Should We Give Ashes of Creation a Chance?

[@NixxiomOnYouTube]

Based on what you've seen in the Alpha test, are you more hyped for Ashes of Creation, or is this MMO just dead in the water? I know for a lot of you the hype has certainly been soured by all the drama. Also, if you want to support the channel consider getting an upgrade to your gear: tinyurl.com/34ute5c4

[@Zelpex]

This game is going to be insane, the alpha is already so good and there will be so many improvements coming!

[@Littlecowardgaming]

Played the alpha 2 a week ago and although not a "game" yet. As the developers have stated many times, this is a TEST. They're primarily focusing on network/performance and stability right now, not gameplay and content. If you or anyone want to check this game out as a GAME, you'd best wait til may when phase 3 comes where their focus goes onto first player experience and overall content. If you want to try the combat and experience a small glimpse of their beautiful world (graphics, lighting and shading is not again fully implemented, so some places will look unpolished, because it is an alpha), then i'd highly recommend it, but dont buy into the alpha expecting anything near a functioning GAME. You'll run around mindlessly killing mobs, which albeit fun, isn't how the game is meant to be played at launch. But having played it over a weekend, the combat is REALLY good. Obviously needs polish and work as everything else, but i'd say i've had more fun in this games combat than many fully released mmos these days.

[@jennifermccollough6576]

I'm having a good time despite the bugs. Pvp is really broken at the moment but its otherwise turning into a solid game. I can't wait for more of the lore. The dev's passion for this project is so infectious that I hope they do succeed and all the nay sayers will finally hush.

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

Let’s just face it, Activision killed their own game along time ago. Let it die with dignity. Lots of new games and companies on the horizon worth our time and money.

[@evilryce3513]

I've been playing the last 2 weeks and have been enjoying myself very much. The graphics and open world dungeon designs are amazing with some fun secrets to find. I can't wait for more areas to open up so I can explore them and experience the many new systems being introduced soon.

[@YoungsterJoey151]

If we're going to keep giving Blizzard chances, then we should probably be open to a company that hasn't done us dirty yet.

[@AuxxiliaryATC]

I mean at this point how can you complain about other companies trying something new including open development, while these same complainers buy the 90$ mount from Blizzard… (I agree with you btw)

[@minementalx]

Maybe if we give Microsoft even more money WoW will finally be really really good again!? Imagine how good WoW would be if everyone would do their part and bought the 90$ mount...

[@TheEpicload]

@@minementalx immagine how good WoW could be if Blizzard would listen to the fans and understand what makes a good mmo a good mmo WoW gets milked till its dead.

[@Trolololeos]

Steven Sharif clicked his skills in ArcheAge. All you need to know.

[@PhurPher]

Best argument I've heard yet to play the game as a WoW player.

[@haridiam915]

I think Nixxiom is missing the point and just seeing it as a consumer. The long development time only seems this long as it was crowd funded and developed in an open manner from the start. Any MMO takes years to make, we just dont hear about most of them until they’re much further into development.

[@MonticueGaming]

True but this is an important view point since most of the player base are not going to be as in the know as most streamers, youtubers, and mmo fanatics

[@somerandy3062]

The problem is that the fanboys refuse to acknowledge the reality. After years in development, this game is simply disappointing. A two-person indie team could have produced a superior game by now. This title is absolutely not the next "World of Warcraft" killer; in fact, it fails to be a contender at all. The game is mediocre, poorly crafted, and it's bound to fail. While those clinging to hope might not want to hear this, it’s the undeniable truth. The game will release and be popular for 3 to 4 months before declining.

[@Krieghandt]

@@somerandy3062 Really? Star Citizen spent $700 million and the back end isn't done. Planetside had TWO games and still couldn't get over 300 people in a battle. Game mechanics, sure. Indie developers are great at game mechanics, but server side takes a whole different skill set. And money. The last server farm (a cluster supercomputer for the NSF and Los Alamos National Labs) that I built, the room alone cost $2 million dollars to build. And we burned 10 grand a month in electricity. And we were paying generator rates. So no, a 2 man indie team would not be where Intrepid is now.

