Should you buy a 450 or 22’ YZ250 Two Stroke? 🤔 Voice Over - GoPro Fox Raceway

[@j-sammys5549]

You sum it up best at the end. If you are a legit racer go 450, but if u are like 99.9% of us watching these vids the yz250 is gonna put a bigger smile on your face!

[@mountainmandale1587]

Don't even question yourself. By the two-stroke! You can rebuild it in your garage the night before you race. And, you can afford it. Stay away from those four strokers!

[@MaxwellBenson80]

Solid point!! Long live the brapppp

[@deancarroll7014]

Spot on....2 stroke for life!!!!

[@cmimportersandexporterspty3456]

Awesome review because I am deciding if I should go with the YZ250 2 Stroke or the YZ250F. Quiet drawn to the old 2 Stroke concept though

[@chandlersuddarth639]

As someone who thought 450s were better. I own a 2009 kx450 I’ve loved that bike for awhile. The other day my uncle let me rip his 2022 yz 250 and I have never felt a bike so smooth. I’m now listing my 450 and buying a 250

[@chandlersuddarth639]

@martin barr's CRF450 I’ve also rode my buddy’s 2018 yz450 it was slower than my 450 but it was smoother

[@chandlersuddarth639]

@martin barr's CRF450 no where near as smooth as that 22 yz250 power band just feels better to me

[@sburton223]

A 250 two stroke has all the power I will ever be able to use.

[@Range-X]

and some more lol

[@cmimportersandexporterspty3456]

Thanks Steve: I was checking the weight difference as well which the YZ250 2 Stroke is about 5-6 kg's lighter than the YZ250F. The more I research and watch these awesome sites, the more I am convinced about getting a YZ250 2 Stroke. 99.9% sold on it. 🏆

[@Range-X]

@@cmimportersandexporterspty3456 Comparing a 250f to a 250 is night and day. I have a an 06 yz250 and it’s a violent machine. Very reliable too

[@patrickmeyer9905]

@@cmimportersandexporterspty3456 hey to further sell you, the weight of both bikes could be equal but the 250f would feel way heavier. You know why? A four stroke is more planted and engine breaking exists. So it will still feel heavier comparing to a 2 stroke. Which has no engine breaking and it's a very loose feel on the bike. If you end up getting the 2 stroke a couple good tips I have is learn proper body position if you haven't and move fluently with the bike. If it gets a little sideways grip with the knees but don't stiffen up. It'll hop around and do it's thing so let it, the second you try and man handle it is when you send yourself into orbit and wake up in a hospital bed 😂

[@cmimportersandexporterspty3456]

@@patrickmeyer9905 : Thank you for the advise Patrick 👍 I have done some research and it seems like the 2 stroke does rump around but is a nicer bike to ride, so I have decided to go for the 2 stroke because I don't want to race but just have fun with the mates at the age of 51. Have ridden bikes for many years, so will take it easy and just have a gas (fun)

[@christerstefansson3249]

The raceteams back in the day and the 2022 GYTR kit uses a flywheel weight for more calm power and grip and better suspension action. Try that out right now.

[@jimbo4203]

I was the guy that always said that you don't need a 450 . 250 2 strokes and 250fs are plenty fast ,but finally got a yz450 and man that thing rips !

[@shannonscott5788]

I agree with you and it didn’t hit me until all the top 5 MX riders were winning championships on 450 4t. 2t are fun but my Mx 450 is awesome!!!

[@woodysrockspyro6436]

I have a kx450 2022... and a 2016 yz250x.. really would like to try a 2022yz250 with good brakes. My 450 is unbelievable everywhere except the weight category. A 300 kit on a 250 might be crazy fun if they upgraded the brakes.

[@jimbo4203]

@@woodysrockspyro6436 i had a ktm 350 sxf that I just sold , it really was fun , faster than a 250 and almost as fast as our crf 450 but feels way lighter

[@woodysrockspyro6436]

@@jimbo4203 I've rode one of those.. seemed like it had a ton of vibration. No idea if they all feel that way.

