Should We Help Others?

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Kothorix

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@kothorix
@kothorix 5 жыл бұрын
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@Arrowo
@Arrowo 7 жыл бұрын
I always try to help others, most of the time i regret it. I don't regret that i try to help people. I only regret helping the wrong people. But i keep helping cuz i have hope. Hope that humanity can all work together in peace and harmony.. Like that is ever going to happen *sigh*
@littlerollingbean
@littlerollingbean 7 жыл бұрын
ArrowTheWolf remember not to light yourself on fire to keep others warm
@creaturedanaaaaa
@creaturedanaaaaa 7 жыл бұрын
yeah the trees exist.
@AmicusAdastra
@AmicusAdastra 3 жыл бұрын
helping the wrong peoples ? what do you mean ?
@crab2048
@crab2048 7 жыл бұрын
I gave this dude my chips and the next day he stole my banana. *No*
@LHoriginal
@LHoriginal 7 жыл бұрын
Namimutt lol
@demigod217
@demigod217 7 жыл бұрын
he did you a favor
@Polkka_Dot
@Polkka_Dot 7 жыл бұрын
Crab i gave someone my pencil once, didn't see it again till the next art lesson, bitch denies she stole it and doesn't give it back even though I know it's mine because of the marks on it, bitch says she put those marks on it... most people agree with me.
@zenithvesperclips
@zenithvesperclips 7 жыл бұрын
Those are the type of people you *don't* help. Lol
@taleotter
@taleotter 7 жыл бұрын
I definitely think helping has a different definition for people.. but for me helping is just loving someone. Like when you were talking about the wife "helping" and bringing her large husband extra cookies.. I don't see that as love. Love would be doing the right thing. Supporting her husband instead of hurting him further. Love is basically the base for help in my opinion. As long as you're loving and kind, you'll always give help when someone needs it, and get help when you need it. At least that's what I've learned from my experience.
@taleotter
@taleotter 7 жыл бұрын
Also, putting up with other people's weird quirks and not forcing them to change is love in my opinion.
@littlerollingbean
@littlerollingbean 7 жыл бұрын
Tale Otter but what if he wanted to be the way he was? Of course one should suggest being healthy, always, but at the end of the day, forcing someone to be healthy is just not right, as it's their bodies, and therefore their own choice. His idea of a perfect life might be to sit in bed all day eating cookies, rather than doing hard work to be healthy. As long as people live their lives happily and out of people's ways, who are we to force "help" upon them? I am sure the wife would know him better than everyone else. What if this man had a really hard life of hard work and torment, maybe worked at a mine, and just wanted to live his last few years as a relaxed, retired fat man? Would it be right to force him to do even more hard work just because it would be your personal choice? But at the same time, he could have been a slob all his life, and he wants to live long, but is too lazy to do anything about it? Perhaps in that case the wife could go on walks with him every day and cook him healthier meals. My point is, helping him by giving the cookies or helping him by forcing him to exercise may both equally be a good and bad idea, depending on the circumstances. It's fine to suggest what you feel is better, but take your own advice with a pinch of salt, because you may not know them as well as you think, and therefore your advice could be harmful if you kept pushing it. Let them help themselves, let them ignore your advice, go about your own life, and if they regret their decisions, it's not your fault, or business. We are not perfect, we cannot fix everything we get involved in, and that's OK.
@taleotter
@taleotter 7 жыл бұрын
Oh of course. It's all up to the individual whether or not they want advice or help. Help could be a good thing, and a bad thing. But sometimes everything good comes at a cost, and people need to know that. It's just life. Sometime help hurts, but most of the time it won't kill you. Only make you stronger, and more prepared for what life has to throw at you in the future. The only way to really help someone is support them in whatever they want to do. Love them even if it's a bad choice. Now you can hint at or suggest stuff, but forcing someone to do something they don't want to do is completely wrong. Forcing isn't helping. Supporting and loving is.
@littlerollingbean
@littlerollingbean 7 жыл бұрын
Tale Otter I agree. No matter what they choose we should still love and support them. Love is the best kind of help one can get, and does not lead on a path to hell.
@maniacmidget5470
@maniacmidget5470 7 жыл бұрын
HAVE A RAWRNDERFUL DAY!!!!!!!
@GoCommitOwO
@GoCommitOwO 7 жыл бұрын
I live for the rawrnderful day
@lostpony4885
@lostpony4885 7 жыл бұрын
this at least I hope we can all agree on
@Zestmistergamer
@Zestmistergamer 7 жыл бұрын
there's a old saying: you can put water out for a horse, but the may not want to drink it
@Zestmistergamer
@Zestmistergamer 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, for correcting me. but yeah that saying could be applyed to most advice or giving someone a tip on getting good at anything in general
@pacifistminigun3987
@pacifistminigun3987 4 жыл бұрын
@@drewguy7066 first, good quote. also, this comment sections kinda proves that helping other is indeed good.
@maou8944
@maou8944 7 жыл бұрын
I just tend to not get involved in anything and just play zelda...better to watch a fire from afar than to burn inside it
@swordofstrife1174
@swordofstrife1174 7 жыл бұрын
Maou Cottontail Yeah, that's basically what I do as well. I try not to think too hard about more subjective, abstract concepts and just enjoy video games..
@buckocolt6618
@buckocolt6618 7 жыл бұрын
i agree lol
@Vic_Trip
@Vic_Trip 7 жыл бұрын
Soon, that problem will come to you and, one way or another, you'll have to face it.
@somedude5819
@somedude5819 7 жыл бұрын
Meptiness not if the problem collapses in on itself.
@Vic_Trip
@Vic_Trip 7 жыл бұрын
Might happen, yeah. That will affects us all either way :/
@luciadamora7276
@luciadamora7276 7 жыл бұрын
“Even in the darkest and most cruel person, there is still a kernel of good. And within the most perfect champion, there is darkness. The question is, will one give in to the dark or the light? It's something we decide with every choice we make, every day that we exist. What might not be evil to you could be evil to someone else. Knowing this makes us powerful even without magic.” ― Morgan Rhodes, Falling Kingdoms
@pacifistminigun3987
@pacifistminigun3987 4 жыл бұрын
damn, that's a good quote
@ZealotDKD
@ZealotDKD 7 жыл бұрын
i would rather try to do what i can rather than accept the world as it is.
