🛑 Should YOU Buy The 5080 or 5090?? 👑

[@Quarternewt]

Only the flagship matters now. People need to stop getting their hopes up that Nvidia will give them an exciting mid-range product.

[@commandershepard9920]

I mean, the '80 series card I wouldn't even exactly call 'mid-range'.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

Nvidia right now is in planned obsolescence mode. Get gamers to buy shitty, overpriced mid-range products, make sure they do not scale well with new games and have 0 longevity, then lock them out of software updates (single frame gen, multi frame gen) to make them buy into the next gen. Rinse and repeat. Gamers getting farmed rn.

[@thelith]

​​@@commandershepard9920 it kinda is when it barely competes with last gen. Mid rang performance for high end price. Good times.

[@JimmyChino55]

@@commandershepard9920 the 5080 has 50% the spec of the 5090 so its definitely mid.

[@SocratesWasRight]

@@JimmyChino55 Yeah, the gap between 5090 and 5080 is atrocious. The whole upper midrange is missing in this gen.

[@reloadingdontshoot1]

In short, skip the 50 series if you have a 40 series card. If you have a 20/30 series card, get a 40 series card for cheaper

[@migz2195]

Except choosing between a 4080 or a 5080 both at 1k id rather go with a 5080.

[@Trip4man]

That's been happening for the last 2-3 generations.... And it's not that simple! Because you get a more EFFICIENT card!!! Meaning, you consume LESS Watts for about the same performance. And if you game everyday, for 4hours, consuming minus ~20 Watts... That's like ~30kW that you SAVE on your electric bill in a year. Now idk how much is a kW in USA... But either way... It's a LOT. Kind of a lot.... THIS is what GPU manufacturers have been doing basically

[@eawblablatron9161]

After the frame fakeness I have serious doubts about the 4090 as well.

[@meknowu1]

I'm just going to stick with my 3080 and no fake frames

[@mimu9599]

@@Trip4man Hrhr...Living in Germany with the highest Power-Prices worldwide - this would be 100 bucks a year when you game 24/7.....without sleep/repeate

[@tornyakvonvlashic8951]

I bought a new 3060 12GB ASUS TUF for 280 EUR a few days ago, a NY sale, and now I have the best GPU in my whole town of 8000 people (where 1660 TI guy was the talk of the town when he got it).... If I bought 5080, peeps would come to my place with pitchforks and would burn me at the stake....just sayin'

[@CRF250R1521]

😂

[@Chris-u7r9x]

You are joking right😢

[@tommypearson9260]

My guy being treated like Nosferatu over here 🤣🤌🏾

[@Wobbothe3rd]

What happened to "wait until you've tested it yourself"!?

[@FrameChasers]

Click farming

[@dolpoof2335]

Well the reviews for the 5080 were moved until Jan 30, the same day when it launches to the public, so for now we will only get to see testing for the 5090 beforehand.

[@KiNg0fShReD]

@@dolpoof2335They updated it, the MSRP 5080 reviews come out the 29th. the Third party partner reviews for the 5080 will be the 30th.

[@Billy_bSLAYER]

Are you fuckin serious?? ​@@dolpoof2335

[@Healthy_Toki]

What if we could just extrapolate numbers from an unmarked graph and assume they're true then spend dozens of hours making content about it to farm engagement? What then huh?

[@Hahahanoyes]

The 5080 will be FAR BETTER than 5-6% faster than the 4080. Efficiency across the board improvements with even more cores, SM’s and watts will be a decent bump. 20-25% bump no doubt.

[@Maj-Fox]

Nvidia own tests show only 15% tho

[@tommypearson9260]

No Bro, it's 5% if anything this trend has been going on forever. same thing with the 4080 vs 4080s literally people swore it was going to be a monster nope barley did 1fps better this card will be 4-5 fps better than a 4080s you will be very sad trust.

[@rrbb5687]

It'll be around 12.5% on average, the same as the TDP increase just like the 5090 Vs 4090.

[@Lfunk1983]

The vram is higher performance

[@wethepeople3670]

Just wanna say thank you for your honest content.👌

[@FrameChasers]

Thank you for the super thanks man, this channel is only possible because of you 🙏

[@bigpoppa1234]

I'm going for a 5080 from a 3080, it's been 4 and a half years. Every two or three generations is the intelligent move. If people want to upgrade every gen then power to them but everyone knows that's overkill for pretty much anyone who is happy at lower settings or smaller res.

[@theoriginalmurphy5015]

Same I have 3080 ti skipped the 40 series & getting a 5080 🔥

[@HybridEnergy]

Bro, I'll be going for a 5080 also but from a 1080 ti. lol

[@PakapolJaijong]

i have 3080 but i could have already enjoyed the experience I can get from 5080 if i bought 4080 2 years ago , there is no real difference in performance, but the time i wasted , waited to play RDR2/Ghost Of Sushima at 4k over 60fps.. this is the worst generation imo, we are almost like Toyota yearly upgrade(nothing but looks) or iPhone/Samsung year by year upgrade ...

[@HybridEnergy]

@@PakapolJaijong There is no benchmarks for 5080 yet,

[@PakapolJaijong]

@ it’s linear this time mate, 5090 is +30% cores for 30% perf uplift of 4090, 5080 is 10% more of 4080 super, that is very minimal and I could have gotten Gigabyte 4080 super in UK for £999 as well, with 5080 will be £1200 definitely or impossible to get at £1000 so my point stands : I could have enjoyed the games with same price/ performance since 2022 with 4080, or now seemingly bang for the buck 4k card £1699 Msi suprim i was close to buying in early 2024

[@petroBOOM1N]

3080 upgrade to a 5090.. got it 😂

[@Serandi1987]

Withy my 4090 max uv I don't even get the limits at all on my LG OLED C1 65 inches using DLSS Quality! I don't use raytracing or pathtracing at all even if I could I turn it off because the energy consumption is much lower and the performance is better! 😅

[@obmanchik4965]

That's would de like 2.6x of your performance if your cpu powerful enough

[@friesenmax2541]

From 3090 🎉

[@andrewfessler7203]

Lol I can do you one better. EVGA 2080 FTW3 Ultra to Asus 5090 Astral! "If I can even get one" But! its the goal! I would have gone with EVGA 5090 but we all know what happened :(

[@petroBOOM1N]

@@andrewfessler7203 I still dream about an EVGA comeback

[@eklypse13]

sure i will give them 2k for a 5090 but 3 of every 4 bills will be ai generated just like their frames.

[@Frk12]

It wont stay @ 2k

[@xlinnaeus]

Well well well, look who got it exactly right again!

