Should You Play Throne and Liberty? My Honest Review

[@bminturn]

I've made idiotic decisions in cash shops before so I already know that this isn't a long-term project for me at all. I have to stay out of the cash shops completely because I start to act like an alcoholic with "just one more purchase" and I'm not going there again. The combat is fun. That's about what I can say after 4-5 hours of play last night. But I can't get sucked into paying for progression or I will hate myself afterwards lol.

[@unverifiedverified4418]

We should just pass a law against it period. Stop ruining gaming.

[@bminturn]

@@unverifiedverified4418 I've heard from people that I trust that progression really isn't hampered much if you don't pay for it. You just need to group up and do higher tier content I guess.

[@Dkdarkstar]

Arena Net made Guild wars 2. I wish Arena Net, who is a top-tier developer, made throne and liberty.

[@ebenezerconservaskeez7661]

It was published by NCSoft. FYI

[@Despond]

Minus the billion mounts and have all gameplay now be based around mount abilities and I agree. I can't wait for GW3.

[@sportschool3537]

Arena Net NOW has the rights for Guild Wars 2... the game was developed by NCSoft because NCSoft despite being known for being extremely greedy at times (although TnL is very friendly to F2P players cause they realized the fanbase was tired of their shit and they're trying to save their company) is also very well known for having made two of the most successful MMOs ever made (Lineage 2 which at it's time was as huge as vanilla WoW and Guild Wars 2)

[@tokestarlive8394]

This comment sounds.so.dumb. this game.is fire and been top steam game for a week. You sound like a dummy

[@CatalysedCat]

@@sportschool3537 arenanet developed gw 1 and gw2, ncsoft was only the publisher

[@arixonverashernandez8213]

Something to note is to make sure that you research the weapon combo you will be using and experiment before around level 20 because switching weapons becomes a chore later on after you've spent all those resources that become hard to come by at later levels.

[@joemygoodness5411]

My brother, say it with me: THRONE and Liberty. No “S.”

[@Zhoriizon313]

Finally someone notices! So annoying

[@heyojayo8642]

Chill brother Its not a Big Issue... ...also could you spare me sone oats brother?

[@hpharold23]

Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap.

[@nicholasaragon4126]

My bad. I was thinking it was "Thrones ands Liberties" this whole time! 😵

[@AmazingBreadEdits]

It’s not that big of a deal lmao

[@michaelaine14]

I'm going to save you guys the TL;DP (Too long, didn’t play) 🤣🤣 I played on the KR servers, reached Epic 2 set T2 content/dungeons, and maxed my gear at the time. At endgame: - Endgame will solely depend on the alliance that takes over the server. Both PvP and PvE content are heavily tied to this. - It gets stale, and you’ll notice how lacking the devs are in terms of competence. It’s as if they don’t know where the game is heading. - Yes, it’s open-world, but you’ll mostly use teleporters, and it feels more linear than “open” due to all the content being separated into zones with invisible walls disguised as big rocks or mountains. - You’ll notice how small and disconnected parts of the map are (which breaks the "open-world" immersion, in my opinion). - Gear is heavily pay-to-win . - The game is very meta-centric, both in PvP and PvE, with lots of gatekeeping. - Everyone equips SNS during Node Wars. - Good luck having fun as a solo player! 🤣 - The reason it died in KR is that the devs don’t know how to balance the advantage of big alliances, and it ruins the entire game’s content. TL;DR I give this 3 months tops in the West.

[@dsoegiarto]

Nice. Looking for something to waste time for 3 months.

[@frostbiteonline6732]

Idk why, but saying THRONES and Liberty has the same feel to it as if you said Game of THRONE 😅

[@mougen4138]

"I just wanna kill stuff and get more powerful" 🥴

[@southrnsmoke187]

I'm a solo player as well. I never do pvp unless it's an fps shooter. I love mmorpg's like WoW. Just haven't played one in years. I'm strictly a casual console player now as I'm up in years now and don't have alot of game time now. But I'm definitely gonna play until I hit that wall.

[@quasidoc7726]

This game is so not solo, at least compared to other games like FF14 GW2 or WoW. End game with throne is pvp; The pve only feeds the pvp.

