroadbandLink]

Question. Is is single or multi box? Been looking for a good time playing 1 single character.

[@grimmftw8044]

@@BroadbandLink Strict single box IP check. You can however, run mule/bank alts at the same time with special rules.

[@dessius]

@@BroadbandLink this server is single box!

[@Lessthanpropane]

love the videos man! I've got an troll war at 11 and an erudite enchanter at 3! listening to your videos while solo Leveling is great!

[@dessius]

that's awesome! ty =)

[@milat9287]

Very comfy watch with a nice voice. Thank ya friend!

[@ernestscribner9184]

I have a low level necro on Quarm. The server feels more authentic to me, approximates my experience in the early 2000s. I play EQ in small binges over the course of a year. Come back when I feel like it. I like the low level progression, when a number going up or a new piece of equipment means a lot.

[@jonvvoid]

I really wish I could get back into EQ. I played on launch day and for about 2 years after. Went back to it during GoD, formed a guild, and raided up to PoP. Those were the days. I can't really go back because all I want to do is get my original epic, the quest I've been on since the beginning (Paladin - ugh lol). No way I could start my account over. But glad to see people still having fun with the game.

[@DesertTOON]

Great Vlog on an overview of EQ.

[@dessius]

Thank you!

[@TheSentry66]

One of many perks of the Quarm Server: have a Mage / Necro friend help you kill Drelzna when you’re level 20 - bingo, you get Jboots! Started too late and never got a Guise of the Deceiver? No problem, ask some friends for help you smack down that Froglok Assassin in LGuk for your Dark Elf Mask (clickable from your inventory all /all. Many other sweet QoL changes to Quarm! Come over and try it out! 😺

[@TheSentry66]

Oop, forgot to mention cannot loot The Guise until you are level 30 - no problem. 👍

[@dessius]

a dark elf shammy would look pretty sweet! got my character to level 6 so far, it's been fun!

[@TheSentry66]

@@dessius Hah, I agree! Enjoy your content. 👍

[@palto567]

@3:11 There was a version of EQ for Apple machines called Eq Mac. It ran side-by-side with windows through planes of power and then didn't get any expansions after that. The server was called Al’Kabor. Project Al’Kabor was an effort to capture all the gameplay info and recreate in Eq Emulator. It's the most pure snapshot of EQ of all the current oldschool recreations.

[@pip5528]

I've played a dark elf necro on Quarm since launch and only got to 16 recently. Corpse runs begin at 10 and XP loss at 11 on this server.

[@christophergorrin5647]

I played for twenty years I miss eq

[@TheSentry66]

Come on back! Quarm still has a few more months of Classic! Play solo and at your own pace or group up and join a guild - or just mix it up! 😺👍

[@OurMagicalNature]

What is the music playing around 7:00?

[@ponchodog9692]

Just recently got into Everquest a little bit after checking out the live version on steam but wanted to check out the private servers where it seemed more 'real' (starting in different cities and challenge) Ngl, been pretty lost navigating as an ogre warrior but interested in sticking with it here or on p99 which I have yet to check out.

[@dessius]

Enjoy the journey, whichever server you choose! I think getting a little lost is part of the charm of classic EQ lol.

[@kingragnork]

Oh yea, you're definitely meant to get lost.

[@EQ_EnchantX]

Warrior is very gear dependent with no spells. Makes it hard to play as your first character. Casters scale with spells easier, get gate to port to bind etc. Getting a higher level caster and than gearing out a warrior makes them a lot more fun. Started a warrior back in the day, know what I know now, I would start a caster as my first character. Just FYI.

[@MrSerpico145]

I just couldn't get the client to run satisfactorily for Quarm. My mouse cursor would stick to the right screen edge and bottom when it hit there. If like to try this server out, though.

[@xzxxx-km4vy]

right click the game exe and go to high dpi settings and enable that and problem solved. i had the same issue

[@MrSerpico145]

@@xzxxx-km4vy thank you, I'll try that this weekend.