[@jimbo4203]

@@woodysrockspyro6436 the 350 sxf has like zero vibration and revs to the moon , something was definitely wrong with what you rode

[@antfal-n-everything7154]

I am 49 years old, ride a 22 YZ 2 banger, i agree, its a fun bike to ride, nice accurate review Shelby

[@justingammon1163]

I ride for fun so I picked a 250 2 banger.

[@derrick_kading4236]

The balancer robs power whether ktm admits it or not I ride a 97 cr250 love YZ’s vibration is not that big of deal and definitely not a deal breaker

[@daybreak6034]

Can't you just run a lighter flywheel on the Ktm and I think the ktm makes more power than the Yz.

[@whiteman3075]

The balancer will take away some snap and may slightly effect max hp but an object once in motion wants to stay in motion so it should help the KTM’s chug better and have less flame out at very minimum rpm. Yamaha has always built the best engines. I’m a master technician for a living and I work on many brands over the last 20 years and nothing as reliable as Yamaha in my opinion.

[@daybreak6034]

@@whiteman3075 Thanks for your insight.

[@j-sammys5549]

Some triple clamps might help with the vibration aswell

[@ddrowdy7666]

Yeh, I always thought it was just part of riding dirt bikes, still do, I don't even notice it.

[@zachflores1505]

Just bought a 2022 250 and it’s so much more fun to ride than my 450 sxf

[@ShelbyPaget]

That’s awesome! What’s your suspension feel for your weight and skill?

[@zachflores1505]

@@ShelbyPaget I weight 195 and it’s awesome! I adjusted it a bit in because the forks were a bit stiff. I just ride for fun but im a B rider. Not super fast, but not slow either. Bike works perfect for me because I feel like it has such a good range

[@ShelbyPaget]

@@zachflores1505 perfect! Thanks for the info!

[@jeradbennett5030]

Great video and feedback on the bike. It is such a solid simple reliable bike. I just purchased a 2022 gas gas mc 250 and I absolutely love it. The lack of vibration compared to older 250 2 strokes is noticeable and the thing is super light. To me it sort of feels like a 125 chassis with a 250 motor. The air forks took a sec to break in and get used to, I played with the preasure and clickers a little, but now I've got them feeling pretty good. I almost went the Yamaha route as I've had one in the past and really liked it. But the lighter weight and counter balanced engine won me over. That and I had an old mc 250 way back in 2004 because my cousin was a Gas Gas dealer at the time. So I wanted to try the KTM version lol. Go ride one man I think you'll be pleasantly surprised especially if you get the suspension set up right for you.

[@rydeking4579]

Bought my YZ250 new in 2005 only tail only trail ridden Now I’m ready for a new. Everyone’s telling me it would be a waist of time to get a 250 4t and just get the 450t

[@Davido50]

A 250F is a great bike an plenty! You don't need a 450F at all. Up to you.

[@visionvfx.]

@@Davido50 yz250 not 250f But youre still right though

[@HarrisHotRods.]

450s are super fun tho & yea I'd get it to be a whole new animal. You already got a animal of its own kind with a 250 2 stroke

[@cadillachernandez2271]

Bought a new 09' yz 250... and bought a new 21' yz 250 last spring... same bike!! Coulda bought any bike... Get another one!! You won't regret it.🤘🤘

[@SSRacing66]

The 2-stroke will put your skills to the test much more than the 4-stroke, so don't discouraged if you're not immediately comfortable and fast on it (2T) . Keep practicing , it takes time.