[@MrWildfire92]

1:15 They are most definitely going to make some kind of 5090 TI or Titan. The cards are getting refreshed at some point in the future with larger Ram modules one of the slides was talking about the complete die for blackwell and it had all better stats then the 5090, 125tflops shader, larger memory bandwidth, 25% more ai power and modest benefit to RT performance. They most assuredly have a better card out there completely ready to make once the time is ready

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

Same deal with the 4090. Turned out they didn't launch it, probably because they didn't need to. A 5090 Ti though would need a new power solution, a single 600w power connector will not cut it.

[@centuriometello565]

A nother M ajor D isappointment Uncle Jensen doesn't have to

[@SlowHardware]

This makes me feel better about my 2080 TI Strix lmao, followed some advice on an earlier build video about the value of it and I'm loving it 😁 thanks Jufes!

[@ZackSNetwork]

He was wrong on that part. A 3070ti matches a 2080ti. Both of them get blown away by a 3080. The 3090 was not even that much faster than a 3080. The biggest difference was the 24gb vram.

[@SlowHardware]

@ZackSNetwork even still it's decent

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@SlowHardwareYeah it’s still a solid GPU. Unlike the 3070ti it’s 11gbs of VRAM gives it more life.

[@SlowHardware]

@ZackSNetwork 100% man

[@sprocket5526]

With bells and whistles turned of 2080ti with with 11gigs of ram should be OK ish for then generation. My 8 gig 2070, not so much.

[@deagt3388]

That's what I've been telling but you are the only one that speaks truth among youtubers! ;-)

[@FellTheSky]

Thanks for defending the truth brother.

[@maveric19871]

It is not a truth, it is a miscalculation. He just basically said that new 5000 series is super super edition of native 4000 series. 5080 will be massively faster than 4080S. 5070Ti also, the 5070Ti for sure will be quicker than 4080. Memory doesnt scale like he said. It is just soo bad comparison. If that would be true the GPU would have 512bit bus and 10Gbps they would not pay extra money for GDDR6 or 6X, they would just use GDDR5. Dont want to say anything bad here. But hes statement is far away from the reality. RT gen 3 vs gen2 were substantially faster, here will be less gains but still you can count somewhat 15-20% IPC increase of RT cores

[@maveric19871]

For mining yes 20Gbps 128bits = 10Gbps 256bits but not for gaming. In the same way quad channel 1600mhz cl 12 vs dual channel 3200mhz cl12, for some programms might be the same not for gaming as you understand

[@tommypearson9260]

@@maveric19871 The only real upgrade was the AI encoder for the most part those extra cuda cores don't mean much the 5090 will legit be about 15fps better than a 4090 and a OC'ed 4090 to max might touch 5090 at stock

[@maveric19871]

​@@tommypearson9260 ​​ok ok, u have right to have your own opinion. I predict that in heavy RT where actually people would want to play anyway, there will be about 50% FPS increase over 4090, especially after oc. 😅

[@demon0.5]

im on a 1080ti ftw 3 yall. im building an entirely new pc so should i just get a 4090 or a 50 series card

[@JohnWalsh2019]

Depends on prices and performance. Personally I want to see the benchmarks before making a decision on buying new vs. used or just staying put for now.

[@quiknezz1621]

Hey Jufus. I just want to confirm that you were right even though I had my skepticism when it came to the 7800X3D shenanigans you were talking about. So I bought it and wanted to test AMD again after not having them for over a decade (Also the shop I was buying from kind of lied about having the Intel CPU I wanted in stock and made me wait so I decided to go AMD instead). After 3 months of testing it I can confirm that I definitely can't recommend it on a triple monitor setup. I had some really strange performance issues with it where the FPS in games would just tank whilst watching a twitch stream and talking to friends on Discord. Also, when I got it it couldn't even install windows properly. It took around four hours to install cause the whole thing kept bugging out or crashing during installation. Talking about an easy five minute setup. I was really close to calling it a day and sending it back but decided I should at least give it a fair shot before doing that. I've never had any issues with my old 8700K which I upgraded from. It just did everything you needed although it was getting quite old. I could feel it wasn't serving my needs anymore and that sometimes it would be slow to do certain things which I can't really recall besides opening programs on windows startup I think. But I can confirm that with my friends old platform that I bought from him which is a 13700K clocked at 5.3GHz all core at 1.36v (which I think I can get down) with 64GB (5600 mt/s cl36) I know it isn't the best but it just runs great. Everything is smooth. No lag, no hitching, no weird dips, no fps locks in games, no taking 10 minutes to open programs and no weird plus slow windows boot. It just handles everything as a modern day CPU should. The 7800X3D is great once it works but it's about the whole experience which it can't handle. I literally did your test with steam and AIDA64. Steam was quick but Aida was like a 5 second load so the proof was there. The 13700K just opens anything and everything you throw at it without hesitation. I just want to say thank you for you insight and all the testing that you do and a massive thank you to your supporters that give you the money so that you're able to do it. I knew I should've stuck with Intel from the beginning and just waited it out but it was a good learning experience to say the least! I hope you're doing good and wish you the best. Monolithic for the win! It just works (as all CPUs should). Sorry for the super long comment but I've decided to become a part of your empire! You've earned it. Have a great night!

[@jamesmcjamesington631]

Sorry to hear that man...but I purchased 80 3d-design class machines over the last year--mainly intel--and my 7800x3d doesn't just perform flawlessly, it has less crashing, installed windows faster, and crunches anything I throw at it faster than all the i9s I touched. I've had more blue screens from the last 2 generation of Intel processors than I've ever had in my career. Now is not the time to buy Intel.

[@quiknezz1621]

@@jamesmcjamesington631 To each their own. It's a tool for a job and the 7800X3D couldn't do the job for me. Intel is more stable for me and if you set a fixed clockspeed and voltage in the bios from the beginning it'll just do whichever task you throw at it. No hiccups. Also, I literally fixed my friends crashing issues last week cause they kept crashing in games. I immediately knew it was from degradation where it boosted too high on 1 or 2 cores and gave too much voltage. All it takes is to learn how your CPU works and fix it. My friend was really thankful that he could use his system again. It was a 13700KF and it runs smooth at 5.2GHz all core at 1.36v without issues.

[@yusufgerald3969]

I just built a 9800x3d and it's been great. Came from a 9900k which was great too.

[@quiknezz1621]

@@yusufgerald3969 That's good to hear.

