the history of Genshin Impact's most nerfed character.. (Reupload)

[@semconteudo391]

It funny how venti was so broken that they needed to change most of the enemies mechanics just because of him

[@shutup1037]

Nah, just their weight value

[@antifever5336]

@@shutup1037 also, dash move, throwing projectiles( while in the vortex), and also summon

[@Nickk_idkk]

similar thing happened in another hyv game (Honkai Impact 3rd) when a character called Herrscher of the Void came out, they tend to do this

[@TheKenny2113]

@@Nickk_idkk Valkyrie Chariot 🤝Venti Being able to group small enemies in a game that turned into beefy dmg sponge enemy dps check

[@b.w.s3165]

And made the entire game's combat feel less impactful and more bullet-spongy as a result. Seriously, enemy design, outside of visuals, has only went downhill since Inazuma to THIS DAY. The reason combat in games like Deep Rock Galactic work is because you can visibly see and FEEL the impact of your bullets deconstructing the body and organs of the bugs, and the way they recoil from damage taken and react to what you do. When you take that away and make every enemy an immovable tank, you no longer feel like you're "fighting", you just feel like you're causing damage numbers to pop up.

[@limhx-6734]

they really made enemies immovable damage sponges to counter venti

[@kims4149]

Venti wasn't a character but a cheat code tbh

[@limhx-6734]

@@kims4149 I want my sucky Archon to suck again, right now he just sucks at sucking well enough

[@UltimateGenosyko]

@@kims4149 still pretty scummy. You’re not really getting what you paid for. If you got Venti because of his ability to group enemies, and then a few months later the ability for enemies to get grouped up gets negated then that’s a clear bait and switch.

[@hailthequeenFM]

And they also proceed to create Nahida, Neuvillette, Furina, and Arlechino. ​@kims4149

[@krusher737]

​@@UltimateGenosykoI use raiden shogun, arlecchino, venti and bennett in a team for fontaine domains. Not hard to get the enemies in the void if you draw them toward you like the mechs. Other enemies do get sucked into it and that makes things easier but overall most trouble i could find would be having to use Arlecchino's burst to heal because of not dodging in time.

[@Mokkeee]

JUSTICE FOR THE ANEMO ARCHON. WE MAY NOT BE AS HYPE AS BEFORE BUT WHENEVER HE APPEARS IN A EVENT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HELP BUT SMILE WHENEVER THEY SEE HIM

[@magiveem]

TSUKASA PFPPPPPPPP ALSO I USE HIM STILL-

[@igitnisaplit2295]

What if he gets buffed on his second story🤧

[@Jinni-iras17514]

new endgame 👀

[@ruangois1875]

WE WANT BUFFS, REWORKS AND A BETTER SIGNATURE APPEARANCE FOR HIM

[@MaliUrum]

he's a cutie patootie, my cute lil alcoholic 🥹

[@jajathenewking6131]

Venti definitely needs a buff for being the anemo archon he truly doesn't feel like it compared to the anemo units we have especially Kazuha.

[@zzzkeiii]

True, its kinda unfair tbh since the other archons are all the best at their roles but Venti? powercreeped by a human samurai (i dont hate Kazuha, i even whaled for him but lorewise its pretty weird)

[@jadecoolness101]

@@zzzkeiii yeah. It's not so much that the character needs to be thebest of the element (though that typically happens too), but it should be the best at the element's sort of "archetype." Best example, Zhongli is the best shielder in the game, bar none. But... He only shields, so he's not really all that Meta in terms of power. He just makes the game very convenient.

[@zzzkeiii]

@@jadecoolness101 well i guess thats okay too since venti is the best at cc (altho i wish we will have a char that applies anemo like raiden's or nahida's (using skills not burst but i guess thats be too op))

[@jajathenewking6131]

@@zzzkeiii *cough* Kazuha *cough*

[@jadecoolness101]

@@zzzkeiii He's really not best at cc... there are enemies than cannot be pulled by Venti's burst, that Kazuha CAN suck in with his skill. Venti is actually tragic.

[@immortalinferno8809]

Let's not forget that venti had great potential as an anemo supporter especially with constellations, but Xiao, whose entire kit revolved around aoe plunging and greatly benefited from grouped up enemies, was made to have PERFECT hit boxes to NOT work with venti ult despite his plunge animation even depicting verticality with the spear effects

[@sergeanthuman]

But wanderer tho

[@IgorGrazina]

@@sergeanthuman Wanderer works very well with him, sadly he released during Hoyo's war against both Freeze and Venti No signs of improvements since then

[@emranao]

⁠@@IgorGrazinaoh, what happened back then (freeze and venti) i was not playing

[@cyaniire6924]

​​@@emranao Consecrated beasts happened. Enemies that have very high freeze resistance, do high damage, and can't be crowd controlled. ...we had 4 of them in a single chamber half once

[@rowsaurus]

​@rando__mmdamn, that's crazy.

[@AEZRIS]

I love how I hear the phrase "You can never go wrong with an Archon" but it never applies to Venti because he got so damn nerfed

[@drextrey]

He can still be used but only in freeze teams and not at the boss battles in spiral abyss. Yeah, venti not needed for VV shred as any Anemo can take this role. Especially potent are the healers, Jean and Sayu. Kazuha is better for most use...

