Should We Stone Our Children - 119 Ministries

[@NancyZackery]

These video teachings are amazing. This is one that I sought out because my regular pastor spoke on the adulteress woman today. It was a good teaching, and didn’t contradict this, but it also didn’t answer to the questions that I had regarding following Torah today. I’ve watched so many of your videos, thinking that eventually something won’t “fit”. But it always does. Excellent job.

[@KristenDeeter]

Praise Yay for 119 ministries!

[@Matthew22.37]

"Be united and edified in the Truth and in love!; not in what is false." Correct in the spirit of goodness and love! "All of Father YHWH's Law still applies." He never changes and neither does His Word. We must remember to "apply His Laws Biblically." (keeping all things in the proper context...Context is applicable. No country/government on earth today could "employ the true Biblical structure & process necessary to carry out Biblical Commandments of capital punishment... If anyone actually practiced the Biblical capital punishment Commandments today, they would actually be breaking the Commandments of YHWH, not following them." Thank you brothers for this thoughtful and in-depth explanation.

[@Xoe777]

I heard a teaching that also pointed out that the Pharisee’s and Scribes were breaking Torah as they only dragged the woman before Yeshua and not the man also that she was caught in the act with. As the Torah demanded both involved in the act to be put to death .

[@EImpact-zt9rg]

Yup that's true too Leviticus 20

[@INSTACRUISING]

WHAT AN AMAZING TEACHING AND EXPLANATION!! BE BLESSED AND THANK YOU.

[@wentzelcoetzer2351]

Thank you for the informative teaching - great work. Much appreciated!!

[@AC19938]

Shalom 119! Excellent teaching! Thank you for all your hard work, dedication, and love for Elohim!

[@OceanView420]

This teaching has blessed me soooo much, thank you!!!!!

[@michelebryant4644]

Excellent Teaching! This makes so much more sense. Shalom!

[@simonegraham1781]

Almighty is always righteous and just

[@roxannejohnson3998]

I would have said that the capital punishment commandments show what we as sinners deserve. How many of us have disobeyed and dishonored our parents or even cursed them. According to the law of God we rightly deserve death. But we follow the savior's example when He said I do not come to condemn the world but to save it. The woman caught in the act of adultery rightly deserved to be stoned to death. But Jesus in saying "he who has not sinned cast the first stone" shows us that none of us are worthy to sit in the seat of judgment. This is also why he says "Do not resist an evil man. If he strikes you on the cheek, turn to him the other also." When we show mercy, we emulate God's character who does not punish us as we ought. And remember that certain things were written in the law because their hearts were hard, like divorce, or owning and beating slaves. The law was evidence of how stony-hearted the children of Israel were and their sinful condition. People actually had to be told not to put a stumbling block in front of the blind. This says more about their human condition. God calls for a circumcised heart on which He can write His laws on and if we show mercy, then mercy will be shown to us.

[@michaelsurber2923]

Thank you

[@johngalt4657]

Context is everything. Including historical context.

[@markbrosius1866]

I can not love God's ways. I set my moral standards higher than that. Stonlng, slavery and genocide are wrong! Quit making excuses for this.

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

It's pretty sad that many (I mean MANY) Christians would be unable to give an accurate answer to this question (and many other questions) as many of them are not knowledgeable in scripture, other than John 3:16.

[@GFCProductionsx]

It's shame that even that verse is taken out of context... John 3:16 is for the Israelites not the entire world... The English definition of "world" has over 9 different definitions.

[@michaeloud6044]

wesley ogilvie what happened ? You delete the comment where you said I’m not very smart? Come on back and stand your ground.

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

@@michaeloud6044 I edited it, it's still there. Thanks for proving my point.

[@michaeloud6044]

wesley ogilvie man you are one evil and hate filled man aren’t you

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

@@michaeloud6044 I have nothing but love. I just don't tolerate revilers and slanderers, especially if they claim Christ.

[@j1mbobtech]

Time stamp 37:28...Another Witness... "...Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth..."

[@markgoodley2450]

11:15. ? Drinking blood and cannibalism aren't changing the Law? Really?

[@ἄθλησις119]

@@markgoodley2450 If you don’t believe Jesus is the messiah but still believe in the Hebrew Scriptures than your entire religion falls apart with a single prophecy that Jesus fulfilled and had to be fulfilled by the messiah. In Malachi it explicitly says that the messiah will enter into the second temple, which was destroyed 40 years after Jesus death. The logical conclusion from this passage is that the second temple still had to be around when the messiah came in order for this prophecy to be fulfilled. So if your waiting for some messiah that isn’t Jesus then you are out of luck because he isn’t coming. Jesus perfectly fulfills all the Old Testament prophecy’s for the messiah and again, to deny that is pure ignorance and shows you haven’t read the prophets basically at all it seems

[@Nevermind-eh]

Where do you get "second temple" from malachi 3.1 ?

