Should You Avoid The 737 MAX?!🫣

[@fssim6825]

I generally prefer the 737ng over the MAX anyway

[@piyushkanthak1087]

Agree, NG was one of the best variant

[@Adrian_152]

​@@piyushkanthak1087 Maybe even the best version of the 737

[@hoangminhx007]

I swear older 737 still safer than new variant today...😅

[@TheRealAmProFly]

The 737 isn’t that bad,sure its had its fair share of mishaps but that’s normal

[@joen4088]

Why?? The ng is noisy and everything rattles. Max is at least quieter. Still both a POS when compared to solid and very quiet A320

[@Ryan-hi8th]

At this point the MAX fleet has flown 20 million+ times which means even had they not made any fixes, you'd still be just as likely to die from a plane falling out of the sky and hitting you on the ground (10,000,000:1 odds) as you would flying in a MAX. The anxiety may have been justified but now it feels played out and overblown.

[@Ormy-]

You have NO idea how much I needed to read this.

[@phoenix211245]

Meh, if Air Koryo can keep their obsolete Soviet junk flying, and their main liner, the tu154, was banned from use by such countries as Russia and Iran, even with the latest problems Boeing can be considered as reasonably safe.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Just had another incident with a max just yesterday. Seems to be just the max I keep hearing about.

[@Ormy-]

@HatsuneM1ku01 I know. I take a max 8 in a few weeks 😭

[@gsm3982]

​@@HatsuneM1ku01 what accident ?

[@randompolishguy119]

People: **thinking that the 737 max is the most dangerous commercial plane ever made** IL-76: 737 Classic: MD-11: DC-10: MD-80: Boeing 727: TU-134: DC-9: A310 (mostly caused by pilot errors and hijackers): Tu-154:

[@pwrcaelenx]

Classic Death Chambers

[@Migs_plane_ship_enthusiast]

737 classic has same causes as the a310

[@Qubus000]

The Tu-154 was not dangerous. It has a similar crash percentage to other planes of that era like the 727. And most crashes were due to pilot error.

[@isoldeandrews2361]

don't forget the 747

[@Yahgtulah]

For new airplane to have 2 fatal accident is not a good statistics

[@BrickStadiums]

"That would be JetBlue and Delta" 737 max 10: I have other plans ☠️

[@kinggamer_15]

☠️

[@mickeyflynn5427]

The 737 Max 8 is a decent airplane. It’s quieter than the NG, not just the engines but also the sound of air passing over the fuselage amd blowing through the ducts inside the cabin. Also, because of its advanced hvac system that humidifies the cabin air, you’ll experience less fatigue on long flights than with previous models.

[@ramyfares9099]

But still it’s got the same sky interior cabin is the as the existing 737NG, I wish Boeing would come up with redesigning the sky interior that looks pretty similar to the 777X and fit it with newer 737 MAXs

[@aycc-nbh7289]

The issue here is that last-minute equipment changes and cancellations by airlines may force people to fly on B737 MAX aircraft if there are no alternatives available.

[@disellin4871]

Then I won't be flying.

[@patrickw6628]

Thats why you avoid the airlines who operate such garbage. It shows that the airline does not give sh.. about the safty of passangers anyway. 737MAX should all go to the scrapyard.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@patrickw6628 Please read my comment again. Your flight could get cancelled and you could be forced to rebook on another airline that uses the aircraft.

[@tbloemink]

And Ryanair never shows the specific type of aircraft but if it’s a MAX the seat map will show 35 rows whereas the -800 has 33.

[@Beemur2011]

While I'm sure they're perfectly safe... I'll be avoiding it from here on out. 😌😌😌

[@coopa2002]

If they were perfectly safe there wouldn’t be a grounding

[@Chevelled]

@@coopa2002Ah yes. Like every aircraft manufacturer haven’t had an accident. Less planes are having accidents while the number of flights has gone up.

[@coopa2002]

@@Chevelled you’re negating the fact that these accidents (the plug door and the MCAS related accidents) are results of a design flaw and manufacturing errors, whereas most accidents overall are generally due to a mix of weather and pilot error.

[@giancarlom.]

@@Chevelled”every aircraft”-every aircraft that crashed are 80% pilot error. The remaining 20% are accidental (like the JAL a350 collision), mechanical-if it’s engine-related, Boeing/Airbus doesn’t make the engines; if it’s structural, they’re mostly been because of improper repairs (cue JAL flight 123 for example); BUT this 737-Max issue is due to Boeing’s criminally lacking of quality control on itself. It’s not even part of the statistics that planes crash due to the manufacturer’s QC issues. Boeing made an entirely stat exclusive for them because so far, Airbus, Embraer, and Bombardier has QC standards competently high enough.