@AaronJLong
@AaronJLong 7 жыл бұрын
You can't help those that don't want it. I'd say yes, help others, but don't waste your time and resources on those that don't want to be helped, as no one benefits from that.
@homiespaghetti1522
@homiespaghetti1522 6 жыл бұрын
if no one gave, no one would receive.
@csucskos
@csucskos 4 жыл бұрын
I come back to this video, because I really like the final conclusion (6:00) and I try to live by it. But now I feel I'm educated enough on this topic, or rather I'm now certain on what I think about this topic so I share it. I think you can help others, do always what you think is good. And don't afraid to be wrong, everyone makes mistakes and it's an essential part of life. So always try to act by your best judgment and learn from your mistakes to be able to help better next time.
@neonbat666
@neonbat666 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with the last part, and try to help only when someone asks. But at the same time, there are instances when I need to intervene. Like when my friend was self harming. And when it comes to lending a helpful hand, I think I'd rather try to help someone, and have it go wrong, than to not help, and forever know there was something I could have done. I'd rather try to spread positivity, even if I suck at it. And I just find it so immature when people go out of their way to be a dick to others. Not saying that they _have_ to help someone, but at the same time I'm don't see a need for all of the "No way, fuck people!!!!" attitudes. In my opinion, that only makes them look like a complete asshole.
@maystevens9721
@maystevens9721 7 жыл бұрын
Neon Bat i know right i think those kinds of people are missing the point of why its a better idea to help others even if they refuse help because there not in a sound mind when it comes to choices that will hopefully improve there life instead of writhing around in there own misery that's my opinion tho.
@zenithvesperclips
@zenithvesperclips 7 жыл бұрын
Daaaang Kothorix! You went *deep* into this topic, looking at even the most difficult phenomenon to explain: morality. Props for the perception!
@DeezeeBreezee
@DeezeeBreezee 7 жыл бұрын
holy shit I'm so glad I found this channel you always have something to say, but you to don't just say it, you explain it to its full extent and everything is just so well said and sksjsjwjkw beautiful.
@gingergrant1057
@gingergrant1057 7 жыл бұрын
>Should we help others? >Fuckthatshit.jpg
@dilloncookson9641
@dilloncookson9641 7 жыл бұрын
Ginger Grant I'd rather bombard them with pineapples.
@boomerlizard3184
@boomerlizard3184 6 жыл бұрын
I typically just try to help whenever I can. Helping other people makes me feel good about myself and I typically leave it at that. Great video! It’s given me a lot to think about! :D
@aculeatus943
@aculeatus943 6 жыл бұрын
I've come to realize that if you rather take care and think of yourself more than others you're deemed selfish and narcissistic, I rather be called that than a pushover or rug for people to step on.
@SuperMarioBros149
@SuperMarioBros149 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always Kothorix! I feel exactly the same as you. I'm always with these thoughts in my head but I just can't put it in words. However, seeing your video makes me feel so comfortable! Please never stop making videos!
@VicariousReality7
@VicariousReality7 7 жыл бұрын
*SNACKRIFICE ME*
@RiddleOfLightning
@RiddleOfLightning 7 жыл бұрын
join the collective dreg
@AaronJLong
@AaronJLong 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@xenon7522
@xenon7522 6 жыл бұрын
There's a quest in dark souls where you can help a knight defeat the monsters in his path. However, the more you help him, the less he is able to BE the heroic knight he wants to be. Solving his problems for him takes away the very thing he needs, which is to overcome adversity on his own. Eventually he ends his own life because he feels like a failure.
@ziostrachenzia8173
@ziostrachenzia8173 7 жыл бұрын
"The justice that I have come to believe in, must be hurting others more than I can comprehend" Dragon Night - Sekai no Owari What I think is, besides our own conception of what's good and what's bad, helping others is most often the right thing to do when we are able to do it The only real question we should ask ourselves is not if we _should_ help others or not, but if they actually _need_ and _want_ our help... Because if we always do what WE think is the right thing we could be wrong. And if we are wrong, not only we would fail to help but we'll have to face the consequences too It's something I often ask myself and I usually came up with a 50/50 outcome... though for me it's difficult not to try and help others may them be my parents, my friends or anyone else It's nice to help not only because it will make you feel better but because you made someone else's day a better day. And that's especially true when you help someone you care about Ultimately YES, I think we should! It's not about taking sides in a conflict of ideas or culture. It's not about selfishness nor about wrong and right. If you're a doctor in the middle of a war and you find an injured soldier that begs for your help to save his life you WILL help him, may him be an enemy or not. If you're afraid of doing the wrong thing then you just have to ask... ask what's the matter, how can you help, wtf happened and so on. Just by doing that you're helping even if you don't know you are. It's not always easy to do so but it's worth a try. I think if we could take aside our social controversies and everyone tried to help each other the world would definitely be the place you want to live in... or at least it would be for me xD Anyways I hope you guys and girls have a *RAWRNDERFUL* day! And you too Kothorix ;)
@pacifistminigun3987
@pacifistminigun3987 4 жыл бұрын
that's what i thought while doing civil service at a rest home. even tho they were pretty autonomus, i always felt like i had to help them. but sometimes i let them help us instead, cause i felt like it probably gave them self-esteem imo
@taxidermytea5361
@taxidermytea5361 7 жыл бұрын
I've actually thought about this a lot, thank you.
@shibedude8427
@shibedude8427 6 жыл бұрын
History is written by the victors. And so is what you’re told in school.
@coded_ragon6284
@coded_ragon6284 7 жыл бұрын
I wish it was easy to say "Yes, we should help people" but we all know how love can hurt. There is a alot of psychology about the topic and almost all medical text books talk about it in some way or form. A dog looses a leg, do you shoot it to put it out of it's misery, or do you reinvent the wheel and put a prosthetic leg on it? You could put it to sleep, but even that has consequences. A three legged puppy is not a happy puppy.