[@lowkeylokii4205]

If you're a casual, p2w is a nonfactor. Reach your goals on your own time. I'm less concerned with p2w and more with time gated paywall games which I'm not seeing so far.

[@heyojayo8642]

Same here brother. I recently played the other October release and Amazon Games sister game "New World". Just que for dungs with pugs and have fun, life skill and explore the world. Maybe buy a house. My only worry is there are no life skills in T&L iirc there is a barebones fishing minigame where you cook food for buffs ala most MMO's thats it. Just like to say to anyone listening just have fun upto level 50 then decide if you want to really invest and don't worry about the leaderboards leave that to the greasy sweatlords who live that swipe cc life 😂

[@winterblink8495]

@@lowkeylokii4205 If(!) this game is like Lost Ark it's a factor. Because in Lost Ark you could not reach your goals in your own time. You had to be in pace with the other players or you will have a very hard time progressing (players not taking you into raid groups, because it was week 3 after the raid came out and you still don't have 2-3 gear pieces from it, essentially locking you out of any progress at all)

[@ghostcat9588]

Damn. I went from wanting to play this to wanting to go back to GW2 then wanting to reinstall BDO. I don't want to be held hostage by an MMO's grind and rat race. Great video tho.

[@Royal.Grand.Majesty]

In regards to the seemless switching between Tab-target and Action, Guild Wars 2 had that implemented long before. Which you can toggle between both mode with a toggle-key. Most likely the fact that NC-Soft has their hands in both GW2 and T&L.

[@Loreignss]

This game is a ported, very polished version of Lineage Revolution (NCsoft's mobile MMO). It literally is IDENTICAL down to the UIs, the Icons, mob spawn density, like its crazy how people are on reddit calling this next gen when the entire game has existed for almost a decade. They didn't even change the font on certain screens. (Also, WoW's cosmetic, one single cosmetic made more than their entire quarter of monthly subs, they spoke about cosmetics bringing in far far more than the sub and not even really needing it but its grandfathered into the playerbase and they have no reason to remove it on a shareholder call 2 years ago.) Gw2 has only cosmetics and thrives, but I like T&L its just a clone of the mobile game down to the dungeon content and pvp.

[@daegorvx2937]

How is pvp balanced? For example, in Final Fantasy 14 even if you could buy entire sets and plvl, stats and items are still equalized in pvp. in ESO champion points can be locked in most pvp modes. Is there something like that here?

[@madhatten5123]

Nope. Very gear dependent PvP

[@CHEEZEDUP]

Why do you keep saying thrones of liberty?

[@heyojayo8642]

Chill brother. Its not a Big Issue... ...also could you spare me some oats brother?

[@anwarsiziba]

Right!😂 it’s not a big deal but it is still like..🫠

[@roe5265]

I’m calling it Throne of Liberty moving forward ❤

[@lennxeath3293]

It's such a little thing to get annoyed about do you not have any other things to do lol

[@vitt4300]

@@lennxeath3293 While watching the video.... no. It may be little but if you are reviewing a game and telling me about it at least get the name correct........

[@ZulacecekStarcraft]

Not knowing who NCsoft is and thinking they made GW2 makes your opinion irrelevant.

[@Shadowl]

That was the first strike. The second and third was that he is partnered with Amazon lol.

[@zyrf1167]

I loved played Aion from NCsoft a very long time ago. haha

[@Demonsouls1993]

Guess what NCsoft owns arena net so you don't even know what your talking about

[@StarTrekNotStarWars]

​@@Demonsouls1993they are likely differentiating because Arenanet is a Western subsidiary and had nearly complete autonomy in their developments. PC gamers differentiate for very good reasons if you have ever had the chance of playing NCSoft and Arenanet games. Different development philosophies, monetization strategies, and implementation.

[@ZulacecekStarcraft]

@@Demonsouls1993 You don't know what you are talking about because owning a company that made a game and making a game are 2 completly different things. GW2 has nothing to do with NCSoft style of games. It is very misleading to say that NCSoft brought us Guild wars 2

[@AutomanicJack]

i tried it a bit and its no game for me.. too many items, too many buttons, too many gifts and menus and too much upgrading skills and weapons and everything.. and too much reading beforehand to know what you should do.. no thanks

[@sebasbeau7631]

Small brains

[@AutomanicJack]

@@sebasbeau7631 and toxic fanbase.. no thanks..

