Should you REALLY Learn Framer?

[@ArnauRos]

Have you tried using framer yet? A lot of people are Webflow users here, so let me know your experience!

[@johnhenrymerk]

I signed up and look into and it's solid. I found out about it through Spline. My question is can I use spline and shopify together? I run a bigger project so it sounds like framer is not the way to go.

[@GeorgeGarciaobi-gueygarcia]

you want to use framer for small business sites and webflow for large business site. the only difference right now is the CMS. if you are already using a 3rd party CMS intergration, it doens't really matter. I use both and prefer framer becase I dont have to worry webflow server being down. and not being able to work. I also hate webflow nick picking everything thing and chargin where in framer I can get most things for free. theirs also a way to publish your framer site and an app with out redoing everything. it makes it easier to have a holistic enviornment when clients change the roadmap

[@unmanii]

Hey I (a ux design student) am using framer to build my portfolio website, and so far it’s been really good!

[@AndrésBlandón-c4u]

where you recommend taking a course of ux and ui?

[@unmanii]

@@AndrésBlandón-c4u hey I found the google one a good place to start but considering I study this in uni I haven’t explored courses as much

[@DJ-Illuminate]

OMG. I have been bouncing around from EditorX to WebFlow to Framer. Thanks for the video.

[@TravelleMcManus]

This is great content. I’m in the process of starting a web design agency and I just learned webflow and have seen a lot of hype around framer. I’m coming to the conclusion of using both but as a beginner working with smaller clients I see a huge upside to framerz

[@ArnauRos]

You can do both! But I recommend mastering 1 tool first, rather than being 50% at both - thats how youll give your clients the most value

[@TravelleMcManus]

@@ArnauRos that’s great advice! Definitely think I’ll start with framer since that fits the business model of quick and easy websites for clients.

[@harsh_here]

​@@TravelleMcManushi, I've been moving things around to start an agency myself. In case you're open to collaborate or at least explore the possibilities, it'll be great to connect and discuss. Thanks

[@z3ro7o]

you should learn the basic first this is copy paste shit.. learn html and css first.. the real thing

[@Schwabguitar]

Don't you need your clients to sign up for a framer account in order to hand over a site to them?

[@KevinHair]

Would really like more Framer videos! 😃

[@ArnauRos]

Noted!

[@MYObevs]

thanks buddy, you came in clutch

[@ArnauRos]

Glad I could help

[@joecater894]

One big problem.. if you're creating a landing page for a client you need flexibility to use their own cms and technologies. You either need to use their tools that they have on their site admin area.. or you need to be able to convert your work into core web code and import into their site.. you cannot really have a tool that isnt that flexible. As far as I can see these tools only work if you build a site and content from scratch using their service and tools?

[@ReynardNathaniel]

I am new to framer and one thing that pissed me off is that I cannot use grid system like in figma. maybe this is bcs I am new to this that I haven't figured it out yet. But does framer has a grid system like figma? all I can find is grid system that looks like bento grid. thx

[@tanmaijindal2595]

Very finely summarised. To the point data. Thanks Arnau, you're a real help!

[@ArnauRos]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BryceDriesenga]

Perhaps a video talking about Figma vs Framer and when/if it makes sense to start right in Framer or what Framer lacks compared to Figma or vice-versa?

[@jaegerschtulmann]

in my limited understanding it seems that Figma is mostly used to visualise design prototypes (and collaborate with teams) and framer makes web designs responsive for publishing (something Figma can't do by itself?)

[@thejsgarage]

Solid prediction on Webflow vs. Framer future uses. That's exactly how I've been thinking of them. Will probably use Framer to spin up quick new product sites just to jumpstart web presence then Webflow to built out larger multi-page sites. I wonder how seo is in Framer, I know we've seen a lot of seo plugins for Webflow popping up

[@ArnauRos]

I think its naturally the course it will take seeing as its a cheaper option. People will use it as much as they can until they need something with more complexity. I'd use it for a simple site, but wouldn't for a webapp or ecom - who knows if that'll change too in the future

[@itslocane412]

Framer is killer at SEO, also Framer is really good for large multi pages sites, whoever says it isn't really doesn't have a lot of experience with Framer.

[@itslocane412]

@@ArnauRos Ecom works in Framer and Web apps do too, not sure where these assumptions are coming from?