[@tiffanycollins3822]

Thank you for this teaching.

[@JohnC-24]

God bless you all from 119 ministries. Thank you for challenging us and reaffirming us to the veracity of the scriptures. Your work is much appreciated. Thanks again.

[@giovannicorraliza4393]

please study revelation 14:12 "12 Here is the apatience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

[@annturi5826]

There is one very important thing I realized again today (for the umpteenth time) from all the comments; no matter how much we discuss the Scriptures (or any other subject), not one single individual's perception will be changed. Instead of reasoning with any presented material, we just "dig in our heels" and stick to what we already believe, be that right or wrong or irrelevant. Generally speaking, human heart seems to be made of stone, but human mind is made of even harder substance. Above it all though, our EGO never lets us even consider the possibility that we might be in error. Most of us know not the meaning of the word HUMILITY. There are about 1200 so called "Christian" denominations in North America, and each one believes that they alone know the TRUTH. Recently, I asked one "clergy" person this question: If Jesus came back this moment, which denomination would He endorse? "Good question", he said... I think I know the answer each one of us would readily offer; THE ONE I ENDORSE.

[@redstamp4185]

Not so. Many are waking up and studying Torah and praying for God to teach them His ways. By the Spirit they realize something is not right and He gives them a hunger for Truth.

[@annturi5826]

True, @@redstamp4185, but there is still a big difference between studying and understanding. I know numerous people who have been studying Bible scriptures for decades, yet have no understanding of the messages within the scriptures. These people live in their own "religious La-La Land", based mostly on their WISHFUL THINKING. Take, for example, the "prosperity gospels" preached in churches. Need I say more? Most kind regards, and best wishes for your personal and professional prosperity

[@annturi5826]

Hello What can I say @Song bird, there are probably as many different interpretations of Bible stories as there are human beings; and we like to "cherry pick' passages and utterances that please our personal wishful thinking, rather then to look more deeply into the "marrow" of the matter. Interestingly enough, I have not yet heard (or read) of anyone trying to explain the story about the "snake of Eden" (in Genesis) for example, even though none of us has ever encountered a TALKING SNAKE. Even if we take that story "symbolically" or "metaphorically" , it still makes no sense for many a good reason. But if, for example, one understands that the "snake of Eden" is an RNA (1 "snake"), which is a DNA (2 "snakes intertwining) decoder, one gets a completely different understanding of the Scriptures, and their purpose. Some of us still take ALL Bible stories literally, in which case these stories make no sense whatsoever, simply because they either (on the surface) tell infantile "bed stories" or they contradict themselves. Studying the BIBLE from a proper perspective is crucial, otherwise, we cannot fully understand what GOD the CREATOR means to communicate to us. The most damaging result of IMPROPER UNDERSTANDING is BLAME, which leads to all kinds of intolerance and animosity among people. Another unbelievable misinterpretation is "speaking in tongues" mention in the New Testament, which somehow was understood to mean rolling on the floor and uttering gibberish, thus turning a piece of useful information into a strictly pagan ritual. Also, no-one so far is even attempting to explain WHY Jesus said that He was sent ONLY to the "lost sheep of Israel" (Mathew 15:24), and why He told his disciples NOT to go to the Gentiles, which is absolutely essential for understanding of all the rest of the Bible messages. Some are afraid to discuss this subject, because they think "racially", which cannot be farther from the truth. Anyway, forgive my passion please; sometimes I become a real motor-mouth when talking about Bible Scriptures, their meaning, applications and implications. To me personally, NOTHING in this life, apart from understanding fully the word of GOD, is worth living for or dying for. Best regards, and best wishes.

