Show, Don't Tell: The Mandalorian vs. The Last Jedi

I go over this concept much better here: • Show Don't Tell 2: Wha...
I also made a follow-up on Mando Season 2: • The Problem With The M...
Note: Showing doesn't mean you can't use dialogue or words. You can show through dialogue the same way a novelist or poet shows through words. It's also not always wrong to tell. The opening crawl of Star Wars is just exposition, but it's useful because it saves time while still creating clarity. It's often a balance of clarity, emotional impact, and efficiency. I think from the examples I used it could be easy to get the wrong idea, to think I mean that dialogue is bad, but that is absolutely not the case. Yes, the camera is what makes a movie a movie, but there aren't hard and fast rules for this. As I alluded to, everyone has different tolerances for these kinds of things, and what knocks me out of the story could be a thing that someone else doesn't even notice.
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[@PlaysTheThing]

My thoughts on season three are that all my worst fears after season two came true: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5i7lqeil8l-b68

[@Schmuni]

Let us join in prayer to our lord and savior Tony Gilroy. Please deliver us from these terrible abominations.

[@hazim9529]

This is why you should give up on Star Wars and find a new franchise to fall in love with.

[@AlfredFJones1776]

“I don’t think a simple space western can save Star Wars.” Bro, Star Wars _is_ a space western. It always has been.

[@matteodelgallo1983]

Welllll, it's actually a space samurai movie, but interestingly enough the two are *very* similar genres stylistically

[@kamilkaya5367]

If you think about old republic times. Where There are lots of very powerful characters, This suddenly becomes a fantasy context franchise. But unfortunately nobody attempted the cast old republic times yet which is a shame. Because it has so much potential.

[@AlfredFJones1776]

@@matteodelgallo1983 It’s both. There are literally specific scenes in Star Wars that George Lucas took from western movies. Star Wars managed to take the Eastern Samurai/Sword movie and merge it with the Western Gun movie. Star Wars is a space western pal.

[@emmanuelwalton4557]

Always will be

[@mintybadgerproductions]

@@AlfredFJones1776 I think he's alluding to the fact that a few Western's were heavily inspired by Japanese directors like Akira Kurosawa. Most notably The Magnificent Seven being based on Seven Samurai.

[@memelicker6437]

“I don’t believe a simple Space Western could or will save Star Wars” .....boi you were wrong

[@taylorgallion2748]

It totally has. lets just hope they can stick a landing and not game of thrones this show to hell.

[@RobertMichael]

Lmao for real. This aged badly in that sense 😂 yesterday’s episode was so good omg

[@brrr375]

episode 5 was on par with rise of skywalker in terms of shitty writing. And waaaay too many episodes of filler, ESPECIALLY at the start of the second season. I gave absolute 0 shits about the ice spiders or that girl's eggs.

[@IngvarMar]

@@brrr375 are you talking about episode 5 of season 1 or 2?

[@brrr375]

@@IngvarMar ep 5 of season 1. It was enjoyable, I suppose, but shameless filler with low investment and an annoying sidekick character and an anticlimax.

[@anhduc0913]

He don't talk when he's alone, he just think in his head. When he open up to Grogu a little, he start thinking out loud since he now feels like he have company. That's development, not a weakness.

[@HRHMANSOUR]

She was also alone in her scene so stop talking shit

[@MEOKENJI]

this needs more attention

[@DeadweightLKS]

You can see this in Book of Boba Fett too

[@username45739]

Softening up to babies is kinda weak tbh, what did the baby do for you?

[@Legend_Zone]

@@username45739 It did save his life on one or two occasions, not to mention open his eyes to greater events going on in the galaxy than he knew of before.

[@frambjosie]

The contrast between him not talking before he met Grogu but opening up and "over" explaining things to a literal child because his father instincts jumped in, is what makes that perfect.

[@jonash3406]

Also generally in writing it's fine if you "tell" as long as it works in your story. They made it work by having Mando talk to Grogu, and for exactly the reasons you mentioned it dosent feel contrived but natural.

[@ThatSomGuy]

Exactly, Mando is going teach his kid about the world. Like an adult lecturing their child or giving lessons. It's only natural.