[@anwarmerdas]

Yap P2W It is P2W And the end game is PVP The game is P2W

[@Ris4RogueYGO]

Is it tho??? also I see people complain about P2W a lot but have 0 praise of game like once human with 0 p2w

[@Snikkii15]

@@Ris4RogueYGObecause once human has a dedicated PvE server. N from experience people who enjoy PvE are generally more helpful n less competitive. Personally I’m here for PvE content. I hope they add more.

[@rikmang]

It's p2w if you don't feel like grinding 20 hours for 1 mat that is needed to upgrade an item. Plus grinding that mat only gives a chance at upgrading it. Each upgrade is % based..It could take you one mat or six. I hope you feel lucky

[@frlouis3266]

The end game is ZvZ not PvP. Zerg vs Zerg.

[@khandragon7950]

Yes and No.. maybe by technicality it has P2W aspects, but on the other hand they have the same Premium Currency Trading as Warframe, except it is thru in game auction house, but you won't have to spend real cash to gain the premium currency, just spend time hunting for things to sell... ;) so you can get anything that cash spenders can, for no cash..

[@iansoliz1992]

I got it shut off not to tab to the next target. Guess what another enemy gets close to the guy I’m attacking, it targets that instead. I have to constantly swap back to the guy I’m fighting. Pisses me off. I had to put it down. Not sure when I’ll pick it back up.

[@twofarg0ne763]

I played for 3 days (I'm retired). Exploring the game was great and the world is beautiful and well put together. What I hated is while the game is basically free to play, it's pay-to-win when it comes to getting good crafting mats, weapons, or gear. The crafting system itself was mind-numbingly boring. I doubt I continue playing unless something changes.

[@robdebone]

Kind of sounds like bdo where maybe the combat and exploring is fun but everything else around it is overly complex and busy bullshit.

[@bluemyst42]

Any game with a heavy emphasis on PvP while ALSO providing P2W mechanics is just crap. The whales are going to dominate every PvP encounter and eventually the minnows will stop playing. Its one thing to offer an XP boost or cosmetics, but just straight up buying upgrade mats or increased upgrade odds is BS.

[@Trebbor1958]

thank you for the info... I dont like guilds much either, and not good at pvp usually..... but it looks like lots of other stuff to do...

[@maxdenby2166]

Always like your content!

[@radw1mp]

It's Animorph! the P2W mmorpg.

[@MrAddummm]

can't wait to play "thrones and liberty" this weekend.

[@lowkeylokii4205]

I loved wow raids and dungeons, spent years in bdo where everything was damn solo which for me defeated the purpose of playing an MMO, so I'm down for needing a group to progress even if I lean more towards casual

[@kinbailey310]

I started playing it and then I kept having to watch videos to figure what not to do and you wouldn't believe the amount of don't screw up your game with the wrong decision videos so I just don't have time to do that much research just to even start a game.

[@maxmustermann2367]

the point is, people who are using money to achieve things can do that on games like wow where you basically can only buy gold officially via the token. any run, raid, gear, mount, transmog can be bought off blizzard but by the community. people sell runs and people buy runs. basically its the same. you can buy pvp rating, you can buy pvp gear, everything. so basically, people who pay money will have these benefits no matter if the company is selling the stuff or player. same with eso, ppl sell gold, crafting material, runs for gold - millions of gold, which you can buy by any player or g2g page whatsoever.... so i think you get my point

[@jpwashere2868]

ESO isn’t pay to win, there is nothing you can buy in the shop that will give you an edge over other people. The shop is 95% percent cosmetic. As for gold buying pretty sure that’s against tos. You can also just farm mats there is no incentive to buy gold. As for paying for runs those are usually just tied to skins and titles people want which are again cosmetic

[@maxmustermann2367]

@@jpwashere2868 u clearly missed my Point. People buy dozens of gold what they use to buy clears. Ofc its no p2w, just pointing out that you can „win“ anything in a Game with real Money. Buy eso Gold and upgrade all your Gear to gold is already an advantage, simple as that. Thats what its all about, people take Money and buy stuff that they arent capable of. In eso Theres no such System where you can win something on the Long run, But Thats also the reason theres just a handfull of hc prog guilds in pve. Its Not challenging at all.