[@ps1bladez]

@@somerandy3062 bro you are replying to every comment, its only a game god damn

[@SkullxFreak]

@@somerandy3062 Wow was 1st revealed 3 years before its release but thats not including all the progress on the game before that from a fully funded studio of an already existing IP, if we follow the trend they had for other games like starcraft(much smaller game to make with people who worked on bug fixing the already developed game said they worked on it for 3 years before release) they would have announced it 2-3 years after starting the project. putting wow on 5-6ish year time frame. Ashes of creation is a small just started studio, so a longer time is not ridiculous as the funding started 7 years ago not to mention they changed to unreal 5 causing a delay. Ashes fans do not think its a wow killer, its a VERY different mmo closer to EVE online over Wow. That's youtubers and wow players As someone who is actually testing the game, the game feels good while clearly an actual alpha, Dev team is responsive and already fixing bugs from prior weeks. and as someone who played a few thousand hours in retail wow and a few hundreds in classic I have more faith already in Intrepid to fix bugs than blizzard (fun fact legion require intro instance still bugs most attempts where the npcs just dont contiune and thus you have to try again. its been over 1 year since the bug was 1st reported on forms with proof this does effect people who have already done it and can just skip it but anyone whos never played legion or wants to farm tmog from argus will run into this issue) With the current path this game is following it will be a success in the style of game it was always promised to be (eve has had a player base for years and archeage killed itself with P2W) Where are you getting your sources for poorly crafted and mediocre? did you play or did you watch some youtuber who didnt like how the alpha wasnt a full game a complained and your just repeating what they said?

[@ZapatosVibes]

I've played non-stop all 4 weekends so far, about 100-120 hours in. And i'm still addicted and can't wait to login on Friday and keep diving deep into the Artisan systems. Despite being super bare-bones, it already feels like the RPGs of old and so far really delivers on that promise. I can't wait to see what comes next in Phase 2 on December 20th (also going to be a wipe, fresh start for everyone). The developers have shown nothing but extreme efficiency, open communication and true passion for the game, which is an absolute breath of fresh air in the swamp that has become the past 15 years of MMORPGs. Make of that what you will :)

[@Braven-j7m]

I will judge it when its finished

[@bohne8746]

wise

[@franciscoroncero1793]

Really wise sir

[@mazmundie]

Highest IQ take so far

[@carl5939]

so never?

[@weatheredseeker]

We all need to give Ashes an honest chance and back it. A privately owned mmo is a huge deal. This could change the market entirely because they aren't beholden to shareholders.

[@Erumyr]

will be the next big - DAOC is a good comparison

[@PhurPher]

Hey, that's my thoughts on the matter. Guy genuinely swears no P2W ever, only skins. 15 a month, no box cost, half of it's funded from the CEOs own pocket, other half from the community mostly. He's a D&D DM and long term MMO player... like what's not to love

[@Erumyr]

@@PhurPher P2W would never work in this game, I am in alpha

[@rocsek_]

I was a kick starter backer. Have been enjoying A2. I keep hearing people say paying however much to play a game and that isn't what this is. This is deciding to support a studio and their game development with the bonus of being able to help them test and shape the game itself. That way, once this game does launch we'll have the MMO that people want to spend 1000s of hours in

[@Waiin3]

"Should We Give Ashes of Creation a Chance?" Brother you play WoW and have given blizzard a million chances in which they dont deserve what kind of question is this to a new game in its alpha stage 😂😂

[@thewal1ofsleep]

Did you even watch the video?

[@TeamSleep]

Bullseye 🎯

[@TheNEPTY]

I’ve been playing it for 2 weeks and you should. It’s already the best mmo for community out there.

[@1ViivviiX1]

Unless you're Asmongold, lmao.😅 I'm just joking. It seems cool, though. I'm glad you're enjoying it.

[@Gurubu]

It's shiny and new but still in Alpha and sure if a KZbinr or streamer has a community something different to bring your community to f around with

[@somerandy3062]

I appreciate your point about the game having the best MMO community, but let's be clear: it is far from being the best MMO game. In fact, it’s downright terrible and deserves to be tossed in the trash, just like all the other failed titles that came before it. While World of Warcraft does boast an outstanding community, it's refreshing to see people criticize it openly. It's frankly absurd how Ashes of Creation gets treated with such kid gloves, despite being a poorly made game.

[@CobaltsRealm]

omg this stupid kid wants to reply everywhere he hates the game like steven slept with his mom xD

[@paullowe8437]

@@1ViivviiX1 i mean you arent kidding his community is psychotic and weird!! i will NOT be playing anytwhere near his server

[@Kiko-n2g]

We should applaud, encourage, and support AoC and even games like Star Citizen for making the attempt to produce a new game. Drama aside bcus im sure every game developed in all history has had drama. At the very least if a game comes along and challenges blizz's monopoly and steals some subs, that would force blizz's hand to produce more than just re-runs, re-skins, and re-releases. We should be supporting this vs looking for reasons to hate from the sidelines.

[@kakeup]

I've been playing it for the last 2 weekends and it's a lot of fun, it's janky and it needs a lot of work but it has potential, I like the slower pace, the long term goals I have as well as the goals we have within our node and the social aspect. This game is a long time from release I think so in my opinion it's $120.00 well spent already and I now have access to it for the years while it develops and I get to help it develop.

