Should You Go Hybrid or Full Frame on your B58? (I Have Both)

[@kern417]

Buy Your DAW Turbo here: www.bimmernetwork.com/?afmc=kern417& Buy Your Top Mount Kit Here: docrace.com/collections/turbo-kits

[@TheMdpalmer]

@kern147 what is your clutch/flywheel/hydraulics setup? Thanks for making the video bro 🙏

[@BasRikken]

im on stock turbo stage 2+, going 180 mph easy, 60-120 8 seconds, im a cheapskate and happy with this power

[@gwspom]

„Back in my garage“ => driving on a highway 😂😂👍🏻

[@mkvB58KING]

I've had both, and if I had to chose just one it's full frame every time. The instant spool of the hybrid is nice, but the top end on a full frame is where the platform shines.

[@cameronrussell9362]

I'm the same. Had a Pure800 now run a G35-1050. Pure was fun. Very fast. But the way that Garrett hits is epic.

[@alerosale5090]

Love what you've done with the garage👍

[@Gryph8n]

Comments at the end sum it up well. Determined by budget and goals. I have a Pure 900 with 1050cc DI and cooling manifold with a stage 1 transmission upgrade, but stock engine internals. The turbo has more room for power than I’m tuned for since it is a daily and I want reliability. After a certain power level, tires and driving surface are the limiting factors.

[@day4061]

I recommend full frames everytime. Just more to work with and people always want more. I have a docrace 6466 bottom mount switched oever from a ufX

[@SimonWatkinson-bg1gn]

Are there any graphs out there showing spooling and power curves for multiple turbos? I'd love to see the numbers side by side so as to be able to compare the newer hybrids and top mounts. It would be great to be able to compare a Pure 850 to a 900 and then a top mount.

[@Eightyroundclip]

Love the vids bro, but miss the little 2 second clip of awkwardness in the beginning of your older vids lol

[@jieddo1]

Switched from a hybrid to a Doc Race 6466 top mount and haven’t looked back. Car just pulls way harder now but the trans is slipping like crazy. Built trans coming in next couple months.

[@TjClarkish]

How much power are you making where the trans began to slip?

[@jieddo1]

@@TjClarkishIDK the number but I’m at 29psi on next gen 6466. I’ve had a Spool stage 2 trans upgrade kit on my shelf for six months now.

[@iJustB58]

What hybrid turbo did you have and how much power? I’m only looking to make about 600wheel max on my gen 1 B58 so I’m thinking the Daw 6769

[@dragongamer8253]

i would love a Top Mount but a Top Mount in Germany nahhhh so i got a Hybrid

[@MistakenMedia087]

I think one of the things i dislike the most with full frames is the turbo sizing. 99% of people dont need a 1000hp rated turbo, sizing them down to the 700-800hp range is going to make most people extremely happy. Unless like you said, they are building motors/tranmission. Also, what is your pi setup? Currently on a flowmax+ e40 on a fi stage 2 hpfp. Trying to figure out how much further i can go before dumping the 2k into pi, especially if im at around 600whp already, to only gain another 50 or so whp.

[@f22_b58]

Hey kern I’m looking for some info on this setup. Stock turbo/ stock di injectors but go pi with like 750cc then stage 3lpfp with a tu pump for hpfp. Plan on usuing this for a year till go big turbo and then from there just go stage 3 hpfp and maybe bigger di injectors?

[@cameronrussell9362]

You dont need PI with stock turbo.

[@y00h000]

Does the OG big boost kit on your 440 use external WG with an adapter to the stock electronic WG control?

[@kCoss234]

Whats your opinion on the spool performance turbo that comes in their top mount kit

[@kern417]

Really not a fan. The manifold design isn't great and would make it laggy. I'd recommend a kit with larger runners on the manifold.

[@spiceetaco]

How much of this information is relevant to let’s say the s58 platform?

[@SwnkyTiger]

Outside of the psychology behind the decision making, weighing options vs goals, really not too much specifically. From what I understand a tune alone might satisfy most people with an S58, if I recall MHD stage 2 advertises a little over 700hp (certainly more than some people ever need.)

[@berdzena8797]

anyone running mamba 3071 or 3076?

[@Vincenzo-wn4ku]

Why not just say top mount, bottom mount and hybrid?

[@slickvic5755]

Bare bones.. hybrid if you’re manual unless you got big money, and full frame auto imo

[@y00h000]

Just curious what makes you say that about manual vs auto? Why does a manual require big money. The hardware for the kit is all the same and the manual just needs a clutch upgrade while auto needs a transmission build. Only other difference to my understanding is the wiring of a reflex kit. Is there something else

[@x0x0xxooxoxx11]

Damn I’m early