Should You Play Protection Paladin in TBC Classic?

[@cajintexas7751]

I remember the first time I saw a prot pally tie down an entire roomful of ads in the original TBC. It was a thing of beauty. I rolled one of my own as soon as I could, and I still play it in Shadowlands.

[@thegrip6589]

I played a prot pally during TBC and loved it as it was my first max level class. Its very slow to level solo play questing and the dmg output doesnt pickup until you get geared but overall im considering reactivating my account to do it all again thanks to these nostalgic videos.

[@TheNewton]

It's pretty satisfying the first time one pulling all of HFC.

[@gary6631]

I like that everyone is talking about prot pally in raid environment when realistically we're all going to level and quit at like 30-40 just like in classic

[@tomykulak7728]

What are you talking about quiting so early on?

[@CrowsDescend]

Most of you have quit already, yeah. I seen hundreds of Draenei's lvling up in the starting areas and it was so bad that we had to level up in Teldrassil, but what's sad is that by the time TBC Classic launched, most Draenei's had already quit. There's still a hefty amount, but a lot couldn't cope with classic zones/quests, which is a shame because TBC content/quests are a huge relief once you get there.

[@BarokaiRein]

Off tanking is probably the chillest role to play in the game so not being main tank all the time in raids is nothing but a bonus.

[@abfutrell]

I leveled a pally as an alt in TBC. I wasn't worried about a raid spot as I knew I would make it as either Prot or Holy. We always had a need for healers. My biggest pet peeve with TBC was the lack of dual-spec. Daily Quests were insult to injury for those with non-viable dps specs.

[@SwarmAM]

Just waiting for APES to hit 70 in 4 hours and clear all raids within 7 hours of launch 🚀

[@Smidztv]

I enjoy your videos, also your voice helps me poop if im struggling that day.

[@randylahey2660]

Subscribed due to how informational and relevant your videos have been. I rarely subscribe lol good job.

[@stickandmud]

The slow motion intro was epic

[@prototype9904]

I do have an observation about the seal twisting, Because I played Horde, I didn't have access to that particular seal, so I'm thinking if it's an aggro issue, this is not the solution for sure, there is more fundamental issues to tackle first, but I'm thinking if you want to to be a "try hard" and go for max dps, I suppose if you've mastered every other aspect of paladin tanking then sure, experiment and have fun with it. ~ There is a lot of other things to pay attention to as a tank that should keep you plenty busy besides your dps/e-peen meter score. If you're dps is low, you're probably not pulling enough mobs, and the same goes for low mana issues. (also it may be due to too much avoidance) Blocking gives you threat, if you dodge and parry everything..... it's not win. gearing for a raid is different than gearing for a dungeon or aoe farming, I hope to see all my paladin brothers in TBC Classic soon, Don't let the Warrior tank Prince at the top of Kara either, that's a fight MADE for a pally tank ;p ~ and If you have trouble on Gruul, let the Druid with high avoidance and health do it until you have better gear at least haha /Cheers guys

[@MrSmith223]

/cast [noharm] [noharm,target=targettarget] [] Righteous Defence macro doesn't seem to work on live

[@TIKAFO]

Does it make a difference by changing the "Defence" to "Defense" ? The spells name is Righteous Defense.

[@d0k0night]

Macros in the description please

[@othellosmistake]

Used to love playing prot Pali because it was a rarity. Now a days everyone is in line to abuse it.

[@enriquemasyrubi5876]

best professions for paladins prot for gold farming?

[@auca3473]

I just watched a video that pretty much said prot pally is boring in TBC and its the more casual class. But if your seal weaving like you say then there's heaps of things to track and buttons to push. I play ret pally in retail right now and lemme tell ya there is never a moment where I'm not in a rotation. So this sounds great

[@goosegaming9720]

What is the UI used by Ravenshield? I know it's an Elvui Edit.

[@dornan786]

Music from Witcher 1. My respects.

[@henrikh3089]

I have been playing a tank druid recently in classic and learned one thing: Tanks are needed in dungeons, but rarely in raids. With no dual spec, keep in mind it might be hard to get into raids as a protection paladin. Keep that in mind if you want to main a protection paladin in TBC.

[@J_Archer]

I rembmer back in TBC always having a spot in raids as a Tank. I think It could be the case in Classic b/c Fury/Prot Warrs, plus Wars are the most played class in Classic

[@nightcedargarden]

Idk I get into raids every time as prot pally and is having a blast.

[@mattkreais8240]

I played prot pally on horde through to pandaria and plan on boosting and playing pne again

[@Joini50]

YEEES!! I WANT AND I WILL!!!