[@MrSerpico145]

@@xzxxx-km4vy sadly the issue persists. If I have the patience I'll play around with it some more, but in the meantime the gf and I are enjoying p99

[@Loug522]

​@@MrSerpico145you need to use the zeal patch to fix the camera issues.

[@real-history-online]

Got that nostolgia feeling... installed client but the mouse on higher resolution than 800x600 doesnt go all the way to the bottom of the screen (once I alt-enter to go fullscreen)... really frustrating

[@dessius]

Check out Zeal. Should be a download link on their website. I think it fixes most of those issues.

[@j-sin3344]

Makes sense w the name Quarm it would go thru PoP. I played live thru PoP and part time thru GoD. I think I'm going to jump in. I do play live now 4 box 122 ATM. But was def thinking about a TLP as well...Great times going back for sure.

[@ehliaskarim1520]

Loving your vids. I agree quarm and P99 are indeed striving for a different experience so can’t really say objectively one is better than the other. Btw, I did play a shammy alt years ago on live and loved it and yes they are phenomenal soloists, although I would contend that they aren’t quite as good as necros and necros aren’t quite as good as the all time champion of soloing-Enchanters, bar none.

[@BoomerElite4u]

I still think Necromancers are better than Enchanters because they have self heals, feign death, and don't really have to worry about their pets killing them anytime they go afk for 2 minutes. I know that in theory Enchanters can do more epic stuff, and can solo things that Necromancers never could, but for casual grinding / farming, I have an easier time on my necromancer. I feel like Shaman is so expensive to reach the same level of lethality that most players are better off leveling a necromancer first. A level 60 necromancer can run around naked and still solo a lot of stuff. A level 60 Shaman on the other hand probably needs Torpor and Epic at a minimum. If you are one of those true min max Shamans then you'll probably want a Fungus Tunic, JBB, fungus staff etc. Just a really expensive class for us poor folks 😜 I also feel like I work a lot harder when I play my Shaman compared to playing my necromancer. But don't get me wrong; Shaman is still my favorite class. Edit: Also even Shaman DoT spells are ridiculously expensive at 50+.

[@jn2400]

I logged into p99 blue and wondered where everyone went. Now I see where lol

[@Gukworks]

Planes of power is right around when I quit EQ.

[@staceym.parker8122]

Cool.

[@Tomahawk588]

I played from 1999 to 2005 on the Mithanial Marr server. I might try and log back on to see what has evolved.

[@dessius]

you should! would be an interesting experience

[@jn2400]

The only thing I need to know is...does quarm use the gross newer models?

[@Abusiveyes]

I love everquest. I love this video. I love the old expansions, I hate anything past PoP. That being said, I'm so used to the modern UI and quality of life changes, I could never go back to playing p99 or Quarm. I love watching videos of people play them though.

[@kaledreams601]

Shamans do good melee damage until 34. Especially as ogre. Meleeing in groups is good unless your healer

[@dessius]

Thanks for letting me know!

[@sladen3884]

@@dessius It is pretty rare to find yourself in too many group situations where you aren't going to be main healer, or at least slower. Most of your melee chances are going to come from soloing and small grouping with a fear kiter. Sitting for mana (untill canni dancing makes it even more annoying) is going to be far too common, even as an ogre, once you start hitting the teens.

[@Choklar_]

I tried PQ last night. Coming from p99. I enjoyed it, but I think my main issue is I didn't like any of the UI options, but I did find QQQuram UI which I think is what I need to really get into Quram. I've never been a fan of duxaui and always used QQUI, but the default QQ that comes with Quram is pretty horrible, lol. So, I'm going to give QQQuram UI a try tonight after work. I feel like this is going to be the ticket to me getting hooked, and hard, lol.

[@GC_Rallo]

Currently trying to decide between the new "Mischief" style TLP or Quarm. I love EQ so much, but the fact it's just such a known entity really hurts it for me. I hate that everyone knows every single thing, takes alot of the magic out of it. And twinking too, like I'm doing something wrong if I'm not running around in level 40-50-60 gear at level 20. I wanna hunt for gear myself, as a melee, and not get trashed for it. I hate that was born too late to truly experience classic EQ as it happened

[@Duncan275]

Is this music in game? Why have I never noticed THIS music on p99?

