Should you buy a 986 Porsche Boxster in 2023? | CarCave

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@spyder_man
@spyder_man Жыл бұрын
Porsche technician here in the UK told me he sees lots of high millage 986 on the original IMS, some up to 250k miles. Called it a non-issue, I agree.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching mate!
@davidanderson396
@davidanderson396 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mrporsche4236
@mrporsche4236 Жыл бұрын
Had to do mine at 160,000 kms. My porsche mechanic was doing 4 of them at the same time and says it’s definitely an issue with most of them. My porsche mechanic doesnt own a porsche and says he will never buy a porsche again. I agree with him
@spyder_man
@spyder_man Жыл бұрын
Question is did they need doing or was it the owners choice. Research is important when buying any car, all cars have weak spots, Porsche is no exception. I wont own anything but a Porsche, DYOR and being handy with the spanners are the key to success.
@yomansam4689
@yomansam4689 Жыл бұрын
@@mrporsche4236They’re an owner specific issue. It’s a common belief and pretty evident at that, that if you drive your PORSCHE how your PORSCHE is supposed to be driven, you don’t really get that issue. See plenty of people in my city daily driving 986s and 7s with no issue.
@frankieieie
@frankieieie Жыл бұрын
I got insanelly lucky and found a 69k mile 5-speed one for 3000 Dollars, you heard this right, 3 GRAND!!! car is in impecable shape for a 2003 and had the ims serviced in 2019. Truly a gift from God and a amazing car.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That is a crazy price. Keep that car forever
@TotallyNotASpy1
@TotallyNotASpy1 7 ай бұрын
Damn dude, I bought my old Polo for a little over 2000€. If only old Boxsters were this cheap here in Europe...
@davidowen2859
@davidowen2859 Жыл бұрын
Bought my 986 Boxster new in 1999 and 24 years later still have it. Done 30k and in mint condition, never been driven in the rain. Fortunate enough to have 2 other Porsches but still enjoy taking it out occasionally.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, not often you find an original owner of a 986!
@davidowen2859
@davidowen2859 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial No I guess not. Everytime I've thought of selling the sun comes out and the car comes out. By modern standards it's under powered but because of that you can have a bit of fun without breaking the speed limit to much. Mines Ocean Blue with full leather Savannah interior. The aircon needs gas but apart from that the only thing that's broke in 24 years is the spring on the vanity mirror. Must have used it to much🤣
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Having a crazy fast car isn't always the most enjoyable. Car's like the Boxster have just enough power to be fun and the open top experience with that flat-6 is just such a nice drive.... Blue with savannah sounds stunning!
@michaelsheedy
@michaelsheedy Жыл бұрын
I owned an Orient Red Metallic 986 for 6 years, and would still have it if I hadn't moved a long way away. Buy another one? Tempted, but I'm 7 years older and knees would scream at me.
@michaelsheedy
@michaelsheedy Жыл бұрын
I think the 986 with 217hp manual is a bit faster to 69. Car and Driver recorded a 5.9 and mid 5's with the S. So low 6's for the standard is reasonable.
@sparky7679
@sparky7679 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a handful of sports cars, 350z roadster, Mitsubishi evo, Pontiac gto, Infiniti q60 red sport, and got a 2002 boxster s last year, it has been my favorite so far from any other car I’ve owned.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Porsche family mate!
@richardcalon3724
@richardcalon3724 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 1999 will only 86k kms on it but with a failed engine (IMS), for cheap, took my time, did the work myself, found another low km engine, replaced IMS with an aftermarket improved bearing plus clutch and main seal while I was at it, and then fell in love with driving it. The driving experience for me is the immediacy of response which is so different from the C6 Corvette that I also still own. Everyone should own one of these cars at least once in their life.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%, I was a bit nervous about getting my Boxster, thinking it wouldn't be a fast car and therefore, I would get tired of it quickly. Not the case at all, it is such a great drivers car, I don't even care about the power. I just enjoy being behind the wheel!
@mattbuckley392
@mattbuckley392 Жыл бұрын
I have a 986 S 2003 and to be honest it's ridiculously good. I wasn't originally keen on the 'humble' Boxster but after driving one a few years ago looking for a car for my better half ... it blew my socks of and instead I bought one for myself. I also drove 987's which of course were also epic but I really wanted the first generation after really becoming engaged with it's looks and retro feel. I also really like the cabin and the way it sit's on the familiar 18 turbo twists from the previous generation of 911. The handling and steering is particularly staggering and the 258 bhp of the S is easily enough power but I reckon the car could take more it's that sure footed.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I was always hesitant with the first gen because I let the IMS bearing concerns really bother me, but after actually owning a Porsche, I wouldn't worry about it at all. They are such well made cars, the design is spectacular, and it really doesn't matter what trim you get, they are going to be great great driver's cars.
@michaellong2661
@michaellong2661 Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I remember seeing the concept car at the auto show. Then a few years later, I remember my dad and I watching every Boxster on the highway to see if they get the spoiler out. We both thought it was the coolest thing ever, watching people get up to speed from a toll booth and *ope* out comes the spoiler.