[@SkullxFreak]

Not to mention we get to play the game for all the tests till it comes out which will be way more then a 15 dollar sub would be for the duration. If the game releaed in a year( it will take longer but even just a year) we are getting May, June. July. August. September. October, November and 1 month of real game which is already almost 120 dollars and thats not including the 1st 2 phases of the alpha and the cosmetic currency. I would say its pretty worth it

[@kakeup]

@SkullxFreak yeah I thought the same way when I bought in.

[@tiger7634]

Yeah i thinks it's totally worth it. Im addicted

[@qwertpoo1]

simple answer... YES

[@gavenparkinson594]

Guarantee as soon as December hits and they add the new content and open it up to 5 days a week, there will be so many people raving about how awesome it is,

[@onyx4469]

pretty that that will be the case the only question is how much of the promises will be delivered i'm cautiously optimistic especially since Steven sometimes trolls people in game by spawning unreleased but fully animated nearly polished mobs which only shows there's still content they aren't showing yet

[@Goji_Bear]

Yup and tbh that's already the case, but there will be even more

[@Rasmanit]

If you want a more "Complete Game" I'd suggest buying Alpha 2 phase 3 access (May 1) when more things in the game will be available. While the game in this current phase is very scuffed the biggest thing they needed to nail from the get go even with an incomplete game is the combat. The combat is one of the best hybrid combat system I've experienced. The only other MMO I've played whose combat I've enjoyed this much is Tera.

[@Ides385]

I was blown away by how fun the combat was. Was a huge concern for me and it is the shinning star of the alpha. Even the biggest haters are saying, ok this combat is fun. I second tapping into phase 3. Most expect that to be the true Alpha game. Not just janky tests.

[@1ViivviiX1]

As long as it's not an obvious flop with an endless list of negatives with very little pros, then I think you should give any game that interests you a chance. I know its a clickbait(ish) style. But it's actually moving along and is obviously not a scam, so why not give it a chance? I say this as a long time viewer of yours and WoW player of nearly 20+ yrs. Don't deny yourself potential fun, if anyone thinks it looks likes its worth the time (or money) then give it a try. I plan on doing so on an official release most likely at this point.

[@garsux6065]

People pay 180 bucks for a year sub for WoW... 120 bucks sounds okay for the entirety of alpha 1, 2, beta 1, and beta 2... plus the random in-game currency and month sub... I'm having fun in it so I guess it's money well spent

[@RoamingGolem]

I'd say give it a chance on the weekends; IT DOES HAS BUGS SO WHEN PLAYING REPORT THEM!!! Don't be strayed by people saying the games gonna flop; no it's not a WOW killer cause AOC is more like Eve Online if you've played it before, and yes i watch as many streamers as i can play AOC and sit there quietly not back-seating people in a game I HAVE NERVER PLAYED yet; not yet but when it's 2025 i will get into AOC.

[@ilttheDude]

I’m in the alpha 2 and I absolutely love it

[@ThermalX90]

I just want to put it out there that AoC is taking most of it's systems from Archeage, because that's where Steven came from and what he loved - so did I. Most of what they are doing isn't new. The node system is novel in the sense that is combines prior systems into one large one with their own spin and polish on it, hopefully making it more cohesive. The dynamic world alterations tied to nodes are, as far as I know, unique. However, if they succeed in delivering what they have said is their goal, it will be the most feature rich and largest scale sandbox MMO in this setting ever made. It will be mostly Archeage all over again without some of the drawbacks it had. It will be more capable, dynamic and scaled up significantly. This is a monumental task and you'd be right in being skeptical. However, the devs have proven thus far to be effective, attentive and reactive to feedback and are on track with their roadmap. AoC isn't for everyone, it's a sandbox in nature. I don't think it will be lore heavy and I don't expect cinematics or good story telling - though I'd love that very much - as Archeage was very grind focused and AoC is looking like the same.

[@nanfoodles]

OG backer and playing A2. Im an old school MMOer. DAoC EQ and much more. Ashes is a real game, there is no scam here. But its also going to be 1-2 years to get this done from what I see.

[@WooootSD]

Me and some friends jumped in last weekend, and had a blast, and we are optimistic and ready for a lot more. Cant wait for weekend now!

[@Nochte]

Based on these comments, the ones who have been testing the alpha like the game. The ones who don't want to give it a chance are the ones complaining.

[@TheHighborn]

dude it's so fun

[@elwow4351]

It is always funny to hear about development time and some scam things, but no one says about Riot MMO where after 4+ years we don't even have any screen or anything. Compare that to indie developer who started with like 15 people onboard and just recently achieved 100+ workers.

[@OneoftheHuns]

As Ive been playing it since Alpha 2 began, Im honestly very hyped for when it comes out in full. Intrepid has been super transparent throughout the whole development process, and while this game may not be for everyone, it will definitely be my main game upon release.