[@jonash3406]

@@ThatSomGuy very well put. Mando is being a good dad (as good as a dad can be while also being a bounty hunter/wanted imperial fugitive)

[@ThatSomGuy]

@emmy lite Ruthless bounty hunters can have kids too 🤌

[@ThatSomGuy]

@emmy lite It's his kid in spirit! I thought you ladies loved the whole single father dynamic. Just embrace it.. like Mando embracing Grogu as his foundling/son 😆

[@michaela14055]

I actually liked Mando’s talking, it showed his fatherly instincts emerging, so he felt the need to explain things. Not to the audience, but to Grogu.

[@Yoduh-on4lv]

THANK YOU for calling him grogu instead of baby Yoda

[@brandonjagles5326]

@@Yoduh-on4lv agreed and/or “The Child”

[@armydillo1013]

I haven’t seen season 2, was Grogu revealed to be his name?

[@brandonjagles5326]

@@armydillo1013 it’s best to watch it, and figure it out yourself rather strangers tell you

[@armydillo1013]

@@brandonjagles5326 but I literally just read it, and now I'm going to look it up on the wiki and possibly have other stuff spoiled to me

[@HoHhoch]

Him talking with the baby is more clever than you get it credit for. It's showing how he's changing and caring for the baby. It's a way he can comfort the baby while he's flying. It's a way he can tell the audience a bit about what's going on without directly telling us. The dialogue is serving multiple purposes here, you really can't ask for more.

[@PlaysTheThing]

I don't totally disagree. I think that scene in particular is tricky because it could serve that purpose but at the same time it is a tonal clash from what has come before. As a one off in the episode it wouldn't have been too bad, but, and I only hinted at this with the footage instead of saying it outright, the whole episode is rife with him opening his mouth when he doesn't really need to. The innkeeper, the ex-imperial, the woman in the village. It's such a radical departure from what we've seen before. In my opinion, the very best episode is episode two which has by far the least amount of dialogue, and babyyoda's and mando's relationship contains almost no dialogue until that moment in episode 4 (he tells him to spit out a frog, and that the ball isn't a toy, but those aren't exactly examples of warmth). And you can see the connection he has with babyyoda almost instantly when he reaches out a finger towards it, and you understand it's rooted in their shared experience of being left (and found) as children, but his feelings shouldn't change his character so quickly. But that's just my opinion, and this is definitely more of an edge case where I could easily see how it wouldn't bother someone. It just feels to me more like how the writer would engage with babyyoda rather than using Mando's existing characterization. And yes, people change, and Mando is changing. But people change slowly, until one day they wake up just a little bit different and they don't even notice they've changed. A good contrast could be Geralt and Ciri's relationship in the Witcher 3. Geralt's existing personality is still there when he engages with his adopted daughter, and his love for her comes through clearly without departing from his gruff character.

[@lordgaroro]

@@PlaysTheThing I agree my friend, but I feel like Mando may be talking more to make sure grogu doesn't feel lonely. He talks a lot to him so that grougu doesn't become the silent type like him when grougu grows up. And since he thought that once he would give grougu to the jedi, he won't see em again, he wanted to make sure grougu would understand the jedi properly, who would prolly be more talkitive than him( I think he thought that ) , atleast that is my opinion

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

@@PlaysTheThing honestly as someone who has gone through a lot of abuse i can tell you that mando makes sense to me. People dont change overnight but they can appear to change. I was quiet for a long long time but if i had someone who was going through what i did that i was protecting you better believe ill act in a way that isnt me to make sure they can grow up to be better then me. To not have those feelings and not have to experienve what i did

[@HowdyItLovll]

Mandolorian: "Grogu? Hehe.. hm... *Sigh*" New Triology version: "Grogu? Hahaha! I sure do enjoy your company buddy, I sure wouldn't want anything to happen to you, because that would make me sad. So very sad. Even though I'm not supposed to be sad. Having to leave you reminds me of myself. But it's a good thing we don't have to worry about that! *Winks at camera*"

[@jangtheconqueror]

I think it's fine as it is, but it also would work if he said something a little less verbose, like "Sorgan, no starports, no cities, very little population. That'll do, won't it? (to the child)". Just remove him saying what they're going to do, because that's pretty obvious.