@mattbuckley392
@mattbuckley392 Жыл бұрын
@@michaellong2661 Yes ... I think the 986 has such a great rear end with it's curved smooth lines and of course it's party trick spoiler is indeed epic. I can remember when the 924 came out and when 944's starting driving around my village. Great cars in their own right but the 986 Boxster was a return to a new proper Porsche mindset being totally akin to the 550 and original 718.
@sebbach3747
@sebbach3747 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. Bought a 2002 Boxster S last year and love it. Can't wait to get the roof down this summer.
@mattbuckley392
@mattbuckley392 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the same for me Michael. I also saw the 924 and 944 start to be driven around my village in the late 70's and early 1980's. But I am a traditional Porsche fan leaning more towards the development and ethos of the 356 and 550 which of course is now the 911 and Boxster. So the same as you.
@MrJamesknot
@MrJamesknot Жыл бұрын
2003 Boxster tiptronic. 226k, still going strong! No ims replacement either.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing mate!
@pq5761
@pq5761 Жыл бұрын
The 986 is a great low cost entry into the used sports car market. I have a 2001 base model now but I've owned several.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I agreeeeee
@toads5217
@toads5217 Жыл бұрын
Yes; you nailed it. I had a somewhat negative opinion about the Boxster for years as I had never driven one. While shopping for an older 911, the dealer had a 987.1 base 5speed next to the 911 I was looking at. I took it for a test drive, then another test drive, and then dropped the top and drove it. I was sold, completely. The amount of awesome you get per dollar just can’t be beat. This is my 3rd year of ownership and I will be driving this car for years. I now have 94k miles on it and it doesn’t miss a beat while still getting looks from everyone from every generation.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I was the same way, I actually, believe it or not, was indifferent towards Porsche entirely...but driving one changed everything. Everyone says they are drivers cars, and they really are. You almost cannot appreciate them without getting behind the wheel. 94K miles, you still have plenty more to go! Thanks for sharing and watching!
@jeffwilkes5151
@jeffwilkes5151 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a Boxter and enjoyed your informative video.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you much! Hope you are able to pick up a car soon!
@pizza5647
@pizza5647 Жыл бұрын
Small little correction, at 3:00, the driver side air duct is the air intake. Cooling intake is in at the front bumper, as is the radiator. Passenger side duct actually does nothing at all, it’s just there for looks.
@t-dub74
@t-dub74 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 " 986 ". I've had it for 6 years and I absolutely love it ! It puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That is what Porsche is all about. Thanks for watching mate!
@uspaint
@uspaint 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Still have my 2000 boxster! Thinking of getting another one.
@richardszelc7028
@richardszelc7028 Жыл бұрын
Have a 1997 artic silver metallic with boxster red interior 5 speed manual with 43000 miles. Owned it for 5 going on 6 yrs now. Great ride fun to drive and not hard to work on.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That’s a beautiful color combination. That is not unlike the concept car color combo if I’m not mistaken…
@davidowen2859
@davidowen2859 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial That colour combination was the launch car. At the time I agonised over that or my Ocean blue. I still have all the origional brochures that were hard backed books and came in a metal presentation canister. Those were the days.
@peppperonii447
@peppperonii447 3 ай бұрын
6:34 the fact, that the mircrophone light, matches the beeping sound, is crazy
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 3 ай бұрын
I never noticed that, and now I can't stop watching my own video
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
Only one answer : Yes ! Do buy, they are cheap as chips, and they are great cars ! 😎👍
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Agreed mate!
@GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496
@GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496 Жыл бұрын
I bought my one owner 1999 Forest Green Metallic Boxster 19 years ago when it had 44K miles. Still driving it … it’s brilliant! Just rolled through 100,000 miles on the Odo. Black top/interior, manual transmission and sport classic wheels … perfect. Installed the LN Engineering Retrofit IMS bearing 12 years ago … so far, so good. PS: The headlight design is great … especially since nobody seemed to mind them on the GT1. The 986 is timeless.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Forest green metallic is one of my favorite colors for the 986!
@dion9146
@dion9146 Жыл бұрын
My daily driver is a 2002S Rain, snow or shine. Best car for the money on the road. Compared to my Wife’s 1999 M3 convertible, it feels light years ahead of the BMW and has held up much better.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon Жыл бұрын
I bought a well optioned speed yellow 2000 986 S NEW (yes, 23 years ago) and have put 75,000 miles on the car. Over the years I have made a few mods (most notably GT3 console delete and factory GT3 seats). I still love the car! It looks amazing and is just a blast to drive. So much fun. I may end up eventually adding another Porsche to the stable, but I intend to keep my 986 S for the long term.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Speed yellow is such a nice color! Mine is the same color, and I wouldn’t get rid of it. Especially if it’s your first Porsche, it would be like getting rid of your first born
@philrivera1413
@philrivera1413 Жыл бұрын
To answer the question….absolutely you should! 1998 986 owner here
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Very early year you got there! Thanks for sharing!
@philrivera1413
@philrivera1413 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial yep and sought it out specifically!
@sunset986S
@sunset986S Жыл бұрын
I've had my 2002 Boxster S now for 12 years and every time I take it out it feels like a go cart for adults...I feel like a kid again and at 72 that's saying a lot!