[@WestonSpicer]

I would say the 2 stroke will make you a better rider in the long run. Like when I came off a yz125 to a FC250 I was hauling ass, definitely wouldn’t be able to without the 2 stroke

[@chris-living-the-dream]

Im just under 17 stone and the suspension has been firm enough for me so I'd say your right with the need to go lighter on your spring rates , I changed the grips on mine to ODI lock on and have not noticed any vibes while riding .I had kashima applied to the upper fork tubes purely for looks and when I drained the outer chamber there was only 220 ml of oil in each plus what was left coating the fork internals , but I doubt that would take up the remaining 100ml .I refilled 300ml and it seems good so far .

[@joslinnick]

I'm coming off a Husky TC150, and I've considered a 24' YZ450, but I honestly don't think I'm ready for it. I think that the YZ250 is a better fit. A year or two on the YZ250 is probably necessary before I'm ready to step up to a 450.

[@daneg]

I'm curious how you rate the "feels like" weight of a modern 250 2-stroke vs. a modern 450 4-stroke. for comparison, I weighed 205-210 in my racing days in the schoolboy, 125, and 250 C and B divisions. I absolutely loved the 125 because I could just flick it around in a way that no 250 would allow. is that similar to the modern 250 vs. 450? I enjoyed the video. voice over worked well, and it's nice to get an amateur rider's perspective!

[@truthbetold8425]

A 250 - 2 stroke is the only choice in the 250 class but it requires a talented rider or the bike will wear you out. 2 Strokes demand aggression, and they are fast when ridden with aggression. 4 Strokes make for lazy riders which is why the injury count has gone way up over the years. In the 450 class, unless you're an exceptionally fast 2 stroke rider, the 450F is the faster bike in most race conditions. Certain tracks however will favour the 250 2 Stroke. But again, you need to be a star or rising star rider to be fast on any 2 - Stroke.

[@nissan_6828]

Buy a 125 lol

[@iwannacausetrouble2700]

Yeah mate but I grew up with 2 stroke and they were the fast bikes just like them not a racer

[@dylanmonnelly9539]

I agree, I have had my 15’ yz250 since 15’ after having a 14’ kx250f and before that a Honda 150r. I’ve rode a 2021 yz450 and it scared the shit out of me even after being able to shred a 250 2 stroke. There is just so little room for error on a 450 or 250f, 250f u have to always be tapped to be fast because the engine braking is insane, and a 450 you have to be so articulate cause if you grab too much throttle with the wrong timing you could have a completely life altering crash. My 250 2 stroke I’ve learnt to finesse with zero engine braking by being able to go full throttle then a smooth 30% off kickers, works like a charm for my riding style. I’ve had 2 operations on my ankle and knee from racing and feel like I’ll never hurt myself bad again with my confidence on my yz250 and just knowing the bike so well, I could never with a 450 riding would be boring for me on a 450 gelling like I have to dial it back.

[@dylanmonnelly9539]

@@nissan_6828 if your fast on a 125 your rebuilding the top end every 10 hours. I’d say 250f’s take maximum aggression the same way especially with engine braking. And 450’s are scary if your not just crusin laps. Which is fine but that’s boring for me, I get to use 80% of my yz250 and it’s the most fun I’ve had on dirt bikes and I’ve raced everything since 85 2 strokes to 450’s

[@hubertkam7647]

4ts are smoother and will always be faster than a 2t with the same power because you’ll get more traction exiting corners I have a enduro 2t and it’s still not nearly as smooth as a 4t

[@Nikolasz_]

Yo prefiero el yz 250 2t ya qué lo puedo ocupar tanto para cross y en el enduro andan de una manera increíble solo tienes que tener las ganas para montarlo

[@pikin2]

2 strokes hands down. It's not comparable in terms of the fun factor

[@bee_lovin]

Thank you for a solid analysis of the bike!

[@stopibeastin7196]

Just got another to add to the collection 2022 yz450f!!!

[@cartergreen9297]

I ride a kx 65 2009 and I use to ride a ssr70 .