[@voryndagothDL]

The complaint about Mando “talking too much” in that scene are sus. He’s trying to be a father and give a child attention. It’s not exposition, just immersion and giving a better understanding of how Mando has changed

[@robertagren9360]

Sure but it only work because he's not talking all alone. It's when the movie start to talk all alone. Who is he talking to? The Truman show showed how a show derails like this by telling instead of showing a product. When Meryl start talking , Truman ask the question all audience ask, who is she talking to? Because she's telling instead of showing. The Truman show is about a tv-serie who kept going for so long that the main character is lost and the actors living inside the show. A duel with lightsaber doesn't need an explanation. Stormtroopers don't need dialogues. It only work when they talk to another. What makes mandalorian is action before reaction. When talking is to explain everything you get a reaction before we see any action. Take example of dark city where the main character comes to the end of the rope and discover that there's nothing beyond the walls of the novel. His action is seen before reaction as he is saved from falling out of from the frame of sanity and only afterward an explanation is made. The reason it work is because there's questions asked. We see how the tuning makes poor to rich and it is visual showing the metaphor about happiness. Because Dark City is about a man lost in the darkness trying to find the light and he meets a man at the subway station who found a way out of his depression by jumping in front of a train. The movie never tells it but it is straight there on the screen.

[@voryndagothDL]

@@robertagren9360 How would you go about showing Mando being a parent to Grogu then? To "tell" in this situation would be something silly like another character saying "Mando is such a good dad" The writers don't have anything like that. Instead, they "show" by actually SHOWING us scenes of Mando bonding with Grogu. Those scenes happen to include a bit of childish dialogue- since that's how parenting works. Again, the effort here is in immersing us in their relationship by showing scenes of it, rather than just eluding to it with dialogue after its occurred.

[@robertagren9360]

@@voryndagothDL I would show it with action. You don't need to baby with Grogu because he's older than Mando. The most parenting to do is to secure a safe place without death. The most basic need is security, social security, food and economic stability. Mando can't be using a weapon in one hand while holding Grogu with the other at the same time. His life is not a place for a beginning. There's no time for Grogu and it's time for plot. Mando is talking to Grogu but Grogu doesn't talk to Mando. Who is he talking to? When he show the planet, why is this important to Grogu? because it's not. It's important to tell the audience everything. And if you don't get the message you didn't understand what exactly what was happening in the scene because you only focused what was told and not what was shown and in what context Mando said those words and why.

[@voryndagothDL]

@@robertagren9360 Wtf are you even saying lmao

[@carolinaa.4407]

@@robertagren9360 Grogu is older in age but not in development. He’s clearly a baby. Have you had a pet or a kid? It’s completely normal to talk to them and explain things even though they won’t talk back or understand. It’s a simple way to form connections, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with those scenes being added, plus it humanizes Din Djarin since we can’t see his face.

[@professorsketch7466]

When mando starts talking more at the beginning of the 4th episode, it’s acceptable because unlike in the last Jedi, mando is actually talking to a child

[@shadowscythes]

that is a very good point

[@namelessentity1933]

​@@gaydonaldtrump He meant grogu, he is barely talking to us. Hes talking to grogu which is still a child. The audience doesnt need this input it was grogu. He was still learning, this is character development not bad writing.

[@tcideh4929]

He is still talking too much.

[@YaBoy99]

I saw emotion through the helmet of the Mandalorian.

[@barryallen2240]

I can feel the facial expressions through the helmet

[@toric1679]

Same. Even though I can't see his face, I can tell when he's smiling, pissed, angry, sad, etc.

[@ninaa4192]

Rvb taught me how to helmet-read lol

[@KilloWatts]

The green on his helmet when he's thinking of grogu tells me everything

[@lionlikeproductions709]

Shows how much of a great job Pedro Pascal is doing

[@acommonbagel2936]

I would argue that mando starts talking more after episode 4 because he's talking to the child. He's a lonely dude, who's always been independent. But now he has something more important than his bounties or even his creed. It's natural that it makes him open up more and act softer when around the kid. Even if grogu is a baby, he listens when mando talks.

