Should YOU buy old wagons? Comparing old and new Hornby wagons

Here’s me comparing wagons.
To newer the question in the title- yeah of course
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[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Just not 21 years different is it….. lol Point still stands!

[@lukenoble3319]

I think Airfix pioneered the slim line tension lock style coupling but this wasn't widely adopted and refined until the early 2000s (like the og bachmann 20s/08s etc) to give a more finescale look to the larger D locks. Would definitely recommend older tooling wagons though, like you say how much detail on new wagons is actually visible though EFE seems to have got the balance right with the bloater wagons.

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Yeah I agree that efe are finding balance. Like Oxford rail did

[@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge]

I tend to appreciate stock (or locos) that are a bit older, paying a fraction of the price and if I spend a bit of time adding loads or weathering it’s virtually impossible to tell the difference over new stuff from a couple of feet away. Close up camera shots are a give away but at the end of the day it’s never going to be totally convincing, close enough is good enough for me 👍

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Like the thinking- I agree from a distance that match up and with work close up they can too!

[@ausfoodgarden]

Yes, the older stuff is fine after a few mods and a bit of weathering for me. I'd much rather have a long rake of older models compared to a few high detail new ones.

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Ditto! Plus you get the fun of detailing them!

[@CZ350tuner]

If one wants detail, the old 1980's Peco "Wonderful Wagons" kits were the best. They had working suspension springs, as did the buffers. I have one on my layout, which I've had since the 1990's.

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Springs sound fun- might have to try one of them!

[@colwichjunction3366]

Great vid, I’ve been avoiding buying older Hornby MGR wagons only because of the huge tension lock couplings… There’s nothing wrong with the older wagons once they’re weathered up, yes the newer stuff from Accurascale/Cavalex are impressive, but I honestly don’t get drawn to them in a long rake when running on the layout??? Can you change the older “D” tension locks be changed out for anything more up to date? Cheers John b

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

There’s conversion kits that re 3D printed that I have used for the project that I bet would fit. Like you said beyond 5 feet can you see a difference- I’m not sure

[@johnland7318]

Its only if you are a P4 or EM modeller, are you bothered about superfine details, OO wagons just have a suggestion of the brakes under the model. Its of course made so that it can be Played With by kids, rather than handled very carefully. One problem that using any age or make of models & all mixed up is the coupling height can be miss matched or the couplings are missing! Personally I like the challenge of improving the coupling or fitting a NEM pocket. Weighting each wagon to 25g per axle really improves the ride, reduces derailing during points or shunting

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Exactly it’s the best but if the hobby in my opinion- is the detailing! 25grams is a good target too

[@CZ350tuner]

OO plastic bodied model railway wagons have come along since the first Trackmaster 7 plank open wagon and goods van appeared on the market, back in 1949. They made Trix and Hornby Dublo's lithographed tin plate wagons seem crap, by comparison.

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

The March of progress isn’t it! Good weight though I bet’

[@AdiPullen]

Hi Oliver I hope you are For me they nothing wrong with older tooled rolling stock especially if you are on budget. I have grafar rolling stock from the 70s run just as great as rolling stock On today models they too much details which are bit costly in my opinion Half the details you are not going to see it. Wonderfully video well made. Keep safe ARP

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Like your thinking bud!

[@crusader-t7s]

The background music is not needed. It is distracting from the interesting narration.

[@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011]

Thanks for the input! What did you think of the rest of the video?

[@crusader-t7s]

@@heaptoncollierymodelrailwa6011 very good l like the detail you went into.