[@Chevelled]

@@coopa2002 I’m not trying to disagree with you. I’m saying that there is no such thing as perfectly safe in logistics.

[@jonasuk]

Google flights is generally good. Though there can be last minute equipment changes. I have been avoiding the max but as I fly alot I know it would be likely i could end up on one and I did a couple of days ago, just after the Alaska 737M9 incident Norwegian put me on a 737M8. I almost didn't go. But that would have meant a lot of inconvenience and I am glad I went. I thought to myself, they have good pilots and if they are happy to fly then so am I. The flight was very smooth, on time and no issues. Will I be avoiding it..yeah probably for a bit. Having said that being on a max is still likey safer than driving and and many other day to day activities we don't think much of.

[@aetherstarry4966]

Max 8? Wow... I probably would be cancelling/reschedule even if it means inconvenience. I'm a bit traumatized cuz one of the two crashed Max 8 was a plane from an airline in my country. I followed the news closely back then and it angered me so much how complicit the boeings staffs were in those two crashes. They intentionally forgo pilot training of the new features in the aircraft as a measure to cut budget and maximize profit, lied to those pilots and claimed it was basically the same aircrafts as their previous model and they didn't need to update their training 😭 it was such a sad day for us Indonesian

[@Steve-gf8gv]

Fly, you will live or die.

[@twopercentbattery]

Just so you know millions have flown the MAX, even i flew one 2 weeks ago with Ryanair - if your in Europe just know Ryanair have never had any sort of crash

[@tristontherailfan]

I took a 737 max last month and it was fine.

[@MsVanillaSugar]

I, too, just flown on the 737 Max 9 plane just last week, May 13th through May 18th. All was well...no issues...and I felt safe....prayers sent up to the high heavens well in advance, though🙏🏾. And this is coming from one who doesn't like flying✈️ at all.

[@stuartlee6622]

​@@MsVanillaSugar How marvelous for you....

[@SBICOffical]

i took one 2 weeks ago

[@ramyfares9099]

I just flew on fly Dubai’s 737 max 8 from Dubai to Tbilisi on 8th June and returning on 13th June and it was pretty good, though I was scared on 8th June on the 737 max, but as soon as the plane took off, it was very smooth.

[@tomi_steel]

I flew on FlyDubai last week from Zagreb to Dubai, half way through 6 hours flight there was very distinct vibrations in equal intervals for about 10min on the back of the plane. Then it went away. I could feel the plane vibrate..Very strange as i never experienced anything like it when flying. It wasnt a nice feeling and i will not fly on that plane any more. When we landed in Dubai, there was a maintenance tech inspecting something on a fuselage with a torch. Wander what actually happened during the flight.

[@Peteliao]

I flew Alaska 737 max and American 737 Max plenty of times since the last 2 years I was traveling. I will tell you the worst thing that happened was, there was no WiFi on one of the flights, and I couldnt submit my report on time for work. Fly Safe everyone! dont let the media stop you from traveling the world.

[@MarekParek68]

the hull loss rate (an incident damaging the plane so bad it's not worth repairing) of a 737 max is 1.48 per million take-offs. For comparison A320, a direct competetor to 737 max has 0.12

[@Gabe-g9u]

Fuck the MAX and its apologists. If you’re still cheering on Boeing, you’re supporting corporate greed. Refuse to fly it, lobby the airlines to turn their backs on it.

[@Adumzzinthehouse]

The 737 Max 8 (Original unsafe one) was in the two that crashed which it’s safety has been improved since then. It also doesn’t have the door plug that this specific 737 max 9 had a blowout in. The 737 max 9 with a blowout was only a few months old which means that there is some present manufacturing issues which means an issue with quality control, not a design flaw

[@Junimeek]

I feel like quality control issues is just as bad of a problem as a design flaw is when it comes to aviation

[@Adumzzinthehouse]

@@Junimeek Quality control can be fixed with better management, a design flaw would call for recalling every plane and scrapping them or severely redesigning them

[@curtisjackson7814]