[@maxmustermann2367]

@@jpwashere2868 also lets say we both start at the same day. You buy riding Books to Max out your horse with Money while I need 180 days for it. Thats a huge advantage and youll progress much faster. Faster riding speed, much more inventory space. As a newb u Take anything and waste hours sorting stuff. Its all p2w or at least pay to progress

[@chrisdcrus5404]

A quick question on the UI, can stuff be moved around or removed from the UI and can bars be resized etc. when I played FFXIV online I liked how I can change the UI so if you have played FFXIV online you will know what I mean.

[@bkbstone]

What is that plushy that's following you around everywhere? What's the purpose of that ish? I mean, it's right under your feet the whole time but you didn't mention it at all?

[@FrexieFrex]

"UNABLE TO CREATE A CHARACTER(10)" 10/10 game can recommend

[@islander1]

I've just started leveling in the game, finally looking at videos...and this guild centric system is leaning me towards uninstalling now. My idea of being a sweat lord is tennis or running.

[@ThisIsRusko]

Sounds amazing. Can't wait for later to finally play it

[@pixkypix]

Thanks for the great honest review! Also, finally a review that I actually understand! My friends are playing but I was a little skeptical to try the game cause everyone is saying is all about pvp and I don’t usually enjoy pvp and I have kids so I usually play when normal people sleep so it’s nice to know that I can play the game or some parts of the game and enjoy it.

[@amurika6336]

Welcome back!

[@TikachooYT]

"Don't play this if..." You don't want to have a great time

[@Shoto_x]

You know you are saying that if you play it, you wont have a great time

[@TheRealNagato]

@@Shoto_xnah been playing since ea launch and it honestly is great

[@TikachooYT]

@@Shoto_x Read it again, but slowly..

[@shadowchamp2001]

@@TikachooYT I gotta agree with him bruh, you said If I want a great time, I should NOT play the game, which means I won't have a great time playing it.

[@coltonshields2321]

​@@TikachooYT Lmao he's right tho? You said "don't play this if you want a great time", meaning if you play, you won't have a great time

[@michael5998]

Idk if I missed it but is PvP forced? Or can you do only PvE?

[@StarTrekNotStarWars]

Not forced

[@ShortLifeHax]

Breh Aion forever. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[@miraculousgaming8200]

Same for me on the guilds

[@samuraichicken2315]

Early days, it looks pretty impressive for a new MMO although I'd like to see how well it stands against ESO when it gets out of beta.

[@madhatten5123]

Well ESO has set the bar pretty low at this point. That game is a dumpster fire.

[@samuraichicken2315]

@@madhatten5123 eso has always been buggy but it had redeeming features in the past.

[@xyourdeus4972]

Eso's bar is in hell though so that's not hard to surpass

[@madhatten5123]

@@xyourdeus4972 facts. Big PvP update two years in the making!!!!! We removed 1 team from BGs and made 7 whole maps…… Wow mind blown.

[@robdebone]

Yeah I had a lot of fun playing ESO but how many damn DLC expansions can you play where you're just getting side upgrades? The shit gets old. It's not like the overworld is difficult at all. That's one of the biggest problems doing the quests is so mind-numbingly easy. It's not even fun.

[@captdarkduckie]

A group of 20 of us have been trying to get on the same server to guild up and play this together, but their weird server crap it keeping us from doing that since we can not all log on at the same time. They keep closing the server so I think we are going to try for a soy or two longer. If we can not then we are going to go back to wow. The game looks like it will flame out fast with mega guilds ruining the servers. Seen that in two of them so far.

[@martinramirez4433]

actually u no longer need to change weapons they fix that tvm now the weapon change automatically wen u use the skill of the weapon so it make it much easier to pve and pvp.

[@silverfox8484]

I thought this was out already but it still says "coming Oct 1" on steam....