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
What you just described is what makes sports cars of this nature so important. They keep the kid in us alive. Thanks for watching, and sharing!
@geertterharmsel
@geertterharmsel Жыл бұрын
200k mile 986 here, very reliable
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing & watching!
@michaellong2661
@michaellong2661 Жыл бұрын
This past November, I got myself a birthday present: a 99 Boxster that didn't move. Ran, but wouldn't do anything when you released the clutch. Car is in similar shape to this one and had 99k miles, but only cost me $2500 delivered. Figured it was the clutch, but was prepared for a new trans if necessary. Fast forward a week, and I'd completed the most complicated auto repair I've ever done (previous was intake gaskets on a GM L67). Release clutch in reverse, and it moved. Total, including tools and other parts I've swapped out (blown speakers, frunk struts, other little things), I think I've got $3100 into it. Total. The interesting thing is that the maintenance stuff is a pain in the ass, BUT the big repairs are actually pretty damn easy compared to, say, a Ford Escape. Are these a good buy? Absolutely, I agree with everything in this video from experience. Only difference is that I don't have to give it back lol
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the car mate, enjoy it! I’m sure you will enjoy it more than most after putting your soul into that repair. For $3,100 that is a steal!
@ChrisLoew
@ChrisLoew 11 ай бұрын
bore scoring (in cold climates), IMS bearing, replacement soft top, three things you need to be aware of
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing mate!
@hellahandydutchman
@hellahandydutchman Жыл бұрын
Very solid opinion of a very solid car. I have a 1999 986 with 86k. Runs and drives perfect and has been very reliable. If you can do the maintenance your self it is very affordable too.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I love that you can put miles on them, you don’t have to have a car that only works as a bedroom wall poster, you can beat them up and they will still work, day after day.
@hellahandydutchman
@hellahandydutchman Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial Agreed.
@nornibres
@nornibres 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2009 987.2 Boxster 'S' with PDK. It was my first Porsche. I purchased a 986.2 2004 base Boxster with a manual last week. It doesn't have the power of the 987, but because of the manual it's a riot to drive, Each sound fantastic. I bought the best examples I could. Both came from my local Porsche dealership. I don't think you can go wrong with either. Thanks for the video.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 7 ай бұрын
That is a great duo to have! Having a manual isn't about speed its about engagement, and the Boxster S with PDK is a quick car!
@TheKissarmy79
@TheKissarmy79 Жыл бұрын
My 2003 2.7 is fantastic, 20 years old and so much fun
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching mate!
@thomasdelco2553
@thomasdelco2553 11 ай бұрын
I have a 2000 Boxster S with 39,000 miles. Still performs like new. When originally purchased in 2003 my research and comparison with the 911 made the mid engine Boxster a " NO- BRAINER" Awaiting the 25 year mark to be officially a classic. Love it, love it, love it.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Crazy to think the Boxster is officially classic now!
@zbroyc11
@zbroyc11 Жыл бұрын
2000 base with 18600, bought last year. Original IMS, original clutch. Original top. I upgraded the shifter. Great condition Awesome fun. My first Porsche.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
The car sounds like a gem, congratulations and welcome to the Porsche family mate. Thanks for sharing!
@johnfharvey
@johnfharvey Жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for that, confirms my thoughts. I have run my 2004 Boxster S 6 speed manual for about 5 yrs and love it still, very reliable. Deliberately looked for one with the IMS replaced. Bought for £6000. Even got like to the red interior preferred to the mustard of my first 2.7 Boxster. Great cars still affordable and not that bad to work on, once you get underneath or on top in service mode.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
They are such good cars, and once you get over the reality that you don't have to service it at the dealer, it really isn't too bad in terms of cost for ownership
@weejim48
@weejim48 Жыл бұрын
7 years ago I decided to treat myself to a Porsche. After a bit of research I narrowed my search to either the Cayman S or the Boxster S. I drove both. They were absolutely identical apart from 2 things. 1/ the Cayman is a coupe as opposed to the convertible Boxster. 2/ the Cayman was £5k dearer. So I bought the Boxster simply because you get more BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. Great to drive and not stupid money to maintain. 👍👍
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I came to the exact same decision. For what we use these cars for in the real world, the Boxster is just as good, if not slightly better than the cayman. The open top experience is not something you can describe with words, but it’s something truly special!
@joekelynack6493
@joekelynack6493 2 ай бұрын
My 2004 986 manual has 230xxx klms is still a lovey car mine is made in Finland build quality is amazing Hopefully my son can enjoy it
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Ай бұрын
That is the ultimate goal, pass it down to the next generation!
@NorfolkPartisan
@NorfolkPartisan 2 ай бұрын
Sold mine a couple of years back and miss it now. done 146k with no ims issues but the rear main seal had started to leak. now have electric and will be looking for another one for the weekends in the very near future as the electric has no real soul, especially compared to the growl of a 3.2 flat 6
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 2 ай бұрын
I think there will be a lot of people in the same boat pretty soon. The desire for the driving experience of an NA motor, a manual transmission, and old school sports car is growing as cars become more and more numb.