There is clearly a design flaw hence why it crashed twice and they had to install the Mcas software as the max from the beginning had a tendency to lift its nose due to Boeing rushing the design process when they created the max and just sticking a new bigger engine on pretty much the same size body of the plane as the previous gen which was suited to the original smaller engine, so the mcas is there to compensate the poorly designed flaws in the Boeing 737 max. Worst plane in recent decades from Boeing and airbus. It should be completely banned but profits and reputation of Boeing comes first

[@Adumzzinthehouse]

@@curtisjackson7814 I wasn’t referring to the original MCAS crashes, just the Blowout recently and the issue on the manufacturing line

[@emanekafecaftoggaf6893]

lol what did they do? release a software update? I don't trust the plane for sh*t. the original literally activated MCAS if EITHER AoA sensor detected a stall. That means the chance of a catastrophic false positive activation was DOUBLE what it would otherwise be if they configured the logic properly. Even if that's Boeing at its worst, that's really, really, really f-ing bad. The plane was flawed from the start. You can't rely on software to fix fundamental aerodynamic design flaws. They would have done better with a new airframe

[@kingcaper7816]

Finally, less people on my Southwest flights and more room for me 🙏 thank you Boeing for the mass hysteria so i can ride more comfortably 🥳😂

[@linuxman7777]

The same people worried about the 737max most of them drive cars, which are orders of magnitude more dangerous

[@michael.forkert]

_I doubt that cars are more dangerous than airplanes. Machines themselves aren’t dangerous. Machines don’t fail if the maintenance is followed strictly, when no exceptions, nor rush are allowed, the crew has to be well trained, disciplined and well paid. The maintenance and ground personnel as well._

[@Yahgtulah]

My car doesn't tried to nosed down in the middle of highway

[@varig933]

Well I can’t avoid the 737 Max because I fly them 😅😂😂

[@ChuWannin-w4d]

If you fly them then you know that they are safe

[@ryanlittleton5615]

The MAX is an objectively good aircraft. Its problem is that it's built by modern day Boeing

[@HannesA-my3xp]

I think we are safe here in South Africa. Airlines here doest fly the Boeing. It's either Airbus or Embraer

[@latandu]

i don't care about it at all, I'll fly wherever is the cheapest

[@SillySausageShow]

Flew it today and it was quiet and comfortable

[@magnustan841]

I think we should wait for the full investigation report to come out, before pointing fingers and throwing all the blame onto a single party. I enjoy the MAX passenger experience, so I wouldn’t go avoid it like the plague, unless problems and incidents pop up every other week. Then that’s reason to avoid.

[@da480]

2 downed planes, killing hundreds, loose bolts news even before Alaska incident, then Alaska incident, only by luck no killing anyone, then news after news about other quality issues… and you need an official investigation???…. right.

[@Thecoingarage]

Like we did for MCAS?

[@MerkyAviation11]

Exactly my thought.

[@acl6872]

Boeing doesn’t have a very good track record with their 737s

[@coopa2002]

Considering Alaska and United found numerous aircraft with lose bolts, and Boeing is being investigated by the FAA it’s pretty safe to say that Boeing is at fault here

[@SummerVR82]

I went on the 737 max today on a flight and it was an amazing flight don’t worry guys

[@Flightfest900]

It’s a safe plane. The point of Mcas was to save lives. People need to understand that

[@darkminer8675]

Even though the 737 MAX 8 was the one responsible for the 2 crashes at the beginning of the 737 MAX Lineup's, it hasn't had any major issues since it was cleared to fly again by the FAA in November 2020. The MAX 7, 9, and 10 though aren't so lucky. I won't mind flying on a 737 MAX 8, but i'm gonna steer clear of the MAX 9 for now until Boeing gets their shit together (If they even can)

[@zemm9003]

Had two major issues last year that are under investigation.

[@stalinizzatore8292]

​@@zemm9003su quali aerei?

[@lunaaaaaa7878]

As a cabin crew I can assure you guys this plane is 100% safe. Boeing is generally most trusted company and 737 is a reliable plane which got checked so many times as its the most popular plane in the world. 737 MAX is just their new variant with even more amendments closer to the perfection than 737 NG for example. Pilots are trained to operate on them and know exactly everything that can happen and how to react because how this plane acts is very predictable. Most of the crashes/incidents are caused by untrained staff and pilots so if you wanna avoid any problems I recommend you should choose a trusted airline.

[@thomasjordan-melcher673]

😂😂😂

[@TheDiasporaMedia]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤡 = you

[@mixedbyfiatcat]

most trusted, is not hard when its hardly any other players.

[@JayJayAviation]

People in the replies trolling them even though they’re completely correct?