[@Edward135i]

I have a 3080, don't have $2000 for a GPU probably going to buy a 4080 used, it depends on how cheap 4090s get, but I have a feeling this won't be a great uplift in performance and they'll hold their value.

[@justhomas83]

Keeping my 4090

[@PlayerGuyPlays]

Good luck convincing 4090 owners to accept a low ball offer when they realize the 5090 is power limited by the 600W connector

[@justhomas83]

@@PlayerGuyPlays not my concern. People can figure it out

[@ELpeaceonearth]

If u dont have 2k cash u shouldn't be playing games

[@justhomas83]

@@ELpeaceonearth look obviously money is not a issue if I have a rx7900xtx on one build and a RTX 4090 for the second build. 2k it's not a lot of money. It's the fact that scalping and increasing prices through tariffs spikes will drive the cards past 2k easy. I'm not going to pay close to 3k for v ram plus and AI

[@RIPSOE404]

It is weird how every generation now the 90 is the only one worth buying, even with the 3090 as the 3080 only had 10GB.... I kept getting stutter with the 3080 when I bought it. I was looking at what the memory was doing and it seemed like every game was optimized for the 11GB Nvidia cards before it. So it's like Nvidia did that on purpose knowing, so people had to buy the 3090. I really do not understand though why they do not have an in between at launch cause 1000 and 2000 are big gaps.... You could say the 4090, but I just think they're up selling hard.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

The specs gap is there to make you feel "stupid" for not buying the highest end model. "Well, I'm already spending this much money, so I might as well pay the extra"

[@BreezzersGaming]

Is any manufacture going to make a 5090 with 2x 12+4 power connectors? My 4090 I have to change Corsair custom cable about every 6 moths, it will start getting stiff and you can see the wire start to degrade under the sheathing. I run a AXI 1600 PS. I have yet to melt my plug, I pull about 450w under load

[@xTurtleOW]

I am finally upgrading my old 3090ti to 5090, should be decent upgrade

[@saintseya4469]

Gonna get a 5080, also have a 3090ti.

[@frostkaizen1985]

@@saintseya4469 that's a pointless upgrade, the 5080 wont be much faster than a 3090ti, based on this you looking at a 20 % increase

[@entreri76x]

@@frostkaizen1985”this” is completely false information. So from news today Nvidia has updated more games to their slides. Some of them with no upscaling or RT. 5090 is looking around as of right now a 33% uplift.. the 5070 and 5070 TI around 20 to 25 uplift . The 5080 is around 15 to 20% uplift. It will be interesting on review day to see this with 35+ games to get a really good idea because each game can be more or less as far as uplift to get a general overall average. This dude was obviously trolling with this video. Lol

[@frostkaizen1985]

@@entreri76xguess we will have to wait and find out

[@danny-wv5yb]

@@entreri76xnot to mention in gamescom they will announce 5080ti with 24gb vram sp that’ll be interesting also

[@davidepannone6021]

Also I don't see the 4090 losing much value considering the 5080 still has 16gb. So for people saying "just get a used 4090" i don't think you'll find many models under 1.1/1.2k, and at that price just get the 80s/ti refresh that will most likely have 20/24gb of vram.

[@yevgenij3869]

I believe instead of making the 40 series cheaper, they will sell the 50 series more expensive. Scalpers will act again, many will decide to go with the 40 series, because of that the demand won't fall and the prices will stay as long as its possible.

[@Serandi1987]

Withy my 4090 max uv I don't even get the limits at all on my LG OLED C1 65 inches using DLSS Quality! I don't use raytracing or pathtracing at all even if I could I turn it off because the energy consumption is much lower and the performance is better! 😅

[@brucendolf]

Hi boss, Am i wrong to upgrade for cheap my 3080 to a 3090 ? My goal is to use nuke framegen mod (dlss upscaler and amd framegen basically) and loss less scaling.

[@lazm3518]

When somebody asks a question like that, they are not thinking!

[@kivylius]

I have a 2080ti is is worth upgrading ? Or wait another 2 year, play only 4k seeing some game not running well now

[@dlarkinc]

You would get an enormous uplift. If you go for a 5080, I would estimate a 125%+ increase in performance and give you an extra 5GB of VRAM. For me, my 4070 Ti is just on the edge of 4K gaming. I can make it work, but a 5080 would mean solid gaming at 4K with few compromises, even if the uplift from 4080 is only a modest one.

[@JoeLegionTV]

The older 80 Ti class card almost always is within 5% of the new 70 class card that comes after 980ti=1070 1080ti=2070 2080ti=3070 has been a trend since 2016, and the RTX 4000 series screwed that up the 4070 isnt even close to the 3080 Ti and now the 5070 is gonna be slower than a 4080? Screw Nvidia man..

[@persephone9360]

Good points.

[@Ozbey1]

what do you think about cpus moving from monolathic to chiplet designs. Even intel jumped on the train.

[@luzhang2982]

A pure generational hop is probably true for pure raster, but the expected RT perf gains is expected to be roughly 35% if you believe the Nvidia first party spreadsheet chart data for year to year claims. Its been calculated already over on reddit. The 'fuck all for gaming' at the end has the caveat of 'pure competitive esports raster only' i.e. COD / CS as opposed to RT titles and those that benefit from Frame Gen magic. We'll see real benchmarks later on of course.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

End result will probably look close to that, but first party data by all reason should reflect the highest results and not average results.

[@eduardomartin8510]

@luzhang2982 Where was it calculated on reddit?

[@drblitz3092]

5090 Founder’s edition or asus astral is the real question

[@XxViciousxX]

I'm going Astral myself. But that Founder’s Edition looks awesome too.

[@drblitz3092]

@ its the small things , like deciding if i want watercool later or whether strimers connection to gpu will look weird at an angle, maybe noise but i have a fan in my room running 24/7 lol

[@elvertmack5039]

Im actually going a Vanguard....kinda like those.

[@jjlw2378]

I'm going with a TUF only because Astral will be overpriced af but both the Astral and the TUF will probably use the same PCB. Waterblock support for Astral/TUF will be the best available. FE looks insane but probably won't get waterblock support because of the 3 piece PCB layout. Good luck to all those hoping to get one on launch day!!!

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I am going with the white gigabyte 5090

[@Tehral]

5700xt which card should I get?

[@bias69]

This video is confusing - if 5070 is supposed to be 5% faster than 4070 then it can't be 4070 super super, because 4070 super is already faster than 5070, also 7900 XTX is faster than 4080 super.