[@ArnauRos]

Sure! In comparison to Webflow though it still has some catching up to do, I wouldnt personally host a huge project on it just yet

[@thejsgarage]

@@itslocane412 in my experience using webflow ecomm I think Shopify was still light years ahead with integrations and all that. This was about two years ago tho

[@Bakocevic]

Regarding Framer AI, you have to realise that this is just a exploitation of the current AI buzz, this is great marketing campaign for Framer, and it's aimed to attract attention to Framer and to be honest they did a great job promoting it, but Framer AI is nothing other than the gimmick feature, in my opinion barely usable, but it made me to make the profile and register on Framer and try it myself, and that was probably the sole purpose of the Framer AI. Maybe it's going to get better in the future but to be honest I doubt it.

[@Akikosmik]

👍💯

[@adevikthur]

This is true because the AI just churns out nonsense.

[@Hm444LZ]

Framer AI couldnt be more trash. I mean its literaly useless. Just a buzz, no real use at all

[@ArnauRos]

Lets see how it develops in the future!

[@gerhardgroenewald]

Obviously all Ai development will get better fast. Question is who is ahead of the trend and competition.

[@glorious.mindset]

Guys I have a question, lets say I want to create a course can I have affiliates that work for me and something like kartra’s sales tracking

[@hutheyfagaming7845]

Hi Arnau, love your content. This is the video I was searching I was confused on which software to start web design.keep it up man ❤

[@ArnauRos]

Glad to hear that! What software will you be using now?

[@UIAPURBO]

Thanks, Arnau Ros for sharing your valuable opinion that will help me a lot.🥰

[@ArnauRos]

Glad it was helpful!

[@yumanti]

Which one is best for print designers switching to web / ux design? And can I take the code produced in framer and upload it to my web host via CPanel?

[@hemantkumarnirmalkar2868]

I love your content understanding the about designing figma and framer .Loved it ❤❤. Please make more videos on this to create new projects

[@ArnauRos]

Thank you! Will do!

[@mostafafallaha9672]

can u do the backend of these pages made with framer, like link the page to a data base, some php and JavaScript and MySQL? because if i made the page with HTML CSS JavaScript, i could definitely do whatever i want in the page, but it would be easier if i can do them to a framer page, because it seems a lot easier than writing HTML and CSS.

[@pearlmadondo2]

This is a great video. Straight to the point, thank you!!!

[@ArnauRos]

Thanks :)

[@xhwsdm]

I have decided to stick with Webflow instead of switching to Framer. Webflow is capable of handling everything Framer can do and much more things that Framer can't do

[@ArnauRos]

Personally I'll keep using Webflow for 99% of my workflows, however would you use framer if you needed a single landing page? I feel like the prices in Webflow is too high for a simple lander

[@hozem205]

Introduction of AI within webflow looks mighty impressive

[@ArnauRos]

Thats coming soon as well, lots of AI!

[@slipstream01]

well what a time to Drop this Video. Gold as always mate. 🥇

[@ArnauRos]

Much appreciated!

[@DenjiXMakima]

Beginner here , so when you did a project for your client , are you the one who is to publish it or how do you give it to them after the project is done ?

[@ArnauRos]

It depends on the client, sometimes we host it sometimes we pass it on to them to host it.

[@J0PHIEL]

make a video about wix studio, seems like a game changer

[@mindfulnessblissandbeyond]

Good Video! what do you recommend? Framer or Protopie? Thank you

[@ArnauRos]

Hey, theyre both quite different softwares, framer is trying to be a one stop shop for designers in terms of website/development. Protopie is more of a mockup/prototype software for some of the biggest industries out there, like cars and apps etc. Let me know if that makes sense!

[@georgesomaru8973]

Can Framer launch a fully responsive web/mobile site no-code - with room for some workflow coding complexity now- still allowing full user control of code for future scaling, customization or migration?

[@ArnauRos]

You would have to talk to them about that 😅

[@JordanStambaugh1]

Does Framer have CMS and custom post types templates?

[@ArnauRos]

yep!

[@karilehkonen3380]

Hey, thank you for this video. If I want to try Framer and build several different sites to practice, but not to publish, can I do that? I used Webflow some years ago and found it annoying that these "cold sites" were very limited even though I had a business membership. I am now using WordPress and find it really convenient to be able to play with as many test sites as I like.

[@ArnauRos]

You can definitely do that! All sites come with a 'free' version, where you can publish having the .framer domain.

[@karilehkonen3380]

@@ArnauRos Great, thank you for the answer!

[@Michael.design]

As a beginner I go straight to Framer as it is very similar to Figma. There’s no need for Webflow for me. So I guess it graps some new user marketshare.

[@ArnauRos]

This makes complete sense to me! Learning webflow is learning another language, going to Framer from Figma is much easier for beginners - Figma should really add that 'publish' button

[@Michael.design]

@@ArnauRos That would be a real gamechanger!