[@bryanflores7838]

10am pst

[@misterbrady100]

Does Throne and Liberty have a subscription option?

[@spookie8622]

Thank you for the info. Not really into the Pay to win thing so I might not play for too long. I'm enjoying the content as you pointed out but late game grind and buy might not be my thing. i'm lvl 20 (Dagger/Wand) and really enjoying it so far playing solo. I enjoy guilds, but like you don't like the "Need people to progress" mentality. i just like them for the "Hang Out" aspect.

[@Witbyte]

I wish the wand had bigger heals earlier in the game. Early game no one dodges

[@DukesUp1]

3:40 greatsword has a tiny bit of AOE. its a single target damage weapon. Idk where you getting your info

[@StrongArmEntertainment]

I am pretty sure it does a spin to win ability that hits more than 1 target

[@hdgdhnxbdx1619]

wtf is throneS and liberty...

[@jonitops]

is there any like party roles? tank suport dps?

[@jharris67]

+++ Great point about Destiny 2 around the 16:10 mark. That’s exactly why I quit D2, and it's also the reason I'm done with this game. I'm tired of wasting my time on these.

[@kwoowoo828]

2 turn-off for me: (1) PvP emphasis and (2) Group focused activities emphasis. The latter is especially lethal if the player population drops and everyone will be sitting around waiting for everyone to group up to do any activities. Any MMOs that don't have a good solid deep comprehensive solo focused play would die a quick death because players will leave for other new MMOs when they launched. It will spiral down in vicious cycle. Those who remain playing will find many players left to play other new MMO. They will leave too when they can't do anything in the MMO without a decent group. When the returning players come back from playing new MMOs, they will find little player left because they have left. So these returning players will leave too. I think you get what I mean.

[@russelladams9147]

Which furry critter do you get to be when you go into travel/furry form? P.S. there no lore when class and race is cosmetic. Guild vs guild is all Asians can come up with. You'd think they'd want to move away from Guildwars and maybe look at something special like Dark Age of Camelot - but no one does that.

[@xz4409]

Are there trials/raids with a big group like in EsO? Or only dungeons with just a few people?

[@iTARGIT]

6 player dungeons rn and 12 player raids are coming soon

[@xz4409]

@@iTARGITdoes it requiere PSN plus to play? Or is it f2p to play multiplayer like fortnite,neverwinter?

[@Numero_E]

there are open world Raids that require whole alliances to compete for them with pvp, with good mechanics etc, and there are also guild Raids.

[@sportschool3537]

@@xz4409 Game is f2p as of today 7PM CET in Europe (10AM Pacific Time), I down own a PS5, bought a PC after PS4 so if the PSN situation is the same as back then then yeah, you don't need PS Plus. Game is completely free to play although I would suggest you to buy the first battle pass cause it's a very good help for the initial gear enhancement and it's only 10$... after that you can keep playing without spending a dime and you'll be completely fine, don't listen to the doomers that say you need to sell your house to win in this game, it's total bullshit...

[@xz4409]

@@Numero_Eyea i was asking for guild raids

[@sayseriously]

"Thrones" & Liberty...

[@Warlord99-f4r]

Sadly I won't play bc i have no friends to play this with and from what I heard you need to be in a guild. I'll keep playing my modded skyrim and probably just watch other people play it on YT or Twitch instead

[@raylanciano]

lol new game everyone going to find a guild

[@Danny-e6v]

You’d rather play a game that’s like 15 years old vs something new? 😅 9/10 ppl in the game probably started solo. Joining guild is easy you literally don’t even need to know anybody before joining one.

[@Warlord99-f4r]

@@Danny-e6v Alright , I'll have to give it a try then can't hurt.

[@Allmxd.]

​@@Warlord99-f4rit will hUrt when it starts asking you to spend money to progress faster 😂😂😂😂

[@Danny-e6v]

@@Allmxd. dude just stop. There is no part of this game where you HAVE to spend money. It’s literally minimal p2w. And the things you can buy to progress faster are capped at a certain amount you can buy. You’re probably someone who’s been stuck on the same mmo for 10 years and just sits in misery because he can’t let go and try new things.