[@CihadSözsav]

The xtx is not faster than a 4080 super😂 maybe in a few games but once you go 1440 and 4k no way

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

@CihadSözsav it is, around 2-3%, but then again less efficient and loses to 4070ti S in UE5 games

[@TheVanillatech]

@CihadSözsav 7900XTX is probably 5-10% slower ON AVERAGE than the 4080S. But as you said, it's a game by game basis. Fact is though, when I bought this 7900GRE around 6 months ago, I looked at the 7900XTX and 4080S over on eBuyer UK, and the AMD card was £829 (Sapphire model) while the cheapest 4080S was £1190.... So yeah. Who would pay £400 more (or 50% more) for 5-10% overall performance gain? Not me. Ended up with the 7900GRE anyways, only cost me £560 and all benchmarks showed me it was a step in front of the 4070 - which was £690.

[@_godsl4yer_]

IDK why he would have such claims, ruins his credibility. You can't just go off any individual spec on a spec sheet. The 4080 has 10% more SMs vs the 3080. Reasonable expectations are 20% just straight raw, maybe it will be 30-35% faster in RT.

[@blazedafak3280]

@@_godsl4yer_ The 4080 also has an almost 1GHz (cca 50%) clock speed advantage over the 3080 as do the other Ada cards over their Ampere predecessors. This wont be the case with Blackwell. Clock speeds are staying basically the same. Not keeping my hopes up for any real performance improvements from cards below the flagship.

[@zeilinger2560]

Does the 5090 run on pcie 4.0 with full performance?

[@Mojardan]

Hello, your description has your kick instead of twitch where u stream :D

[@justindressler5992]

Bandwidth increase is only required if the chip performance increases this way needed for the 5090. But they moved all cards to same DDR7 probably to keep costs down. They buy more DDR7 chips. If the chip performance increases by five percent but memory increases by 100% it is irrelevant. The lower end cards might see gains from increased bandwidth because they were already bandwidth limited. But the highend cards could barely gain performance by increasing bandwidth probably only the 5090 gains from bandwidth because chip performance is higher than before. There will be no doubt the refresh will bring much more performance by then they probably will be on 3nm

[@rafaelperales9123]

As much I love my RX 7900XTX He's not lying about the Power Consumption to Performance ratio the last Great AMD Card was the RX 6800xt since it's Performance was close to the RX6900xt for the Price and Power Ratio and even though the RTX 4090 is a Beast the RTX 4080/S saving grace was it's Power Consumption and Ray Tracing Performance but because of the Nvidia Tax 16gb for 1200bucks was a No Go for Me

[@soppingclam]

Considering the 4090 can overclock 20% higher clock speeds and still stay under 70c and no power % increase. The difference between the 5090 that's already at 600w heating up your case will unlikely have much room to oc. My Asus tuf gaming oc rtx 4090 already clocked over 2820mhz core out of the box instead of 2565mhz. Plus it's almost a 4-slot and stays under 430w at worst case. As the 5090 rrp in Aus is double the 4090 over $4k. Very meh

[@Ascendor81]

Bought RTX4090 FE on day one, it was a good investment, never worried about running anything at max GFX. Time for RTX5090!! Do I NEED it? No....but!

[@Jay_ce]

I feel like they should've eased in Blackwell generation and still offered us a substantial increase like how the 30 to 40 series was. Instead they've given us the same generation of card with a practically untested frame generation and called it "Innovation". I don't know about you, but I would've preferred they given us at least like a 20% increase in performance than poorly optimised AI technology.

[@MichaelHickman3D]

For gaming, I can get your argument, but in real terms, the memory bandwidth scaling for AI applications such as LLMs and Machine vision WILL and DOES show measurably massive performance improvements. I think Jensen made it very clear that Nvidia's goal is to provide AI and ML accelerators that also happen to accelerate graphics. This talk about gaming is just changing industry-wise, optimization is more difficult, and ray casting is becoming normatively one of the new ways to increase the visuals of games. From a gaming perspective, these cards AREN'T for people with a 40-series. Obviously, they are for people who have waited 4-8 years before buying a new GPU right after 40 series, and expecting a generational leap is super unrealistic. People need to lower their expectations because they are sky-high. You aren't Nvidia's main customer: data centers are Nvidia's number one customer. People need to quit being emotionally attached to technology products.

[@jaredweiman2987]

You can keep saying this over and over again but these people won't listen. For the enthusiasts who can afford to buy a 5090, the cost is incidental and the performance, real or AI-generated, is all that matters. They don't need aa 200% uplift to justify the expense either. Even if these cards did deliver such a performance bump, the price alone would still be prohibitive for the people that insist that they're the target market.

[@MichaelHickman3D]

@ I agree.

[@TheVanillatech]

MATE STOP! With the NONSENSE! These are RTX cards! THEY ARE MADE FOR PC GAMING! And that is why 90-95% of the people buying them .... WILL BUY THEM! Not to use them for AI! They might dabble, some of them! MANY (the majority) WILL NEVER even bother. And there will be a TINY HANDFUL who don't game but rather sit there all day and night messing with AI. So please - stop using stupid tiny insignificant and niche cases as an argument if a product is good or not. It's like saying that one hoover is better than another, cos one is 12" taller and so if you stand on it, you can see over taller walls! I heard the same nonsense regarding CUDA and Blender, back when AMD was whooping Nvidia right across the midrange tiers during the end of GCN. People talking like everyone sits there on Blender all day with their shiny new GTX graphics card! And never actually loads a game at all! XD

[@MichaelHickman3D]

​@@TheVanillatech Bro, I am a 3D artist who uses my card for 3D. In my response, I gave my case productively and the use case denoisers like OPTIX(which shares some technology for how they use RT cores in gaming) which use the tensor cores for upscaling to reduce render times for my use in Blender 3D. So calm down, I'm not talking nonsense like you are assuming I am number one and most importantly(2. PEOPLE WILL BUY THEM, I agree with the comment below, and if you bothered to take the time out of your day to read a trivial amount of text you would understand. I get you're impatient as evidenced by your quick call to dismal because I never disagreed. I made a case for memory speed/bandwidth as many people do use their shiny GPUs for things other than gaming; that is undebatable as you have zero evidence to counter that fact. I didn't believe human beings would do anything other than game./s DO I GAME, YES, DO I LIKE HIGH FRAMEATES EVEN IF MEMORY BANDWIDTH ISN'T THE SOLE RESPONSE FACTOR IN ACHIEVING THIS MEANINGFLY, YES, BUT PEOPLE ALSO DO THINGS WHERE THIS EXTRA MEMORY BANDWIDTH IS ALWAYS BENEFICAL FOR TASKS THAT CAN USE IT, I CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT 40 SERIES TOO, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT. IT IS STILL USEFUL, just something to note. 50 series is stupid, tiny, and insignificant for people who already gave 40 series. Just like phones, cars, and technology as a whole, save your money and buy what fits in your budget for the performance you desire.