[@DeanGuilberry2]

Add a Mako 360 bar mount to fix the vibrations and numb hands and blisters. I have a 2020 Sherco SE250 Factory the year prior to counter balance. It vibes but not like old Moto bikes. I got the XCGear Mako 360 bar mount system it is amazing. Took me a while to spend the money super glad I did. I no longer have arm pump and hand cramp after hard rides. Then I bought the Spurz pegs since the XCGear bar mount worked so good)

[@quadcityracing]

Everyone is waiting for a 250 two stroke shootout. Can you find a guy with a new Ktm & husky 250 and trade bikes and do a mini shootout.

[@coreyploof217]

Gotta have both, I have a 21 husky 450 and a 03 kx250. I take them both to the track on practice days but if I’m at a race or not just play riding only the 450 comes out I can go faster longer, but there isn’t much that beats the feeling of ringing a 250 smoker but about 3-4 hard laps on it I’m beat where my 450 I can carry a fast pace for 15-20 minutes and only be a little tired

[@МаксимЧебан-м6х]

Maybe difference between suspension?)

[@coreyploof217]

@@МаксимЧебан-м6х I have both bikes done by the same suspension but without a doubt the newer chassis and suspension comes into play. It’s mostly the power delivery, the 250 it’s either on or off where as my 450 I can roll on it easy and not have the bike rip me off it I can set my cruise control almost on the 450 and smooth 3rd gear the whole track

[@МаксимЧебан-м6х]

@@coreyploof217 👌

[@twangoldenbass]

Great info! Thanks for the insight

[@babylonhobbiesandfpv4862]

I just got a 2022 yz250 am about 89kgs and have noticed it's very finicky in ruts on straight lines under power. What would you recommend changing?

[@cadillachernandez2271]

Put a 490 in it.

[@bobbygee734]

Good vid mate! Im just wondering what bike do you think i should get out of a 2022 kx 250 or a 2022 kx 450 i own a yz 2022 250 2 stroke atm and am a similar rider to you?

[@rvmx513]

I had a Kx 450 ‘20, now I have a ‘22 Kx 250, and the lap times on the 250 are a lot quicker and more fun to ride

[@craigsteinman9807]

Where I come from your huiuva lot faster than a vet. Intermediate.. your funny man..lmao

[@livefreeandshred9818]

Currently having the same internal discussion. I have a yz250 (pre 22) and it need a subframe, maybe an opportunity to update to 22 parts ? Or get myself a 22 CRF250. The yz is so fun and fast but it's a ton of work to ride.

[@truthbetold8425]

The 250 2-Stroke is going to make you a better, faster more aggressive rider. If you cant win on a 2 stroke in the 250 class, it's time to get with the program and ride it harder. The bike is fully capable of making 250F's eat a lot of dirt.

[@daneg]

nah, man. 2 strokes aren't hard to ride. we're just living in a world where ppl are accustomed to 4 strokes. the real issue is there's no replacement for displacement. you can learn to ride a 250 2-stroke. when you do, you'll be leaving 250 4-strokes in the dust. guaranteed.

[@johnlastname2895]

You said you went 8 clicks slower/softer but that is 2 opposite things lol witch one is it? Did you go 8 clicks softer or harder? Because slower is stiffer not softer

[@ShelbyPaget]

Been too long ago I couldn’t tell ya but thanks for the heads up 😜

[@nickwukmir9853]

Dapends if it had elec.start and fuel inj.

[@tjjohnson4185]

Great vid!

[@olegrndahl1733]

Does anyone have a suggestion for setting the front and rear settings. I have started driving again as a senior, after a 40-year break. Yz 250 2022. finds it very confusing to find a good basic setting, which of course is also due to the age and the long break 😂😂😂 My weight with equipment is about 74 kg

[@ShelbyPaget]

Def make sure you start with proper rear sag at around 105mm then go from there with springs!

[@williamhall7785]

i just ordered this bike and i should have it in a month. Im 6' 4" 240lbs C rider. should the new spring be enough, or do you think a stiffer one would work. we ride mostly sand here

[@AxxCuLTT]

Was the suspension good?