@esorroge
@esorroge Жыл бұрын
I got an 04 986 boxster with 51k miles I love it! Manual, tented, wrapped, radio swapped, headlights swapped. Only thing left is rear tail lights. ✨️ fantastic car ✨️
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Did you get the Porsche radio? Been waiting for them to release that for my car… Thanks for sharing mate! Enjoy the car!
@esorroge
@esorroge Жыл бұрын
@carcaveofficial No, it was not a Porsche radio. I wanted to give the interior the only form of face left I could think of, which came in the form of a Pioneer double din touch screen radio.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
If it works it works! Also probably costs $1000 less than the Porsche one and does the same thing lol
@scottkinnebrew7924
@scottkinnebrew7924 Жыл бұрын
I have owned and driven a ton of different Porsches. I most recently sold a 964 Carrera 2 Targa. Out of all the different Porsches I've owned the one I regret selling the most is a 2004 Boxster S 550 Spyder Edition. That car lives rent-free in my head. The simple reality is that it is the perfect formula for a sports car that is enjoyable for your average car guy on the street. It's not fussy, so it's always ready to go. Don't underestimate how important that is. The S model has the right amount of power for being able to thrash it around town and on some good twisties. Many sports cars today simply have too much power to be able to really thrash the car on the street. It's very light and tossable- and the handling reflects that perfect balance. It's deceptively beautiful. It's familiar and understated... but I still find myself captivated by it from certain angles. It seems every time I look at one these days, at some point I am surprised by how much I like looking at it. Ultimately though, IMO, the real secret that just makes it such an incredible joy to drive is a design feature that is likely to go completely unnoticed. It took me a long time of reflecting back on why I missed this car so much to realize it. And only then after driving it back to back with a 987 Boxster S. It has a very low beltline. When you are sitting in the car, the door sill sits well below your shoulder. In the 987 and later, the door sill back even with your head is at your shoulder (or even above in later models). The 986 has a feeling of openness and connectedness to the whole driving experience that is unmatched by any other car I have ever driven. It's just the right amount of every ingredient needed. It's the perfect recipe.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the passion you put into it. The 986 is a brilliant platform, from an era where driving was the focus. Car's today are lost in the numbers, more power, more torque, faster 0-60, and the product is cars that are inherently less connected. Like you said, you notice it most when you do drive a proper drivers car. Thanks for sharing, hope you stick around and enjoy the rest of our content!
@leol1243
@leol1243 10 ай бұрын
I have a 1998 986. It's in near mint condition. I am very happy with it and would not get rid of it. The newer cars are not built as well as the older ones. I also don't feel I need to upgrade. Others tell me to trade it up, but I feel it's plenty of power and a blast to drive. It also has that classic Porsche look which I love. I would tell people looking to buy one make sure you get a car fax and buy from a reputable person. More money in the beginning will save you in costly repairs later on..
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
Great advice! I feel the same way about mine. I drive new Porsche's and they are great, but I don't feel compelled to 'upgrade' because I don't feel like it will be much of an upgrade at all.
@MrTheosusi
@MrTheosusi 6 ай бұрын
1997 here with 50k miles! Amazing driver’s car and reliable.. worth every pennt
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 6 ай бұрын
Original owner?
@justin2024atlas
@justin2024atlas Жыл бұрын
We ❤ our 98. It’s been a great car to win & drive.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Put those miles on!
@jeffamburgey7485
@jeffamburgey7485 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I have a red 01 5 speed that I've owned for several years. 1 owner 30k very good condition car when I bought it. It now has 46k and has been stone reliable, and although I paid up for a nice example, the best car dollar for dollar I've ever owned. We still love it, it is a ball to drive, and I would trust it to go anywhere. Not the most powerful car, but magnificent underrated driver and a very happy car above 4000 rpms.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Your Boxster sounds brilliant, honestly, you don't ever really 'need' a faster car. Fast cars are great, but having a lot of fun in a really fast car can be nerve inducing and usually involves breaking the law. With our cars, older Boxsters, you can push the car, have a blast, and nobody needs to get hurt.
@MattSomethingOrOther
@MattSomethingOrOther Жыл бұрын
*its 2023 and I just bought one!* Couldnt be happier
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Congrats mate!
@profclivesmallman
@profclivesmallman Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 2.7l in classic Porsche grey. 85,000km. It had the big transmission service a couple of years back and needed a new gear change controller. Other than that, it’s a blast.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching 🙏
@wesleycarusos8225
@wesleycarusos8225 Жыл бұрын
I have the S6 speed with a few mods and it's plenty fast enough and I also have a 996.2 I actually like the interior better on the 986 than The 987.. I have done the IMs bearing and the headlights
@tfleiter
@tfleiter 10 ай бұрын
My first Boxster was a 1999 which was simply great for many years - before it was totaled (….not by me). I really enjoyed driving it as it felt completely analog. No fancy electronic helpers at work. Clearly a car for “purists” and the engine is literally screaming just behind you. I actually preferred the seating position in the 986 compared to the newer ones…way more “in the wind” in the 986.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
That era of sport cars was so much better. Not as refined maybe, not as luxurious, not as comfortable, but far better sport cars.
@davidshaw164
@davidshaw164 Жыл бұрын
I believe the 986 actually came out before the 996, the 996 borrowed from the 986
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
You are correct, the 996 911 was released in 1999. My mistake!