[@Anthony-jg6pg]

@@drextrey Venti is still broken for floors 9-11, its just floor 12 he suffers because it's huge dps checks, and kazuha fits better as a damage amplifier. Also unfourtantely, floor 12 isn't mob focused either.

[@rajaryan-fe1oy]

Man I get it, they had to nerf him but didn't have to make him obsolete, specially when there's no shortage of meta breaking characters already in the game, my boy was done really dirty

[@FontaineLovers]

they did him dirty? 😳

[@nemoralia]

they didn't make him obsolete, or rather they reverted that back in 2.1. he still pulls most enemies in (or ALL enemies except bosses if they're frozen/petrified) and they still occasionally release new bosses that don't move from their spot a lot. thanks to Venti, i didn't have to learn the fatui operatives' moves, both Coppelia and Coppelius are a joke, and i have Kazuha free for the second half of the abyss. his ult also eats through the Baptist's shields pretty fast so he's good for the second half as well. stop listening to the doomposters and try using him for yourself, he's still strong and super fun to play!

[@zadokutah2315]

​​@@nemoraliaHe did tho. Ever since 2.x or so, Practically Sucrose & Kazuha can do what Venti does BUT Better. There is absolutely no reason to use Venti over Kazuha or Sucrose unless you simply want to. This isn't "because they Buff on top of CC" but by simply how their CC Works. Kazuha & Sucrose can still group immovable Enemies without the need of Freeze unlike Venti that need them to get Frozen before they can get sucked by His Q, because His E doesn't have any form of CC. Granted Sucrose needs C1 or Sacrificial to have Her CC actually reliable, but its a fair comparison since She's 4 Stars. Mind you I'm not hating on Venti, neither doomposting, because I'm also irritated how Venti got so many indirect nerf to the point He became obsoleted before even I can fully experience His Cheats lmao

[@flamingswordfiery]

I do use him everytime i abyss though. Vs c6 sucrose (dies faster) he is my better option. Though i built sucrose, venti energy fills faster than sucrose. And in artifact/mat dungeons he makes it quicker.

[@kirisuma2186]

@@zadokutah2315 oh there is... if you don't have Kazuha but have Venti xD

[@Chrisgarciam]

Venti is my favorite Archon, and I pulled him even after I got Kazuha just out of love for the character. Still, I hate what they did to him, he's an Archon after all, and they made a random samurai (no hate towards Kazu boy, I love him) stronger and more valuable than the God of wind. Same thing with what they did to freeze teams. As a veteran player and as someone who used to enjoy the Abyss bc of replayability with different teams, I hate what they've been doing recently, not making the abyss harder but just more annoying overall.

[@vincikeeper1581]

He's not random.

[@Chrisgarciam]

@@vincikeeper1581 In my eyes he is, at least when compared to Venti, but again, I meant no hate towards Kazuha, he's one of my favorites too.

[@vincikeeper1581]

@@Chrisgarciam you're right, in your eyes

[@Chrisgarciam]

@@vincikeeper1581 👍🏻

[@Patroclus27]

@@vincikeeper1581 listen. Kazu is my favourite character. But he is some rando mortal.

[@TheDhanaMC]

Hoyo is the Celestia that Venti hates all along.

[@not_2600_years_old]

Fruits taste terrible in Celestia :[

[@N3R0WAIFU]

ONCE A VENTI MAIN ALWAYS A VENTI MAIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Dragonape12]

Fr Always Once A ANEMO MAIN ALWAYS AN ANEMO MAIN from Venti to Xiao to Kazuha and maybe in the future Scara

[@TheOfficialVentii]

Samee

[@Sleepy_Food_Lover]

YESSSSS

[@makii7408]

​@@Dragonape12traitor

[@Dragonape12]

@@makii7408 wdym?

[@sMv-Afjal]

Venti and Freeze both are nerfed hard, abyss nowadays always have 2 floor mob enemy and then a boss, and vice versa for other side.

[@deadpaul6587]

Fr, i remember the days where i used to whine about how broken the morgana comp was

[@BenDover-uf8gg]

Also the bosses have cyro res so it just makes it inefficient to play

[@wantu7816]

Bosses are not usually a problem for Ayaka freeze unless it's really cryo resistant or immune which has been the trend in versions 3-4 of spiral abyss rotations.

[@elmuffintristea4523]

@@wantu7816 Why would you use a reaction that doesn't work against bosses?

[@wantu7816]

@elmuffintristea4523 because it's pretty good. One or two elemental bursts are usually enough.

[@ayrtonsantana7185]

As a Venti main since day 1… yes it hurts to listen to the truth, however he will still be permanently in my part, I dream for a buff at least for his constellations. Even for lore sake, he deserves some more love.

[@ayrtonsantana7185]

Unnecessary exposition: I love the guy so much I even have him tattooed in my leg.

[@not_2600_years_old]

@@ayrtonsantana7185 Aww, a tattoo, really??

[@ayrtonsantana7185]

@@not_2600_years_old whats your instagram, ill show it

[@Rios-ov3xi]

Honestly, the theater makes venti feel way better. You can pick floors with groupanle enemies and pick him with 3 bad characters to hard carry.