[@ianschrock2987]

I agree, and when he does talk to other people, his dialogue is very limited.

[@mohammedmclovin4450]

Yeah. That is true. But Mando simply talking isn't the issue. I guess that was not very clear in the video. Yes, Mando eventually has to talk to Grogu. That's the best way to show his character development. But he doesn't need to give up the plot to the audience while doing so. The example in the video is perfect. Just look at what Mando says: "Let's see. Sorgan. Looks like there's no starport, no industrial centers, no population density. A real backwater skug hole. THAT MEANS IT IS PERFECT FOR US. READY TO LAY LOW AND STRETCH YOUR LEGS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, YOU LITTLE WOMP RAT?" The part in all caps is totally unnecessary. We get the idea at "skug hole"... The rest is just baby feeding us a half-digested plot, as if we were incapable of reading between the lines there. If you want to show how close they've got, you could throw a "Fasten your seat belt, you little womp rat." in there, but don't go beyond that. The Mandalorian is still great. But they will spoil it if they are not careful to avoid the traps the author of this video pointed out. Because they are indeed part of the reason why the latest trilogy sucks so much.

[@SpartanK4102]

Yeah he definitely lost me around that time. Like "Oh no the show is getting worse now because he's talking". The reason those intro episodes gave him the feeling they did is because it was establishing the plot and setting. Now the plot is centered around the child so of course he's going to be taking to him. And if "fan service" is such an issue he probably isn't liking season 2 (which is absolutely amazing so far)

[@lucciproduced]

@@SpartanK4102 my only issue with season 2 is the first 4 episodes were back and forth for filler episodes. Episode 1 was an entire 40 minutes setting up boba fett returning. Which is amazing, but did they really need to make that entire episode? Felt like a waste of time to me. Mando was there to find a mandalorian, and he didn’t. We don’t even know how or why boba was on the planet (yet, anyways). Then episode 2 was horrible in terms of advancing the story. A random character we’ve never seen before somehow finds mando and knows of the information he’s looking for (for absolutely no reason at all except “the plot needed it to be that way”). Then, for the duration of the entire episode, nothing happened to advance the story what so ever. Yes, the X-wing pilots were introduced and we realize a few episodes later that they’re tracking him, but again...an entire episode dedicated to that? Waste of time once again. Now, episode 3 was amazing, episode 4 was great and it finally got the plot started (half way through the season) with what the empire wanted from grogu. Episode 5 with Ashoka was amazing as well but it was only there to set up ashoka’s spin off series she’s getting so it was kind of just a huge fan service episode. Although it did set up the next episode which was the best episode in mando’s series with boba fett and grogu connecting to the force/him being stolen. And last weeks episode was great too. Season finale is next week and I honestly can’t wait. But half of this season has felt like a waste of excitement to me. I loved every minute of it because I’m a fucking geek for Star Wars lmao but I feel like the story slowed down so much and then shot up so fast compared to season 1. The pacing is just everywhere.

[@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll]

@@lucciproduced I disagree. The episodes you talked about had grogu. I have spoken.

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

I love how you had 70% of a clearly explained argument, and then you tanked it at the end by ignoring the use of dialogue as character development for Mando. His relationship with Grogu is developing, so he acts with more fondness. Imagine if after everything they'd been through, Mando and Grogu just continued to sit in silence and exchange head nods lmao

[@mackenzy.mp4]

9:20 I actually liked this moment because it was kind of showing him communicating with Grogu, because he understands he isn’t just a helpless little baby. This is a good bonding moment. This is his character *changing* his normal ways. It doesn’t feel very unnatural to me because honestly everyone speaks to themselves (I know i do when I am in my car lmao)

[@eclipse416]

I agree

[@9124Nove]

Exactly.

[@enyrtovsen3174]

The actor that plays the mandalorian does a great job showing emotion through body language

[@noodlekeeper5150]

That's because Pedro Pascal is awesome. Also, Jon Favreau is an amazing Director/Writer/Creator. He knows what he is doing, better than a lot of people.