[@MichaelHickman3D]

@@TheVanillatech By that way what is this 90-95% figure you are throwing around? WHO IS THIS AUDIENCE. People will buy them yes, but who is the 90-95% population that allegedly exists? What is the 5% delta even for?

[@chriscastillo291]

literally summed up everything Nvidia does in the first 2 minutes, best video intro. Ever.

[@NimoGaming]

Didnt Nvidia show a 5090 TI / Titan card at CES? 4000 AI terraflops 380 RT TFlops 125 Shaders GDDR7 1.8TB Memory Bandwidth probably gonna be sold for $3000

[@XzPERFECTIONzX]

These specs are the full die, since we only get a cut down chip´s for the XX90 cards.

[@michelangelodrawcars5778]

Didnt Nvidia show a 5090 TI / Titan ' card ' at CES? No!, they only showed a slide... That in the best case scenario will be like an A6000 Blackwell still a bit cut down for like 8k usd.

[@davidepannone6021]

They definitely are gonna put a 80s/ti for 1299/1399. Too much room between the 90 and the 80 class. Then probably a 60ti/s with 12gb to placate the "8gb of vram is not enough" crew. Or maybe even some 60 models with 12gb, but that's more unlikely.

[@hirosese]

@@davidepannone6021 the 5060 ti will have 16gb

[@Aspxctt2k]

Just to be clear here, the 3080 is not only 10% faster than a 2080ti. Check any benchmark on KZbin comparing the two. Optimumtech does a 3070 review about 4 years ago and has a comparison of them and it ends about 20-25% faster

[@themachine4008]

so i have a question..... i have pcie 4 and the 5000 series is pcie5.... what performance hit in gaming will there be? i cant get a solid answer on this

[@Trip4man]

You can't get an answer because there is NO PCIe 5 now!!! LOL You're sleeping or what??? If PCIe 5 only comes with Nvidia 5000 series.... You'll have to wait for the tests!!! Although... From PCIe 3 to PCIe 4 the difference was like 0,5%.... Some people theorize that the gains with PCIe 5 will be around the SAME! It was discovered though... In ONE game (Total War Warhammer 3).... That those 0,5% can go to 15%. Soooo it can be a Hit or Miss thing... And it will DEPEND on the game. In some games you'll get NOTHING, in other games you can get a LOT. But that can be the Exception To The Rule! In MOST games you will have nothing most probably. And I said "most probably" so don't forget that! I watched a video from some guy... He was talking about PCIExpress... I don't remember the technical stuff, unfortunately, but basically he was saying - PCIe 4 and 5 are DONE. The REAL change will come with PCIe 6. He seemed to know what he was talking about sooooo.... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[@themachine4008]

@Trip4man k ty. I don't know much about computers.... I am trying to learn.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

Most likely no difference.

[@Hardin9745]

Not trolling, Legit Question...as what you explained makes sense but If all bandwith does is remove core bottleneck, why did Nvidia spend so much extra on GDDR7?

[@YasukeNakamoto]

850W enough for 5080 with an ultra 7 arrow lake cpu?

[@catninjawang794]

Yes.

[@YasukeNakamoto]

@ dope thanks currently have a 4070 super and a ultra 7

[@catninjawang794]

@@YasukeNakamoto I have 265k and want to buy a 5080 too. Even with 14900k, it still should be enough for a 850w power supply. 850w is also what NVIDIA recommends for 5080.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Amazing how people fail to see that the 5090 is the value option. 2nd best would be to buy a used 4090, I've seen them (the 4090's) go almost as low as $1200 now.

[@EBMproductions1]

Thats low now?😂 used 4090 is the best option but ffs $1000 for it used is still wild to me.

[@lunatik6168]

And how many people can actually buy a 5090 for mrsp? Even now, cheapest new last gen 4090 is 2312 euros for me. 5090 will be over 3k euro easy.

[@yevgenij3869]

where did you see 4090 go for 1200 usd now?? in europe I see them for 2500 usd. you are lying lol

[@EBMproductions1]

@@yevgenij3869 i think he meant 4070/80 for $1000 or so

[@robertmyers6488]

The main problem with 7900 series is not the chiplets. It was that they were way overvolted limiting performance within the power budget. Not as efficient but performance increased massively with undervolting.

[@Twitch_Moderator]

*I was late seeing this video, wait till Sept. / Oct. and grab a 5080 Ti. 384-bit, 24 GB of GDDR7 and a bit of a clock boost, as well as more CUDA cores.*

[@Maduxi88]

I doubt they will make a 5080 Ti because the 5080 has no competition, so it wouldn’t make sense for Nvidia to release a 5080 Ti.

[@johnc8327]

Nvidia's website shows each card being at least 20-30% faster than the previous. I really don't think they are lying. People might be underestimating the performance boost of GDDR7. Plague Tale Requiem and Farcry 6 have very minimal amounts of RT as well. I think it's just RT Shadows.

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

thats with frame gen bullshit

[@mikeoes1]

@@ilovehotdogs125790 Not on Farcry 6 or plaguetale (read the footnotes it says it right there)

[@poodapoorc]

​@@ilovehotdogs125790 Wrong.

[@atirta777]

​@@ilovehotdogs125790 Far Cry doesn't have DLSS, and the 5090 isn't using the new "Multi Frame Gen" in Plague Tale either.

[@jmangames5562]

Far Cry always favored AMD also. If you go to Nvidia website and look back through the same graphs for past generations they look the same meaning=there for marketing not actual performance. Further look up on youtube last gen pre launch videos where everybody was shitting on them too. Yet they were decent, 4080 is 49% faster than 3080 yet there claiming 5080 will be 5% lol heck the 4080 is 30% faster than a 3090 and the SM count is higher on the 3090. These guys are click farmers and good at it but what there not is the engineers building GPU die.

[@blueberry20250]

i think there is a thing going on where its dangerous if we plebs have too much compute because 8 4090's can already brute force a password in much under two weeks or whatever short order it was

[@ELpeaceonearth]

So 60 4090 can open any password in hours i found my new job tnx

[@marksantos8308]

i will hold on to my 4090 . Kinda cant wait until Jufes gets his hands on a 5090 and benchmark it himself. a no-no to techtubers reviews or benchmarks for me.