[@davidbeier]

Where did you get your YZ250?

[@ShelbyPaget]

The dealership in my previous video from Utah!

[@davidbeier]

​@@ShelbyPaget Seems like new isn't a bad option if you live in Idaho (no used market and if you find one they are super expensive. Maybe i'll get one new one day too, though i'm thinking the new Kawasaki SXR 1500 standup jet ski. I also want camper & side by side & bike for the son lol. I would make a much better millionaire haha :\

[@chasejackson8959]

@@ShelbyPaget lmao make up click on the video why don’t you

[@pederbowers7700]

Always 2 stroke!!!

[@19Jharris]

2 stroke all day long - bring the 500’s back

[@beverywhereyouare]

Cool video :o) So the 450 is a faster bike though ?

[@ShelbyPaget]

Oh yeah

[@elcincero321]

Considering the YZ250 2T hasn't received any updates ok the motor except for better air intake for the past 17-18 years and it's stock this one.

[@skyward5748]

Good bikes, ugly front fender tho

[@2slowcoach]

450

[@nickwukmir9853]

YZ250F BEST BIKE EVER BUILT .

[@dalepellerin]

250 is more than I’ll ever need

[@ShelbyPaget]

Same! Haha sometimes I need that lazy torque though haha

[@Kinginwar]

Buy a rm 250 06 Freshen it up You'll never regret it

[@mattleitch9577]

Keep the 250 buy a 450 then you got the best of both worlds lol..

[@paulygood6665]

2-stroke

[@fattie2550]

250 all day long

[@SWATTracing]

As someone from Europe who is led to believe all Americans are fat, I can't believe how light a lot of these testers are! 150lbs?!?! I weighed that when I was 16. Are there any testers out there to give opinions for real world guys (6ft, 180+lbs)?

[@ShelbyPaget]

I try to gain weight but it won’t stick 😂

[@SWATTracing]

@@ShelbyPaget Then you, sir, are a lucky man! 😄

[@leospartyka4200]

I am from the Czech republic. My weight is 70 kg, I am 47 years old 😂 Now I own kx 450 2022, but I want new yz 250 2t. I don’t want batery, starter, startasistent … I don’t need the best on race, I want enjoy the ride, so yz 250 2t 2023 is waiting for me 😁

[@slygen7798]

Unless you ride every weekend, you will gain weight eating american food. You spend a lots of calories if you ride 3 times a week + keep training the rest of the week to get you strong enough and stay away from injuries.

[@brianrose8415]

2 stroke always 2 stroke

[@cartergreen9297]

So 2 sthroke all day

[@ShelbyPaget]

@@cartergreen9297 they’re so fun

[@cartergreen9297]

And I’m 11 years old 2:20

[@robchesley4591]

Now how the f$#k do you find one to buy? ... everything seems out of stock

[@derek_underwood]

Does nobody know about flywheel weights?? Lol

[@Makta972]

I hate the sound of 2 stoked bikes. Annoying as fuck

[@assman199491]

4t

[@mustknowinfo2001]

Are there special gloves you can buy lol

[@mustknowinfo2001]

You think it's good for 185lbs

[@ShelbyPaget]

That should be about ideal!

[@mustknowinfo2001]

You stayed in third the whole time

[@ShelbyPaget]

Def not haha but sure!

[@mustknowinfo2001]

@@ShelbyPaget you were kinda slow so I couldn't tell lol

[@ShelbyPaget]

@@mustknowinfo2001 😂

[@mustknowinfo2001]

@@ShelbyPaget ktm makes a great big wheel 85 might want to check it out lol increase them lap times 😜

[@ShelbyPaget]

@@mustknowinfo2001 I wouldn’t want to have the same bike as you man! I’ll stick with the big bikes 😜

[@pipefitterdirtbikerider3013]

450