[@deanfaulkner2262]

Generally ain’t good enough. They should put 100 percent into safety which they haven’t been and cutting corners for years. The safety rating might be up after the 2 crashes but it’s still unnaceptable in my opinion. Safe or not you do not cut corners when building commercial planes…any plane infact.

[@triple7marc]

Weird that a major aviation KZbinr is spreading misinformation. The plug door issue doesn’t even affect all 737 MAX variants. It only affects the MAX 9, which is a minority of MAXs that are currently operating. Southwest Airlines, which operates the MAX 8, literally didn’t even ground their planes because what happened to Alaska’s plane can’t happen to theirs.

[@Notmq99]

You’re right

[@JayJayAviation]

He’s referring to the MAX issues as a whole, including production issues and the MAX 8 accidents

[@triple7marc]

@@JayJayAviation The accidents are not relevant anymore though. Those problems were fixed.

[@JayJayAviation]

@@triple7marc true

[@triple7marc]

@VladPutin88 Why is that exactly?

[@SomeRandomDude-e8e]

I went to fly in an 737 max and its perfectly fine no issues i cant see why people fear boeings

[@SomeRandomDude-e8e]

Also yes i know the boeing situation but most of the crashes were from pilot errors

[@DMS20231]

Ha or Fly Southwest, which despite flying them (737s), has a FAR better safety record than all of the others. Southwest is bigger than all of them and has killed precisely one passenger in 50 years compared to thousands by any other big airline. SWA hires the best of the best formal military pilots. They have the best maintenance staff in the industry.

[@MG101]

I literally booked a flight specifically because I saw it was on the max lol

[@derjenigewelche]

When suicidal ideas become a little too fascinating😂

[@sen5908]

It's doesn't matter max or no max, the factory is the problem, profit over safety, it's not the aircraft it's the people building them, and withholding important information from pilots on there systems

[@Passengerfel]

Thanks for the tip Dan! Quite worrying to see news around the MAXs

[@ItsMoStuff111]

As an avgeek I wouldn’t feel unsafe at all on a 737 max but it is a questionable aircraft and Boeing does have some explaining to do. But I still love Boeing.👍

[@paulac7165]

@@ItsMoStuff111 I'm rn feeling unsafe ;-; Im taking a 737 max in 2 weeks and have seen many videos about it's story. I'm so terrified and comments make me feel anxious and dumb for taking this flight

[@derjenigewelche]

​@@paulac7165 I will fly on one in exactly one week. If I survive, you will too. If not, the aircraft will be most likely grounded. So you won't fly on it and thus survive in any way😁

[@gabrielquinones3343]

@@paulac7165your more likely to be killed in a car accident on the way to the airport Or have a fatal heart attack in the airport than you are to die in a plane crash The odds are 1-1billion

[@BAC1-11]

*All Planes* have their flaws and design issues

[@yukonstriker1703]

Pretty alarming a major yt influencer is avoiding the Max... Speaks volumes

[@jamesadcock5235]

They are safe if pilots have experience of flying max 8. Only crashed because the pilots didn't have experience of mcas. Max 8 almost crashed near me last year coming into land at Stansted airport. Pilot's had it under control

[@SweetCloud0598]

A week ago I traveled on one of these and at first I was very nervous, but then the plane is so quiet, smooth and comfortable that I thought it was a fantastic flight . I suppose they were consequences because before boarding the 737 MAX, I had a flight from South America on an A330 in which there was too much turbulence. Apart from the takeoff and landing phase, I felt a lot of headache. In the MAX I didn't even realize when the plane began to descend until I began to see the city below the turbine.

[@H3artFang]

If you're afraid: dont fly. Simple as that

[@adrianmurat]

Just flew on a Max-9 today (Corendon Dutch), they have a different config than the one of Alaska. It's an incredible plane, and whilst safety must come first ofc, I trust aviation authorities and their decisions. Would never avoid a flight just because of the airplane operating it. I'd even be happy to fly on a Ilyushin or some other Soviet relic.

[@nothing56644]

How’s it incredible it’s the same old 737 with more problems

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

LOL, how did you come to the conclusion that it’s incredible?

[@Tom-zr4xf]

I also flew on a United 737 Max9, two days before the incident on Alaska Airlines. I also flew home on a 737-900. No comparison, the Max9 was superior in every category, especially a quieter cabin. I think the youtuber is fear mongering to get clicks.