[@MetalDave92]

For some reason the music in p99 is broken. The only one that ever played for me was the Kael theme and its awful lol

[@bsheets5888]

I think i prefer Quarm. I actually prefer the luclin models. And the future expectation being able to see luclin again is nice. P99 nerfed most quests so the only way to level is straight grinding. Still fun tho you cant go wrong with either

[@andygluehere8266]

If I new some people on project Quarm, I would play this server every day. The run from classic to Pop was the best EQ had to offer in my opinion.

[@Lessthanpropane]

new player here! got a couple characters going and need more friends!

[@dessius]

what class(es) are you thinking of rolling?

[@Lessthanpropane]

@@dessius so far I have a lvl 11 troll WAR, lvl 11 erudite enchanter, and a lvl 7 high elf cleric!

[@michaelpants]

Project Quarm is an excellent addition to the EQEmulator universe. I'm not sure it is for me, but I had a lot of fun.

[@dessius]

I agree! it's awesome seeing all these new avenues of playing this game.

[@Pablo-bb3ko]

I play on P99 Blue

[@dessius]

Nice! I have a 30 warrior on there from a looooong time ago

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

I would love to see that server go ahead and finish up broken Quest. They have my blessing to polish and complete even so far as to create new zones at the obvious Zone lines

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Oggok what's designed to have another Zone for example

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Also could reintroduce the evil races teleportation system. Might I suggest having to be a relay with a forward or backward clicking shenanigans

[@ElHobbito]

high level shaman is lots of cannabalizing! lol

[@dessius]

That's what I've heard! lol

[@danmolina2724]

I played and still play p99 Quarm and live all EQ but totally diff EQ experiences - currently playing Quarm lvl 42 chanter

[@superinfinityfilms]

I fell asleep waiting for that spell to scribe

[@Czjk293]

P99 is better imo. The reason the game is good is because it tries to be a sim. This gets devalued when custom content instances are introduced. The problem both servers have is endless content online that explains everything. A big part of the sim experience is discovery, which is mostly lost 15 years into EQemu servers. When I did my epic quest back in 2000 it was done without looking up maps or a guide on a website. I was forced to connect with members of my class in game to figure the things out that I couldn't on my own. I suppose EQ is just something different now. That being said, the game has nostalgia value and is great for new players that don't have everything committed to memory. It will hold your hand less than most other games out there.

[@HeWhoKnows777]

IMHO EQLIVE is just fine and brings all but a few of the expansions playable.

[@Mizgog-co7cb]

i have never played EQ. I have allways wanted to.. Im 35 years old. I played Runescape classic when i was a kid. But i am going to give this game a chance with project quarm. : D

[@dessius]

that's awesome!

[@dedaoff]

The leveling just seems way harder for me.

[@xvilemx]

I'd say it's about the same as live was. It's definitely harder to solo if you didn't start when EQ launched and there was cheaper, more powerful gear to be had to help out with the leveling. Having a 5 dmg weapon well into your 30s makes the leveling insanely hard as compared to getting 8-12 dmg weapons that you'd have in Kunark and Velious.

[@boot-strapper]

both quarm and p99 are both WAY different than how classic actually was, including mob spawn points, paths, and behavior. Sadly we will never get to experience it again.

[@TheHedgehogsDelimma]

The warped tiktok version of Everquest ran and administrated by deranged and unpredictable divas.

[@jab6044]

Salelann, Shaman, former leader of Legend of Marr. Hit me up if you recognize me.

[@dessius]

will do!

[@lolwhatidk]

no map no buy

[@sladen3884]

Being unable to find anything within a country mile of your level range is the *pure essence* of starting out as a new ogre lol. Only the trolls have it worse, with actual KOS named mobs roaming their newbie zone, and everything being half underwater. The unforgiving environment really punctuates how awesome it is to find a buddy to kill things with, for safety as much as companionship.