[@LookAtUrManBack2Me]

bruh i love the channel but turn that back ground music WAY DOWN or completely off. just cuz every one is doing it doesn't make it good.

[@zepho100]

Let’s give it a chance and give an honest take in phase 3. That’s when the “content” is implemented.

[@nordy259]

I backed the game during their 2017 Kickstarter. Anyone who says the game is good right now isn't being truthful. Aside from the bugs there's very little content at the moment. The foundation and the desire is there though. I'd 100% recommend anyone interested to buy in for phase 3 in May. By that time the game should be in a playable state.

[@TheRyndiculous]

Hell yeah, good on you Nixxiom! I for one will be keeping an eye on AoC until it launches. Hoping for the best!

[@phillkyupers1602]

Give it a chance. Stevens team is doing their maximum every day during this Alpha development.

[@123FireSnake]

give it a chance, absolutely. Will it deliver? I would say on parts, I just hope they get the player driven stuff down sufficiently well for them to work out the rest of the issues for when they inevitably have to release in a not quite finished state.

[@MonticueGaming]

Been following ashes for years and while im still debating on getting into the alpha im so pumped to hear all the good news

[@tiger7634]

It's great...

[@Boo_Teck]

If 100$ arent big deal for you, buy it. I know its still honeymoon phase but looks at comment of ppl who were playing last 2 weekends. 99% of players (including myself) are positive about game

[@davidsumpter4933]

I myself am/would wait for Phase 2, which should arrive before Christmas (Dec 20th).

[@77rockcity]

Wait for Alpha phase 2, then yes.

[@Gurubu]

The answer is let's wait for a more fleshed-out release that doesn't cost an arm and a leg

[@Raff1469]

I personally think AoC will be hype for a month or less before it becomes another MMO with its own small niche community. Black Desert was just as ambitious yet it's not as popular as WoW. I think it's another hype bomb bound to explode before it fades away.

[@JohnAPrescott]

Don't buy this expecting to play a game. You are buying into 1.5 years of testing. Nothing more nothing less. Also, as a side note. There has never been any scope creep...ever. Most people just conveniently forget about Covid and in California which was the strictest lock down state known to God. I've been playing this non stop, I'm having a blast, reporting bugs, seeing the promised systems in real time, nodes, new friends...etc. Plus when have you seen a creator or a dev in game with the players????

[@pvprangergod4024]

pay us to test our game for us LOL

[@Danevirke-the-Gamer]

ESO was crap on launch, so were so many other mmos but we gave them a chance. Weve stuck with wow despite its issues.

[@veeshan222]

Im no Hero im a peasant and mobs are scary to little old me with a pitchfork to defend myself, Long road for a peasant to be a warrior/Mayor/leader/mage and so on :) nice change of pace if they elivery half of what they promist o god :3

[@technodrone313]

i will if it comes out and has good feedback going into launch. definitely not paying to test their bugs.

[@patrickobrienstr]

I want to see you play it bad

[@tiger7634]

I been playing, and so far i love it.Idk what ither people think, but for a game thats in beginning of a true alpha its pretty damn fun.

[@rumyelfrostfire9273]

What I would recommend more for people is to try it in May if they really want to. Now it is not really there, many systems not up, mostly a grindfest for now and the world is not yet as good as it can be. But it is wonderful for the community spirit and old time randomly making party and guilds out of nowhere just because you happen to almost die near each other and decided that hey maybe we can fight together than alone. 3 weeks in and feels like it has the potential to be the succesful succesor of lineage 2 :D . Lets wait and see for now how fast they can churn content for now.

[@thewal1ofsleep]

It might be great but i just don't have the time or patience for an MMORPG at this point in my life. As much as i love vanilla WoW, I couldn't justify the time investment and the need to find friends if I wanted to raid. I have a career and a family which deserve my time more than a game I have to schedule time to play.

[@TheHighborn]

Ashes is already great. Yes it's bare bones, but I have tremendous fun

[@danceplaylist3481]

I don't know what is going to happen in the future. I only do know that I have enjoyed playing WoW for years and that I am currently enjoying (playing) Ashes of Creation Alpha 2 (especially with other people in game, building relationships/reputations/etc. experiencing an increasingly familiar world community as well as getting to know new people as I meet them and/or new people join the server I'm on😄). I'm also impressed by the Intrepid company as a whole, as well as singularly with their employees, at times. Sometimes in the past the Blizzard company as a whole and/or singular employees (and mostly in the era of Activision owning the company) have disappointed me for a number of (for me possibly determining) reasons as to why in the future I may decide to play AoC over WoW sometimes/more often than not/etc. (though again I still to this day find joy in playing WoW and believe there are people in the Blizzard company whom want to achieve admirability for the game and the company etc.). Thank you for posting the video I found it interesting and informative.😄

[@CoStarkTV]

Nixxiom video about Ashes? YES DUDE!!!!!!