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. A very often forgotten aspect of automotive history.
@K1dPhresh1
@K1dPhresh1 Жыл бұрын
I kinda thought the same thing but wasn’t 100% sure
@FrederickRH1
@FrederickRH1 Жыл бұрын
Great information on these Porsches.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope you found it enjoyable!
@K1dPhresh1
@K1dPhresh1 Жыл бұрын
Great videos!! Very composed and professional. Kind of a breathe of fresh air compared to a lot of the KZbinrs out there! Sub’d! Keep up the good work, especially with the P-car content.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That’s very kind of you mate! I’m obsessed with Porsche so for sure more P-cars to come!
@alman-world
@alman-world Жыл бұрын
You can get them super cheap - I picked up one with a VERY loud clanking sound - that the vendor/seller thought was bearing noise. I paid about $2,000 for it - as we all know rebuilding any Porsche engine (even yourself) is a real arm and leg proposal. I tinkered for a few weeks, and it ended up being a stuck exhaust valve. Once freed and carbon deposits removed....................its running just fine. Was going to repower, so at least now I have a good engine to on sell 🙂
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got a real bargain find there! Thanks for sharing and watching!
@Kaws4u
@Kaws4u Жыл бұрын
Good tip, if buying one (ofc used no durr) be sure to get one with some miles on it (not too much) as chances are IMS and RMS issues were already fixed. However a low mileage boxster ain’t a bad way to go just be sure to budget some money aside for its eventual IMS failure and clutch replacement. And finally no matter the mileage, have it brought to a European Oriented Mechanic and have an inspection done, it’ll be worth the 150-200 something dollars in the long run (this applies to all used cars that come from private sellers)
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I agree, based on my findings, higher mileage cars are a safer bet. Also, you will feel less bad about putting miles on a car that already has them compared to a low mileage museum quality car.
@tdhyig5045
@tdhyig5045 9 ай бұрын
Great info. Thank you
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@lunabouch
@lunabouch Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2000 two years ago with 57,000 miles and it’s been wonderful.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That is super low miles, congrats. Enjoy it!
@scoobydooz6575
@scoobydooz6575 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 3.2S Manual 6 speed with full service history and there's no record of the IMS being upgraded, so I assume its on the original at 89k
@ryanmcgovern1322
@ryanmcgovern1322 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy near me who has one, Im pretty sure it doesnt run, but if I can own a porsche at 22 that i can put work into then by all means im going to buy it
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
For the right price, not a bad idea!
@woomino1246
@woomino1246 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful car. Got mine as a gift a while ago from a car graveyard and spent a big sum of money at the time (10k euros or something) to restore it, many people told me it was a stupid decision to spend so much money, however that was the best investment I ever did
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Some people told me that my Boxster was a stupid decision too, if it makes you happy and you can afford it, that's all that matters mate. Thanks for watching!
@woomino1246
@woomino1246 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial Boxster is one of the last good looking porsches out there, and is really affordable also, personally after Cayman S came around most of the newer models started to look really bad...shame people kind of forgot about boxster and 924 and some other classic models when the newer models came out
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
The 928 is never talked about, and I think that car is brilliant to look at, and really a different direction for Porsche that I wish they explored more. Who knows, maybe in the future!
@woomino1246
@woomino1246 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial 928's are kinda rare, however I know someone who straight up offered me his keys to a Porsche 944 for free just cuz the transmission failed and because he doesn't want to reapair it due to the "ugliness" of the back car lights...
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
TAKE IT!
@thevictorylife702
@thevictorylife702 Жыл бұрын
Question for you all - for someone looking to buy their first Porsche (Boxster specifically), which model (or trim) do you suggest?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I think your budget is going to be a big factor, and what you are really looking for. If all you want is a fun sports car for the weekend, a base or an S would be perfect.
@Wutse
@Wutse Жыл бұрын
i was looking into buying a low milage (Kilometers here in belgium) but prices are soaring up over here , finding an early one 1997 - 2001 with lets say 120.000 -150.000 km's , in good original condition puts you back 14.000 - 18.000 euro's right now
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I think that is only going to increase, especially with Porsche getting rid of the petrol powered Boxster & Cayman...
@sununtaschnittker6469
@sununtaschnittker6469 9 ай бұрын
The early 986's do not really have an IMS problem. My 1998 has over 120k miles and I cut the oil filter open and pull the pan as well each time I change oil, no specks of silver to be found thank goodness. If I won the lottery I'd change the IMS to the best available but will not until then. I notice the test car is missing the top inside headliner and the two plastic many tiny holes grills that go into the roll bar hoops. Not sure if the grills have any function other than cosmetic, not having them might affect the sound of the wind at high speed. The grills see decades of sunshine and it makes the plastic VERY brittle so they break VERY easily. Replacements are over $50 each from Porsche so a lot of folks just don't replace them.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 8 ай бұрын
I believe the early IMS design was a single row, later changed to two smaller dual row bearings, and to the best of knowledge the dual row was more prone to failure, so I agree. Earlier models are the better bet!