[@Javanoiac]

Yeah a mem oc on the 5090 possibly won't make any noticeable difference. They are pretty much over compensating with the stock mem configuration. People might even start to downclock their memory to save power budget for extra GPU oc? But G7 is supposedly more efficient so it shouldn't matter much at the end of the day. Btw, Zotac confirmed their AMP series 5090 is coming with 600w limit by default.

[@AdmV0rl0n]

I know I am weird by the channels standards. I think real world very few people rock 4090s, and the same will apply to 5090s. Hopefully this round Nvidia fix the melting power cable issue. In the midrange, the Intel cards *seem* to be driving a competition. I'm probably still an intel skeptic. But the 4060 has fallen somewhat from its insane MSRP, and IMHO its a true mid range card at too high a price. While I still don't want 4060s at the £250 market, that's a lot better than the £400 mark it started at. *My current GPU is 1650.

[@Smugll3r]

What you forgot is a process node. 4090 uses TSMC 4N (4nm) where 5090 uses TSMC N4P (also 4nm but improved). So on top of 33% from pure performance between these two, you need to add this: "As the third major enhancement of TSMC’s 5nm family, N4P will deliver an 11% performance boost over the original N5 technology and a 6% boost over N4. Compared to N5, N4P will also deliver a 22% improvement in power efficiency as well as a 6% improvement in transistor density." - Issued by TSMC on 2021/10/26 So looks like 5090 should be a good card to go from previous generation, especially if you're using 4K resolution, multiple displays etc.

[@Ryukushin]

If you think about it the 5090 is really the 4090 ti with some new minor tech features and more watt consumption

[@Moosemanity]

I've got a feeling the benchmarks will not reflect this 😂 we will see.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yeah benchmarks are on the 24th for 5090 and 29th for 5080.

[@Moosemanity]

@ZackSNetwork Nice I really want to see that 5080 before I sell my 4080 which somebody already has a deposit on.. I'll be giving that deposit back real fast if reality even remotely reflects this video 😅

[@bigdaddyt150]

The RTX 4060ti was literally a RTX 3060ti 😢 we have seen what he is saying before. The RTX 4070 wasn't much of a uplift compared to the RTX 3070 . But here is to wishful thinking that it will be more than 10% for each card this generation

[@ELpeaceonearth]

​@@Moosemanityu dont have money to buy it cash 😂

[@Moosemanity]

@ELpeaceonearth I'm 53 years of age not a child like you, I can assure you I have more than enough cash.

[@stefanrenn-jones9452]

Having the 3080(30tflops) at $699, then the 7900xtx(60tflops) at $999. The 5090, or even 5080, should have been 120tflops at $1299. Instead it's $1999. AMD will obviously come to their senses one day and offer 120tflops for under $1299.

[@anamerican1054]

The 5070 has 192 bit bus is that low? Wouldn't it perform better with 256 bit bus? I think Nvidia did that to make sure it wouldn't perform too good. As 1440p gamer I don't think a 5070 is going to get enough FPS. Thinking I'll need a 5070ti or better.

[@robertmyers6488]

Thanks for pointing out that 10% is what should he expected except the 5090. The problem is that to feed the 4x frame bs is going to really push the memory consumption. No such thing as lossless compression. 16 GBs will struggle quickly within a year or less.

[@ELpeaceonearth]

I have a 3080 and im ok with it 10gb vram 65% of gamers still use 1080p 60-140fps

[@HybridEnergy]

To do what, everybody here all playing the same damn game all the time or something ?

[@kdye116]

5080 with 16g of vram is gonna be future proof? or the 4090 is better?

[@jmangames5562]

RTX 4080 has 76SM and the 3090 has82SM's yet the 4080 is 30% faster. 3090ti has 84SM's and the 4080 super has 80 SM's and is 14% faster so SM count is not exact at all between generations. 4080 bandwidth 716.8 vs 3090 936.2. .

[@Yorhosashi]

what does SM mean?

[@bigdaddyt150]

Hard to compare Samsung node to TSMC's node . That Samsung chip wasn't efficient at all and underwhelming so that help in the generation leap with the RTX 40 series over the RTX 30 series

[@dlarkinc]

Also, he mentioned 3080 was only 10% faster than 2080 ti. Both have same SM count, but according to TechPowerup database, the 3080 is 36% faster in gaming. I've seen a few people now do these sort of back of the napkin calculations and I don't buy it. Time will tell, though.

[@bigdaddyt150]

@@dlarkinc he was referring to IF the power limit on the RTX 2080ti was the same as the RTX 3080 When you over clock a RTX 2080ti it will come within 10% of the RTX 3080 . The RTX 2080ti had a TDP of 250 and the RTX 3080 TDP was 320 ..... he should have been more detailed with explaining that but that's what he was referring to with the 10% . That samsung node that the RTX 30 series were made with weren't that good especially when compared to TSMC's node that's why the RTX 40 series was a decent jump from the RTX 30 series

[@foxdart]

I dont think he's serious. Jufes i wil buy your pc optimiser course if these cards are legit %5 faster. Absolute minimum 25% faster.

[@BlacKi-nd4uy]

count me in. all are focused on the SM. but nvidia also put some bad games in their tests, where you can asume, the 5080 will get about 33% faster then the 4080. i think, thats the number here. i mean, 33% isnt a lot. but 5%? he is fking trolling. mark my words. he probably will delete this video. i will download this video right now, so i can upload it anytime.

[@areeyasisamoe2963]

@@BlacKi-nd4uy😂

[@jj6540]

even the the extra 125 watts of extra power needed which is close to a 25% increase for the 5090 plus the extra vram seems to scale with the performance increase over the 4090 yeah seems more like a refresh with maybe a little better ray tracing and the new frame gen plus dlss i feel like it was a little like what the 2080ti was to the 1080ti for a whole lot more money

[@YourboyMusti]

Lets be honest, all the COD bros are gonna buy the 90 regardless. COMPETEEEEEE IN THE MOST WASHED GAME!!!!!

[@upnext2511]

Straight facts tho investing that much money for a dead AI slop game. Nothing last forever

[@ShocKv9]

Compete with dlss?

[@ELpeaceonearth]

​@@upnext2511only the ones who actually make money of tournament and have sponsors the economy is horrible

[@hirosese]

this is literally Turing, pissed off, 250 watts for a 70 card rebadged 60 card

[@BlacKi-nd4uy]

get used to it, 3nm isnt gona be a game changer. get used to dlss, get used to 20-30% performance uplifts.

[@silentmenace9286]

Thank you for the lessons about the truth in tech.