[@leemine1187]

@@noodlekeeper5150 It's probably worth noting that Pedro Pascal is rarely in the suit, and usually records his dialogue afterwards. Not necessarily all the time, but usually. Bit like how Dave Prowse was in the Vader suit but it was James Earl Jones doing the voiceover. Pedro is still awesome though

[@noodlekeeper5150]

@@leemine1187 Fascinating. I had no idea. Apparently, there is a report that he's been wearing the suit more for S2, so...maybe we'll have more helmet-less scenes.

[@beanjuice4263]

@@noodlekeeper5150 i hope not. I prefer not seeing Mando's face

[@thereverseeffect7269]

So do the cameras

[@bastionboi6552]

“I don’t believe that this single space western can or will save the franchise...” This aged like milk and I am so glad.

[@AimForMyHead81]

The things he criticised the mandalorian for in this video haven't changed.

[@bastionboi6552]

@@AimForMyHead81 hence why I referred to only that one statement and not the whole video

[@vishakhadasi9737]

@@AimForMyHead81 I don't share his criticisms though. I need a little cheesiness in my Star Wars. :)

[@finnwoermer]

who said that line again

[@SaltyIdleBoi]

@@finnwoermer the person who made the video?

[@dipz6479]

“I don’t think this space western can save Star Wars”. I think he was wrong

[@ayeathelas1726]

We do have the benefit of hindsight, though

[@purplebean8989]

@@ayeathelas1726 you don't need hindsight: Han solo was always a space cowboy, and was always popular because of it. Star wars is now doing what works instead of trying to stick with just the Skywalker angle

[@isabellemckee8492]

space western will ALWAYS save star wars and the mandalorian proves that

[@pezdispencer113]

@@purplebean8989 This mentality here is why we'll never have good star wars again. They're hiding their trash behind nostalgia bait and cameos and people eat it up, meanwhile the story and worldbuilding is decaying in the gutter.

[@purplebean8989]

@@pezdispencer113 has anyone explained to you that you do not have to watch it? You are free to watch anything else

[@737e7dhs4]

I like the fact that mando started talking cause it showed how grogu made him more cheered up and less lonley and open which was exactly opposite in first 3 epsiodes

[@GenericStatue]

I don't think it got worse, I think it's getting better, he's growing as a character and thus getting more dialogue, besides most of his talking scenes are him talking to the baby. You're supposed to talk to babies.

[@kingkota2302]

That's why I'm saying when like took grogu it is not the last time we see Grogu

[@cy4069]

Tbf this guy did not have the retrospective of the last 2 episodes of the 1st season as well as the 2nd season. The show has well surpassed itself on numerous fronts, and found a way to balance the story and the characters that is lacked somewhat in the first season.

[@CttrPrfl]

Hes starting actually feel for something other then his teachings.

[@reallynibba6795]

Right, he starts off as this cold bounty hunter that is yes filled with mystery. Though throughout the seasons he continues to grow as a character and break out of that shell, growing more fond of friends and even his family seeing as grougu is like a son to him. I don't see why he would never talk to them- that would just be weird.

[@Klik-Klak83]

Dude this is what I was gonna say. He is growing to like Grogu and has probably already been talking to him on the way to Sorga. That is most likely not the first time Mando has talked to Grogu. There relationship is growing therefore he starts talking to Grogu. Adults often tell there young child everything that they are doing. Tho there child might not know what they are talking about or care what there talking about. I think that it was a very realistic moment between Grogu and Mando. And also this space western did save Star Wars. With season two as a whole and that wonderful finale.

[@catholic_ninja1710]

Gotta love how Din Djarin can show more emotion with his face completely hidden and with no lines than Rey in the sequels

[@ryanatorryanson9535]

Just like Vader when he saves Luke from the emperor in ROTJ. We can’t see his face, but we feel his emotion based on framing, body language, background, and music. It’s done so well.

[@rickydinto]

3 episodes of Mandalorian has same duration of average movies, total episodes of Mandalorian season 1+2 was 16 episodes equivalent to 5 movies, it's unfair because lack of duration make it hard to deliver simple but interesting stories.

[@rickydinto]

Duration of modern Star Wars trilogy equivalent to 4 average movies, 20% less than duration of Mandalorian season 1+2.