[@italk2much]

I love venti bro I just don’t know why they tend to dumb him down to some drunk and goofy guy (mostly in fanon but also in game) as well as nerfing his character in game- Aaa

[@zoeb3573]

I genuinely think Venti is one of if not the best Archon, he's the perfect mix of genuinely caring for his people and wanting to help (Nahida), wanting to mingle with them and feel close to them (Furina) and allowing them to deal with their problems themselves when he trusts they can manage without him, allowing them to become stronger in the process (Zhongli). Unironically the best deity in the game. AND he's a goofy, silly guy? What more do you want?

[@italk2much]

@@zoeb3573 we stan venti fr

[@not_2600_years_old]

Maybe I dumb *myself* down, on purpose.

[@ShadowEclipse777]

​@@zoeb3573 don't forget the most important thing of all: he's a femboy

[@RavynUnderscoreArtYT]

Venti main here! I have loved Venti ever since I saw him. He was one of the main reasons I played and I joined genshin impact in ver 1.6 soon after I saw his character trailer, I loved him in the main archon quest, and i loved how he played (he is the only bow user i enjoy playing) and I worked hard to collect wishes for venti, and even when i took a long break from genshin in ver 2.3 (?), I still enjoyed looking at genshin context, especially venti stuff. I came back in ver 3.8 and Venti's banner soon came out with Wriotheasly and I happily won my 50/50 and got Venti. I was so ecstatic and i quickly built him up. However, with how a lot of the current enemies are built, which are unmoveable blocks, it felt like they were made to be built against Venti- and I suppose that isnt wrong. However, I still carried on and learned how to adapt and play Venti surrounding these enemies and such (For example: using burst right on top of the unmoveable enemies, and moving and attacking strategically with my party to where they stay in the black hole the entire time). Still i couldn't help but sigh in how sometimes it feels like the game is built against venti. He is definitely nerfed, but he still is an amazing and powerful character, and no matter how he plays i still love him. Any Venti mains out there?

[@-toriizaka46]

future venti main here!

[@Waltuhonyoutube]

All this blabber for a game character is honestly sad. Respectfully

[@boshlovely2002]

⁠​⁠@@WaltuhonyoutubePeople talk like this about sports, fishing, piano, literally any hobby that they’re passionate about It’s sad to act like it’s a bad thing to have a hobby you’re passionate about, respectfully

[@Leon_LF]

Nerfing characters like this on gacha games is craazyy, imagine spending hundreds of dollars to get a character just for it to become bad later

[@korrokemono9006]

that's literally the fate of EVERY gacha though... powercreep is a killer. doesn't matter how good or popular a character is, they will inevitably be outclassed by new characters, and in order to keep those newer characters from curb stomping everything the content has to get harder, pushing out the older characters. If they were to then go back and buff older characters to be more in line, no one would pull for the new ones and the cashflow would stop. It's the unfortunate nature of the genre, they need old characters like venti to become obsolete so that players will pay for the new ones.

[@Leon_LF]

@@korrokemono9006 Yes yes I know all of this, and that's one of the many reasons why I think gachas and gambling are one of the worsts things created by society.

[@r.d.6290]

Imagine farming blizzard stray set for freeze teams only for freeze to be nerfed to the oblivion

[@DragonoftheDarknessFlame]

@@korrokemono9006 Eh. Look how long it took for Venti to finally fall. It was literal years and multiple regions of dominance. Also, that's not true. FGO is extremely popular and proves you wrong on every front by constantly buffing older characters. People will summon for whatever they wanna summon for

[@entegi]

Genshin "powercreep/nerfs" are VERY tame compared to a lot of gachas, even compared to other hoyo games

[@kazuu_44]

honestly it’s sad how bad venti is. every archon is supposed to be the BEST of their element- and that’s true for every other archon. nahida; best dendro support, basically a requirement for dendro teams raiden; best electrons dps AND on field carry zhongli; best shielder overall and let’s be honest, the only really good and versatile geo character furina; literally redefined the meta, amazing buffer, amazing off field dmg/hydro app, etc venti; worse than a 4 star released at the same time while, yes, venti is technically still the best at crowd control.. that very same crowd control, and cc in general, has become so useless it’s literally better to use a random 4 star (sucrose) than the literal god of wind.. even ayaka teams prefer sucrose and kazuha bc they provide more than JUST cc and a bit of er. plus with freeze, enemies are kept still, so you don’t need the lvl of cc venti provides. pull them to one spot quickly, freeze them, and kill them before they can get away

[@flamingswordfiery]

But venti sucking wind poweeerrr is better than sucrose.

[@flamingswordfiery]

With sucrose if you miss you miss, with venti if you miss and the mobs are near enough they shreded. Kazuha, i use it on bigger boss for shred- no crowd control.