[@lucasrufino2286]

Hey, Arnau, congrets for the content, it is really good I have a question: I saw some materials showing and talking about Framer being more sophisticated in the contet, as if the final product had an effective impact when we talk about websites prototypes. Are you felling something like this?

[@ArnauRos]

Hey, not sure what you mean here

[@eugenefernandez4377]

Does framer host your domain? Can I capture email inside framer? Can I accept payment? Can I book appointments?

[@ArnauRos]

Most of these yes!

[@maleficarum1899]

Should I even start learning webflow or wordpress in deep right now in 2023? Or do you think its worth waiting a while until they will be replaced with new, more easy-to-use programs?

[@ArnauRos]

Depends on the sites you want to build. What are you looking to create?

[@aysh1321]

@@ArnauRos How bout client sites for businesses in the construction industry?

[@robinspeth5659]

I am in doubt. I need to build a website for a glamping and have an external booking system. Is Framer far enough and does it have enough features?

[@ArnauRos]

I dont think they’re there yet! You might be able to, but it hasnt been tried and tested many times before

[@robinspeth5659]

@@ArnauRos Thank you Arnou for the quick response. I think I’ll go with Webflow then! Keep up the great work.

[@argemiroagudelo8175]

Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to download prototypes in Framer.?

[@ArnauRos]

hey not sure what you mean by prototypes

[@curly_curvy_caroline1821]

Hey, where are you based? I would relly love to use Framer,, but struggling with the gdpr... :/

[@ArnauRos]

in spain!

[@PainterBo]

I can't get my own pictures in .. how??

[@belshares]

Hey! Thanks for the tip. Curious - do you edit your own videos?

[@ArnauRos]

nope!

[@belshares]

Thank you!

[@Mirraculous1]

Great video. Would you recommend framer for making a portfolio? if not which of the no code solutions would you recommend?

[@ArnauRos]

Framer is a solid option! I personally use webflow, but you could use framer for a portfolio

[@daliafatima8463]

Please, I would love more tutorials for landing pages ...thanks !

[@ArnauRos]

More to come!

[@rosycspencer]

This was very useful. Thank you. I was wondering what the difference between Framer and Webflow was.

[@strickit178]

Hi Arnau, loved your video. I just have one question, can i use framer for an affiliate marketing website? For example, one simple landing page integrated with clickbank, it's possible with framer?

[@ArnauRos]

You can most probably create an affiliate site using framer!

[@sabrithaiGO]

what abour the seo ?

[@ArnauRos]

What do you mean?

[@Sabrithai]

@@ArnauRosSEO CONTENT , google referencing

[@ArnauRos]

I understand what SEO is, but I'm asking, what do you want mean about it? Are you asking if Framer is a good tool for it, if you can look for keywords, if theres ai seo features, or if it just has seo capabilities built in? etc etc If you're just asking about framer's seo capabilities: www.framer.com/features/seo-performance/

[@taisasevenard1997]

Thanks for the overview. I think I installed it around 2 years ago when one of my teachers was speaking about that, but never tried. Is it a new holder era? I just get used to Webflow 😅

[@ArnauRos]

They have changed their product quite a bit in recent years, now they're more of a competitor with Webflow/Figma workflow :)

[@TimandLauren]

With framer, Is there a need for desining in figma? or just do the design in framer (For websites)

[@ArnauRos]

Not necessarily, you can design in framer in their ‘canvas’

[@TimandLauren]

@@ArnauRos Gotcha, So when i do the copy and paste from figma to framer, for some reason in the published site, it crops off the graphics.. Do you have to Insert all the sections and copy and paste the assets made in figma so that the site can appear full screen when published?

[@MatthewHallesq]

Interesting in comparison, but is 10 pages all it takes to be considered a “complex” site? 🙃 Figma’s other strength is that it scales well, even at the enterprise scale. Framer seems to work in this type of environment as well, but can anyone confirm? Anyone using framer at a company with full design org?

[@shenazwahid2863]

Do you recommend Framer for someone who doesn’t know anything about coding or figma? I’m not a designer, just a regular person trying to make a beautiful website. Do you still recommend?

[@ArnauRos]

yeah 100%

[@lemicmelo7713]

Hey man great video! Quick question if I’m developing a website for people to signup and keep a profile, do you think it will be better after design it on Figma, to export to webflow or framer? Thanks

[@ArnauRos]

Figma is always a great starting point !