@SteppingTrack
@SteppingTrack 7 жыл бұрын
Most of times peoples must help themselves. But what if they can't ? I think that's when the help is needed.
@pacifistminigun3987
@pacifistminigun3987 4 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@mikequeen123
@mikequeen123 7 жыл бұрын
i think you are pretty correct in my opinion. for all of my friends, i have always done my best to be there and keep them happy at times, but sometimes, more often than i ever thought, i have helped by just being there. i have always been around when my friends needed any kind of help and i'm one that doesn't always know how to say No, so i would always helped them out. i have helped my friends and been kind to them long enough some of them have grown a love for me. i know because a few of them have confessed it to me. and the reason why for most of them was because i was always around when they needed someone to talk to, vent to, or help out.
@BluePsychoHound
@BluePsychoHound 7 жыл бұрын
God Damn this is deep, this is why I love your videos. There always so deep and philosophical.
@LostTwinz
@LostTwinz 7 жыл бұрын
Another thought provoking video by the Big Blue scaly cutie
@smsdamiracle
@smsdamiracle 7 жыл бұрын
Daaaammmn Kothorix, back at it again with the hard hitting life questions. In all seriousness this is why I decided to stick with you because you bring those topics that not everyone would feel comfortable talking about thus starting a conversation. Keep doing you my man 👊🏽
@soatok
@soatok 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but only very carefully. If you're not capable of planning for different outcomes in multivariate systems, if you're not a good judge of character, if you're not honest with yourself, or you're not assertive enough to tell someone "No" even if you sympathize with them? It's probably not a wise idea for you to get involved. Kindness requires STRENGTH!
@luma3037
@luma3037 7 жыл бұрын
I don't operate through kindness. I operate through reciprocity. I scratch your back, you scratch mine, that way we can both be happy.
@D.KlWA-aG
@D.KlWA-aG 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Slusser ah you go the copycat way
@AlastorTheNPDemon
@AlastorTheNPDemon 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, spoken like a true Slytherin! Of course, help others who help you too.
@kobidobidog
@kobidobidog 7 жыл бұрын
A person helped a cyclist to have a place to sleep. He was on a long trip from Alaska to Argentina. He was thankful for the help.
@etherium8017
@etherium8017 7 жыл бұрын
*becomes a bamboozled dergun* i never thought of this this way
@itsmealex8959
@itsmealex8959 7 жыл бұрын
This was too philosophical for 5 in the morning
@Argonaut2468
@Argonaut2468 7 жыл бұрын
So for every action There is an equal opposite reaction?
@IndigoRyu
@IndigoRyu 7 жыл бұрын
As someone with fear of failure it's really hard for me to help people, even if I want to. I'm always afraid to do or say something wrong especially if it may upset people or hurt them. At the same time it makes me mad for not doing as much good as I possibly could do.
@Trusi888
@Trusi888 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's not the matter of helping someone for whatever the cause, it's why it's happening and understand that it's both sides of the problem you need to look at.
@smsdamiracle
@smsdamiracle 7 жыл бұрын
6:05 My thoughts exactly. That's what I've been getting towards over the last two years or so. You can WANT to help some with all your soul, but hot damn unless they're willing to let you help them it can turn to a headache for you and a looser connection (it seems/feels) between you and that one person you're trying to help
@dilloncookson9641
@dilloncookson9641 7 жыл бұрын
**reads title** >Fuckthat. jpeg
@jgunner280
@jgunner280 7 жыл бұрын
I really relate with that conclusion, though not so much for the same reason or backstory. I think I was just always that sort of quiet kid, and I've just naturally found myself sticking to that ground, saying "Well, if I don't do anything, I can't hurt, regret, or screw up anything." Plenty of times I've watched other people step in, and help in a way I didn't even consider, and it looked to be for the better... whereas I'd be slower, confused, or do something just less effective. Of course there are exceptions, and there should be. Sometimes you don't need to be called upon to know what to do, and sometimes just doing naturally respectful things like cleaning up after yourself, or having a kind conversation, is all the "help" your environment needs and it goes a long ways. ...oh and helping for selfish reasons, as long as there's not a negative consequence for those reasons, is always awesome. That's essentially the entire deal with say... sponsors. They throw money at things people love for "LOOK AT ME!" attention. It's the very thing that makes this site possible in a lot of ways, as well as countless other forms of entertainment, charity work, etc. If you make the world a better place, just so you can live in it a little more cozy, the end result is you still made it a better place. Selfishness is not inherently evil, despite the popular portrayal. It can easily turn to "evil" or some darker outcome, but can just as well be manipulated as a force of good. If a guy is stealing food for himself, fine we can talk about that being a terrible selfishness. If somebody is giving out free food, with the hopes that you will spread the word about how great of a cook they are, that's fine in my book.