[@seraranasisca2434]

*just some corrections : -nahida is not a requirement for dendro teams (except some niche ones) but she's indeed can be a significant upgrade -raiden is not the best electro dps. Back then, if you don't have bennett or your bennett is occupied somewhere, she's as good as dead. In aggravate, you have clorinde, keqing and yae, and due to her standard icd on her burst, she won't proc as much aggravate for fischl (she's still good there, but other option exist). Sure, she's still the best hyperbloom proccer, I guess. - Furina's hydro app can be described as "inconsistent". Amazing hydro app is just misinformation at this point, she's not xinqiu. Most teams bring furina because of her dmg buff -venti at 1.x is an absolute beast. People whining at floor 11 in 1.4 abyss because if you don't have venti, it's literally hell and felt harder than floor 12. At that time, most enemies are suck-able, sucrose's cc is just not it. -ayaka team never preferred sucrose if you have venti. Aside from vv (which venti can do), what does she gonna do? Em buff is useless for freeze teams and your ttds might be comes from your hydro instead. Besides, er refund on venti is pretty useful for both ayaka and ganyu who's pretty energy hungry (especially the former). To this day, ganyu freeze prefers venti more than kaz if you're up against mobs (if you're up against bosses, you'd rather play melt anyway)

[@veliona_vollerei_]

Zhongli being the best Geo aged badly with Xilonen being released lmao 😂.

[@keefyboi5307]

​@veliona_vollerei_ Nah Zhongli is still best geo because he can consistently applies geo with his Pillars while Xilonen can't

[@limhx-6734]

10:03 WAIT THEY MADE THE INAZUMA ENEMIES FUCKING SUCKABLE?????? 2 YEARS AFTER I LEFT?????

[@caedutiger9362]

🤨📸

[@deadpaul6587]

No bro this happened in 2.1 12:00

[@Evitzeoshowerthoughts]

no it happened alongside the specter nerf. which was like, 2.2 or something idk

[@trollking6315]

Shouldnt have quit, you filthy quitter.

[@mackeralsmackers]

I always wondered why the weakest mob in Inazuma, the grunts, were so dang heavy, why every single one of them were so resistant to knockback.

[@soos.mpvier3187]

16:00 ventis exploration was also nerfed by the windcatcher, giving the same thing for practically free and a different cool down.

[@Aman-km6cv]

That cooldown is insane tho💀

[@MrSandMan961]

They need to introduce some sort of stun mechanic where big units can be knocked around after enough consistent damage or elemental reactions hit so they can be carried by stuff by Venti's black hole cause just making them damage sponges made the game feel worse for everyone overall.

[@r.d.6290]

Something like a stagger bar that is common for newest arpgs and for some gachas like wuthering waves

[@Kiana_Sirin]

They could at least let us choose where to deploy the black hole rather than it just shoot wherever hoyo fated it to be

[@randomness.stupidness]

RIGHT

[@King_Candy_Corn]

Funny how future balancing issues is a problem but power creep is not Like so many characters are bound to be forgotten due to this

[@lum_berry111]

@@07uu67dehya has a niche now with neuvillette (c0 specifically) and furina made her slightly better so at least she has that. qiqi is pretty hopeless though

[@Aman-km6cv]

​@@lum_berry111Qiqi has a place in new clorinde team with skyward blade.

[@Aman-km6cv]

No character would be truly forgotten, people still play keqing quickbloom. Diluc made a comeback after Xianyun came.

[@amilo5]

That is the name of the game of a gatcha. It is literally the meaning of the word. Old charakters will be replaced by better ones to keep you on whaling.

[@King_Candy_Corn]

@@amilo5 but won't that just hurt f2p player tho?

[@cherry414]

6:43 I will NEVER FORGET how hated Kazuha was when he was still only leaked. Everyone just told each other to not get Kazuha because he's just an expensive version of Sucrose and he isn't worth getting if you have Venti or Sucrose built. That aged absolutely poorly because a lot of people skipped him and was begging for his rerun afterwards 😂 I got him when he was first released because of the voice actor, but I wasn't planning on maining him. Up until now, he's still in all of my teams

[@jex-the-notebook-guy1002]

I wasn't aware so i got Jean

[@ProbllyHanazaki]

As someone who has mained venti from 1.0 i really think mohoyo has smth for Venti. There is no 2nd story quest and..a best in slot artifact for him. Venti is a Sub dps.VV and emblem which is bis for venti are supportive artifacts. A sub dps character with supportive artifacts..idk man its like Bennet with 4 set of crimson which works but not the ideal kit yk what i mean. I dont think its venti over . Hoyo must have something for him.

[@El_DoorsGoblino]

They would rerun him more if it wasn't for the Chinese Law which is depressing

[@jadecoolness101]

@@El_DoorsGoblino no they wouldn't. Every archon only reruns once per patch cycle. Hoyo does not care about china's law on femboys, or they would've altered Lyney before he released.

[@seeker4924]

​@@El_DoorsGoblino I'm not sure I even want context

[@ChishioAme]

@@seeker4924 TL;DR is China (apparently) has a law stating video game characters _must_ be readily identifiable, visually, as male or female and there's a rumor of dubious veracity that Hoyo was investigated because Venti is, well, more feminine than like half the female cast despite, ostensibly, being male. And it's supposedly why there's never been a femoby of his level since; even Lyney, despite his design, is still readily identifiable as male.

[@iosis9324]

​@@ChishioAmeFreminet: 🧍 I'll tell you a secret, Hoyoverse almost completely does not care about the Chinese Law, they violate them left and right. Seriously, I advise you to study what Hoyoverse cannot do as a Chinese company, but what they do anyway and do not receive any punishment for it, most likely due to the fact that they are literally officially part of the Chinese party.

[@zSTALKn]

When Venti gets nerfed nobody bats an eye on that. When Neuvilette gets nerfed hoyo almost gets sued the day they do it. I don’t think he finds that fair.