[@KensoranAV]

The max 8 is an incredible to fly on nowadays imo, hopefully the max 9 issues get to a fair resolution soon.

[@KelBob-l5f]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183Just his opinion, maybe because he’s considering the comfort and great experience it provides for passengers on its own.

[@Aviation_0912]

If its Boeing, i aint going

[@hoangminhx007]

777,787,767,747,757 Multiple of them ? Why F not ? 😅

[@DogeBlox47]

Boeing is safe, just a few aircraft have faults like the 737 maxes

[@JayJayAviation]

Good luck getting anywhere

[@mowtow90]

@@JayJayAviation Most EU airlines have majority of Airbuses so you will be fine.

[@dwarfie24]

​@@JayJayAviationLaughs in europe. 😂

[@rfnmmandal]

In India fly IndiGo if u are really scared of Boeing themselves, they are a boeingless airline.

[@yunuscurrie3410]

Ive had a scare on board a 737max when the pilot pushed the nose down at 30 degrees and -4000ft/min without informing the passengers. According to the pilot it was a careful manuvoer and i joked to him about MCAS which got some laughs

[@JayJayAviation]

A -30° pitch would not be a 4,000fpm decent. It would be more like 5-10° depending on speed

[@yunuscurrie3410]

@@JayJayAviation oh our airspeed was low, around half of crusing speed

[@youseflatif796]

You were on the Southwest flight, right?

[@yunuscurrie3410]

@@youseflatif796 no qatar airways

[@JayJayAviation]

@@yunuscurrie3410 your flight was completely normal

[@nurrizadjatmiko21]

But i am actually ready to flown onboard the Boeing 737 MAX in the near future at anytime because i have never flown onboard the MAX in my life.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

The window seat can get a bit breezy.

[@SWAT_Bro12]

There is no reason to be scared of a plane crash or anything of the sort. You’re more likely to die on the way to the airport than you are on the plane.

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

It sucks. Only Alaska air services ak so I’m stuck with Boeing

[@Kotapises]

As a passenger? Not necessarily, but up to you. As an airline? Hell yeah.

[@FifyKaqiqiPain]

If it's Boeing I ain't going

[@JewelK330]

Honestly this helped me feel better for my second upcoming solo flight to my home country. I was gonna go through Frontier but based on negative reviews, I cancelled and booked with JetBlue. With the incident with Alaska airlines, I was worried and getting anxiety already. But, thanks to your tips, I'm confident on this trip. I heard some airlines are grounding the model 737 MAX to do some maintenance but, let's hope they do a very thorough check up on the models.

[@delta_cosmic]

They should rebrand the 737 max into the DC-10 max. At least that would sound more appropriate.

[@mattmichaels31]

You mean one of the safest planes ever just like the DC 10 proved to be

[@bellaxu8520]

“JetBlue and Delta” *me seeing JetBlue and delta 737s everywhere ☠️

[@Andydna]

JetBlue and Delta 737max's not 737

[@JayJayAviation]

Where are you seeing a JetBlue 737?? 😂😂😂

[@jaimodi640]

Jet Blue doesn't have a single Boeing in its fleet

[@Nabeel_2]

I avoid them like the plague

[@aycc-nbh7289]

How so? Even if you follow the advice in the video, equipment changes and cancellations may force you to board these planes.

[@JayJayAviation]

Why

[@timothy468]

😂 dawg you probably still caught covid.

[@BFerris77]

I love the max, its genuinely wonderful to fly on and those winglets are just *chefs kiss*

[@MrFuxhound]

After watching the Boeing documentory on Netflix i am pretty disgusted by Boeing management and thus avoid them as much as possible.

[@74viation]

mcdonnell douglas promised a better military footing when they merged, all they did was fuck up the passenger planes. how evil of them!

[@ignwillie]

what is the documentary names? im interested to watch it. thanks

[@74viation]

@@ignwillie downfall: the case against boeing

[@ejny486]

@@74viationpure evil and greed

[@aycc-nbh7289]

So how come Airbus hasn’t had any documentaries about their issues? Or did _Sully_ do enough damage?

[@fra93ilgrande]

Now it’s fine, no worries

[@chadlonsoracingteam]

Reccently they call it 737-8

[@risingsun9595]

That’s because that’s the new designation. Old gen 737s are numbered for a hundred, so 737-800 is the NG

[@JayJayAviation]

They already called it the 737-8

[@tonylee8905]

Just putting it out there… the max8 is safe to fly. The max9 was the one that had to Alaska Airlines incident…

[@edmundblack8754]

Just avoid Boeing all together. I do that as much as I can. Has always been doing this since the mid 2010s when my friend who is an engineer ok Boeing told me he would never fly Boeing.