[@loganholmes2991]

@@rickydinto more emotion at end of season one than third sequel

[@rickydinto]

@@loganholmes2991 Mandalorian is hit and miss, for me it's only emotional or epic because it's episodic show, honestly episode 8 is most memorable episode in season 1 but after I've watched season 2 finale, I change my mind because I've just realized that's Mandalorian's Beskar equipments is overpowered, it's can even counter Darksaber in fast-pace battle and moff Gideon doesn't give any what I've expected, he doesn't have any special ability and his strategy is kinda bland [attack from behind but he doesn't attack weak spot], when Jedi has coming which is I think he'll show his true powers for either fight or flight but no, he's trying to suicidal like servant it's really downgrade his charisma, remember a droid who sacrifice his existence because there're too many stormtroopers? It's a reason make me like Mandalorian but it turns out stormtroopers just dumb armies as always like other Star Wars show or movies, now I start to think why Empire gave Mando a pure Beskar material and why they didn't simple just use it for Darktrooper's skin?

[@raptordrone765]

Any parent or pet owner knows exactly what Mando is doing at the start of episode 4. Ironically, in a video where you're highlighting the importance of showing vs telling the audience what to take away from a scene, you missed the fact that this was the writers taking a moment to show us how much Mando cares for the kid rather than having a voiceover or conversation with someone about it.

[@Scientist19exe]

The only reasons he talks or asks questions is for Grogu. It shows him going outside his comfort zone. Shows him actually evolving into someone warmer.

[@timetrnr7380]

"I don't think this space western can save Star Wars." Boy that did not age well.

[@unknownalsounknown4238]

Pog69likes

[@rafaelfarias4359]

Surely didn't. Season 2 last episode was great.

[@unknownalsounknown4238]

@@rafaelfarias4359 I actually hated that one , they made moff gideon lose all his prestige/power or anything about him.I wanted to see a tougher fight with the stormtroopers.Everything else was good tho

[@mpt3245]

@@unknownalsounknown4238 Do you really expect an Imperial like him to not be scared shitless of Luke?

[@futuza]

@@mpt3245 that isn't even the issue, the problem is that Moff has no real goal, plan, or end game he's just a generic bad guy. He's not a real threat, just an annoyance. Has nothing to do with Luke.

[@stonks1800]

Mando with his helmet on was still able to convey more expression than Rey

[@kingbroseph9773]

Omg fr

[@Allulathepoodle]

Yeah that is true!

[@radik1016]

Lol facts !

[@DeathbatOfSpades]

You sequel haters just say shit that makes no sense and other sequel haters just like it and say “SO TRUE HAHAH DISNEY SUCKS” and waft each other’s farts.

[@vampirethespiderbatgod9740]

@@DeathbatOfSpades K

[@tomatoboi5735]

Mandalorian is the proof that with good writing and director you can still see the emotion that they try/want to tell

[@ZachariahBaer]

I kind of see Mando becoming more talkative in later episodes because of his bond with Grogu. He’s no longer alone, hunting, fighting, killing, he has someone he actually cares for and I believe he begins to open up. Almost like all the things he says out loud towards Grogu, is stuff that he actually thinks in his head in the earlier episodes, but of course never says

[@peluflw5295]

"Mando is asking to much questions" How else was he going to find where to go? By staring?

[@locoartsuu9607]

sign language, apparently

[@Merennulli]

It works for Batman.

[@zayaermalik796]

He is talking to the kid, like I talk to my cat, who can see me opening a tin of food, but I still ask are you hungry,

[@KEV.I.N24]

@@GotherYT in a sense then navy seals or any other elite shouldn't talk to animals or children in any caring way due to them being specialised soldiers.

[@musicalsimon]

@@GotherYT it makes perfect sense. Family and fatherhood are a huge part of Mandalorian culture, and with Grogu being a new foundling under his care it makes perfect sense for them to bond. This fits with his character, his culture, and the wider canon

[@janegd]

9:10 actually I think this scene where Mando starts “talking too much” is perfect, and here’s why: at the start of the scene Mando is silent (as always) and the baby is clearly bored. Because of this, the baby starts touching things although he knows he shouldn’t do it just to get Mando’s attention. Instead of getting mad, grabbing the baby and locking him in his crib and going back to flying silently, Mando understands that the child needs attention (because it’s a freakin’ baby) and the only way that he can give it to him is talking to him (since, because he’s flying the ship, he can’t play or anything else). He doesn’t have much to say, so he just starts talking about where they’re going. He’s not explaining anything to the audience, he’s trying to entertain the baby.