[@kofabillion]

lol, I like the last sentence. Sounds similar to the scarlet witch in doctor strange 2, kinda.

[@lancer9257]

it's not even the same issue venti just suffered from meta changes and new variations of enemies neuvillette, even if u remove his spin to win tech, he's still the same as he is. people are mad cuz if that's a bug they should've remove it 8months ago before "fixing"

neuvilette's mechanics got nerfed in the literal sense which amounts to false advertisement and therefore can be legally liable and be sued by customers, venti got nerfed in the sense that he is an old product which simply got powecrept slowly by newer products hence there is no legal grounds to sue for false advertisement

[@jet-surge2891]

The difference is that They tried to change neuvilette and everyone caught them. They never changed Venti, they just evolved the game and made him not great longterm.

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@lancer9257 They literally changed Venti mechanically though. Under the guise of a "bugfix" the position of his ultimate was placed higher in the air, making low-hitting melee characters no longer able to consistently hit sucked up enemies. This was, honestly, far bigger of a change than Neuvillette getting his spin removed lmao.

[@elitelitwick2860]

Venti deserves to have a secondary charged attack that gaives a small cc effect or something. His C1 could even have increased the area of it slightly with the extra arrows.

[@bongopongo]

His charge attack should make a suction effect doing extra damage and pulling almost every enemie. Could have also just made his tap skill appear doing half the damge

[@GabeIG]

just like himeko/herta before pure fiction wish they would add a game mode where venti could shine again

[@ihateads1023]

there will be a new game mode next patch(permenant end game), maybe he could be used there

[@emery120]

IMAGINARIUM THEATRE HOPEFULLY

[@GabeIG]

​@@ihateads1023 Yeah I'm aware I saw leaks 2 months ago still looks very underwhelming after the livestream showcase not to mention we're getting less rewards overall​

[@pythiusplaysgames]

I've loved Venti as a character so much and was pretty dismayed by the fact that Hoyo seemed dead set on reducing his usability. Some characters have had their roles expand over time, and I'm hoping that Hoyo revisits Venti to give him a second wind.

[@randomness.stupidness]

he IS the second wind actually no hes THE WIND

[@editedrectangle1385]

Waiting for venti's redemption after the main archon quests Day 1405

[@hagarrastamnz596]

I find myself using Venti as much as i use Kazuha, tbh, i recommend having both.

[@randomness.stupidness]

id use both if i didnt have only one update: I GOT KAZUHAJAHAJSJAJ

[@Waltuhonyoutube]

Terrible recommendation

[@someoneyoullnevermeetinrea4949]

@@Waltuhonyoutube ehhh not really, having two characters that fill the same niche is good in terms of using both of them in different abyss teams. So if you like both characters good to get both. Also I find using Venti for the monolith floors in the abyss is very helpful.

[@skeletonwar4445]

Dogshit recommendation. To the average person there's no reason to ever use Venti over Kazuha in 99.5% of situations.

[@King67889]

Yeah venti and kazuha love all charcters love❤.

[@SeravySensei]

Venti is still my most used unit lol. Usually with Klee too. I'm pissed for Venti not pulling her bombs when he pulls other objects like enemy drops but they are that good even without the combo. At least outside f12 abyss but that place isn't fun anyway.

[@SagaFraga]

I’ve been playing since day 1. Venti, Shene, Ganyu, and Kokomi is a supremely underrated kit.

[@marisolgarcia8182]

Something that should be added is that sucrose and c2 kasuha gain massive value with dendro do to the EM they provide making the better anemo unit for dendro teams

[@Karzakus]

"for many players, they either stuck around, or stopped playing" ...I mean yeah... those are the only two options lmfao

[@jex-the-notebook-guy1002]

Or do both

[@danmarkdelarmente3990]

i’m a Venti haver, never had Kazuha, and I use the Anemo Archon despite having these issues… regardless… Hoyoverse had to release immovable enemies because that’s just how busted and overpowered Venti really is, but Venti will forever be the best at sucking enemies and making them stay in one place. He had his fair share of his time, and he’s giving the other characters to shine. He’ll forever be an amazing character to me

[@Chilldays-vz1vq]

i decided to pull for venti and I don't regret it at all he's still amazing in domains and anything else i use him for so i refuse to let him go off of my team but also its kinda hilarious how he kinda got the gojo treatment from hoyo because of how he was the strongest one so hoyo essentially tried to kill his usefulness

[@BlackGateofMordor]

He was too strong, and because of that his kit doesn't really offer anything else because Mihoyo rightfully understood how strong he was. If they had made the suction weaker and given him something else I think he'd still be top tier.

[@fish-j5q]

even if they gave him a talent that gave more elemental resistance shred that could stack with VV, he could still be meta today

[@robertoalexandermendezmore408]

​@@fish-j5qsad thing, he have... is his C6

[@Aman-km6cv]

​@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 most his constellation are anemo traveller's copied and slapped. There's no way to fix that.

[@kennethM]

they also legally were not allowed to nerf characters because it was illegal in the country where their company was based at the time to change characters in gacha games after the sale to make them weaker.