[@traceymarshall5886]

Michael O'leary announced that passengers can request to avoid if the ryanair plane is a 737 max for an older plane and Ryanair will change their ticket to the next available craft for free

[@Whitbyrailfancanada]

the max is great for its quite engines though, right???

[@rxxxe2691]

I think the 737 MAX 8 is fine but the 737 MAX 9 has problems. I flew the 737 MAX 8 with Air Canada multiple times and I’ve never had issues. I love AC’s 737’s, they are very modernly refurbished.

[@fraserandrews3943]

TUI in the UK fly the 737 Max

[@jeremyy9188]

We need more Boeing planes like the Max-9 or Max-8. Airliner is the safest mode of transportation.

[@BilldalSWE]

Lol, ho much is Boeing PR-department paying you?

[@jeltje50]

Also one of the most pouting one.

[@uchedike9213]

Well avoiding the Max is not the way to go. I think is best to continue to hold the company accountable, continue to criticize the management until they restore the confidence of the public about the capabilities of the once renowned aviation giant and improve the work ethics and safety culture. Else the company dies. Be mindful that is just a small group of greedy executives trying to please the wall Street. Just know this, if Boeing dies American commercial aviation dies

[@bobbilly7738]

Thank you for this. This plane has honestly been one of the reasons I haven’t wanted to fly much recently even though I really like flying (though I’m sure flying one would be perfectly safe, it’s just not exactly giving me a great sense of security)

[@pilotaki1]

I'm traveling with FlyDubai in february...And the only option is Boeing 737 MAX 😅

[@ejny486]

Just pray

[@KensoranAV]

Could be a max 8.

[@pilotaki1]

@@KensoranAV 99% chance because their Boeing 737 MAX 8 always flies to my city.

[@triple7marc]

Good. It’s a comfortable, safe and modern airplane.

[@ForeverFree05]

The engines are noticeably bigger and the wingtips have a 'v' shape on the max. This is how i knew i was flying a max back in 2021 even though they had changed their naming (should be illegal). I wouldn't have booked the flight if i knew it was a max. I would fly a max again only after i hear that all the engineers are satisfied with the quality.

[@h.h.6171]

Flew on one Thursday, flying back tomorrow on one. No sweat.

[@Alz1204]

I flew with 737 MAX for 7 hours 💀

[@mykuyalenoschannel7255]

Ryanair has 737-800 but not the 737-MAX-8

[@zemm9003]

Now they do.

[@stalinizzatore8292]

No,Ryanair ha 100 max 8 200

[@RICHM7BV7]

I think many people will agree with me when I say the 737 Max is the new DC 10. From what I was reading the 737 Max should have been totally redesigned, instead of just placing the larger engines on it. I think the two plane crashes they had could have been easily been avoided.

[@davidthayer3831]

Yes, the airline didn't do their job!

[@abedrawas5692]

If it’s not an Airbus, I ain’t going

[@youseflatif796]

So if you have a regional flight on a crj900 or e190, for a connection, you wouldn't go?

[@thispersondoesexist2733]

Frontier in the US also doesn’t fly Boeing if you want a budget us line

[@coolx8097]

You forgot, Middle East, all airlines, excluding Oman air, Iraqi Airways and Qatar Airways‘ Middle Eastern destinations.

[@GA-ik6pi]

That said, you won’t technically be able TO avoid it😂. In all honesty, this is a one off until Boeing and even Alaskan, need to be aware of hugely now. This shouldn’t have happened, however you could say the same for cars. Are you ACTUALLY going to avoid particular cars? Tesla has had its issues with the whole self driving thing (we are not quite there yet😅), therefore until both airlines and manufacturers can check EVERY SINGLE ANGLE on their aircrafts, don’t say how can you avoid. That’s not good advice. Yes in Europe overall, only a few carriers operate the B7M8 and I dk if any operate the new one, I think that just the US only.👍🏾

[@BlueBoeingAviation]

Nah man I’ll be the opposite “If it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going” Am I really in trouble?

[@Ryuuu6581]

Philippines Airlines, Cebu Pacific, Air Asia, Eva Air, and Air Seoul is also options

[@SmooV15]

Feel safer on realy old 737 when Boeing built quality planes

[@dailydoseofvines1295]

What happened last week?

