Should You Pull Jiaoqiu ? FULL Kit Overview - Honkai Star Rail | Patch 2.4

[@hungerdanceofkaa]

I love that even in the story he has to constantly remind everyone he’s a healer and not just a cook. Like “ok sweetie”

[@potatochobit]

he got his butt whooped in the story. did no one else play this game?

[@raiden4mgo]

he says he's a healer but doesn't heal at all in his kit, now why would they do that to him? makes me sad because it really seems that he should have been able to heal.

[@nena_nezali]

He heals my heart with masculine fluffiness

[@hungerdanceofkaa]

@@raiden4mgo Even if it was a negligible amount of healing they could have given him something. Like Fu Xuan but it’s only on a single ally with the lowest health. At least then he wouldn’t be a total con artist (I still love him though)

[@hungerdanceofkaa]

@@nena_nezali REAL🤌

[@neanahidden]

First foxian male with a sly smile and Kazuha’s voice? Oh yes. Take my jades. (Heh. It was still good to get a clear overview of his kit, thank you ;)

[@Mitsuri7878]

Op character Even after nerf He is strongest character for Acheron

[@DantoriusD]

His "Nerfs" never had an impact for Acheron.

[@Mitsuri7878]

@@DantoriusD actually.. yeah Even 6 stacks in 1 ultimate Not a big problem

[@ohmygodratatui]

​@@DantoriusDActually yes, the original kit has a little heal in it, so we can run Acheron + 2 Nihi + 1 Harmony. You know how insane the limited harmony chars are

[@DantoriusD]

@@ohmygodratatui that Kit was not even Playtested so i wouldnt refer it as a "Nerf". In his OG Leak he was suppose to Heal "by little" and also gave Def Shred instead of Vuln. But that kit never made it into Beta Testing.

[@ohmygodratatui]

@@DantoriusD yeah but that's what originally makes people interested in him. Now all his selling points are "best in slot for Acheron". He only out-perform 4* debuffer by a small amount without his sig. He can't even be good with DOT teams. At this point I think we should pull BS instead for more diverse team building.

[@gardevoirmaster5743]

He would be fun to use with Dr.Ratio! I’m excited to try him with ratio and Acheron!!!

[@TutTuT.]

If you guys wanna see how good he is, Cornflake has done a comparison between E0S1 Acheron with JQ + Pela and E2S1 Acheron with Pela + Sparkle in MOC (against Argenti). Both comps used 1 cycle (with sustain). The point about how he is only a massive improvement for one character does stand though. He's a sidegrade to RM in DOT (good if your RM is glued to a break team) and, while he's indeed better than Pela for Ratio, Pela is enough for now. E0S0 Jiaoqiu is however, on par with E1S1 Topaz for Ratio. So if you like Ratio but aren't a Topaz fan, I'd say it's definitely an option. Again, based on available showcases. I personally think he's worth a try if you have Acheron so I'm getting him in the end (despite being salty about him not being a healer anymore. Come on, his ult animation looks like he buffs his allies...)

[@RuTo94]

He’s good and all but if you already have Silver Wolf and Pela I don’t really think you should pull for him unless you really love Acheron or want your ultimate on Acheron 2-3 turns early. I love my Acheron she’s probably the strongest character I have with her build and light come for F2P but with the upcoming banners I have to save for those 😂

[@chaotic-ilusium8363]

Im pulling him because : pretty men.

[@silimoore6659]

Here he is, the healer! And ofc more importantly, First!