[@eugenefernandez4377]

Can framer host my domain? Can i capture email leads and give coupons. I just started a notary business. I wanted a funnel. Do you recommend this or other programs like lightfunnels. I know Nothing about designing. Maybe getresponse

[@ArnauRos]

Framer is a great simple solution for that, quite cheap too. You can get a template and quickly launch a site within the day

[@InigoVazquezIbarreche]

How can I sell a website on framer?

[@ArnauRos]

Do you mean a template through framer or do you mean how can you get a client that wants to use framer?

[@nimiaenciso]

Interesting... I just discovered Framer and I find it interesting, but I have a question! In my case, I only design what the website would look like since I use Divi to build later in Wordprees, so my question is, since I only do design, can I do everything directly in Framer? In which case is it done to export your design from figma to framer? I hope you can make me understand, I used google translate since I don't speak English 😁

[@ArnauRos]

you can do everything in framer if you want! Figma is a design system, so you can use it to design, framer to build if you'd like

[@kwcreative]

i appreciate your outlook and that you stay relatively objective when it comes to the reality of the usage of this application. Fortuanely for us designers, the companies that make these products tend to stay in a uniform and consistent lane when it comes to the usability. I am however feeling "subscriptioned to death"... Cheers Guapo

[@ArnauRos]

Yep i feel it too! Luckily its a cheaper plan for a small site than what webflow would charge, so I see that as a positive for now. Who knows if they'll increase the prices once they have a better ecom setup?

[@IStMl]

yes

[@ThinkTangle]

As a freelancer, do I need to keep a Framer Pro subscription every month after handing over a website to a client with 20K+ monthly visitors just to make sure the website work properly.

[@ArnauRos]

The client would cover that cost most times

[@GuestPerson-xc3hi]

Just a side note on video editng. I find the zoom in / zoom out every 30seconds distracting. Other than that, good job :)

[@ArnauRos]

Noted!

[@naveeng723]

Hey Arnau, I have created subtitles for this video. Can I share that via email?

[@ArnauRos]

Sure! You can find my email in the about section of my channel

[@m.ardaeren]

Framer could have been a much better product. But the with new direction it seems like framer yearns to be another website builder alternative. Framer motion, designer/developer integration, custom code overrides, react were features that made framer stood out in my opinion. Too bad...

[@ArnauRos]

Nice input! I wonder how others feel about this too

[@IStMl]

Framer pivoted to a React SPA website builder. It's not an impression. But since you add custom React code it's quite powerful

[@ABDULREHMAN76184]

I like Your totorial of Figma👍👍

[@ArnauRos]

Thanks!

[@riyankanath6452]

yes please.. let it coming

[@ArnauRos]

sure!

[@unleashthedog]

Not sure if I’m wrong, i never used Framer but I followed from pretty much the beginning… I think it was another generic design tool, and they specialised to fill the gap and not just die of starvation trying to be Figma?

[@ArnauRos]

Its a web development tool more than just design, so it helps designers immensely

[@salzpro]

Do you know, how to use Tailwind CSS classes in components of framer as tailwind playground?

[@androidfarmer8863]

Interesting, but I think you said "Webflow" more often than "Framer"... What about people who don't use Webflow?

[@ArnauRos]

i understand! Yeah it was a video quite geared towards my usual audience that uses webflow on the daily. If you're more of a custom dev then Framer could also apply, if you need something quick out there then why not use framer you know?

[@FAKKER_rap]

Should i learn google sites? 🤔

[@ArnauRos]

not sure!

[@okayspect]

If you want be price gouged to host more than 1 website use framer. Can’t believe they don’t allow html export like every other no code designer.

[@Sponsi_PL]

Framer or Webflow?

[@ArnauRos]

depends!

[@ЕвгенийФогель-х8ы]

waiting for a video about Framer

[@ArnauRos]

Sure thing :)

[@grantwylie4302]

Omg do you have a brother? I swear you even sound like the SEO guru that u know. Your mannerisms are even like him

[@ArnauRos]

hahaha yes! Jaume Ros

[@roshni6767]

Would love more on complex animations!

[@MR_THINQ]

Framer is good but it’s lock-in is a real put off and would prefer just buying it an not paying a monthly amount for every website

[@ArnauRos]

I think many people feel the same, subscriptions are kind of a pain nowadays

[@groundpets5101]

Why not just make a radon domain and make lots of subdomain sites to show different sites live

[@sundaydavid]

Personally, I disagree. Webflow is deployed with jQuery framework, while Framer is deployed with react. Now both allows developers to integrate their project with an IDE so that you can use Webflow or Framer to design your react project and Webflow for react, angular and more. But since react it more common, the technical knowledge required is less when working with Framer. So coders may actually prefer Framer over Webflow because they get their interface as react component rather code they still have to translate to their frame work.