@silverwolf9985
@silverwolf9985 7 жыл бұрын
this video really gets you thinking about things deeply. so, I figured it's time to leave sincere and honest open thoughts on this, since it tickled a knowledge bone. they are of course, my views only, so whether they click with you or not is up to you. helping others does indeed come in many gray zones, but nothing in life is risk-free. you have to do what you can to make sure the right thing (in your eyes) is done, but also thinking for yourself, together in a balance. even if what you do is right, but it comes at a price...that's what you risk. it's a massive puzzle, yes. but just do overall what you can without worrying about it too much, although be aware of the risks and the consequences. every action has a consequence. good OR bad. take the risks, but also do not be afraid to help. never hurts to help. within reason. it might help to ask yourself "what would help me and others AROUND me, together?" it might help narrow your options down, and help make you make better and more well-informed decisions. be brave but thoughtful in this roadblock. here are my thoughts on the comments that were left in the video. about the story where the people who left you all because you stood up to them, that proves mostly that they are not willing to be in your life, they were acting weak-willed and weren't willing to take constructive criticism. that was a blessing in disguise, and it shows a lot more about them than about you. you could have been in very toxic "friendships" as a result. let that all sink in. if they are going to be that insecure about help by the loss of friendship, then they should not be your friend nor anyone else's friends to begin with, unless they get their shit together. do not be ashamed of trying to help them like how you did. it was their fault for getting so upset, and it was their fault for walking out on the friendship all because they got their proverbial panties in a bunch. they needed to work on themselves first before they even DARED go into a friendship. it's their fault for not realizing this sooner; not yours or anyone else's. you did what you could, and be proud of that, always. don't fret about that. now, to look on the other side of the spectrum, how you worded it might be a different story. if you worded it in a way that was really upsetting and rude universally, then we can understand their upset. but if they did this because of a thin skin, then they do not deserve to be in your life, and you dodged many bullets and you can thank the fates or gods or whichever you believe in for that, highly. the people who got onto that guy's case for saving a baby and a mother in the car all because it "interfered with allah"...it shows a lot of people can be too controlled by their own beliefs or TOO MUCH of the right thing. yes, you should do what you perceive to be the right thing, but you might not want to allow it to go too far to where it twists your mind into believing that something normal as saving the life of those two is evil in someone else's eyes, or anything else. I believe a balance between thinking for yourself and doing the right thing might be highly essential. you might want to ask yourself "what would help without being too less of a negative consequence on others?" of course, the opposite might happen, and might have to be a risk taken, like having a high bad consequence on others. you never know, but if it's the only way to go, then go through with it. just be ready to endure what comes next, as a result. still, walk away with pride in yourself, but also listen to what the others say. you don't have to take in what they say if you don't want, but just let their words touch your ears. not go in them. what you choose to do and how you choose to take the risks, and how you choose to endure the slings and fires afterwards is up to you. About what rho said about leaving your advice in the most unoffensive packaging...and how it will make them more lenient and all that...? unfortunately, there's no guarantee anything's unoffensive by some, so not all are going to take it unoffensively, no matter how you try to sugarcoat it. sometimes, you might have to be gentle, but also a papa bear the next. take risks with both sides, or be both. be proud of the choice in your own way, and take the risks. if they get upset, it's on them, if you do it to the best of your ability. sometimes, you just simply can't care about how others think, now and then. you tried your best, walk away happy. if they're gonna be ungrateful, so what? it's on them. now, mind you, caring about what others think is good, but don't care about what they think too much to make you question your self-worth. sometimes, you have to be gentle with your words, but also rough the next, overall. what you risk and how you choose to take them is up to you. just be aware of them, and follow through with what you feel is the ultimately and well-thought out right choice to the end. don't get frozen in a "stalemate terror of choosing what to do", you could say. (I've had that before.) overall, my near-final words are these. take risks on doing the right thing, or your perceived notion of it, but be aware and ready for any consequences that happen, no matter what they are. if you truly believe it's the right thing, follow through it to the end, but not without questioning it firsthand. once you're sure it's the right thing in your eyes, go for it! do it! let no one stop you. don't go too FAR into doing the right thing. think for yourself in a balance, as much as helping. care about yourself as much as others around you. also, have whatever attitude you want when it comes to helping others, if you feel it's necessary. nice or rough. tough love, or nice love. now, yes. sometimes, you have to give advice only when it's asked, but sometimes, you have to risk the opposite. you can't play it safe all the time. also, to add in something that may pose a respectful challenge to one of your viewpoints, Kothorix...though how you take it is up to you, and it may not be a challenge to you at all. it's just to add to your knowledge. it's minor, but I thought it'd be interesting to bring it up. in any case, when you said that "when you reach 25 years of age, you can't change", well, I'd have to say that I agree with at least half of that. at least half the world may be like that, but the other half may be a different story. it's true that some people may potentially not change anymore, reaching 25, but to me, I think it all depends on the mindset and not the age, and how much they are OPEN to change. some people are very spontaneous to change, some are more stubborn to change, and some, they don't want to change at all, whether you're under 25, at 25, or above 25. some people can change themselves at different ages than some, and are slower or faster at changing either at beginning of their life and at the end. some people change their minds when they are on the verge of dying. I've changed my mind a lot of times when I was 25, and then going on over, I think. so, I think it really depends more on the mindset, how set in they are at that mindset, and how open they are to change, rather than how physically old they are playing a part in it. the brain still goes on even if your body ages. now, with age comes great wisdom, so that may moot some parts of my points a little here and there, but we can't say it's a guarantee for everyone as some may never change. like I said, it all depends on who the individual is, what their mindset is, and how dead-set they are in that mindset or how spontaneous they are to change in general. that's all I wanted to say on that. as my final words, let these videos give you more insight, to help further the points. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eauuiYGnd92DqMU (trust, but expect the unexpected) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPLYoWFe92FibM (risk of love) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYfbhqKGjZlogJI (a man's universe) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5yVi3WAjrKUrrM (if water is still clean, who are we to withhold the same, despite it possibly 50% encouraging other to do a evil actions again? it's a risk, like stated, before.) finally, this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnnSgX-epdxlnZY (from star trek TNG. this tied in with picard's alternate universe career, but it can also tie in with people. you can't build up relationships with others more by playing it safe with them all the time. take risks when it's needed, but also know when to play it safe when needed around others. at least, to me. it's 50-50 in my opinion.) in closing, don't be afraid to help, but just be aware of what happens as a result of said helping, and see through everything done to the end. watch it unfold with self-assured pride. (heck, I, myself could be risking something right now from this comment alone, and it could be really bad, for all I know. still, I'm willing to accept the consequences of this. lol.) that's all that needs to be said, and hopefully, it helped (lol. helped) you out in some way, to everyone who sees this and Kothorix. no one has to reply if they do not want to, but I was just happy to share these thoughts. if you can find it in yourselves, think about it all, and have a nice balanced life, guys. take care out there, and thanks for listening in advance.