[@maidzenitsu8612]

So sad the "healer" does not heal:c

[@Lumiere192]

8:13 feixiao is worse than boothill and firefly unfortunately, and lingsha is only about a 5% upgrade from Gallagher in a firefly team and in every other team she’s actually worse than Gallagher bc of her sp generation being quite mediocre, both 2.5 characters are rather quite bad currently and 2.5 is more of a skip patch than 2.4 tbh

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

She’s way better cause she’s a hot chick

[@trickmonster7905]

If you have Silver Wolf: Skip If you don’t have Silver Wolf and wanna improve your Acheron: Pull I’m pulling personally

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

I have SW and I'm still pulling.❤️

[@trashercraft2636]

SW is good but aoe debuff is way better

[@shiryuavabel3494]

Aoe and ult every cycle is way better

[@dante19890]

silverwolf isnt even close . She is off the acheron team when he gets here

[@trickmonster7905]

@@dante19890 im just saying that the increase isnt worth pulling a whole new character for IN MY OPINION

[@resolutogamer4859]

Let's remove the heal to profit from a more complete hero later 🤮🤮🤮

[@ABC-yj6cy]

Indeed. Typical hoyo tactic 😂

[@Friday-p13]

Exactly. Giving him minor healing in his kit then pair him up with a shielder like aventurine means that team will be unkillable and people will be skipping a lot of future units. I probably would.

[@geckogekko]

I have Acheron but even if I don’t I’m going to get him. I like him ❤

[@Lumiere192]

2:19 actually completely wrong here, it’s super easy, e2 Acheron is far less valuable now because of him and actually he makes her best team be robin + jiaoqiu even at e0 it’s better than sparkle + Pela at e2

[@Rahil-jh6rz]

Really? Can you tell me little more about it? Because acheron need two nihility character for her talent to activate at E0

[@omensoffate]

Far less valuable ? Cope

[@andrewcook4873]

I pulled HuoHuo and have a few jades left over so I might put a few pulls in for Jiaoqiu. I already have Acheron so I’ll probably skip wind Acheron and I already have Gallagher so I’ll probably skip Lingsha too, unless she turns out to have something really different about her. So 2.5 kinda is the skip patch for me.

[@shiablack5462]

2.5 is a skip patch........i need support more than dps and healer......already have firefly and acheron can clear endgame on autoplay

[@T3cton3]

hi! Love your videos but I really miss your HSR lore videos 😔

[@Taerae_bear]

Should I go for Sparkle lightcone or Jiaoqiu :(

[@serikazero128]

"the game isn't that hard", me as a week 1 player struggling to clear the latest version of end game content with max* and usually barely making it. If I didn't care about max stars, then, yes, the game is easy. This guy's problem is that he only supports 1 character, and that's Acheron. And, he isn't blowing the competition out of the water while doing it. That's why so many people don't like how he ended up as. You can make an argument that he buffs Dr. Ratio as well, but do not that his major buffs are for ult damage and Ratio does a lot with his follow ups. So, he is a very niche support. Unless you are a very big fan of Acheron which may or may not get power creep in the next 3 to 6 months, go for him otherwise, I'm seeing skipping as a better option for most of us

[@quastor749]

Power creep Acheron? Maybe by 4-5.0…. Power creeping her in a meaningful way means invalidating every other character

[@levi3248]

This isn’t true. He’s been shown to sometimes even be an improvement to topaz in some situations. He gives a 35% vulnerability and then an extra 15% ult vuln. It’s better for ults but 70% of his debuffing is available to every character, not just ult based character. He’s also a sidegrade to Ruan Mei in DOT

[@zteeldragon]

The unique and very powerful thing he and only he can do is applying debuff at the start of enemies turns, this turns out to overcap his "budget" since it pretty much put Acheron ulti charge on steroid so hoyo decide to tune him down. Personally I like a character that can slot into multiple type of team but the BIS of Acheron team is just hard to skip.

[@raiden3522]

a healer that doesn't heal... lol

[@unendingvoid]

Jiaoqiu aside from being best support for Acheron and sidegrade to Ruan Mei/Robin in DOT, he is also a sidegrade for Topaz in Ratio teams

[@insertnamehere2022]

Ez skip Acheron has so many options hes just not needed

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

Yet, he's the best support. Look at his gameplays😂

[@insertnamehere2022]

@@AIA222-yu5ml Ive seen his gameplay, I just dont care to replace my SW and pela for a chef that claims to be a healer with no healing in his kit 😂