[@ArnauRos]

I see what you're saying, but honestly the average designer that just wants to launch a site doesn't really mind what its built on. As long as its reliable and deploys fast the customer is happy - both Webflow and Framer do that imo

[@peterjohansson739]

Framer is totally out with their pricing if you want to have different locales. $40 per locale? Silly.

[@GeorgeGarciaobi-gueygarcia]

short answer YES! learn it, bye bye Figma

[@ArnauRos]

aha I wish it was that easy! Maybe if you do websites then yes

[@Launchify]

I'm a fan of yours, but I'm going to be harsh here. Hope I don't come across as a prick. Here goes: 1. That you had to specify that Figma is a general design tool and Famer is for websites is bizarre. Though that is obvious to anyone who would design something, there is actually no reason why they cannot design whatever they would like to design in framer. 2. Framer is very suitable for blogs and does have a CMS. That it's not as robust as what you can do with Webflow is not a new take... 3. The point that you can tell when a site was made with framer is entirely disingenuous. That you can recognize it is a design tool like Figma and, in the same video, claim that designs that it produces look the same is ridiculous. Same point as #1 above. If you were to make the same comment about animations, I might understand. But that you could literally import any design you've ever made in Figma and then say that the designs that framer produces look the same is asinine. Framer's strong point is literally its design. Sorry, but this space is beginning to get overloaded with clickbaity videos with no substance.

[@ArnauRos]

Hey! I appreciate your comment, and you're not coming off as prickish at all. I believe it's these conversations that lead us to better content and growth :) 1. About your first point, it's true Figma and Framer are both robust design tools that can cater to a multitude of design scenarios. My intention wasn't to limit their usage, but to illustrate where they shine the most from my perspective. You're absolutely right, creativity knows no boundaries and these tools are adaptable to whatever the user wishes to design. 2. On the CMS and blog suitability point, I agree with you. I never claimed that it was a novel point. I'm simply stating my experiences and what I've found while using Framer. It does have a CMS, and it does work for blogs. My point was more towards its robustness in comparison to platforms like Webflow, which have a more refined and extensive CMS. 3. As for your third point, I can see why my statement might seem contradictory. I did not mean to imply that all designs produced by Framer look the same. Rather, I was expressing my observation that certain characteristics or traits of the tool can sometimes show through in the final design, giving it a distinctive "Framer" feel. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a point of note. You're right in saying that its adaptability is one of its strongest features. Again, thank you for your honest critique. This kind of feedback helps me deliver better, more accurate content. It's always valuable to hear different perspectives, so I'm thankful you took the time to share your opinion 🚀🚀

[@luanmaia]

For client work ? No. For testing ideas ? sure!

[@ArnauRos]

Great use case!

[@thevikingsock8527]

Yeah in Europe u need Cookie Banners for legal reasons... With Tier 4 (30/Mo) you get it... f framer

[@deathtrader666]

Was this sponsored by Webflow?

[@ArnauRos]

I wish!

[@derekshort]

You somewhat look shirtless in the thumbnail. Lol. I had to look twice.

[@fedorfilon8984]

You should definetely not learn framer for one simple reason. They just can't find their niche so they constanrly completely changing their core product. They started from pure mobile solution focusing on app. Then they decided that they want to basically do something similar to figma and now they promoting them as a CMS for landing pages. Who knows where they gonna be in next two years or so.

[@ArnauRos]

Thats a good point! They've changed a lot in recent years, I think with their AI solution their seems a bit more directed, but again who knows what they will do

[@noktasifir3725]

framer is the worst garbage i have ever used. literally every single thing is buggy and you cant even delete or unpublish projects LMAO. is that a joke? how is that a good design?! it is so frustrating. how am i supposed to create good designs with a tool that has the most frustrating dogshit design ever?!

[@ArnauRos]

interesting take, I haven't had it break on me yet

[@noktasifir3725]

@@ArnauRos I am really sorry for my language lol. I was really frustrated at the time, because framer failed me and I had to finish up my website for the next day. But that doesn't excuse it. Their AI website generator is kind of cool though. Again, I am sorry.

[@brianna21314]

Blaming tools for incompetence. While I'm here completing my brutalist homepage in just one day just using Framer without any design tool.

[@noktasifir3725]

@@brianna21314 i am just speaking the truth. maybe it works for you because you and the tool you use are both incompetent. good luck with your garbage "designs". you not being able to unpublish or delete projects is a big problem with the design, and i am not even going to start with how buggy some of the things are. maybe you dont have enough design knowledge realize but it is okay, nobody is perfect.