[@thelaw11]

This was at full display when Neuvilette was launched . His "fidget spinner" bug was the reason why so many people pulled for him . But when the company patched the bug , the people were enraged at that and threatened to sue the company on the basis of Consumer Fraud . They rolled back the patch along with 1,600 primogems to all players

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@thelaw11 The same thing happened to Venti though, but because nobody played him anymore, nobody complained. His ult's center point was placed higher in the air under the guise of a "bugfix" but it was just a straight nerf after his release.

[@KontauriC07]

Still a Venti main since 1.0. It's just sad Fontaine characters are all so OP now but Venti is now mehhh. I truly hope there's a massive Buff

[@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem]

Same here. I don't have him yet, started 4.7 (and I'm struggling to save lol, gambling addiction) but he's my favorite character and I really wish he was especially OP, like the other archons. I'm thinking of just adding him into my one team to be a constsnt Pyro applicator since there's no off field Pyro other than Xiangling I can use it in lol

[@go0d4yo]

He’s been my main for 3 years and he’s never left my team.. I am simply Barbatos #1 religious follower 🙏🚶‍♀️‍➡️🧎‍♀️‍➡️

[@not_2600_years_old]

Aww! Does that mean you'll give me some wine?

[@Wmann]

I got him during his first rerun back in early 2021, he was so broken. Can’t believe so much has changed for him now…

[@Akazas.]

Favorite archon, favorite element, uses a bow, my favorite story, waiting for his banner no matter how long i have to wait..... Hes nerfed but what does it matter 😅

[@ventilatorkinn]

i will forever be a venti main, no matter what happens. i hope i’ll get him c6 one day

[@asheclips3784]

it’s so frustrating to me, because venti is the only archon that was bested in his own field. zhongli is still the best shield, despite many shield characters getting released. raiden is still arguably the best electro battery and driver despite different electro characters having gotten released. nahida is the best dendro applier, despite many new dendro characters being released. furina is currently the best hydro sub-dps, if not the best sub-dps/support overall (rivaling that of even bennett). and venti is the only archon that was power crept almost immediately. he is a good anemo support, yes, but is easily replaceable by kazuha, xianyun or sucrose. it doesn’t make sense, because they still do character reruns. so if they didn’t make his kit as lacking as they did (in comparison to other supports), he’d most likely be a similar situation to raiden, who has great selling banners on each of her reruns. and so does zhongli and nahida. and i’m certain furina will as well.

[@randomness.stupidness]

furina quite literally changed the meta for good

[@rafaelcerchiaro7456]

I started to play genshin just because of Venti, i remember spending hours to gather Primogems to get him And it is indeed so sad that even being an archon he is in a really low tier compared to others But i still use him in my comps and even exploring Natlan!!!

[@GhostEmblem]

I feel like people are forgeting that aged like fine wine is a saying that came from aged like sour milk. This is the first time I've seen someone say not aged like fine wine when looking for an antithetical phrase.

[@Phantom_Zone]

Hoyo relased, Venti, Xiangling, Xinuqe, Fischl, Sucrose, Bennett in 1.0 Something that fuckin obliterated enemy mechanics and 4 star balance for unforeseeable future. Entire Sumeru roaster is a direct nerf to Bennett and his synergy with Dendro focused team. The fact that we still do not have an off field pyro applicator like Xiangling or a new four star hydro in the nation of hydro, is proof how much 1.0 characters obliterated balance of the game.

[@ThatRandomGirlOnTheInternet]

Venti was the very first 5* I ever pulled. I got him within my very first ten pull on all the way back on his first banner. I wasn't even familiar with gacha systems at the time. He became my favorite and main the moment I got him and had never left my team since. It was so sad to see all of this happening overtime, but I always found ways to make him work in the teams. Venti will always be the best and strongest character in my heart.

[@xvgarnet]

I use my venti to clear floors 9-11 of the abyss. For floor 12 he's pretty useless since they make sure to put bosses on both sides and he's not good with them. They really made sure to nerf him to the ground lol.

[@FluffyWing07]

Many Immovable enemies can be grouped up by venti if the enemy is frozen

[@xRey7anx]

Venti is my first five character and he was my first main and now he switched from main to support and he will never be replaced

[@trollar8810]

I mean honestly I just use venti in every abyss 8-11 as well as for exploration to just skip half the puzzles with venti+kazuha I agree that in abyss 12 he isnt the most useful character, but as someone who pulled him in 2.6 i think and - I do not regret the pull one bit

[@MidnightTheKitten]

Regardless of what Hoyoverse releases, Venti is untouchable as one of the best emotional supports in the game. His Serenitea Pot dialogue is peak meta. 💚💙

[@whydoineedname4932]

Became a venti main in 4.2 and am proud of myself :D

[@whydoineedname4932]

4.1 I mean

[@alitheakorogane]

Same! I had Venti on 4.2 too.

[@IlikeVenti-ei8dz]

This makes me kinda proud that I´m a Venti main

[@not_2600_years_old]

👑

[@mirufiyu4810]

I played because of Venti, C6-ed him. I felt my account was complete when I got all his cons for the past 3 years.

[@Deeznat69]

He's too broken in 1.0 he can even suck players artifacts in domains into the endless pit 😂😂

[@treyg2010]

All Archons and Fatuai leader should be meta. It's a shame what has happened to Venti.