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

@@insertnamehere2022 true, he's a fraud lol. But I'll have to pull him as I want the Yaoqing trio 😂

[@dante19890]

they are all cope tho. This is the definitive 5 star acheron support. He will increase her dmg the most and build up her stacks twice as fast

[@insertnamehere2022]

@@dante19890 Yeah theyre so cope that im getting full stars in all endgame modes with them 💀 he's a luxury character

[@Nakuweed-samurai]

Reason why I’m pulling for him : -almost pity so if win then good if not feixiao guaranteed (i don’t need more sparkle eidolon) -lack a second nihility (i use sampo and gui but they seem not fit in the team) -i want the captain and her crew mate to reunited !( kazuha and beidou EN va)

[@rileynortwood2336]

He sounds like he’d be good with black swan

[@momotsuyuonce9473]

if you dont have acheron or not planning to get acheron must have, if not EASY SKIP he's pretty much replaceable in any other team comp aside for Acheron.

[@modplayer727]

yea for real about heal , i mean they told like best Healer ect ect yet i didnt saw any talent or skill to heal XDD

[@sahinaminsil]

So SW with sampo lc or jiaq with his f2p BiS f2p LC? Both at E0 ofcourse

[@tomatorama]

Do you know if his ultimate that ‘burn dot’ can build up feixiao’s stacks? Aka the allies attacking enemies stacks thanks!

[@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi]

For Feixiao it's allies taking an 'action,' so no, burn doesn't count.

[@dante19890]

IF you have acheron just get him.

[@milmil5350]

He will be powecrept. It's just a matter of how long we have to wait before it happens.

[@g6a0912]

with that point of view you won't ever pull

[@Ordell1991]

What kind of chef who insisted he is not a chef. But instead a healer. Then, he proceed to keep talking about food. 🤣 What kind of chef who dislike coriander. I like coriander. It's good for my chicken soup. Without it, I feel something missing and lack appetite. It's also what doctor recommend to managing Blood Sugar Levels, Supports Immunity, Enhance Gut Health, etc. Just add some coriander and my soup will be perfect. 🤭 Jiaoqiu is kinda cute. What if he smell Durian? What will he say? What is his facial expression will be? Coriander smell is nothing compare to Durian. IYKYK.

[@potatochobit]

he is getting nerfed. good.

[@jjrosa6163]

Who is he good for if not acheron? 😅

[@wallnut7624]

1 min no views? Damn dude fell off.

[@ferry2045]

i got e2 acheron but im still contemplating whether i should pull for sparkle and jiaoqiu or e2 feixiao

[@Lumiere192]

Feixiao sucks, pull jq he’s a huge Improvement even for e2

[@speedrunner3312]

@@Lumiere192 Oh yeah someone as strong as Acheron as a Hunt character sucks? You are so wrong buddy lol. Feixiao is gonna be cracked.

[@yanuwwuu]

@@speedrunner3312Her current kit sucks ass lol. She has to be majorly buffed to even hold a candle to Boothill or Acheron.

[@speedrunner3312]

@@yanuwwuu Well most character's kits that suck ass before release end up being rebalanced and become op like they should in the actual patch release. She is one of the 6 Xianzhou Luofu Generals, they have to make her worthy of that title. Otherwise that will be a massive disappointment smh.

[@ABC-yj6cy]

I saw another video saying that getting 177+ EHR guarantees debuff application in MoC. Is that correct?

[@suwoh.c1977]

Correct, you need 177.8 ehr to have 100% chance to land debuff against everything currently in the game.

[@Nakuweed-samurai]

@@suwoh.c1977but to reach that amount of ehr you definitely need an 5 star lc or cracked ehr rolls so 140 is enough if not using 5 star lc with ehr in it

[@DantoriusD]

​@@suwoh.c1977ngl 178 EHR is freaking brutal to get without his S1. Even with Sampo LC S5, EHR Chest and 10% from Planar Bonus you would need ~57 EHR. Thats an Average of 12 EHR per piece. Which are 2 Rolls

[@DantoriusD]

​@@suwoh.c1977 which is really hard to get without his S1. If your using Sampo LC S5 you need an Average of 12 EHR per piece. Which are 2 Rolls into every Piece.