@FletcherCat
@FletcherCat 7 жыл бұрын
This is the most depressing comment section i've ever seen. No wonder humans are *fucked.*
@snugglydurg8629
@snugglydurg8629 7 жыл бұрын
You should always try to help others. It doesn't matter if they get mad because you criticized them, they should always accept criticism (and you too). Also, you shouldn't always take sides. Just look at both sides and establish what both of them should improve.
@stormy1168
@stormy1168 7 жыл бұрын
7:42 I had that same encounter. I was walking my dog when I saw a 4 year old being carried by a man to a house out of a car. He looked really angry and she was screaming " No Mommy! Don't do this! Nooo!!" violently... blood curdling scream. I watched as the car pull off. I wasn't sure what to make of it.
@rmt3589
@rmt3589 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Just Saturday I was at a convention (comic expo, but I did search out furries numerous times and "helped" them by informing them about the Furry convention in two weeks) and during the Geek Prom, my friend was really upset. This convention was the first time I've seen her in years, and I fealt like I was only making things worse. I listened, tried to give advice, and prayed in between. And about an hour later it worked. She was able to enjoy the rest of the night and thanked me for cheering her up! Now I have a thing where I mimic the emotions around me, and if I ignored her I would have had much more fun that night than I did, and sitting there letting her sadness feed my gluttonous depression while my anxiety continuously spiked about not being able to do the right thing was not my idea of having a fun carefree time. And if I ignored her, she'd still be my friend. But... it was worth it, even though the depression stayed on me even till now, because I gave her a good time. So yes, help when you can. Even if they don't appreciate it now. Just make sure to help them for them, and not because you need it. It may take years, and you may never know about it, but it will surely help in the end. And if in doubt, rely on God to pull the situation through.
@nightmarewolf6132
@nightmarewolf6132 6 жыл бұрын
I understand the dad problems, I guess we now have something in common, thanks for the info on everything. I do believe we should help people then yes do so not on you part but for them, although don't help people to much or else... You know. People can be pushy.
@ShardWintreswolf
@ShardWintreswolf 7 жыл бұрын
Every situation is different, has different pacing, and involves people under different stressors, risks and threats. Be calm, be understanding, and do what's best within your capabilities. If you can't do anything? Find those who can. If it's a split second call, take whatcha got and don't hesitate, but do so understanding the repercussions. If you can't, you're on damage control after the fact. Even as a witness, we have responsibility beyond just watching. The easy answer to avoid stress is "no" but to me, the right answer is "yes, but..."
@Beardedlizzy
@Beardedlizzy 7 жыл бұрын
Like always Koth, you're absolutely right.
@mrmcmac3730
@mrmcmac3730 7 жыл бұрын
Well I'm here for every vid
@sinoxx6674
@sinoxx6674 7 жыл бұрын
solar Titan 21 that's some dedication..... even the ones where he says that he's gonna stream on Twitch?
@mrmcmac3730
@mrmcmac3730 7 жыл бұрын
Sinox _ yes ALL OF THEM
@sinoxx6674
@sinoxx6674 7 жыл бұрын
solar Titan 21 claps*
@warmtetrapod
@warmtetrapod 7 жыл бұрын
Same
@duncanfox9847
@duncanfox9847 7 жыл бұрын
You`ve earned a subscriber, Kothorix! Honestly I feel like you should be wearing glasses and a scarf, casually sipping on a cup of tea while you do your videos. This is the kind of stuff I like: Intellectual debate on topics by a big blue dragon : D
@sarapierce8114
@sarapierce8114 7 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, one of my gaming friends was having a lot of problems, leading him to become depressed, aggressive and verbally abusive to everyone we played with, including me. It never really bothered me, because I knew he didn't really mean any of it - I just saw it as part of who he was. My brother really didn't like it though. After several months, it reached the point where my brother refused to play any games with this friend. In the end, my brother confronted him - told him that he had to either change his attitude, or that they would basically never talk again. Turns out, this was the best possible thing. Our friend asked around, asking everyone he knew to tell him honestly what they thought of his attitude, and when most of them agreed with my brother (at least to some extent), he started working really hard to change. That was a few years ago. He's still not what I'd call a 'positive' person, but he's come a LONG way from where he was, not only making everyone else happier to be around him, but he's a lot happier too. When all this started, he was about 30. I guess that what I'm saying with all this, is that I believe you can change adults so long as they are willing to let you change them. Doing what you can to help people when they ask is generally a good thing (though sometimes the best way to help them is to refuse to do what they actually ask). But other times, people who don't ask for help can still benefit a great deal from it, assuming they get the right help and are willing to accept it. The difficulty is in judging who you should help and how, but it is exactly that - a judgment. The better you know someone, the better you can predict the best approach.
@AmicusAdastra
@AmicusAdastra 3 жыл бұрын
the thing is it's not his fault if he got problems and became depressed, at least he needed a terapist, peoples should understand that and that's the problem that no one want to understand
@Lycon721995
@Lycon721995 7 жыл бұрын
I help people, to help people... i don't have some i feel good thats why reason or it will make me look good... I'll help someone because i know what it's like to be in a shitty position and i don't want others to face the hell of their actions like how i have. It takes experience to know how to truly help someone but it can be done. Mostly small things, help someone struggling to load something in their car, return dropped cash, be kind to those who are rarely shown kindness you know there are a lot of ways, just always remember don't do it for you do it for them.
@nyx1548
@nyx1548 7 жыл бұрын
I have been told by people I gone to school and work with that I am too Naive or Gullable cause of my kindness and willingness to help when asked. I like the path of least resistance, but it doesnt mean I know when to spot someone trying to con or manipulate me.