[@minhyuklees1bebe902]

airlines in my country don't even use boeing narrowbodies so there's really nothing to avoid for me other than scratched af plane windows.

[@da480]

Yes, absolutely. Far too many incidents including fatal with this plane. And I’d go even further… if possible, better to avoid any new make Boeing as clearly their safety issues have developed in the last 4-5 years.

[@davidthayer3831]

How many is that?

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Only 3 accidents happened. Although that's worse than the usual airliner in the late 2010s/early 2020s

[@linuxman7777]

Do you drive?

[@jhtv5757]

I woudl avoid it right now, simply because there may be further delays issues while the NTSB/FAA continue their investigations

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

I honestly think the 737 MAX is still a good aircraft. And I've actually never flown it, only the 737-800 (part of the NG series). It's ok if you don't wanna fly the MAX, in fact, you have all the freedom in the world to choose your airline, but some people who don't wanna fly it act like if a MAX falls out of the sky every day. Only 3 major accidents happened with the type, so no need to worry too much.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

@masudsaleh5155 (This was commented a month ago, before any more issues were revealed)

[@alexisduarte3917]

I dont think you'll be saying that if one family member of yours where to be in one of those crashes

[@stalinizzatore8292]

​@@alexisduarte3917secondo il tuo ragionamento, ben poche persone dovrebbero guidare l automobile..

[@alexisduarte3917]

@@stalinizzatore8292 people in cars usually dont die do to manufacturing errors. They do because of drivers error

[@telamin1809]

I’ve been avoiding it since those fatal accidents a few years ago and I tend to fly airbus mostly. Don’t trust Boeing to put safety before profits.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@Pilot_gear747now you are just making assumptions. No way of telling that the MAX 8 is safer than the A320. Also, with quality control problems, the MAX 8 that was so scrutinized and yes, is a safe design, doesn’t mean that production aircraft are of the exact same quality. Look at this incident, I’m sure the MAX 9 is also an extremely safe aircraft, until they forgot to install some bolts.

[@Adumzzinthehouse]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183Well actually he is right, the A320 has had a lot of crashes, both pilot error and mechanical

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@Adumzzinthehouse please, list all the mechanical accidents that made the A320 or one of its derivatives, crash? I’d love to hear about these “lots of crashes”.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183He would, but KZbin forbids putting hyperlinks into comments.

[@MatthewL1973]

Max jets are chronically stuffy and hot. Multiple airlines and the crew often inform us it’s the aircraft and they try to make it cooler. Not loved.

[@perezster]

Although I've been on the MAX several times, it's becoming very concerning. I wish UA chamges their equipment for flight UA268. Ugh it's MAX.

[@mattheisen77]

Ill stick to Embraer, thanks!

[@lzh4950]

In Asia SIA only flies the MAX8 not the MAX9, without the same plug door as the one on Alaska Airlines, while its budget subsidiary Scoot flies A320s instead

[@somchaiwongma3813]

We will never ever sit on a MAX, no matter how many times Boeing and the FAA reiterate how safe this piece of junk is. I wasn‘t surprised that the door plug separated from a 9 weeks old MAX and not on some other kind of plane

[@thomasgeddes4817]

Short answer "Yes". Teach Boeing a lesson. Lives over profit.

[@yazdankhodayar]

No

[@JayJayAviation]

It doesn’t affect Boeing in the slightest

[@sudbtd]

@@JayJayAviationim pretty sure the incidents have

[@JayJayAviation]

@@sudbtd that’s not what we’re talking about here

[@sudbtd]

@@JayJayAviation then what are you talking about

[@milantehrandubai]

Short answer: Yes.

[@shroomyesc]

I thought at first that Alaska ignoring warning signs was the issue, but then I found out that their Max 9 was only 2 months old and United also found issues with improper bolts after the Alaska incident.

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

Go Greyhound. 👍

[@chrisgironde6669]

I’m totally avoiding Ryanair so means will have to use Bordeaux for easyJet rather than Bergerac

[@JayTee2985]

Sure do. Couldn’t switch my flight to Dallas to a non-737 Max so I cancel my trip instead.

[@bgamer251]

Delta does fly the 737-900ERs though

[@adamaviation6236]

Those aren't MAXs, it's part of the NG fleet which is one of the most renowned aircraft divisions to date

[@bgamer251]

@@adamaviation6236 hence the "though"

[@adamaviation6236]

@@bgamer251 the concerns aren't relevant to that plane tho

[@adamgibson7181]

Because China say its safe you think it is because it's a rival? Not because China would be limited in what else it can fly?