[@fhadhirollal4445]

does anyone know if Lingsha is good or not in Firefly Team ??..

[@maidzenitsu8612]

Really good, she’s a better Gallagher, but similar to jiao isn’t really NEEDED, but if you want her , you should go for her!!

[@fhadhirollal4445]

@@maidzenitsu8612 Thank you.

[@sahinaminsil]

Rn Lingsha is not a must have for Firefly but that can change at v3.

[@dante19890]

duh thats what she is for

[@Lumiere192]

5:24 not really it only matters for him at e2 otherwise his damage is just shit regardless

[@necasa4919]

In sum, he is a very good pull at E0 and a sidegrade at E2. BiS for Acheron but not by a large margin, so if you clear content effectively now, he may not be a profitable pull unless you actually need the stacks he gives to Acheron.

[@levi3248]

It is by a large marge. Check out isummons video, he does the calcs and Jiaoqiu’s buffing is a lot higher than other characters, AND he gives much faster stacking

[@necasa4919]

@@levi3248 I did check that one, but I just don't see it. Def reduction is never below 20% compared to DMG Vulnerability, so the damage won't be much different compared to Pela. Together they are the strongest sure, that's why for E0 Acheron is so juicy, but once you add in a harmony and E2, I doubt the difference will be that meaningful (though I am still eager on his next video exploring this). I am not saying he is bad or weak, but at the end of the day one must be mindful of where they put their pulls in. I don't want to waste my chances on him only to find out that I sacrificed Feixiao just so my Acheron could be "a little bit better" when she didn't really need it anyway. The debate is not about whether or not he is good or bad, but whether or not you are willing to waste your pulls on improving a team that, maybe, is already performing decently.

[@Hayitham424]

​@@necasa4919 lets say jq and pela have the same amount of total damagw dealt when paired with acheron. Even if your acheron is E2 the fact that he can stack her ult faster that would make a big difference already. I dont understand why would you prefer to use pela with E2 acheron?

[@necasa4919]

@@Hayitham424 It's not that I want to use Pela on Acheron, it's that I don't want to miss out on another more interesting character if Pela is just slightly worse than Jiaoqiu. It's not like Jiaoqiu makes Acheron busted the same way Ruan Mei does for Firefly

[@levi3248]

@@necasa4919 def reduction is never below 20% when you compare the same amount, but Jiaoqiu does provide more vulnerability than Pela does def reduction. At E0s0 he gives 50% whilst Pela gives 40% def reduction, and has 100% uptime on it with ease. But I get what you’re saying. I think people are underestimating the boost he gives Acheron, as well as other teams. People are saying he’s stuck in Acheron teams, but he’s been shown to be a sidegrade to Ruan Mei and robin in DOT, and even better than topaz in ratio teams depending on the situation. BUT if you’re looking for another DPS, or you’re not interested in improving your Acheron, then he would be a skip considering Feixiao is coming (although she looks kinda weak at the moment, hopefully she gets buffed in V3). I wouldn’t call him an overall skip, since his benefit for Acheron is crazy (it’s been shown that E0 Acheron + JQ clears at the same speed as E2 Acheron + sparkle) and he’s still really good for a lot of other teams, but he’s not the most needed character, especially if you don’t have Ruan Mei for example, or are lacking DPS, or just don’t feel the need to improve acheron

[@Onii-Chan-UwU]

Even if someone paid me to pull for him...I still won't pull for him ..😂😂 He gives gay vibes just like argenti 😂😂😂

[@peterkuever4069]

Ok😐

[@sooshie8761]

Username checks out n fragile masculinity

[@Onii-Chan-UwU]

@@sooshie8761 atleast im not GAY farting rainbows

[@sooshie8761]

@@Onii-Chan-UwU Good luck communicating with REAL LIFE people if you think like that, incel.

[@scopeyui240]

Aventurine is more gay than jq and argenti