[@zivo9453]

you could also say that he is alone so he doesnt really need to be profesional cause what is a baby gonna do tell the cops

[@dankmeme682]

Narratively that works so well when I think about it

[@fischmann1746]

And I think it also shows, that Mando is opening up for the child. We got to know him as the silent and lonely bounty hunter and now we see him talking with a baby that probably doesn't even understand him (as he and the audience still think in that moment) about trivial stuff.

[@lukethegreat7574]

Grogu is 50 💀

[@ntholas]

@@lukethegreat7574 and belongs to a species that lives 900 years Still a toddler ir not a baby

[@ecto1ghost]

Loved the comparison between the 2, but I think Mando starts getting more talkative in episode 4 because he finally has someone to talk to. There's also the emotional side that starts to come out as he realizes that he can't leave Grogu there to suffer after Grogu had saved him from the mudhorn.

[@faizfuad8361]

yeap and i went in halfway thinking this is a competent video

[@Andernol]

0:50 he has a mask. He has a helmet on the whole time, and yet the writing and the acting both show you exactly how much turmoil Din is in over his decision. It's just an incredible scene all around.

[@bravozero6]

Huge miss thinking mandos talking to grogu was an error. He was reinforcing what your first point was. You explain to kids.

[@vishakhadasi9737]

Exactly!

[@ayamrick2]

It shows mando has character development unlike anyone in the sequels besides kylo

[@Probablylani]

@@ayamrick2 Yeessss

[@diegooland1261]

Kids with a limited ability to grasp the obvious I guess.

[@_Shay_]

Ikr, how weird or awkward would it be if Mando never talked, explained, or taught Grogu anything. Just like too much telling instead of showing is a bad thing too much showing and never telling is also bad. Moderation goes a long way

[@nonexistant4260]

When Mando stars narrating outloud it's not intended for the audience to better understand things, like you described. It's Mando speaking outloud to his new kid because that's what you tend to do when there's a baby around, you just talk. It actualy says a lot and illustrates how he's taking to having a kid around.

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

Especially since Grogu does understand what Mando is saying even though Grogu is a child but he is 50

[@CRL365]

Exactly, people even talk to their pets. This guy didn’t get it

[@tristanmayer5373]

But that’s not reality. The baby is there to give him an excuse to talk to the audience.

[@nonexistant4260]

@@tristanmayer5373 Ah yes, because Star Wars is consistent with reality

[@tristanmayer5373]

@@nonexistant4260 the reality is that its a tv show and that the scenes exist entirely and only to fill in the audience, not because of some dad fan fiction. Baby Yoda is just an audience stand in for most of his scenes.

[@gen3ralixxi381]

watching it one year later, I can say: "this simple space-western" saved Star Wars by a lot

[@SecretMoonshine]

Agree with a lot of chat, the context of Mando speaking more is important: he’s entertaining the child. I feel like his interactions with other characters are largely still the same, until he begins to trust them. You can tell who Mando trusts, because he talks to them more.

[@erickgonzales8383]

imagine if luke had a voice over thinking ooh shit iam becoming my father v:

[@lordgaroro]

At that moment, I noticed my hand , it was like my father's, I was turning into him, the very thing I swore to destroy, no, I will not be consumed by the dark side, I must fight back!

[@lordgaroro]

Like it could work, but that's how the movies have to be from the start then, like you can just suddenly change the formula. Like if they had done such voiceovers, they would have had to do it from the start and keep them till the end, plus it usually only works in a novel, and not a movie or even a graphic novel

[@IRONHIDE_Live]

if it was S.L. Jackson i could imagine it ... m.fucknig father :D

[@hardyncain-nox6891]

I Actualy think that will be a good joke for a star wars abridged serie

[@brgessner]

Now i am obsessed with finding ways to keep jawas out of the bird feeders.

[@HorsesandCourage]

Seeing that he went from a silent man to a babbling dad is definitely necessary character development. But I agree with everything else.