[@AcidGubba]

Unreal Engine 5 is used to speed up production. It is also possible to migrate from 4 to 5, which was not possible with 3 to 4. Basically, the effort for migration is not that great. Even laymen can create things with Unreal 5 Engine - it doesn't cost any money. Personally, I prefer Unity more because Unreal Engine has such a typical Unreal Engine 5 look, which is pretty genetic, and all developers have the same problems and think it's the game's fault. The workarounds to reduce stuttering are pretty wild. It's best to start the subscription model during the development phase. The people who still seriously believe that they really trying to develop something are crazy. I wonder when people will realize that MLM structures are being used in the game. For me it's pretty clear that it's a scam. Actually, there is only a concept; people buy an idea rather than a product. As long as you only sell a concept and people want to hold on to it, you can do it for several years. There are also people who want to believe in a god regardless of the known facts.

[@georgestain2803]

Back in my days MMORPG was synonym to colorful chat and social network.

[@VundalI]

Been playing alpha 2. Every week brings new changes and bug fixes and the game can actually support 100 players in a single zone already with minimal issues (usually..alpha is alpha!) most systems are not in yet but damn combat feels great and their transperency has been great ro see

[@VictoryOrValhalla14]

What? You can’t even auto attack off a skill on cooldown. You have to press an extra button, it’s terrible.

[@ashesofcreachawn]

It needs to be known! The 120 dollar price tag is NOT just for alpha! It’s for alpha, beta, and a few months of free play! I highly recommend it. If not just to play but to take part in development where developers actually listen to you.

[@burtmacklin6443]

Ashes of Creation is sick. I'm cool with all the pushbacks as long as they continue to have weekly play time. A lot of people making these videos don't understand what an Alpha is. Alpha and Beta are stages of testing to flush out bugs before the product is launched. Alpha is the first playable state, that's it, nothing fancy, no marketplace, no friends lists, it's barebones. It's buggy as expected and I have reported a ton of bugs so far as is expected of me participating in the Alpha. If you think an Alpha means the game is close to completion you are out of your mind. December 10th the Rogue is being added and it isn't until May when the Summoner is supposed to be added. There is still a long way to go. To ask now if you should give Ashes of Creation a chance is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Ask again in 7 months when all the Archtypes have been added or better yet wait until there is an Open Beta or something like a year from now.

[@koenvanbiervliet7175]

Intrepid hasn't cut or expanded any of the promises they set out in the initial kickstarter of 2017. Progress has taken years yet the direction has always remained steady. They delayed for the transition to UE5, the fundamental rework their combat after A1 and to rapidly expand their staff when other studios had big layoffs. They can do that because Intrepid has never been in a rush to release nor have they been in financial trouble. Intrepid is in it for the long run and Ashes will release when it's ready. Regarding the cost of the Alpha, that's pretty much the monthly cost you would pay for a lot of live-service games or subscription based mmo's. Which makes perfect sense when you consider that running the Alpha test environment produces most of the same costs. Servers, support, moderation, bug fixing, ... Paying for testing isn't for everyone, but it sure is satisfying when they fix a bug that my friends and me reported. Bugs are getting fixed, problems are getting patched and for me every weekend has run smoother. Regardless of all that, even with only 1/5 of it's features currently live and only 1/18 biomes mostly developed, Ashes is already challenging and fun.

[@MMOcritic]

Looking forward to reviewing the game via content creators such as yourself. You have always given an honest look as well as a unique spin on your “fun” element. I think with the way video games are going we might have to stop looking back at what was. However I am a bit bothered by the consistent micro/macro transaction. But hey, I get it. Good take my dude, I’ve watched you since 2016 I think.

[@brimstonevalar6053]

Game is amazing for now it has great potential for sure not for everyone but I love it

[@shenna9324]

this is trash, they only made a map in the unreal engine editor, and added some mobs

[@dragonking3915]

Hey, Nixxiom. Nice chair! 💪

[@miramalverick2767]

I wanna play it.. my reasons has nothing to do with what others players want from ashes. Magic in ashes look more Magical compared to other games, you see the characters making symbolic poses, magic circles show up and so on, something world of warcraft would not dream of doing.. or any other mmo I ever played for that matter. There is also a lot of class skin, they basically did what wow did with the hero talents, but 20x the amount, and with more depth and fantasy. i love it because i'm so TIRED of going on a mmo and see "Oh mage, let me guess.. does he use fire, ice and lightning?" the basic rpg classes are boring, predictable and overused.