@WolfBerserker13
@WolfBerserker13 7 жыл бұрын
It's too broad a question to answer "should we help others" with a simple yes or no. You're right in splitting this into helping altruistically and helping selfishly. Actively or passively helping are just methods of accomplishing the overarching goal and really just depend on the situation and what it is you as the helper really want out of the situation While neither is a guarantee of a good outcome as we are as flawed as the people we intend to help, it is important in building ourselves. When it comes down to it, neither helping altruistically or selfishly are inherently bad or good in terms of outcome. It just builds our own personalities up in different ways. If you intend to improve your sympathy, altruistic help will most likely improve that the quickest but relies on you being in a position of experience and ability to do anything. Selfish help has the best chance of improving your own experience and abilities, but still needs some amount of sympathy to do anything worthwhile (for you or the person you're trying to help) I guess really, it's coming down to whether perfected altruism or selfishness are that different when in a society that generally rewards "good" behavior. The better you are at pursuing either, the better you'll perform with your own social circle. That of course is based on my own bias of believing human loyalty is the most valuable currency to pursue. And if you take that doubt further, picking the wrong value with either altruism or selfishness will cause trouble. I don't believe this comes down to raw intellect. A quicker mind will most likely operate better, but building up the talent of learning how to think well might just be the deciding factor in the whole helping people or not. Assuming that's true, either help others to help yourself or for its own sake. You'll need to build both abilities anyway. So maybe do whatever and try to do it well? I dunno, I may have gone completely off track or accidentally just restated what you've said, or slipped into one of my own internal arguments. Hopefully all this nonsense is worth something to someone out there
@richterdelgan123
@richterdelgan123 7 жыл бұрын
I am too proud to ask, but when i ask help, is very rare when some one of my friends tell a no, and if they said no,is more a circumstantial reason, they will help me eventualy. For me is "be good, dont harm others without reason" and prove justice and reasoning, defeat and forgive your enemy. Is more in a critical situation know your capabilities and countermeasures.
@StarlasAiko
@StarlasAiko 7 жыл бұрын
I believe, the best way to help somebody is by letting them grow stronger by dealing with their issues themself. Anything else would be keeping the weak and dependent on others. Further, I don't help strangers, only people with whom I feel a strong kinship, and even then only if it benefits me as well.
@trenzinhodaalegria8012
@trenzinhodaalegria8012 7 жыл бұрын
I follow what Homer once said: "I hope you learned your lesson Lisa, Never help anyone..."
@psychicplebalien
@psychicplebalien 7 жыл бұрын
"They are how they are and you need to learn to accept it." Well said. In the past I've started some drama being a more devout Christian, I created a Facebook group that claims to "STOP ALL EVIL!!" being down with horoscopes and similar things. Now, I look back on that and remember the embarrassment I got from plenty of my real life friends, and realized that they didn't feel the same way that I did at the time. Now, I've just kind of gone with the flow, even if I don't accept everything. I want to help people, but not sure if they need help, or I'm not sure if I'll be enough of a person to help them, maybe there are some things that I can't do, and that's ok. I've tried getting my boyfriend to believe in Christianity a long time ago, because I felt like I was scared of death after my Dad died a year ago. I was trying to let him know that "Jesus loves you very much..." and he took it in a different light, as if I was personally attacking him. Some people take advise too harshly at times. I still accept him as my boyfriend, and still love him, even if in the Bible it may say that a non-believer can't lie with a believer, or something like that. But if that was the case, then Christians would have no friends but their own believers. I think it is important to take a look outside of your own beliefs and look into the eyes of another for once. I feel that this may either be my sub-conscious, my "Holy Spirit" or God inside of me saying "It's your choice." Meaning, it is your choice if you want to help that person or not, bad things will happen regardless.
@MirceaKitsune
@MirceaKitsune 6 жыл бұрын
Why... Can't there be... More beings like you in the world!
@YoahCat
@YoahCat 7 жыл бұрын
I felt compelled to help someone out of impulse without concerning myself with the conscious idea of being rewarded or to feel good. A affrican canadian was looking for a laptop at a reasonable price. To no avail he couldn't find one within the constraints of his budget. I talked to him asking if his school he was attending supported Google, he said yes. Then I explained to him that there was chrombooks for sale and guided him to them. He responded very positively and I found out that he was very devoted to God and he did a prayer and a blessing upon me of somekind and I didn't even ask for one. I wasn't offended or anything, it was just unusual because I did something as natural as breathing and got praised for it. I was a little confused on why that occured.
@wagz781
@wagz781 7 жыл бұрын
I went from a kid tugging on their mother’s coat tails to ask for a quarter so I could put it in the salvation army bucket every christmas to a jaded rabbit that’s too anxious to go outside most days BECAUSE I did what I thought was helping the people around me and suffered for it time and time again. That being said, I also met the love of my love while in that state so my best advice on the issue is that if you want to help people, expect for the unforeseen results to break you as a human being. That being said. Good karma’s not such a bad thing sometimes
@InevitableTruth247
@InevitableTruth247 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome to life, the missing reasons behind why the villain wants do villainy things in books and movies, and the reason why we hate things based off the things others say around us
@yaboifab2
@yaboifab2 7 жыл бұрын
You help them once , they expect you to help them every time *NO*
@tonylouis4907
@tonylouis4907 7 жыл бұрын
About the lasts points that said "...Help them with what they want to do, not with what you think is good for them. Help them to better express themselves instead of to be more like you." I disagree. It can become destructive in long-term (or in short-term) that if there's a lot of positions, thoughts, dogmas, principles, etc. that live together. The post-modernity showed us this. Samuel Huntington talked about this in The Clash of Civilizations. No matter how much we want that an humanist live with a misanthropist under the same sky, it can't happen, they're gonna crash. Im just saying the truth of the world of politics: an idea is imposed on another. And about "letting the people to express themselves" there are two documentaries called ["The Century Of The Self"] and ["Hypernormalisation"] that I highly recommend, those were made by Adam Curtis and talks about the power and the power relationships too.
@yourlocalxeno508
@yourlocalxeno508 7 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that if you buy a BXV a beer you will have good luck for the next 48 hours
@LadyLeviathan
@LadyLeviathan 7 жыл бұрын
No matter what time you read this I hope you're having a good one.