[@lizabellos4859]

@@redstamp4185 I was so willing to study and I suppose I picked wrong I picked mr. Rood , and then realized he was charging $99 to observe the the pass over , or Jesus sacrifice for mankind . I was a little disgruntled in my reply to their ad . I felt hurt and left outside of the building in the rain wanting to exercise my faith in the ransom sacrifice of Yeshua . But in order to watch and be a part of something so amazing you have to pay $99 . I don't know how many people out there right now that have $99 ...! I for one believe that the Passover should be free ... I consider mr. Rood a money changer in Yehovah's house , where Yeshua overturned all the money changers tables ... So I am proactively looking for the right group ... If anybody has any ideas I am certainly interested ....! Yehovah blesses Thank you

[@annturi5826]

NO KIDDING @Lies Exposed! The first thing our local pastor did, after the COVID 19 gathering restrictions were put into practice, was to make sure that everyone knows how to keep on "GIVING GENEROUSLY" online. No concern about people being laid off, losing their income and NEEDING HELP THEMSELVES. FINE EXAMPLE OF "CHURCHIANITY BUSINESS" as you call it... Kind regards

[@equalityandjusticeforall3190]

"While I consider myself a Christian, I struggle to reconcile the Law of Moses with my understanding of God's nature. Some aspects of this law seem to contradict fundamental human values. For example, deeming individuals with disabilities or physical impairments as unclean, or prescribing harsh punishments for natural bodily functions like menstruation, appears to go against the very essence of human creation. It raises the question: why would a benevolent God create us with certain characteristics and then condemn us for them?"

[@119Ministries]

Shalom, Thanks for reaching out. It is important to remember that the Father would never punish us for natural bodily functions that he created our bodies to do. How would that be just? What does occur is that these natural bodily functions, such as a woman's cycle or having intercourse, cause us to be unclean. This is not a sin, nor is it punishable. It just means that we aren't able to go to the temple when we are unclean. So the Father gave us a way to become clean again, usually by bathing, and that evening we are clean. (Leviticus 15). As for those individuals with disabilities, we believe that this teaching will help to clarify this. 119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/excluded-from-the-assembly-deuteronomy-231-8/ We hope this helps. Blessings to you and yours

[@Chris_A_UK]

@119Ministries good stuff! thanks

[@johngalt4657]

So then, weren't those early systems of kings and elders a type or shadow of future government systems? Once someone is stoned the grace and opportunities for them to repent is completely ended.

[@zemog1990]

I love you

[@ajarrett2940]

I've watched several of your videos and I'm a little confused. If Jesus was a keeper of the law and didn't change any of the OT laws, then why didn't he allow the woman caught in adultery to be stoned as the law commanded? Doesn't that mean that Jesus broke the law? Thank you 119 ministries in advance for answering my question.

[@119Ministries]

Shalom Born Again, Did you watch this video? The answer to your question is in this teaching. After you watch it, let us know if you still have questions. The best way to reach us with your questions is through our contact us page on our website. You can find it here: www.119ministries.com/about-us/contact-us/ Blessings and Shalom

[@genesisexodus1154]

Changed you name... Jesus fulfilled the commandment. The others had no right to stone.

[@KnPoole]

@@genesisexodus1154 I respectfully disagree. The Torah commands that both parties (man & woman) be stoned. The accusers only brought the woman to be stoned. They attempted trick him into stoning only the woman when the law says both shall be stoned. This is why John 8:6 says “this they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him” He instead, extends grace and forgiveness. However, He tells her go and sin no more/ do NOT continue to break the law.

[@heldonraysaberola1925]

Exodus 23:1-3 Justice for All 23 “You shall not circulate a false report. Do not put your hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness. 2 You shall not follow a crowd to do evil; nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after many to pervert justice. 3 You shall not show partiality to a poor man in his dispute. (something wrong or clerical on a illustration) instead, it was exodus 1:1-3 please clarify thank you....

[@pierreferguson5257]

Matthew 5:17-20

[@H121-g9b]

I simply understood that verse in Deuteronomy as the believers gather together to cast out demons from the disobedient child in Jesus Christ’s name (the stone). We should be led by The Spirit.

[@briannewman9285]

Where in the Bible does it say anything more about the process the elders are to use other than to be gatheed at the city gates?

[@gojohnnygo3209]

Atheist asked the right question, - 119 Ministries just not willing to rightly dividing the word of truth. Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. Jn 18:36

[@coopsentrepreneurialjourney]

Why is this debate even 50 min long??😂

[@aimebreeden8113]

From what I understand the story of the woman caught in adultery isn't actually in the original scripture. So though I love the story etc it is a tough one to use for legitimate backing.

[@mikegyver3193]

Prior to the resurrection there was a very thin line for salvation. Though even throughout the Old Testament Jesus was the Saviour that had taken place yet. After resurrection the path widen a little bit. The sacrifice has been done and the rule of death no longer pertains to the children of God. This is why did you not like the phrase son of God. 🤓😇

[@biblediet5406]

Some of the videos here are very different from church sermons. Forgive me for asking. I'm just curious, is this a Christian ministry or something else?