[@temijinkahn511]

Can you share the quest you are on with others?

[@joeb2756]

could always count on you to deliver a great review ... thank you as always brother

[@mr.gameandteach7197]

I've got 60 hours in the game already, and I've never even seen the shop.

[@jackgreenway4646]

😂 yeah alright buddy.

[@mr.gameandteach7197]

@jackgreenway4646 it's not my fault some of yall are addicted to clicking the store.

[@Kevfactor]

PvP to me is pointless unless they have world PvP with like a 10 level fight range

[@VideoGamesFire]

Oh an everyone looks the same, there are like only 10 sets of armor

[@robdebone]

I'm sure they'll have endless cool shit. You can buy in the paid store which is something I hate about modern MMOs

[@js11t]

The game looks good but as soon as i heard that NCSoft is the developer, immediately went "no, no". Knowing their greedy monetization tactics and how they destroyed Lineage2, i wouldn't get near a game coming from them, hard pass

[@juurika22]

This MMO failed in east because it was not p2w enough

[@cozypo_ta_to]

Game of Thrones and Liberty 🤣 Appreciate ya, Deltia!!!

[@Ratly300]

Will storage and items be shared between characters on an account

[@Mrtrunks1985]

nope

[@zyderveld]

It's THRONE (singular) and Liberty, my brother, not THRONES (plural)

[@evaander]

Why did you think NC made GE2 😭😭

[@vezrien]

You can NOT level all weapons in this game... You really should pick 2 and focus on those. Swapping weapons is OK early (green and maybe even blue), but swapping after purple will be very difficult. The reason is you get almost all your growth materials from the main quest... and then they are drip fed to you over time via dailies. Swapping weapons after you hit purple will put you way behind. You'd be better off making a whole new character for the different weapons, and you are limited to only 2 characters.

[@Gobig4l1f3]

S/S/W, LB/D, that sounds really fun.

[@playertwoeightfourninezero4236]

I enjoyed lost ark until I had to pay to progress. Looks like I won’t be paying/playing this game.

[@lemon2404]

APAC servers are really just Japan which sucks for Australians

[@synitarthrax5618]

I don't like PvP in MMORPG's any more so I guess this one is a hard pass.

[@khaterine-v5q]

World looks pretty cool, but the movement and combat don't feel right to me.

[@masterofhaloben]

So this looks like a worse version of guild wars 2

[@Korriban4034]

P2W games in the mmo genre where there is pvp is like playing call of duty or similar FPS with aimbots & all those other hacks. Designed ro give someone an advantage & so is P2W. Gone are the days where everyone had equal footing and the best rose to the top. I miss those days. Thats when gamers where proper gamers not these fake immotations you see today. Saying that the graphics in games today is jaw dropping UE5.5 now we being spoiled.

[@vanwavanwa]

Anything Amazon Games touches = a no go.

[@Hailix]

I am having a blast with the game. I'm doing past 50 content with guild mates and having a ton of fun.

[@Hartwig870]

Yeah. Not playing a game that can't even bother picking a name that sounds decent.

[@AikidoMaster8]

A lot of creators I've ben watching state you can get to max level in around 8 hours.

[@dirtyzombiedude]

Felt like I was playing black desert online but with slightly better mechanics

[@-_Naq]

Def looks like lost ark with a diff camera angle, and without that annoying honing system

[@tbxvividos]

You should really learn the difference between a developer and a publisher

[@Danny-e6v]

“Dont play this game if you expect it to be exactly like eso or other mmos you’ve been holding onto for the last 10-15 years.” Fixed your thumbnail.

[@Glowbox3D]

I swear I'm not hating here, but I can't get behind eastern D&D type games. I played this for an hour, and I felt...OLD. I much prefer my sword and sorcery games to be western and adult. The moment the little stuffy character with a wizard hat on started following me around, I uninstalled. Definitely too cutesy for my taste. Also, when I look at all the stat trees, weapons, buffs and debuffs...it all feels just too much. Too convoluted and busy. Just my two cents.