@joonastalvinen
@joonastalvinen 7 жыл бұрын
Well i think it depends on the situation. If someone is clearly in need of help (self harm, depression, injury, getting attacked etc...) then i do think that you should try to help them as much as you can. If someone looks like they need help you can ask "Do you need any help?" Some people might be too embarassed or shy to ask for help. Also when you get to know people you usually know if they are the kind of person who apreciates help and wants to see from a different point of view or if they want to do it their own way and hates when people try to help
@All4Tanuki
@All4Tanuki 7 жыл бұрын
It's dumb to think about things on some grand scale which ultimately is beyond your prediction or control Just be kind to the ones you meet and hope they do likewise
@monoclemudkip6813
@monoclemudkip6813 7 жыл бұрын
Another deep ass video, well done koth
@AustinAzure
@AustinAzure 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the best thing you can do to help someone is simply ask, "Is there anything I can do to help?"... I ask people this question whenever someone comes to me with a problem. Usually people are just ranting, and come talk to me about something, because they know I'll lend them an ear, or a shoulder to cry on. In which case, they'll usually answer, "No, but thank you." Sometimes just letting someone know you care, that you're willing to lend a hand, an ear, a shoulder... leg...? whatever... Sometimes that's enough, and it'll help them get through whatever the problem is... Other times, no you can't help them, and telling them you care doesn't mean jack-shit because the problem is way bigger than that... But if you couldn't help them anyway, then at least you asked first, and now you know not to give someone even more problems... Anyway, tl;dr Ask first, then use your discretion...
@ceciliamouse6482
@ceciliamouse6482 7 жыл бұрын
I like Rho's answer the most. Being kind is the best thing you could ever be. I just don't get the "people don't change" part. Maybe I'm not old enough to understand it yet (19) but I feel that if you wanted to change then you definitely could. Maybe that's what he's getting at. You can't help people, they can only help themselves in the end.
@sledgehammerguy5858
@sledgehammerguy5858 7 жыл бұрын
As hipster-ish as I sound I see helping others from a cynical and usually objectivist approach, even though I don't see myself as an objectivist. If you don't know what objectivism is, well the idea related to helping others is that it is morally wrong to help others if you are harmed in the process basically sacrifice. I can definitely relate to this idea, why should I harm myself in any way just to help another person? Helping others isn't bad it's very good in fact and can make the world a better place, however I am opposed to the idea that I "have" to give up something to help someone else.
@TacticalOkuu
@TacticalOkuu 6 жыл бұрын
Helping and trusting people has caused me too much suffering. People are too ungrateful and selfish these days to bother helping in any form. Humans as a whole are beyond saving anyways.
@Phoenix.Sparkles
@Phoenix.Sparkles 7 жыл бұрын
It is better to observe first and think through the situation, else you might make it worse.
@littlerollingbean
@littlerollingbean 7 жыл бұрын
I say we should try our best not to use our personal opinions as means of "helping" others. For example, an obese person may be happy with their lives and bodies despite being obese, would it be right to constantly try to motivate them to be healthier even though it made them less happy, just because you personally would rather have a long and healthy life than a short and unhealthy one? We should only really help people if they ask for it, or if they obviously need it to get out of their current situation. In reference to the obese one, only suggest for them to loose weight if they constantly complain about sore feet, because the answer to that would be to loose weight to make their bodies not as heavy on their feet. At the same time, we should advise multiple options, such as different ways of loosing weight, and they may consider trying one or two if they feel like it. I saw a post on reddit that went something like "5 + 5 = 10. So does 6 + 4, and 1 + 9. There are multiple ways to get your answer". I see too many people use their own personal opinions as "helpful advise". Instead of saying "ew you are fat and ugly loose some weight!", we should say something like (when asked or implied for help) "perhaps you should try cutting your food portions by half? Or maybe try going cold turkey on cakes and maybe eventually you will stop craving them?". Too many times we think we are helping others by forcibly moulding them into a splitting image of ourselves, which does more harm than good. Of course this can be hard, but we must all remember that our advise is only amateur, or what personally works for us only. Like how you would take certain advice with a grain of salt, take your own with one too when suggesting it to others. If we really want to help others, there is no better way than giving food directly to the poor, and supporting local businesses. Actions speak louder than words, and once in a while we should stop sitting on our couches nagging people on how to help themselves and actually do something for them.
@sinoxx6674
@sinoxx6674 7 жыл бұрын
Yay. Another upload. I love your videos
@desireewolf9458
@desireewolf9458 7 жыл бұрын
My opinion, there is no good or evil. There is only cause and effect. Everyone will have a different standing on what's good or evil, even if it's little things. Therefore, there is no answer. Good and evil is a human made concept, although some animals can genuinely care for others in the same way we do, they don't ponder on an objective good or evil. They only react when they or someone they care for is threatened. Not for the sake of goodness, but simply because they do not wish to feel hurt or to loose someone. A dog protecting there owner/friend is a good example, dogs don't speak of good or evil or encourage either side. They do what they think will have the most pleasing consequences.
@cadentmoon2598
@cadentmoon2598 7 жыл бұрын
Depends, most of people know when to help others, like when the life of someone is on danger, pain, etc. and you know how to help. Obviously is not convenient helping if is not worth the cost (physically, monetary), because you might get on a similar position or a rough spot. It's ok to analice the situations first. For me helping is natural, I like doing that (donating money or help to save an animal or a person) but not if I get hurt in the process. In case of a fight I like the idea to use diplomacy...but I doubt that I can even reach attention the way I would want to (you know, not getting kicked).
@madscientistshusta
@madscientistshusta 7 жыл бұрын
When a fury takes his first pych 101 class and reads an aryn rand book. Lol
@KaeserLooty
@KaeserLooty 7 жыл бұрын
fuck yeah if it's possible, this is the way to improve humanity
@WeeeWeeeification
@WeeeWeeeification 7 жыл бұрын
Helping people isn't always good but there are plenty of situations where it is. The maen issue that I've had is that a lot of my friends are easily depressed and I always tried to help them, unfortunately in doing so I started to become more stressed and that lead me to then become depressed. I know someone who has been trying to help me with it but I told him it would be better if he didn't try to help, I wasn't going to drag them into it. There is not a single person in the world that thinks their actions are unjust, everyone does what they think is right. Terrorists kill because they have a goal that they think will make the world a better place, serial killers often have a god complex and think of killing the same as farming animals and dictators are often unaware of how they're affecting their people and if they are it's again a god complex. Everything can be justified in sime way and as a result there is always some whi thinks it's the right thing to do no matter how horrific.