[@johnmatses359]

Hey Man, great video. I Just love the UI 1:20 min in the video. Can you please point me in a direction where to get it? Or the profile that is? ; ) All love!

[@Hakohn2511]

ElvUI

[@jorgerios1473]

Yeah why not, your personal gold maker you don’t need ppl to run stuff with is just going to be a gold mine

[@hizzousekakashi8836]

4:30 I don't think this i needed like at all, when i was on the ptr I didn't make the macro and was still using it like a normal taunt in ramparts, so it's just by default amazing.

[@mayna2083]

They do have the 2.4.3 or whatever version of Paladin taunt in where you can use it like a normal taunt, however if you use it on just one mob you lose the AoE effectiveness of it. There's no reason to not just use it like the macro.

[@hizzousekakashi8836]

@@mayna2083 I'll have to try it again but I recall also getting the additional targets when I used it on the main mob the mage pulled off from in ramps.

[@Vayne122]

whats the addon that shows spell info? like crit chance etc

[@tUbocU90]

Thanks for the nice guide and info. Love the macro

[@grampygamer8584]

Prot pallies will be the new gold farming boosters in TBC. But I say play whatever gives you fun. So you 'Should' play what gives you fun.

[@joeschmoe5133]

Are they OP to the point where they require little gear? .... like a mage doing SM:Cath

[@TheBunnySlaYer1]

@@joeschmoe5133 yeah you can do all of the lowbie carry runs with the lvl 70 gear they give you on the beta, just a few key pieces you need to get from dungeons nothing crazy.

[@NicolaiMainz]

Cool little trick with the seal twisting - but I think you're saying "Seal of Righteousness" a couple of times, where you meant to say "Seal of Vengeance", it can quickly get a bit confusing :)

[@alexishosie100]

Ugh I can't get that agro macro to work

[@NebsterSK]

Does Siritual Attunement work with overheals?

[@inoshishitv]

Sadly no.

[@pebbleunek123]

pro move is to take ur shielf off for 1 hit so u can get mana obv only when ur topped off on life and mana starved

[@thecondor8225]

nope

[@prototype9904]

my main was a prot pally since the TBC, I made him as soon as it came out and never looked back \m/

[@TheNewton]

Nothing like being able to stall out pretty much every melee fight either 1v1 pvp or Nv1 pve. A notable exception is hemorrhage rogues for some damn reason.

[@loki1300]

I thought Seal of Veng did a small amount of dmg once the stacks were 5/5? Smaller than SoR still if memory serves

[@swiftjuice168]

Currently in Beta, here are my findings... With 364 Spell Damage and Crystalforged Sword (1.8 weapon speed); Seal of Righteousness = 134 - 142 Damage every 1.8 seconds, equivalent to 254.6 - 269.8 threat Seal of Vengeance = 174 Damage every 3 seconds at 5 stacks, equivalent to 330.6 threat SoR TPS = 141.44 - 149.89 SoV TPS = 110.2 The main thing to remember is that SoR relies on hit rating, which most Paladins won't until later phases, so Seal of Righteousness is potentially much worse for threat. Edit: It's 444 spell damage, not 364.

[@loki1300]

@@swiftjuice168 I also looked it up, it's wrath when SoV does a small amount of dmg once fully stacked. Also I appreciate the detailed comment about your findings

[@swiftjuice168]

@@loki1300 My pleasure.

[@prodigy15222]

Like the subtle Oblivion music lol

[@michaelcate5298]

can you really make 200g/hr doing sm gy?

[@Mentico]

Man I need this UI Just like that for me sooooo badly =/

[@badwolfxd3593]

As if right now my belf prot pally is 56 and I'm soooo damn torn between him or my Spriest for my main 🥲🥲

[@TheWhisperingPenis]

@AS Why is that? Shadow Priest scales terribly and has the most boring gear progression ever as they stagnate in tailoring pieces meaning they have little to strive for when in Raids as their tier is worse than said tailoring pieces.

[@Scrumpchwrap]

Bis professions?

[@PaulSman123]

YES!!!

[@ThePontificius]

If playing prot paladin in endless taught me anything is that there are way too many and you wont get a raid spot at all. I had to re roll 😔

[@anubis9116]

There will be plenty of raid spots, not to mention classic population will dwarf the hell out of endless

[@nickelodeann]

I'm so torn right now and I'd love any input. I absolutely love the gameplay and fantasy of ret pally in tbc. However, I've seen how good prot is, and would also love to get into groups fast and tank and farm; I'd like to be more of a commodity. But ret will always be my overall priority. Obviously we don't have dual spec, what would you guys recommend I do? Should I tank at the start of tbc as I get gold and gear for ret?