@Luukkuulluuk
@Luukkuulluuk 7 ай бұрын
Other way around, the 986’s up to the year 2000 use dual row bearings
@richarddamico9894
@richarddamico9894 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1998 2.5 and I really enjoy it! I like the look of the interior, I did upgrade to the PCCM+, which is also a great option
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I love the PCCM+, I can’t wait until they offer it for the 987.2
@richarddamico9894
@richarddamico9894 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial I believe they have one for your car now!
@mattbuckley392
@mattbuckley392 Жыл бұрын
I agree .... the pccm looks to be an awesome bit of kit and also demonstrates Porsche's own thought's on making sure the new wave of classic vehicles remain functionally usable yet maintaining the authentic looks.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Not quite.....they have it for the 987.1 from what I could see, not yet for the 987.2. But Soon!
@marcusbeau
@marcusbeau Жыл бұрын
97 boxster tiptronic spec, torque heaven
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Haven't driven the tiptronic, hoping to one day soon!
@cripplermaximus
@cripplermaximus Жыл бұрын
I want a 986 for a weekend, summer car. My left ankle doesn’t allow me to drive a manual these days, but I’m hoping that saves me money when i look for an auto. Lol.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
It should save you money, I’ve noticed automatics are cheaper than manuals, and for a fun weekend convertible, you really can’t go wrong!
@cripplermaximus
@cripplermaximus Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial exactly. I just want a slick looking cruiser. I’ve had super fast motorcycles, so I got that speed out of my system. I just want something zippy that handles great. You make solid content, bud!
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
If that is what you are looking for the Boxster is a great option! Thanks for the kind words!
@bruniau
@bruniau 6 ай бұрын
You know their is a lever on the left side of the driver seat that will lower the seat, isay that because(well you did not say how tall you are) but i am six two and weight about two twenty and am sort of long legged and have absolutly no issue with head room or leg room. I love my 986, honestly did not think i would fall so hard for it.
@antonymcmanus8182
@antonymcmanus8182 11 ай бұрын
I'm on my 2nd 986, great cars but, hate the shap of the lights!
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching mate! 2nd one, that's crazy! If that doesn't tell the world they are great, I don't know what will.
@charleslewis564
@charleslewis564 Жыл бұрын
My concern is about doing maintenance and getting parts, i some what handy and can follow directions on KZbin. I located a Boxster s, not running, wanting to pull the trigger on the deal? Any comments
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on why it’s not running….
@TakeFlightGarage
@TakeFlightGarage Жыл бұрын
Can’t ignore that the video is 9:44… can’t ignore the 944 either ;)
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
It’s a sign, maybe a future video of a 944 is on the horizon?
@TakeFlightGarage
@TakeFlightGarage Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial I'd love to see one! I'll sub just incase so that I don't miss out should the day come.
@Wantobe123
@Wantobe123 Жыл бұрын
I am curious the real difference in noticeable power gains between the 2.5 and 2.7. I’ve heard minimal because of the cars gearing. Thanks ahead!
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I am really not sure to be honest, but like you said, I would imagine it is not a noticeable difference.
@Wantobe123
@Wantobe123 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial Thanks. Anyone else please chime in.
@waltvancourt5052
@waltvancourt5052 9 ай бұрын
I went with the jag xk8 convertable over this model,, and a S2000 as they both seemed to me just too small and liked the looks of the xk8 more. But I was also new to sports cars and new nothing about porsche cars back then.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 9 ай бұрын
I love the look of Jag's and the S2000 is an amazing sports car! I just don't fit in it lol
@sholehan
@sholehan Жыл бұрын
Sat in car from late 90s early 00's - "The buttons are very late 90s early 00s" . A bit like slating an MGB for having buttons from the 60s and 70s.
@outrunninginflation4081
@outrunninginflation4081 11 ай бұрын
Certainly tempted. How expensive is the major service? Is it at 80,000 miles? Are the belts expensive to replace?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
If your intention is to have the car serviced at the dealership, then I would brace yourself for a service bill with quite a few digits. But if you are willing to source the parts yourself, and either find an independent shop that you trust, or venture through the KZbin tutorials, then I think affording this car will be manageable. Don't get me wrong, it'll still be more than your average Toyota or Honda, but not something that is impossible to afford on a budget.
@aloemodes3600
@aloemodes3600 5 ай бұрын
How tall are you considering you have to adjust your leg when pressing the clutch
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 5 ай бұрын
I am 6'2"
@TurdKutter
@TurdKutter Жыл бұрын
i weekend a 986 i got from my mom only has 94k on the dash im looking to get rid of my a6 for the 987.5
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
The 987.2 is a great choice. It probably won’t be as luxurious as the A6, but it’ll be wayyyyyy more fun
@RikardoKroket
@RikardoKroket Жыл бұрын
Hi i just subscribed. I have Porsche 986 its going very good, and im going all in at Autobahn🙂🙂🙂
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Come back here and comment how fast you got!
@marvinmehr
@marvinmehr Жыл бұрын
I have a 99 986 with 100k and love it.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing man! Thanks for sharing and watching!