[@119Ministries]

Shalom Bible Diet, We believe that the whole Word is true and applicable today. Here is a link to our faith statement www.119ministries.com/about-us/faith-statement/

[@hashandealwis2492]

You are right... 119 as per their faith statement are non-trinitarian. Best to avoid.

[@truman6794]

@@hashandealwis2492 Trinity? God is not Skitzo mate You wanna avoid, get out of those sin filled Sunday worshipping grovel's for devil's.

[@pedroheide3057]

I feel pretty scriptural illiterate hearing this. My circles that I'm in would ostracize me for claiming this truth. I'm confused. I dont know what to do.

[@redstamp4185]

Maybe copy the 11 things that the Law is. Meditate on those scriptures, pray about them, and find a group of like minded believers to fellowship with. It might be Messianic, Torah Observant, 7th Day Adventist, Hebrew Roots, etc churches. Watch Parable of the Vineyard or Christian Truthers on KZbin.

[@michaeloud6044]

Go watch videos from Jacob Prasch and the other teachers from Moriel ministries. Listening to 119 will put you back under law and turn you into a confused person. God Bless

[@H121-g9b]

Michael Oud Jacob Prasch is a wolf in sheep clothing. Stop listening to him. If you want please go to zev porat a messianic rabbi

[@JP11]

@Eyesareseeable Earsarehearable *According to the bible* - the law of Moses is not made for a righteous person. Under the NEW and better covenant, we are made righteous in Christ only, by faith. According to the bible - The law of Moses is made for the *lawless ones, the ungodly, the profane, the unholy, and the insubordinate.*

[@JP11]

@Eyesareseeable Earsarehearable *According to the bible* - the law of Moses is not made for a righteous person. We must be truly righteous before God Almighty to be received into His kingdom. Under the NEW and better covenant, we are made righteous in Christ - by faith. If we are in-Christ, this means we are truly righteous before God - therefore, the law of Moses profits us nothing. According to the bible - The law of Moses is made for the *lawless ones, the ungodly, the profane, the unholy, and the insubordinate.* *According to what has been written* - this is what has been fulfilled: "not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until EVERYTHING is ACCOMPLISHED ” "After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were NOW ACCOMPLISHED, that the Scripture might be fulfilled” - "He said, “It is finished!" Jesus accomplished (fulfilled) this EVERYTHING when He shed His blood, beginning the NEW covenant! *According to King Jesus* - It is finished! The law of Moses was always pointing toward Jesus, our King - our great redeemer! The law of Moses was a schoolmaster, a tutor. "Christ is the end of the Law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes." (Romans 10:4) *According to the bible* - The law of Moses could not make you righteous. This can only come by faith in the LORD Jesus Christ. The works of the law are void to anyone who is in Christ. The law of Moses only provided a temporary covering till Christ. "Christ is the end of the Law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes." (Romans 10:4) The law of Moses was for the children of Israel - who worshipped God Almighty in the flesh. Under the new covenant - you can only worship God Almighty in the spirit. Abraham was never given the law of Moses, as the law of Moses came with a curse. The NEW law revealed to us is the life giving - law of Christ! The law of Christ has no curse. The law of Moses was to bring us to the fullness of God's ultimate plan - "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith" (Galations 3:24) Under the new and better covenant - "faith has come, and we are no longer under the Law of Moses - "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster" (Galations 3:25) *The apostle Paul stated that he was not under the law of Moses.* Paul claimed to under only one law - the law of Christ! Jesus commanded that we must be perfect! How is this possible? This is only possible under the life-giving new covenant through the Spirit. The law of Moses could never bring life or perfect anyone. The life-giving law of Christ brings true life, everlasting water, and pristine perfection.

[@EImpact-zt9rg]

- they didn't bring the man also caught in the act (& thus showed partiality) ♂️ Leviticus 20 - they didn't bring 2 or 3 witnesses (Deut 19) - if Jesus contradicted Moses He couldn't have been the Lord/YHWH that wrote 📜 Deuteronomy 13 & 18 and would be a false prophet

[@danielgattuzo3065]

Your understanding of our obligation to the government in the USA seems to be misguided. The people created the Constitution and the Bill of rights and the Constitution and the Bill of rights created and restricts the government. In the US the people are sovereign and not the government. Obviously, we live in a distortion in the USA of what was originally intended as one can be pulled over and fined for “speeding” when no one or their property was injured. Anything that would be a victimless crime, is not a crime at all. This includes drug prohibition, and any violation of a statute or code that is also victimless. “The government” can not be a victim because it is a fiction of the mind and not man. All that to say, a review of Romans 13 is in order for your organization in light of the reality of a Constitutional Republic with a Bill of Rights. Grace and Peace be unto you.