[@gregjross852]

Symbolic poses and magical circles then saying that’s something wow would not do is literal brain rot. 😂 Casting animations are unique to race in Wow and magical circles appear every 2 seconds in any type of group content. Monk? Ring of piece, DH? Sigils and more Sigils, Mage? Lol meteor,flame strike,blizzard ect ect, warlock? Reign of fire? Evoker? Literally flying over the battlefield breathing fire. Listen I’m hyped for this game too but that’s just a stupid comment

[@miramalverick2767]

@@gregjross852 dh sigils are the closest thing, but no.. the fact you said stuff like ring of peace, meteor, you count that as a magical circle? also, just because each race does its own thing.. does not make it symbolic. the day I will admit this game got magical circles, will be the day a huge hexagram materializes in front of you where the fire ball passes through or something.

[@travisparkel9619]

I'm not sure if half of what they promise will be enough but we will see lol

[@blackfalcon1324]

Honestly I am perfectly fine with them selling alpha access. Atleast I get to, you know, play alpha. When its free its, put your name in a hat and 'hope' you are chosen. Sorry, no.

[@TwistedSMF]

After about an hour, I tried the Alpha but could not get into it. The questing takes time to follow. It has had some updates since that time, But I dunno. Perhaps it's just getting used to it. The combat does not work for me at all. Ashes should be made behind the scenes and pushed out when it was very late beta testing. While I do appreciate the hands-on approach that Steven has taken, It just makes this game feel like this game may come out; my grandkids will play it while I am too old to play anymore.

[@nugosaurus]

i really want to try it but the price tag to do their testing for them is INSANE

[@ChrisTehKiller169]

unlike any other game that claimed to be a "wow killer" there are two factors that look promising for ashes 1. they didnt say they were the wow killer, other people are saying that about them 2. they have a clear timeline and open development and theyre sticking to it this is a lot more professionally managed than any other project that has claimed this.

[@shenna9324]

1. there's a video where steven said: it will be the biggest mmorpg release ever 2. the release date was 2020, they are 4+ years behind schedule

[@VictoryOrValhalla14]

lol 8 years and they debut this absolute garbage.

[@dumorte]

good things come to those who wait

[@Santoryu_CDS]

ive played A2 for the last few weekends and ive been loving it and right now its just in the grind mobs phase for lvling and pvping at max lvl which is lvl 25 and its been so much fun imo it definitely has great bones i can only seeing it going up from here

[@parkermm]

Hard to forget that they were fully ready to drop development on the mmo when they thought the battle royale mode (AoC Apocalypse) was going to make them a quick buck. 😬 I would still love for this to shake up the mmo space, but idk

[@gregjross852]

It’s in Alpha im hyped for it but once again it’s in a PAID Alpha. They’ve done a good job creating hype but even in beta we won’t have any idea how the game will land and how things will turn out on launch lol. Game can be great and will pop off due to streamer popularity but all it takes is a couple early bumps for an MMO to dissolve quite fast. We will know how good this game is 3-5 months after launch.

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

If they made a city of heroes on unreal 5.5 that would be a absolute hit out of the park. Best Character creation ever.

[@lukefrederiks5906]

Pretty balanced video. Interested to hear how your view of Ashes evolves over the course of Alpha 2, the eventual Betas, and full release!

[@ScoobyTimes2]

I bought into an alpha and I've had fun playing the test version of the game so it's a win for me 😁👊

[@Trolololeos]

Steven Sharif clicked his skills in ArcheAge. All you need to know.

[@pvprangergod4024]

and charges $120 to play alpha, but then fanboys say theres "no box price" lmao.

[@rq7035]

Do mmo players have a choice?? Not really

[@felinakats6716]

scraping together money to buy the €110,- key. really looking forward to trying the game, but indeed a bit scared it may stay forever as late alpha / early beta like so many other games lately.

[@alexkompare-pavlic3935]

the pronle is not that we are heros, champions or special problem are the systems, the stories are usually fine

[@fefner1642]

Best alpha ive been in, coming from playing many old school mmos im having a blast. It definitely has great potential.

[@albertgm2467]

People calling this game a scam at this point it just dumb a thing to think. This game is not a scam(scam ≠ not succesing), everyone who saw steven's interviews and streams now that he is just a simply guy with money that like d&d and mmos and want to make a game that he would like. He make a studio with real developers(some of them are exdevelopers from other big proyects) and they are actually developing things. A real scam doesn't work like that a real scam doesn't expend a lot of money making a supposed fake game and even reach this lvl of development, doesn't have the lvl of comunication intrepid have and when a scam show things to people is actually not gameplay or a super scripted gameplay showing as little as possible because there are fake prepared mini scenarios. Look at the day before scam for example, not a lot of comunication and when they show things are screenshots and scripted gameplay to show there is a game but in reality they wasn't even working on it, so when the "game" came out it was just a pile of 3rd party assets put together that's how a scam work so you really think at this point ashes is a scam? If intrepid is a scam it's a rlly stupid scam at this point is worth making the game than scamming people XD

[@tommyho78]

i was never interested in any mmo since i started playing wow 20 yrs ago,,,but ashes got me interested like nixxiom said,,,,i like the node town system,,,not like cookie cutter like other mmos

[@TheDeFiler316]

"Assuming they deliver half of what they promised". So thats where we are at in regards to our standards?