@chilidog2469
@chilidog2469 7 жыл бұрын
1:26 My parents (Wanted) to do that with me as a kid, but they got jobs where they can't be there to help me
@IvanDmitriev1
@IvanDmitriev1 7 жыл бұрын
Apples to oranges, Kothorix.
@Thunderson-nr2eg
@Thunderson-nr2eg 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Kothorix, I know you think Star Wars is dumb and I can agree that there are parts of the franchise that don’t make sense; however, there is a character from the game ‘knights of the old republic’ that follows a very interesting philosophy about the same dilemma discussed in your video. Thank you
@Phobiabat
@Phobiabat 7 жыл бұрын
My room mates brother has a social mental condition. I have come across many people who fight their conditions daily to live their lives to the fullest. This brother however just does not to fight it. He sits in our living room all day everyday watching t.v. It bothers me so much but not everything is visible to the daily problems he may be having. I help him out by asking him to do things around the house to just give him some stimulation, I talk to him when I can and he has been able to open up to me over the years. I find when helping people in any form if you can it will always be a risk no matter what. If someone asks for advice and it goes bad then you are not really at fault as advice is just that. You don't have to take it. It's just a helping hand there if you wish to accept it. For a helping example, one day I was working and this lady in the car park was struggling to move by her car, there were a few people who just moved on and didn't really look at her. I went over to see if she was ok as she was having trouble breathing. Turns out the batteries in her oxygen machine went flat. If I had not come to help her and change the batteries she could have been in serious trouble or even have died. If someone is struggling to stand or carry something I will always ask if they need help.
@maystevens9721
@maystevens9721 7 жыл бұрын
Phobia your a vary good person i hope you have a wonderful life that story has moved me so much 😊😊
@ramrebletrx5720
@ramrebletrx5720 7 жыл бұрын
hi kothorix
@ArchiverUnknown
@ArchiverUnknown 7 жыл бұрын
And he's BACK at it Again with a lower view count!
@ShadeVial
@ShadeVial 7 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early I was able to think of an original comment
@bakufan0658
@bakufan0658 6 жыл бұрын
Well sometimes it's good to help but if the problem is to big just try to see what happens then if something does happen then take action
@eternalkhajiit6388
@eternalkhajiit6388 6 жыл бұрын
You really know your stuff.
@thatblueeyedwolf
@thatblueeyedwolf 7 жыл бұрын
I play devil's advocate all the time... Too much...
@pacifistminigun3987
@pacifistminigun3987 4 жыл бұрын
mood
@Delvien
@Delvien 7 жыл бұрын
I was a cop in the military so I have a much different view on this issue then some. In my situation sitting on your hands could get someone killed so it's better to act on your judgment be wrong and be embarrassed maybe even get in trouble then to not act and live the rest of your life with blood on your hands. In less then life threatening situations just do what you yourself feel is right if it turns out badly then it is what it is. Just use judgment, common sense and do your best, can't be expected to do more. Otherwise it will stay the course and end badly anyway so by helping you gave a chance for the outcome to change. I figure that is better then just letting something bad happen just so I can say "hey I wasn't involved so don't blame me." Again this is based off my personal experience and personality. ^^
@SolarpunkJackal
@SolarpunkJackal 7 жыл бұрын
The Buddha said we cannot help other people out of the quicksand when we ourselves are stuck in the quicksand. Then he went on to explain how one needs to learn and understand wisdom and 'cause and effect', heedfulness and other psychology first before attempting to help others, ideally, enlightenment. Enlightenment isn't easy though. The Buddha also said the moral way to answer or decide any question is to ask yourself "Is this action beneficial for me AND beneficial for others? Is anyone harmed as a result of this action?" But in today's age we have political fanatics and political fanatic mainstream media who trap kids in echo chambers and do NOT encourage children to seek the best arguments from opposing sides and investigate everything. To the dangerous and uninformed, everything is thus black and white, good and evil with no in-between. Simple Buddhist answer to all that: Make yourself a harmless person and do not associate with fools. Then people will come to you for refuge, and that's a good time to dispense advise.
@vedji1857
@vedji1857 7 жыл бұрын
Stupid question. Helping others gives them happiness. In my view, happiness is the most pure thing in this world. Putting a smile on others faces is the best thing you can do. What can be wrong with spreading happiness?
@taytay6255
@taytay6255 7 жыл бұрын
I'd only help those who ask for it and as long as it isn't to complicated or too much. I'll answer a question someone has about, say, how to do a certain thing in a game, like trade in TF2, but nothing like someone wanting the answers to things like can you join me in harassing this person over the internet, or animating something in Source Filmmaker and letting the person have all credit. Me: Only help someone if they ask, the help needed doesn't cause substantial harm to anyone unjustly, or if they plan nothing in return to you. But the thing I get in return won't be too high.
@ratskelll
@ratskelll 7 жыл бұрын
So long as they're not assholes and it doesn't hurt "innocent" people
@sgatthewolf2794
@sgatthewolf2794 7 жыл бұрын
I would ask both said what they want or need and try to help them both while not choosing one side and try to subjects stuff that both approve
@EazyRed
@EazyRed 7 жыл бұрын
I hate when people edit there comments
@yourlocalxeno508
@yourlocalxeno508 7 жыл бұрын
^ftw
@Zinken_
@Zinken_ 7 жыл бұрын
Connor Kiley yes please
@sgtwolf7391
@sgtwolf7391 7 жыл бұрын
Connor Kiley what if they do it because they misspelled something?
@EazyRed
@EazyRed 7 жыл бұрын
true but did you get it. i edited my own comment. lol
@arcthearcticwolf8402
@arcthearcticwolf8402 6 жыл бұрын
I saw that.
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