[@Schniblogg]

short: if you love asia grind and a very bad ingame shop its 100% your game

[@danielcosta1488]

Lol I'm definitely rocking the bald eagle 🦅🦅

[@willlyle8027]

Just saying, for Destiny 2. There's an LFG where you can always grab some random. I don't have a guild and never have in Destiny. Do every raid weekly

[@PJ-zy4wo]

How do I change combat modes?

[@infinitexp420]

NGL, the p2w crap kinda turned me off, but screw it. I'll give it a chance.

[@bluejjutsu]

were you able to play pvp?

[@hardcore476]

I think ESO was way better control wise I do not like the final fantasy XIV controls and it looks like they were copy and pasted into this game the ESO controls were super smooth while these feel clunky just like final fantasy XIV I am playing on Xbox and maybe that is why

[@TheAdamsFamilyGaming]

Yeah definitely gonna pass on this one. Probably gonna stick to FF14 and New World Aeternum starting on the 15th

[@Notfallhamster]

You missed that this game is a hellhole for casuals and they should avoid it like the plague if they aren't able to play 5h a day to do all the important timegated stuff.

[@zeroxhakubi3211]

Early access buyer here * Huge miss. Game does everything worse than any established MMO. it feels like a mobile game and i had no choice but to skip all dialogue and anything world building because it was straight up garbage. I think its just a backdrop for getting to pvp. So i guess maybe it will be for a niche audience or which is fine. Lots of people play games like that in their libraries. ( GTFO is probably my niche game) Anywho just one man's take. Nothing wrong with PVP mmos

[@tokestarlive8394]

Wtf did I just read this proves you didn't play the game lol lol

[@zeroxhakubi3211]

@@tokestarlive8394 I had the 5 day Early access from Amazon and then requested a refund. Do you need proof? Because according to you I must have not played this game. And your proof is because you said so. Seems fair enough

[@zeroxhakubi3211]

@@tokestarlive8394 not sure if my reply went through but I sure did bud. Was on the early access train with the rest of the other 50k people. It is launch day so I'm assuming it's at least double - triple + that

[@hpharold23]

Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap.

[@Setzer777]

Guess what? That's every MMO.

[@societyGUN]

No its not lol​@@Setzer777

[@Setzer777]

@@societyGUN yes it is lol

[@societyGUN]

@@Setzer777 there are non p2w mmos out there so no.

[@onlywrongaexthetics6181]

😂🎉 This comment is crap

[@Sniperjones_007]

I thought this game was free to play on console. Why is it still $40??

[@hmmBEEFY]

I found it for free. What platform are you playing on?

[@AlmightyPooFlingerVI]

That's early access and bonus content. I think it officially launches for everyone at 5pm tonight. Edit: I think it actually just launched 16 minutes ago. My bad, man

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@hmmBEEFY PlayStation

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@AlmightyPooFlingerVI okay cool when I get home I’ll try it!

[@AKZL76]

Such a shame the pay the win concept in this game I loved watching the beta and early access but will opt out because I'm casual and don't want to be dealing with whales buying power. Had that in a game called evony and it was horrible

[@here2play760]

Ive been playing "thrones" and liberty for awhile now.... have you tho?

[@blahtime99]

Thank you for being honest. The p2w here is atrocious.

[@winterblink8495]

So this game has the same RNG upgrade bullshit as Lost Ark? Thanks, will pass then. Lost Ark was the worst MMOG I played almost ever - luring you in, then adding new raids with minimum gear requirements - sucks to be you when you hit bad RNG and couldn't progress as fast, coming late to new raids, being bullied for not knowing the mechanics of those raids/lacking gear.. What a toxic hellhole.

[@hyped.g3294]

Good review you almost hit all the marks. You tell all the truth.

[@Vangoh32]

This looks like a game my broke ass 16 year old self would be really into because is F2P, is grindy AF (I don't have the time for it now), and is extremely time demanding in general. Looks great, looks beautiful, but looks like a hard pass for me.

[@drewbanfield7307]

Game is better than MUDS from 1985!

[@easterdm]

Illusions of Time was the best!

[@Mimonight..]

so overall game worth playing or no?

[@Nic-gz3fr]

nah

[@frlouis3266]

It's free to download, try it and make up your own mind. I thought it was trash.