[@dark9nine]

I hope people find a new home there. The game looks beautiful. Thing is the players these days are "special". hard to please them all. Look at the mayority of content creators. Crying about how bad WoW is. Yet they are still paying for it. I feel bad for all good devs trying to provide a solution to this. Its not going to be easy they are going to face the wrath of the cry babies.

[@ufukakkoyun6969]

I just hope they make the classes right..for the love of god make them good and fun to play !

[@EZeast1]

I was loving the game but last weekend ruined everything for me. I was playing with my guild. I’m a tank we then had 2 bards a ranger and 2 mages. As a tank I was dying a lot since we didn’t have our healer online. As a joke I decided to run a bow and we would kite everything. Well we noticed how much extra damage I was doing, so everyone switched to a bow and we just shared everything and we were all around lvl 14. It made me realize how broken the base game is and that’s being the combat and classes. We are also missing the last two classes as well. I feel like the base part of the game should be done or close to being done. We shouldn’t be waiting almost a year for all the base classes let alone passive skills and other things not even working. Feel like there is just too much work left to be done and they don’t have the money to do it all. I hope they prove me wrong but this isn’t looking too good for AoC in my honest opinion.

[@EZeast1]

To end my point. I believe they will be tight on money and they will push the game into 1.0 so they can start charging a monthly fee, so they can have funds to finish the game. With doing that I believe they will lose a good amount of players cause no wants to pay $120 for an alpha and then forced to pay $15 a month to still be in a most likely alpha/beta game that’s missing a lot of stuff still.

[@schippes24]

regarding ashes of creation: a friend of mine backed it when it started at kickstarters like 10years ago. i'm not sure i want to get hyped over this game. i know, MMOs need time, but i'll let myself get hyped when there's an actual release in sight. right now i feel the same way i felt about lost ark like 10years ago, when it was shown first: this game will never be finished, because the devs just keep on adding stuff. i hate the "you're special / a champion" trope so much. just let me be a pesky adventurer that get's looked down upon by strangers.. i come in your town, you give me some stupid chores to do, because you just dont trust me and when i've proven myself you give me the real tasks. but with wow that doesnt work anymore. some of us have slayn old gods and titans, the most powerful things known.. you cant go into a new zone and be an absolute noone. even if the trollelf tribe doesnt know you, they see how you are followed by 15 soldiers that all feel undefeatable just because you, the titanslayer, is there. it's one of the things that i really hate about wow storytelling nowadays. but you cant go back to being an adventurer in that plot anymore, it wouldnt make any sense.

[@ilyakos6948]

test basic systems for 120 dollars? sounds awesome

[@michaeljenkins6707]

I don’t regret but my lack of sleep. This game makes me feel like how I felt in vanilla in 2004. I have alpha to bad I have to wait Friday to Sunday.

[@yakuza0321]

My biggest problem and concern with ashes is the community, it feels like a cult, they praise shitty implementations or even anything new while they complained about same thing in different game. They had this battle royal mode 5 years ago but when i look at stuff from alpha 2 it feels like they regressed in terms of development. And alot of stuff feels like they are just assests placed randomly or copy pasted. You could add on top recent "drama" with asmon where ppl got "perma" bans for attacking asmon and u could say showing flawed system that u can camp low level players and in beta that they started is for testing. And dont get me started on how this company didnt let ppl down... They literally wanted to charge 100$ for only Alpha 2 access and changed it only because of backlash.

[@ThermalX90]

MMO's are not a quick cashgrab. It's a very significant financial risk in today's world, it takes many years, often 10+ to develop. Unfortunately a lot has been reiteration of old systems with a new twist on it. Most often there is nothing unique enough in them to keep players around, whatever novel twist there is wears off and people find themselves bored. Personally I believe themepark mmo's suffer from this more than sandboxes due to the lack of dynamics in their worlds. In sandboxes, you can log into a world quite different than the one you logged out of. In themeparks that's not the case, and it makes it more predictable. It's subjective, which ever you prefer. But in regards to boredom, sandboxes offer more variety and unpredictability in open world gameplay experience. I do think companies play it safe due to the increased risks with MMO's failing and loosing appeal nowadays, which is probably why old formulaic tried and tested systems get reiterated over and over. It's understandable, but undesirable. Often what you see is companies make it as safe as possible to avoid upsetting players (sandboxes are very much not safe which is why you don't see many) and add micro transactions to pull as much income as possible out of it while it lasts. Systems with daily logging rewards are cheap ways to incentivize player login and hopefully get some player engagement which may lead to purchases. Essentially due to a lack of innovation in the space it has become stale, went on a downward trend in popularity and subsequent MMO's had to get creative with incentives to play to recuperate losses and make as much income as possible. I also think we live in a world with a lot of good games out there, free ones too. To incentivize someone to play such a time investment as an MMO versus a solo or coop game with a drop in drop out style gameplay, that's hard. I can see a world where AoC suceeds, but it's a rough path to walk and nothing except fierce dedication to a flawless execution on the promises will get them there.