[@Coaltiger2024]

Did he just say shamans are the best soloers

[@ChefBrianCooks]

Things like the compass are the types of things that slowly made the game worse. Sure it is nice to have for navigating but what is the point of having a skill called sense heading? P99 and our memories from that era are directly corelated to the difficulty of it. With each expansion they just kept getting rid of so much that is became watered down.

[@stus2159]

I tried out quarm, the problem is once the nostalgia wares off you realize it's just one giant LFG waiting room with way too many rules. I prefer live servers, specifically mischief, the quality of life improvements like pick zones allow you to actually play the game, instead of waiting to join a group. Also the hate for boxing doesn't make sense, you become 100% reliant on others to do anything in the game.

[@EXP_Jenova]

The biggest problem with boxing is that it takes it from sometimes being hard to find a group, to almost never being able to find a real group. If you let players do everything themselves, they’ll always choose that over grouping. Unless they absolutely have to, ie: raids.

[@stus2159]

@@EXP_Jenova Yea i get that but when you pick a class like warrior or rogue you can't solo and level yourself up. This is something that WOW got right, allow every class to solo up to a certain point, but still have content that requires a group.

[@dessius]

I've dabbled in Mischief (76 monk) and have a few 115 chars on live, definitely a more self-sufficient experience which I appreciate in times where I don't have a lot of time to commit to the game. I do personally like the contrast of also relying on others as well. I think playing a necro on P99 is a nice blend of both the self-sufficiency yet also cooperation with other players.

[@stus2159]

@@dessius Relying on others to raid and do harder content is fine, but just to personally progress your character is dumb. The game developers realized this flaw which is why things like mercs and balance change AA's were added. The P99 thinking is dated.

[@zedorian6547]

If only I could play EverQuest on a controller with proper support (which should be very possible these days) I would probably be able to actually appreciate EverQuest as a game much more than currently…..then again I also think that there is no reason that EverQuest shouldn’t be ported to consoles since even the Switch is way more powerful than what EQ came out on back in the day or what it takes to run it now.

[@dessius]

I would love to play EQ on the controller!! I had an addon for WoW where I could use one and it was really satisfying. I'm sure someone could figure it out lol

[@zedorian6547]

@@dessius yeah! The addon you probably used was most likely ConsolePort and i think someone did figure it out for EverQuest 2 but I mean….it’s EverQuest 2 lmao

[@sudabdjadjgasdajdk3120]

exp on quarm is dogshit

[@BoomerElite4u]

I've played on P99 for 10 years and never even had a warning or a negative experience with a player. I played on Quarm for 2 weeks and got banned while I wasn't even online because the mods are incompetent. Instead of admitting that they messed up they attacked me and threatened me with legal action and lawsuits when I made a KZbin video explaining my side of the story. There's a reason why you never see negative videos about Quarm. They will instantly be taken down because Secrets lies about having copyrights to EverQuest. These eventually get over-turned since he is lying, but then he threatens legal action. It's happened to dozens of people I know. So yeah, I will stick with P99. Actually having more fun playing on Blue than I ever had in the 10 years I played on P99 because most of the content that is fun solo challenge content is wide open right now.

[@dessius]

Sorry you had that experience! Glad you're enjoying P99 though =)

[@bad_manbot]

but secrets has demonstrated in the past that they are such a stable / reliable / capable person. WHAT A SURPRISE that they completely changed into this narcissist megalomaniac overnight! /s

[@Drew_2308]

quarm is way better, don't waste your time on p99

[@Nickelback8469]

Different strokes for different folks, they have similar experiences overall but they aren't trying to replicate the same thing. Quarm isn't for me and I'll stick to p99, but I hope you and others similarly minded enjoy Quarm.

[@jaredh923]

The difference is that server will quickly die.

[@DontMindMeImAnIdiot]

No. It's trash af. Go play p99 if you want a great classic eq experience.

[@planeofmischiefdotcom]

is gud