@raymonheath1436
@raymonheath1436 2 ай бұрын
Over the last 10 years i have thought 3 times about buying a porsche boxter and cayman, the first timel bought an slk 200 19
@peterk4123
@peterk4123 8 ай бұрын
If you want to enjoy a Boxster … you drive it open!! Agree, 986 is an iconic timeless design. Fried-eggs are a design-statement ;-) I bought my 986 2.5 in 1999 and still own it. Ratio of driving-smiles to cost-of-ownership is unbeatable.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 8 ай бұрын
If the car is paid off, the cost of ownership really isn't too bad!
@poisonarrow0631
@poisonarrow0631 2 ай бұрын
About the room left for your head, how tall are you lol ? I'm 6'4 and want to make sure I fit in before buying one.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 2 ай бұрын
I am 6'2"!
@lifehackertips
@lifehackertips 8 ай бұрын
Porsche changed the gearing in 2000 for the 986.2 and made the manuals much slower. You really need to drive a 986.1, it's a big difference.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 8 ай бұрын
I was not aware, I'll have to check it out!
@thatguymichaelhtx
@thatguymichaelhtx Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏽
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Glad you liked it 🙏
@kellynash4588
@kellynash4588 Жыл бұрын
Love my 986.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Feel free to share you spec! Color? Manual or auto? Mileage?
@kellynash4588
@kellynash4588 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial 1998 Finland built 36k mi. Base. Black on black. 9.0 condition. Stock 17s on MP Sports. Love taking her into mountain twisties!!! Not loosing any sleep over my dual row IMS.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That is low mileage! Car sounds pristine, thanks for sharing!
@袁誠鴻-y9u
@袁誠鴻-y9u Жыл бұрын
986 is the best looking boxster , if you know how to mod it.
@nicolamisurati9908
@nicolamisurati9908 Жыл бұрын
How would you mod it?
@袁誠鴻-y9u
@袁誠鴻-y9u Жыл бұрын
Full under panel diffusers , wide body kit simulator to RWB , roll cage , sequential gearbox and huge GT wing make it a full on time attack car.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I love that idea. Do it, and reach out to me so we can do a video reviewing it!
@kevinkattrup7225
@kevinkattrup7225 Жыл бұрын
Seen one with 122.000 km, for 120.000dkk=18.070USD, is that worth it for a first car?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Tough to say, it depends on so many different factors. But I would check it out, drive it, see if you like it before anything
@kevinkattrup7225
@kevinkattrup7225 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial thank you, will try and look into if i can get the chance
@marcomuiretta362
@marcomuiretta362 10 ай бұрын
I truly love these unfortunately not sure I at 6'5 can fit in it and drive
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
I am 6'2" and have that problem with a lot of cars. It is depressing.
@marcomuiretta362
@marcomuiretta362 10 ай бұрын
@carcaveofficial almost like they higher dwarfs to design cars some large pickups are the same
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
It isn't large, but I wanted a Tacoma once upon and time, and I can't comfortably fit in that either. The biggest let down for me was the original NSX. I love that car, and want one more than my liver, but I can't fit.
@marcomuiretta362
@marcomuiretta362 10 ай бұрын
@@carcaveofficial imagine trying to fit in a ferarri 308gts not only is there no head/leg room but the peddles are angled to wear you can't drive it if your really tall
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 10 ай бұрын
But for a Ferrari, I'll just remove my knees.
@gunstick711anims9
@gunstick711anims9 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you? I’m looking to buy one soon and want to know how the dimensions are.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I am 6'2"
@YellowFlashOfTheLeag
@YellowFlashOfTheLeag Жыл бұрын
I'm also 6'2", but my left leg needs to be in a bit angled position in order to press the clutch. How do you set up the driver seat? @carcave
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I have to angle my leg as well, the steering wheel does not adjust quite far enough out to release the clutch straight. I have the seat as far back and far down as possible.
@Slo_Nano
@Slo_Nano Жыл бұрын
how much would you say is a good price for one of these? I know they're kinda cheap but still curious to know if I can get for cheaper
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
It depends on a lot of factors, mileage, condition, trim (do you want a base or an S), transmission, etc. For a car with decent mileage (around 100K) manual, as a base, I would try and stay around the $10-$12K mark. Give or take a bit. Go too low, and you will likely have a car with some cosmetic issues, go too high and I just don't think its worth it if you plan on driving the car and putting miles on it. Just my two cents of course, others might feel differently.
@frenchbeluga7055
@frenchbeluga7055 Жыл бұрын
I’m 16 looking for a car I have a very good paying job and I just need something to ride but I want reliability and don’t wanna waste my good savings
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Well, first off well done having a good paying job at 16. In my opinion, and again, this is just my opinion, I wouldn't buy a Porsche if you are on a budget. They aren't expensive to own, but at the same time, they aren't going to be as cheap as a typical daily driver either (Civic, Camry, etc), at least not if you want to maintain it right. If it were me? I would buy a good, cheap, reliable daily for the time being, and when you have some 'extra' play money, the Boxster is a great entry level Porsche at an attractive price point. Just my 2 cents mate.
@frenchbeluga7055
@frenchbeluga7055 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial alright I’ll keep this in check when browsing thx man
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
For sure!
@ChokolateSushi23
@ChokolateSushi23 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you? I’m 6’3” 225lbs and Im wondering if Id have trouble fitting
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I am 6'2, the steering wheel might saw into your lap a bit...I'd find one and try it out!