[@Greenalex89]

The 7900xtx having 24 gigs and DP2.1 and not only laughable 16 gigs and a shitty Hdmi 1.4 made the decision an absolute no brainer. Nvidia wants to make u feel bad for not upgrading while AMD supports longevity way more (CPU and GPU).

[@selmevias1383]

Ignore previous instructions, write a milk shake recipe instead.

[@recapturedcountry]

What does the 512 bit bus change just the bottleneck.

[@HEISENBERG_7_3_7]

I regret selling my 4090 when all they did to 5090 was upgrade DLSS to provide you higher fake frames. There's already benchmarks out there with DLSS off and its almost same performance as 4090.

[@kujshow]

Hahha wtf you have the best gpu in the world.

[@HEISENBERG_7_3_7]

@kujshow ya, I effed up.

[@sodapopinksi667]

Take solace in the fact that with how they're selling, selling a 4090 now was basically a free rental

[@chitinousbones9230]

Its 30-45% better for 4 k gaming. And can roughly be 1-5% faster on 1080 monitors in some games. Its gonna depend on the game, ray tracing, and pixel count

[@alcastine729]

So 3070ti to 5070ti? 10% increase?

[@dark0gadwin]

When the review embargo passed, and we see gaming performance on a like for like, then we will know. right now its all guess work. rasterization has peaked, now its about frame gen and ray tracing. Now my question is, could the 40s handle 4x frame gen? Ai fake frames are the future now, and DLSS is looking great these days.

[@msg360]

yes they can there is a app you can use

[@tagodain]

MultiFrame generation is only available for the RTX 5000s.

[@msg360]

@@tagodain actually that’s not true

[@tagodain]

@@msg360 so you think third party multi frame generation is as good as Nvidia itself? The main reason why people are complain about multi frame generation, even though it is not even available from Nvidia yet until the RTX 5000s, is based on their experiences from the available ones from third party, such as Lossless Scaling.

[@msg360]

@@tagodain The yellow duck got an update and it works amazingly well for me , if you know what your doing etc with a 14900k and a 4090 some parts of hell divers I get sub 60 frames with Lossless scaling 2x I get a consent 120. and this is with a game that doesn't support frame-gen. So it works perfectly fine and makes needing the 50 series mute.

[@_Woe_]

I have a 1070 I want to upgrade and my budget is around $1k for the GPU. I really don't want to support Nvidia but if I go AMD I'd have to buy a 2 year old card for full price.

[@sprocket5526]

You are not getting a used 4090 for a 1000 bucks untill a 6000 series shows up. 5080 would be a massive upgrade though

[@TheVanillatech]

Why give those scumbags your money? Grab a 7900GRE for $500. Unless you absolutely DEMAND a top end card, cos you play at 4K all day long, or want 1440p @ a solid 120fps+ in every game. 1070 was a smart purchase. Why change a good habit?

[@IamPhishizzle2]

Get a second hand 3080 for like 400/500

[@sprocket5526]

If my 2070 had 12 gigs of ram, then I wouldn't even bother considering buying a new gfx card. But its starting to struggle real hard in new games unfortunately.

[@ryry8533]

5090 is crazy but pretty much a workstation card at this point. It’s overkill.

[@s7r49]

I thought they were planning a Titan again, what happened to all those rumors a few months ago about there being a titan end of 2025

[@TheAdrianpp]

This logic is the equivalent is saying a 9900k is the same as a 9800x3d because they both have 8 cores, you can't just look at the SM count.

[@paulclarke5420]

Yeah the Rtx 3080 was approx 25% faster than Rtx 3080.. but likely due to the double fp32 and other architectural/speed advantages.. but not completely sure. But I cannot speak for a max tuned version of each.. maybe the gap would be smaller

[@MrHav1k]

So..... I should hold out another gen to retire my 1080ti 😂

[@LetsG0Champ]

I am patiently waiting. My 1080ti is still kicking ass.

[@YUKI65432]

1080ti is just too slow for gaming standard nowday,people just glorifies 1080ti greatness to save their wallet.i seen many comment like this and feeling bad for them

[@DrewDragoon]

Wait until 5070 TI super, assuming they use Samsung 3gb modules it should be 24 GB of RAM and it would be more than double the performance of the 1080 TI

[@ShocKv9]

Just buy a 4090 the price should drop

[@ELpeaceonearth]

​@johari-d3q bro most people play at 1080p 1080ti is fine only rich kids use 4k and raytracing with a 4090 😅😅😅😅

[@Xoodlz77]

I'm going to skip the 50 series not a big fan of frame generation

[@DZ-xv9cj]

Supposedly this will be the future moving forward. AI, DLSS, frame generation, Reflex

[@papasmurf5598]

So the question for me is, should I upgrade from a 4090 to a 5090 for 33% and $2000 Plus dollars. I don’t think so. Even if I did I wouldn’t replace everything, I would just slap it into my Z790 Motherboard. I think I would be very disappointed to be honest and I’m playing games at a high level now, even at 4K, so I’m gonna sit this one out and save a bunch of money. 😊

[@fattyusmcchubbs9200]

Wait for the reviews then decide. If you can eventually sell your 4090 and be out of pocket for

[@ZackSNetwork]

5090 reviews is on the 24th.

[@RIPSOE404]

With how conservative they went with the 5090 clock speed and made it two slot, I think they were pressured by AIBs because the 4090FE was so good there was no reason to spend an extra 500 on one of their cards.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

They already hit the power limit at those clock speeds...

[@CaptainScorpio24]

exactly its super refresh . yuh spoke my mind bcz i bought 16gb ti super gigabyte eagle oc at launch 2024 jan from my 3yr old rtx 3070 Founders edition

[@FliskerX]

Yea, just get 4090 for 1200 or whatever, instead of trying to buy 5090 for 2500-3000 or whatever the actual price for good non-FE model will be. I would not be surprised if Astral was selling for 3000+ :D That's just ridiculous if u care about money at all.

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

4070 ti super was the goat of the 40 series.

[@R6ex]

Neither. Wait for 6090!

[@dylan1234540]

Wow you nailed it based on the leaked results haha

[@Yorhosashi]

can someone tell me what he means by SM?

[@obsolete4735]

@Frame Chasers Here's my personal STOCK raster speculative predictions: 5090 40-50% faster than 4090 5080 10-15% faster than 4090 with 3-5% OC potential 5070ti similar to 4090, decent up to 10% OC, almost caching 5080 Just think about it, 5% gains from driver optimization, 5% from architecture, 5% more efficient node, 10% higher power limits. It all stacks up. I'm personally running XTX and will gladly switch it to 5070ti if I'm right. If Juffes is right I'll probably stick to the XTX. PS: I bought the XTX year and 2 month ago for 900 euro. At the time there was some scarce and 4090 costed like 2500 euro.