[@aycc-nbh7289]

Because they would stand to lose from a Boeing plane being called safe, especially as they try to build their COMAC planes.

[@Ride-Drive]

I haven't been on a plane for 20 years. And in march I'm planning a family vacation (me, wife, two kids) to Dubai. A380, Emirates. I watch your videos, they make me less nervous, since I'm anxious

[@jamie7664]

You’ll be fine! Enjoy your trip!

[@fidiasioannides1159]

A380 is easily the best plane to fly on, very safe also

[@liamoful]

Few on it fews times . Very smooth

[@monserratrocha9511]

You forgot viva aerobus and volaris they are both Mexican airlines whit viva aerobus having the a320 a320neo and a321neo and volaris haves the same aircraft but also the a319

[@rk-fb5hw]

An aircraft which is fundamentally unairworthy and can only be used because of computer control.... What could possibly go wrong?

[@EEEEEEE354]

while i do not like the 737 max, you are not on the right track. Have you heard of Airbus? Do you know what fly-by-wire is? Every airbus plane since the A320 uses computer control, AKA fly-by-wire. They cannot be flown without it. Same for every fighter jet since the 70s. Those planes are intentionally designed unstable, and COULD NOT be flown without the fly-by-wire. 737 max by comparison is actually less computerized, but its the implementation of the MCAS system that you are thinking of. 737 max is directly controlled by pilot via hydraulics, but the MCAS system will automatically engage the horizontal stabilizer to pitch the nose down. The issue with max is that its not computer controlled until it is...

[@phillipabbott3543]

@@EEEEEEE354 Yes, I do know about fly by wire. I have actually worked on similar industrial systems. Sensors, simulation/prediction algorithms, actuators, and detailed records just in case. A commercial aircraft has one primary objective - to land safely. Preferably at the intended destination, but anywhere will do as a last resort. A fighter has entirely different objectives. Passengers in a 737 MAX or Airbus would probably get upset by a 9G maneuver, but for a fighter it's pretty much routine. I'm sure that's only partly why they are fly by wire. The 737 NAX was designed ti be unstable to save money. To fit bigger engines than the airframe could handle, putting the centre of gravity in the wrong place. Or was it the thrust line? I'm not sure now. Fly by wire flew two of them into the ground because of this and other other cost cutting measures. Even if fly by wire is used, I see no justification for making the underlying airframe unstable.

[@EEEEEEE354]

@@phillipabbott3543 you are kind of missing the point here. I brought up fly by wire in Airbus and fighter jets as a retort to you bringing up the whole computer control thing. Computer control isn't an issue, and it is in fact safer than traditional hydraulic controls. The issue was Boeing's implementation of mcas. Mcas is not a fly by wire system. The 737 Max was also not designed to be unstable, but the new engine position made the airplane less stable particularly at higher angles of attack. Under normal flight conditions, the airplane is stable. An Airbus aircraft is probably less stable and there is a good reason for that. Having a less stable aircraft in Cruise flight means the stabilizers dont have to work as hard to trim the aircraft. When we are cruise at high altitudes, the plane's nose will be at a higher angle. Trim helps to maintain that angle without constant input from the pilot, but that trim is creating a down force on the tail, reducing total lift and increasing drag. This concept is known as trim drag. With an Airbus this ain't as much of an issue, as the stabilizers wont need to deflect as much, resulting in less down force, less drag, and overall greater fuel efficiency. The relaxed stability design absolutely does not compromise safety, as again, those fly by wire systems are actually more reliable than traditional hydraulics.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@EEEEEEE354most of what you say is correct, however, the Airbus can be flown without computers. It’s not that unstable. There probably isn’t much difference in stability between the 737 and the A320. Also, another thing incorrect, the MAX isn’t unstable at higher angles of attack. The problem was that if a pilot found himself too slow and had to go to full power during flight, due to the engine location, it would pitch up the nose significantly more than previous 737s. Double the force on the yoke was required to lower the nose. Because this was significant enough, had they not installed MCAS, it would require additional training. So MCAS was put on to reduces this pitch down force to the same levels as the NG. Technically, the MAX didn’t need MCAS at all.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

The aircraft can be used without a computer. Your whole statement is false.

[@GiovanniBausC]

If I have a reasonable choice between the 737 MAX and an A320, I go with Airbus. The MAX is a flawed redesign with some patches.

[@JayJayAviation]

It flies fine