[@kennta340]

Hey Goblin, you forgot to put the macros in the description, just a FYI :)

[@MetaGoblin]

Lmao shit every time I'll do it now haha

[@kennta340]

@@MetaGoblin haha 😂

[@mythgamingmn8350]

@@MetaGoblin macro isn't working in prepatch

[@GrandPrimus]

Best tank for most bosses will be a druid.

[@hardcoreclassicenjoyer]

YES

[@samg8939]

10:16 edit this part

[@1ButtonDash]

I'm actually gonna level a dranei paladin while everyone else is levelin a shaman heh. Gonna be an alt but gonna be fun.

[@jakey........]

not sure im here for the wow info or the asmr

[@daethmer7834]

Damn Witcher 1 music

[@MrTimonSemplar]

oblivion music

[@rickyhowl2134]

Priest or pally hmm

[@jethrojangles9541]

what's this, a WoW youtuber who doesn't sound like they have the head of the mic 2 inches past their uvula?

[@FABIOFABIUS]

Yeah

[@gabes.1882]

Nice

[@tectons8371]

Its funny how tables have turned,I was playing in original tbc and I was in the best alliance guild of the server at the time clearing BT every week,nobody would invite a paladin tank they used to be meme class,same goes for hunters,when I joined the guild the 2 main hunters of the raid they were marksmanship,when I made some research and found the famous one button macro I toped the damage meters and everybody was mind blown how a hunter could make this damage,tbc is going to be a joke people will clear every raid within a week the raid release,people used to be so bad back in the time.

[@scotty1436]

I'll lvl one in Prepatch horde side but just for a gold maker no raiding

[@danniheggie9956]

Yes you should this post has been brought to you by the prot palli gang.

[@Myr3390]

/cast [noharm] [noharm,target=targettarget] [] Righteous Defence Change the Defence to Defense with an S

[@Sinomis]

Yes

[@Zllew]

To tank heroics Prot pallys are the best, but if you think a prot paladin can tank "Brutallus" like a warrior or druid can, well... you might wanna curb your expectations. (From someone who mained a prot pally in vanilla TBC)

[@alimardani4994]

"DÜNGEON"

[@brandonneifert3199]

bro that macro doesnt make sense at all

[@_faythene]

Unfortunately I agree with alot of the comments, most of our holy paladins have expressed they are respeccing to prot or ret next expansion, prot pally is going to become the classic mage in population density. Good luck to those hoping to come back to the game and try to get this raid slot without being asked to respec holy.

[@allstargaming5270]

Sure play Prot Paladin if you want to play the new most overpopulated class in TBC. 👍🏼

[@antiaggro8929]

Rubbish if you ask me ... They can't all be the most popular classes ... Hunter and warlocks get called the most played classes because of dps druids get called the same but for farming and ow pvp ganking ....

[@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman]

@@antiaggro8929 warlocks will not be the most popular, that's sure. Hunter will be way more popular than them. In the case of paladin, a lot of people waited for them to be good but they will be the most populated class in wotlk, unless it's dk. Druid will always be the most populated alt. Prot paladin just behind in tbc.

[@MrGyonex]

Funny because I played prot back in 2007 and there were only 2 or 3 prot pallies raiding in the entire server, like everyone just refused to accept they were any good. Now 14 years later turns out we were op....

[@zday40k]

Played resto druid and prot pala for all of classic, don't plan on changing for tbc 😁 don't really mind if its overpopulated as you can only have 1 or 2 per raid anyway so not gonna have the mages/warr raids you do in classic

[@huppupappa1637]

@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman What is most less played Class in TBC? Rogue? Priest?

[@licoriece]

I hope that most of the people that level prot Pala for gold/boosting don't want to actually tank raids. Can't imagine having trouble to find a slot as tank, right? Right?!...

[@henrikh3089]

Yeah, I recently started playing a bear druid in classic. It's night and day between dungeons and raids. For one you are almost always wanted, for the other never. In TBC druids are good because they pretty much use the same talents in cat/bear, so just need a new gearset. Paladins aren't that lucky.

[@onlygravity]

Delete the video so everyone doesn't switch to paladin in TBC

[@xxx4421]

"should you play" wtf play whatever u want even tho it might suck.

[@poolofstuff]

That's the entire point of the video...

[@amedaius8492]

Short answer: no. Long answer: I don't want my class flooded with nubs.