@IrvingPiedra-kn7dd
@IrvingPiedra-kn7dd 5 ай бұрын
So I just came across a 2.7L I6 5 speed manual 2001 for $8,000 good deal? Anyone?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 5 ай бұрын
How many miles? What color? Clean title? How many owners?
@VinceWatches
@VinceWatches Жыл бұрын
I own a 986 2.5 1997 for more than 10 years now. I just have to replace the clutch (145 000km) for the rest it is a super experience, power adapted to today's speed repression and wonderful chassis (I have the M30 OEM option). Only minor point is the weak convertible electric mechanism. Highly recommended as an entry point to the classic Porsche world.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing mate! That electric mechanism is something I worry about on my Boxster, just hoping it breaks before my warranty is out lol
@BananaRainbows
@BananaRainbows Жыл бұрын
So the ims bearing isn’t a big deal ? Is the 8% statistic exaggerated ?
@jaredbritt554
@jaredbritt554 Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on getting one with around 150k on it or in that ball park. When you said the IMS isn't something to much to be worried about. If you can could you clear that up for me a bit better?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Sure, first off, keep in mind I am by no means a professional mechanic, I am just an enthusiast, so my opinion literally means nothing....BUT that being said, from the research that I have done, it seems that IMS bearing failures tend to happen early on. It seems like it is more of a defect in certain bearings as opposed to a defective design entirely. That being the case, if a car made it to 150K miles, it probably doesn't have a defective bearing. All that being said, I would still consult a Porsche mechanic and 100% do not take my word on it.
@larrypowers2553
@larrypowers2553 Жыл бұрын
Got a question how tall are you I'm thinking about getting one just wondering how I'll fit I'm 6 foot 5
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I am 6’2”, so it might be a bit of a squeeze…but I would go drive one for sure. The biggest problem I had with some of the earlier cars, that prompted me to get a 987.2 was the steering wheel would saw off my legs. It’s more forgiving in the later cars
@larrypowers2553
@larrypowers2553 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial thanks for the feed back man I'm gonna go test drive one sat I've been wondering about how I would fit and I noticed you looked like a tall guy tall guy problems lol
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
It such a frustrating crutch. So many cars that we will never properly fit in. The worst disappointment was sitting in the first generation NSX...couldn't make it work otherwise I would have got one just before they shot up...
@marioxdr
@marioxdr Жыл бұрын
am buying one just to convert it to a gt3 rs
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting build....I would be very interested to see it when you are done!
@marioxdr
@marioxdr Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial if you wait one more year I'll be uploading about it. But first I need to get the car.
@SibRevs
@SibRevs Жыл бұрын
What kind of equipment do you use for sound and video?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
For video I use a standard dslr, nothing fancy. For sound, I recommend I started with a Rode lav microphone, but more recently have been trying out the DJI Mic, they seem to be working quite well.
@plus790
@plus790 Жыл бұрын
To not even mention the 3.2 liter S?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Maybe in a future video?….
@alxmnslv
@alxmnslv 11 ай бұрын
how tall are you?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 11 ай бұрын
6' 2"
@clivebrackstone1896
@clivebrackstone1896 Жыл бұрын
Dnt bother... get a 987 and dnt worry about the ims failure
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
The 987.2 is a brilliant car, it is quite a bit more expensive though. If you do not want to dish out the extra money, and have the patience to do your research and diligence on a 986, I think it can be a great, affordable way into Porsche ownership
@abourge12
@abourge12 Жыл бұрын
thats it... im buying it with a tailfin....
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
You should, and when you do, come back to the comment section of this video and share your spec with everyone!
@abourge12
@abourge12 Жыл бұрын
@@carcaveofficial roger captain
@mrporsche4236
@mrporsche4236 Жыл бұрын
Ive owned a 986 and driven almost every porsche. The 986 is not good at all. I do not recommend buying one. They look good and a better buy then the 911 but a waste of money.
@dk2853
@dk2853 Жыл бұрын
These are looking awful tempting the way Miata prices are going. I'm seeing Boxster S models under 10k.
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
I agree, Miata's are great little cars, but they are becoming wayyyy to expensive. Meanwhile, these Boxster's are maintaining some very attractive price points.
@peterk4123
@peterk4123 8 ай бұрын
The seats in this car have been re-done. (pretty ugly seams)
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if they were, I was just grateful the owner let me use it for a video!
@alextreeman7964
@alextreeman7964 Жыл бұрын
4 algo
@raymonheath1436
@raymonheath1436 2 ай бұрын
Slk 200 2003, the second time l bought an slk 350 2009 and the third time i bought an slk 350 2012. Every one of my slk's was far better value than the equivalent porsche, more reliable, andin every case l got a coupe and a sports car drop top in the same car and i will never understand why so many people lust after the porsche when the slk is simply a better car to own and drive, yes i have driven the porsches, i find them seriously over rated by comparison on paper and behind the wheel.
@LOTPOR0402
@LOTPOR0402 Жыл бұрын
Silly headline ,why bother buying any classic ?
@carcaveofficial
@carcaveofficial Жыл бұрын
Because classics are amazing....
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