[@pvprangergod4024]

steven worked as a scammer to make his money, so why would his game not be a cash grab??

[@erismo2138]

"The game has been plagued with delays." Not really. One HUGE delay (Unreal Engine 5, as explained) or one big plague. Missing a deadline here or there is not a plague of delays, that's just normal everyday development, whether a huge kitchen sink sandpark MMORPG or not. A major established studio with a huge team can rush out an MMORPG in 6 years and it will be probably need more work. 7-10 is a more realistic development cycle for an MMORPG. Intrepid launched their Kickstarter in 2017 with basically no team, they had to build the entire studio from the ground up. This game is pretty much on track for a standard development cycle that's not a cash grab, even with the Unreal delay.* 10 may be the high end but it's well within the expected norm. And again, this is an INDIE studio. As far as $120 to get access to Alpha...you will get to play AoC for months and months and months... This game at launch will cost $10 (or maybe $15) a month to play. But you will get to play AoC for 36 months if this takes 3 more years to launch. So that's $120 versus $360 or more.** The longer the game takes, the more value you get. So it's win/win however long the development takes. * And the Unreal 5 move was the right move; the game will be future-proofed. Do you really think you'll want to be playing UE 4 in 2037 when this game is 10 years old? ** Pulling the rug out from under by announcing weekend-only testing, though, that was BS. You're not getting a full month of value, so the math changes a lot. [Unless you can't play Mon-Thur anyway] 5 days a week is fair for an alpha, but weekends only was not, not for a paid alpha.

[@shenna9324]

The release date was 2020 mate.

[@Acebets70]

We will know in 4-5 years !!!

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

YES bro

[@sjohn4134]

Pantheon Rise of The Fallen

[@TheAsagrim]

I would like an mmo like daggerfall

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

So long as you dont give them money, then sure why not? All you need to do is wait, untill they are done. Atleast untill they, make something thats has some good depths, functioning and it feels "finished". Then we can start judging it, so when it goes into BETA and after that. Then we can start talking about giving it any chances, but even after that. Dont give them moeny, untill the game is 100% done and reviews is out. :D If you are not a content creator who gets the money back from your ad revenew and so on, or even gets it for free.

[@1ViivviiX1]

A good and fair take. 🙏

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

@1ViivviiX1 well thank you 😇

[@tyisamess]

I’ve played the alpha and I enjoy the game. I think the foundation for the game is good. It’s buggy and not all the systems are available yet. But, I see the potential. I think with a few more things added hopefully at some point in phase 2. The experience is going to be incredible.

[@marcinsarniak]

I saw the potential in this game to be a popular MMORPG until I realized the direction they are taking is going to be highly unpopular and at best generate 20-50k active players after the hype fades away. Anyone who this the pvp system won't be abused on week 2 is completely delusional. Look at any other pvp mmo ever made.

[@ZenPaladin]

So... ill say this if you have the money very few people are out there batching about the value. I'm sure there are thousands if. It 10's of thousands who are playing a game now. And having fun. Maybe it dies and never releases but for now I'm playing.

[@xefiporhouseofzen8383]

No.. you should not give it a chance. From what you are saying in the video you want to wait. You should wait until the game is finished. Wait until it is out of development and is at full release.

[@TeamSleep]

It’s not even close to being finished 😂.

[@Aasiyah-Swiftheart]

The answer to the title was Yes.

[@jaygerlach6884]

I actually do not think people should purchase the alpha packs if they are interested in "playing a game." The only game to play with AoC is bug hunting. It's broken software that the devs need a large test team to test various aspects of their broken software. It's not a game in it's current state. and I am excited to see the evolution of this broken piece of software. See ya'll next weekend!

[@DanielNistrean]

8 years in development.. For a tab target game.

[@ryan3371]

AoC is literally what an MMO is meant to be This game will finally separate those that actually like MMOs and those that think they like it but just play glorified singleplayer rpgs

[@kristianflamsted9038]

The "MMORPGs are dead" sentiment going around the last couple of years is not true. Maybe the player base is spread thinner because there's more games out there to be played, but I'm pretty certain that there's been more players playing MMORPGs in the years 2021-2024 than there was in the years 2011-2014.