[@irena4929]

ONE WITH WIND AND CLOUD 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@idkwhattoputhereheheheho]

yeah venti is wind archon after all of course he is the one with wind and cloud

[@sunnypa7101]

It's kazuha voice line.​@@idkwhattoputhereheheheho

[@Aman-km6cv]

FALLEN LEAVES, ADORN MY NIGHT 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@yachtman87]

You've made a sublime "watch while having dinner" video and im only 8 minutes in. Well done

[@monikaaaax3]

that's how you know a channel is good. If it makes good background noise, it's top tier

[@dusker_s]

thats what I'm doing rn lol

[@undercoverbreadbug2723]

As someone newish to the game, I really hate how my favorite characters tend to be trash or obsolete. It's making spiral abyss really bloody hard unless I just start focusing only on pure power on characters I don't even like.

[@khanhliuliu_]

dw the spiral abyss is friendly, definetely not powercreep as other gacha games

[@-toriizaka46]

just dont do floor 12 and youll be fine

[@eff-fume]

As someone who played Moryana since 2.0, without Kokomi or Kazuha (even if i had them) I have noticed how often I have benched this team since 3.0 for sure. I always thought freeze was basically inviolable, esp after the release of Kokomi and Kazuha, and while these two still make it manageable every other rotation, if these two are not on your account, the team is benched or a pain to play. I do think this make the overall game healthier but damn, I really was upped by mihoyo. The flaws were always laid bare, and having a team be this strong for over 2 years is still pretty insane, but of course some variety is necessary.

[@NeuvilletteHydroDragon]

We are still waiting for a buff for venti in the Khanri'ah rebellion era

[@Usernameis7]

I have him and I don’t regret pulling him, he does make that scenario he’s good in really easy. As well as synergies with my favorite character, wanderer. I think his nerf was a very unique case but plenty of characters have shifted in and out of the meta. Ganyu for example was practically the best on release and now struggles just like venti. However in Ganyus case she is a dps so it’s a bit different. I would like to see a video about the other 2 OG archons because they’ve faded in and out of relevancy, especially Zhongli.

[@GIOVI-C45]

wanderer main here how do you do a comp with both ? i was unsure if i should pull him since he is my favorite character but i missed the re runs

[@Usernameis7]

@@GIOVI-C45 well I just run him with Bennett and Faruzan, he benefits from both buffs as well and Scaras AoE encompasses ventis ult and the enemies being raised off the floor isn’t an issue so it’s convenient and practical.

[@elisalopez9324]

"especially zhongli" as if he isn't used with a lot of new units like Arlecchino, Neuvillette, Navia and Lyney 😂

[@Usernameis7]

@@elisalopez9324 oh I don’t use zhongli, don’t have him, and furina is better anyways. But I guess those three archons can each be swapped out depending on the situation.

[@ph0ton-h4i]

Zhongli is still absolutely relevant, his Abyss usage rate in 4.6 was 69.8%. With characters like Arlecchino who lowers her own HP or Neuvillette who relies on charged attacks he makes it for a veryyyy comfortable play since you don't need to worry about dying or getting interrupted, he's still the strongest shielder in the game.

[@Sezenian]

My boy T_T My one true main from Genshin's Start to Genshin's Finish T_T JUSTICE FOR THE ANEMO ARCHON!!!

[@GenesiisDavid]

I remember really wanting him and then when I got him most inuzuma enemies couldn't be lifted up lol.

[@ProfessionalRacist007]

I have always thought that Venti is very powerful from a lore perspective & what we see in his gameplay is not even 50% of his real power. I think what they can do to counter this nerfing problem is make new movesets & updates to Venti. He's an Archon ffs. Make it a lore reason. Venti is obviously not using this full power. Mihoyo can make new changes to the moveset & release a new story quest & say that Venti unlocked his full potential so now he plays differently & is overpowered. They have to do it cuz there's no way Wanderer Kazuha & Xiao are more powerful than the Anemo Archon himself.

[@alitheakorogane]

Venti main here. I still used him even though I have Kazuha. He shines in Spiral Abyss Floor 9-11 (especially that damned tower defense, the 4.7 Floor 11 Second Phase was a pain).❤

[@not_2600_years_old]

💚

[@steffy23456]

When I explore, I love using Venti and Kazuha

[@victoriakiwi7944]

I just need to get smth off my chest. Your voice is very calming 😭

[@turtle8231]

Venti being made irrelevant will always piss me off cuz he's such a good character with a fun kit. Like you're telling me they still let Furina and Kazuha run loose (even Xiangling and Xilo) but Venti was still rendered useless as soon as Kazuha came out

[@kynikou7655]

9:17 NOOOO THE MUSIC, YOUR LIE IN APRIL FLASHBACKS

[@skatemaster33]

Venti will always be the character that got me in the game, will always love him. I still play him because the black hole is too nice xd

[@xXEstelle_6912Xx]

I still want Venti because of his burst i want the black hole and store my elements

[@alidaaaaa7160]

Venti is my favorite character and the only one I've taken my wallet out for so far... I'm also pretty casual. I don't follow the meta I just like to have my favorite guys in my team or whatever is most fun... So that means most of the time I have Venti in my team. I think the fact that wanderer can fly more than the ANEMO ARCHON IS...something But the weight mechanic really makes venti kinda useless and it sucks man.