[@GFCProductionsx]

Unfortunately, I had to give this the 3rd thumbs down. Like I said people aren't fans of re-uploads without you at least writing it in the description... Especially, video that have Steve removed from them...

[@119Ministries]

Shalom, We are in the process of remastering all of our older teachings. When we do this, we record them in higher quality and we often add or clarify something in the teaching. Steve no longer works for 119 Ministries so remastering it with him is not an option.

[@GFCProductionsx]

@@119Ministries Shalum, 1. Again why aren't you people writing this in the description? There is nothing to hide... It's your right to remaster, but you guys are forgetting the fans that stay with you guys even when we strongly disagree. 2. Why not just make an archive playlist of your old videos? Just because Steve doesn't work with 119 it doesn't mean that his content is disposable. In any case, that last one was just my opinion. I'll be leaving if this keeps going on. Was met to leave after the Black Hebrew Israelite video but decided to stay even if we disagreed, but it looks like you guys don't want to compromise...

[@angaur410]

The word of God is never old

[@GFCProductionsx]

@Rojo Did you even read my comment?

[@119Ministries]

@@GFCProductionsx We appreciate the feedback. 1. We aren't hiding it. We typically release a remastered teaching every other week. That is something we have stated publicly, although perhaps we haven't stated it on KZbin. We keep the same teaching descriptions that we use on the website, Facebook, emails, etc. We are sorry if you do not agree with our practice. You indicate we are forgetting our fans who strongly disagree with the practice. We were not aware of this being a problem as we have not seen any other questions or complaints on it. We will review our process to determine if changes of this nature need made. We are currently reviewing several processes we have in place; this will be added to the list. 2. Steve has his teachings upon on his ministry's website. As we remaster teachings, we often make changes to the transcript, rephrase things, add or remove content, etc. Doing so is not making Steve's previous contributions to 119 Ministries disposable. We still value Steve, however, teachings need updated from time to time. There are times we correct information in an old teaching, not wishing to continue disseminating incorrect information. In order to help minimize confusion or mitigate concerns, we remove all old copies of teachings from circulation to the best of our ability. Removing the teachings is not making Steve's contributions disposable, it's simply updating older content. We are still using the transcripts he wrote, and updating them as is needed based upon feedback we receive or new understandings. Shalom

[@steveleung855]

John 8 story about the woman accused of adultery is a false story that is a recent addition to Scripture

[@christfollower5713]

I thank u for your time but pls next time focus more on the topic

[@theseedofyahudah8208]

You have know understanding of The Book Of Remembrance if you did then you know that GOD has no love for esau..Malachi 1:3 and even in your so called new testament Roman 13:9

[@Nevermind-eh]

No, and not figuratively either, like Bob Dylan.

[@maryelkins736]

No did you not get it adulteress they should have had her and the man in that way they were testing him to know if he knew the law cuz you it's not just the woman for having an adulterous it's the man's fault to

[@TimothyChapman]

It is true that both the man and the woman were to be put to death, but that doesn't nullify the fact that (a) Jesus wasn't legally able to authorize her execution, and (b) that there weren't enough witnesses to condemn her anyways. However, I do not believe that this event ever happened because it's not found in the earliest manuscripts. Also, I do not believe that "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" would have been an acceptable answer.

[@bmllz]

Let me just answer this for you without watching the video: the simple fact that you've titled the video like this suggests that your channel and all of its followers should really examine your hearts. Follow the Command of unconditional and unselfish Love which the Messiah came to teach, then murdering your children won't even be CLOSE to being a point of discussion! The Holy Spirit is being poured out in abundance right now; Humble yourselves and seek His Truth, revealed by Christ!

[@119Ministries]

Shalom, we believe that we are saved by grace through faith. Here is a link for more about our ministry and what we believe and teach: www.119ministries.com/about-us/faith-statement/

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

Proverbs 18:13, If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. Don't be a fool brother/sister. Be blessed.

[@bmllz]

@@119Ministries So then why might you stone your children? Why is this even a question!? Why might you stone ANYONE!? Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.

[@bmllz]

@@wesleyogilvie8105 Thank you for your kind reply and I agree with you. I'm well aware of the teachings of this ministry, and right now only commenting on the title of the video, which seems to be insane... But I'll be sure to tune in and learn more about this subject. Shalom.

[@heather482]

Deuteronomy is man's law Moses's law its Babylonian law okay bye bye

[@MattPowellOFFICIAL]

This is utter propaganda