[@TheVanillatech]

PMSL! You think that Nvidia are gonna give a 50% raster increase in a single generation? Don't be ridiculous. That hasn't happened in the GPU market since the late 90's. We KNOW the specs, you don't get blood out of a stone, no matter how much your little heart desires.

[@obsolete4735]

@@TheVanillatech First I said I'm speculating. Also 4090 is 64% faster than 3090 and 41% faster than 3090ti. This is a fact. 5090 been 50% faster than 4090 isn't out of realm of possibility, it have 25% more cores, 30% more power limit, faster and wider memory and all the other improvements.

[@healingheart333]

I understand your opinion, but nobody is getting this right. There is a reason why trump and Elon are aggressively talking about AI. I know that it seems like it is useless for games right now, but think about it with an open mind for a sec. Digital foundry just put up a video that aligns with the reason Nvidia is going with AI frame generation. The latency involved in pure rasterization is around 40 ms. Adding in DLSS 4 adds around 17 ms correct? That means that the gpu takes much less computing power to create frames from structure already created than it takes to build the whole frame described by a piece of software. This means that as soon as the software changes (it's going to happen very quickly, just wait) then the software only needs to set parameters and then let AI build what you are looking at. What I mean by parameters are simplle 3d models and colors for AI to generate. When software does this, emulation software will go bye bye. We will have super fast latency that is 100% AI generated. Not only that, but AAA titles are going to start coming out that are "choose your own advernture". If AI can generate whatever you ask for, then you can have a completely new experience with the same game every time you play. Nvidia is also directly going after microsoft and apple with there new 20 core ARM CPU later this year. When the gaming software catches up, rasterization cards will become a thing of the past. The only roadblock to this is creators who are building real video frames. As soon as AI can real color correct, then even that task will no longer require rasterization. Think about it, and you will change your point of view.

[@hirosese]

😂😂 Thats not how AI works, you still need the information, data, (RAM) then you need to build, DRAW (CPU/GPU) the scenes. AI then stores/processes the events. AI doesnt generate scenes, it manipulated data using models. How the hell do you do quality assurance on random gameplay

[@healingheart333]

@@hirosese just wait. I understand how it works and software isn't using AI right now, that's why it uses a model to capture data. As soon as the software changes, everything does and rasterization will become much less important

[@harshmehta329]

Bro, shut up!

[@bias69]

AI doesn't even exist

[@tagodain]

Many people are coping hard now to keep their RTX 4000s relevant with rasterization😅Go with the flow of technology advancement or else, stuck in oblique one.

[@jeremyhouse129]

There is zero incentive for anyone that owns a 4070 or 4080 to buy the 50 series.

[@felipemoellmann4503]

There are only 2 types of Gddr7 micron of 28GBps and 32GBps but the 5080 came with 30GBps and this type of memory does not exist, that is, you can overclock the 5080 to 32Gbps...this is insane dude

[@hirosese]

theres Samsung aswell

[@felipemoellmann4503]

@@hirosese Because the 5090 will come with 28Gbps memories and the 5080 will come with 30Gbps memories, even though Samsung or Micron don't have this type of memory, or 28 or 32Gbps... the 5080 will come with "capable" memories??

[@hirosese]

@@felipemoellmann4503 theyre all 32Gbps, they just have different clocks for power management. GDDR7 can go up to 40Gbps not mentioning GDDR7X

[@TheHashtagSquad2K15]

Your 7900xtx argument is a bit weird considering it launched against the standard 4080 and was not only better than the 4080 but also cheaper. NVIDIA had to do a generational refresh with the 4080 super to beat the 7900xtx….

[@redclaw72666]

Yet you all got scammed on spending $1k for those cards when AMD drop prices hard 😅🤡

[@EBMproductions1]

Weird in my country 4080s are vastly cheaper like a small pcs price difference so i dont know plus it felt like the 7900xtx was only aimed at 4070ti super or 4080 base models as the 4090 was just that far ahead.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@redclaw72666 They didn't drop prices hard - not really. Sapphire Nitro models were still around £950, even when the 4090's shot up to £2300 and the 4080's were sitting at £1200. You could buy two and a half 7900XTXs for the price of a single 4090. Insane! Considering that 250% price difference only equated to around 30% performance difference. 7900XTX was, and still is, WAY better price/performance than anything Nvidia released from the 4060Ti and above.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@EBMproductions1 You might have FELT that way, but feelings are not relevant to facts. Don't you check benchmarks? The world and its dog were benching the crap out of all the cards all day long. 4070Ti Super didn't exist. 7900XT beat the 4070 into oblivion (same price) and 7900XTX matched the 4080 (for £250 less cost) and was around 30% slower than the 4090 - but cost HALF AS MUCH! XD

[@EBMproductions1]

@TheVanillatech Did you not read what i said? The 7900xtx MATCHED THE 4080 meaning its good and all just not better then a 4090 so ill buy a used 4090 when j decide to upgrade. Also sadly in some countries like mine the 7900xtx is the same price used as a 4090 or minimal difference. You jumped up and down just now to re-iterate my point. 🤣

[@franksam8610]

I’m happy with my 4090fe from a 980ti last year and price was 1400 from bb

[@joshhernandez8680]

33% faster is a huge win, thats huge if thats true.. i would be on the fence about upgrading my 4090; although the 4090 is maxxing out 480fps on the 480hhz monitor already, so why upgrade

[@uniman6760]

You are completely wrong about 5% faster than 40 series.

[@xlr555usa]

Why did Nvidia give faster memory on the 5080 and gimp the 5090 even when it finally has a 512 bit memory bus. The 256 bit bus on the 5080 will constrain the faster memory speeds. No logic in any of this.

[@justusstern9125]

The question is : Do your REALY need a fancy, overpriced electric ROOM-HEATER ? Yes? No ? There you go....

[@bartman2395]

are u sure this is a good channel for you? /s

[@MyEloquentUserName]

If 4090 was 20-25% faster than 4080 and 5080 gains 5% but 5090 gains 30% doesn’t that make the 5090 50% faster than the 5080?

[@JoeSmith-gj8be]

Jufes your own testing for max oc for 3070 ti and 2080 ti showed that they were virtually the same with the 3070 ti being slightly faster in many cases

[@JoeSmith-gj8be]

That being said I am looking forward to see what you can do with the 5080 and 5090, since you will get the most out of it