[@sigma20xx]

They had to nerf Venti. He was way to strong.😅 But what they should've done was raised his multipliers to keep him relative. I still use Venti to quickly clear floors 9 through 11.

[@a13xisc]

RAHH STILL ROCKING VENTI TILL THIS DAY

[@nathanielbaker4843]

5:21 HER LITTLE WHAT BOMBES 😭😭😭😭😭

[@lunerg775]

Isn’t that what it’s called?

[@wrathfuldemon3422]

I've played genshin at release, I got Venti on the first banner ever and t hen I stopped playing for a while, started again, stopped playing and the cycle was repeating. I end up today still using venti (because I do not think I have enough resources to get/build a totally new anemo character when I prioritize another things first, such as an on-field char on my 2nd team) The content it's still nice, even the "impossible to move mobs" can still get him by Venti's burst with correct positioning, it's undeniable that other anemos got better overtime but he is still really good, really fun, and really really wholesome to play with.

[@fowx.]

Hoyo: Venti is a problem, we should fix that. Also Hoyo: Let's create Kazuha ^^ Now they have a non-archon in the same place.

[@YTHandlesBlow]

Im happy I got him right away in 1.0 for I dislike chasing down enemy groups, made early abyss super easy too. Like I cleared abyss 12 when my max level team was 70 and team stats were around 30% crit and 100% cdmg and the mains on that team where Venti and Klee and those two have go me to clear floor 12 in every version of abyss pretty much haha.

[@pinkvivi9345]

Love Venti. So glad I got him. He’s incredible

[@leiathrix]

nah, I'd swirl 🍃 my venti feels great! I use him as a hypercaccy main dps.

[@ieJauxii]

love your videos! please increase your volume though.

[@skeletonwar4445]

I like how this video portrays a sort of Venti "comeback" after the Inazuma weight nerfs, which is just not what happened at all lmao.

[@Neptwink760]

I could pull for kazuha, I have the fates, but I love using our favorite drunken bard. I don't care how many times kazuha is rerun as much as I like him, I won't pull from fear of not turning back to my favorite character.

[@Waltuhonyoutube]

Not that deep bud

[@bagel_ven]

I've been playing since like 2021 and i can be proud to say im still a venti main after almost 3 years

[@KCstark.]

Well xinagling, benny, xq did mature like fine wine.

[@megann1416]

bro i just rewatched your lie in april . i got jumpscared by the chopin piece halfway through the video 😭😭😭 ALSO !!! about venti being good for exploration, xianyun is also amazing for exploration. if you time it right, you can use her skill and be constantly either sprinting or "jumping" with her skill - either forwards or upwards !!! she also heals and enables plunging atks. i only pulled for her because she's drop dead gorgeous and it was time for me to learn how to use swirl (finally after 3 years) but she's very useful in all my teams and i can't explore the world without her

[@MineMineMineMineMineMineMine]

I didn't start playing Genshin Impact until around 1.5yrs ago, and only sparingly (I'm talking 30-60minutes every 6 months LOL, it wasn't until last month I finally got out of Mondstadt, the starting city!!!!) Even though Venti has been nerfed, I still pulled this fun lil' guy. He's currently on my main team, though once Nilou gets her rerelease and I finally have my full Bloom team he'll get booted to another team comp. He's still super fun to play with :D

[@theklee6928]

"something had to be done" crazy lines

[@SOUL_0033]

Somehow I feel in future venti will come out the strongest after completing a certain story quest maybe we will get a boost like after that story quest we claim a power in which his ultimate can now suck all the enemies including azhdaha like massive ones 😂😂😂

[@barny541]

The Echo Trials from Imaginarium Theater could have been a perfect system for giving old characters like Venti buffs or even new abilities instead of a funny little trail...

[@matthewsarson6934]

Venti is just tragic at this point. Even when you do get an abyss that isn't a stright up boss rush there are so many enemies now that can't be pulled in properly by his ult. Dude was so OP they had to change how they designed enemies.

[@arudaeru1090]

I remember Venti's burst cooldown is so short that you can literally always make the opponent swirling if you have enough energy recharge.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

It's an issue with anemo in general sadly. As these nerfs also effected many others including Anemo Traveler, Jean and Sucrose. Now the best thing Anemo Traveler and Jean can do with their Anemo pick up abilities is maybe throw Klee's mines into enemy faces. Sucrose used to be a great alternative to Venti as well, now I almost never use her as her primary plusses were for the same reason Venti was also but on top of sucking people up she'd debuff them as well. They badly need to readjust weights of enemies. I don't care if Venti was OP back then. It was the whole fun appeal of anemo itself was the vacuum cleaner ability on most of the early anemo peeps.

[@Aman-km6cv]

Dunno bout you but sucrose C6 is still the best buffer for showcase teams along with C1 mona.

[@Deeznat69]

You use chopin etude op 25 no 5 we are bestie now ❤

[@MakhaiX377]

he has been shadow nerfed so hard, that I main him in NAME ALONE. I still managed to 36 star abyss with the help of Furina and Faruzan using crit venti. But its ridiculous

[@poyax.]

Spiral Abyss used to have mechanics like which enemies to kill first especially the fatuis and during tower defense. Venti so powerful he trivializes all that.

[@Shhantulo]

As an Anemo boys collector, I still want him :D