[@Blue-mj5gm]

Mando the babbling dad. I'm shocked by the accuracy

[@thomasjuniardi3559]

That because his "son" hasn't speak, imagine if Grogu are vocals like human toddlers..Mando probably do sign language. 😁

[@harrisonphipps31763]

@@thomasjuniardi3559 Queue footage of Mando talking the the Tuscans lol

[@halo_girl_2434]

I didn’t think of it that way, there were still awesome silences like the earlier ones, but I saw it as his character evolving because of Grogu. He was alone before, rarely talking to even those in the Convent, but then he gets someone in his life and he begins to open up.

[@Kokolitofora]

I liked when mando talked bc he was always warm and fatherly with grogu while being cold and reserved with anyone else

[@mangozzz4487]

“The very beginning of the fourth episode goes off-“ Me: hold up, you mean mando gets character development?

[@walterwhite8649]

Wait, is that even possible

[@jonathanthackeray7737]

​@@walterwhite8649 ha disney doing character development, no that isn't possible

[@Drakuba]

my thought exactly when ppl start criticizing him talking too much. He have a ffreaking baby and hes akward AF since he never did anything like it before and its clearly something different than what he have been doing/trained

[@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686]

@Always Unlucky yeah, the whole series was Mando becoming more and more like the other Mandolorians and starting to go against his own beliefs. We see the conclusion of this when he removed his helmet so that Grogu can see his face and in the Book Of Boba Fett we even see him being more sentimental and sweet

[@themasterseye]

@@Drakuba Except he isnt some 20 year old suburban man who just became a dad. He is a hardened bounty hunter that has literally faced life or death on multiple occasions. Ask around military bases what having an officer from the military as a parent can be like. It isnt awkward babbling, and over-talking its calculated and often cold. Mando went from bounty hunter to babysitter with little to no transition time. I'd point to something like Riddick, and how the character develops a bond with the dog. Cold and distant at first, but grows over time. (Im not saying Riddick does it perfectly by any means, it also has glaring flaws)

[@insomn3ak]

“At the end of the day, I don’t believe this simple space western can or will save the Star Wars franchise”. What about....now?

[@dan-mb2ne]

It's not a western anymore

[@charlesparsons6071]

Bull. There were literal Mexican standoffs in it. Chill dude and just enjoy it :)

[@dylanwalsh6677]

all it did was spend a whole season saying "hey here's this awesome character you guys love! Now Mando's gonna do stuff with them isn't that great?". after the sequel trilogy star wars kinda needed that, but if that's all the 2nd season was then 3rd seasons not gonna have much to stand on.

[@youraveragehotdog6836]

@@dylanwalsh6677 the 2nd season was much better than the 1st, and the 3rd is setting up to the best

[@dylanwalsh6677]

season 1 > season 2. I enjoyed 1 more and I do believe 1 was of higher technical quality too.

[@benjaminbristow]

The fact you cant see Mando's face at all yet can feel so much emotion through the scarce voice lines and body language is crazy

[@stonespicher2207]

I loved the scene at the beginning . It’s funny how you can tell so much emotion and what he’s thinking even though he is wearing a helmet that shows no facial expression at all.

[@Huvpalto]

That little scene with him screwing that ball back on the lever has more impact than the entirety of the sequel trilogy

[@daddehhmando5369]

“Creativity isn’t stoked by boundless freedom, but instead by tight constraints” - a teacher

[@tonyallen4265]

In the last few years, for creativity sake, I've come to appreciate and rely on self-imposed strict limits. The result is glorious focus.

[@cbalan777]

Most artists don't believe this. I've learned to draw with a mechanical pencil and copy paper. You'd think talking to artists that learning to be good requires a Wacom tablet and a $2000 computer given the resistance to do it without those things.

[@Alpharius180]

SoulsBorne universe is this perfected, a very deep lore and story that is entirely visual with the occasion set of item descriptions.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@cbalan777 Ye. Copy paper. #2 pencil and clipboard gang!

[@chaddafoe3105]

Narrow way of looking into things. It's not hard to find the perfect grey area between convention and convention-breaking. But then again, not everyone can.

[@allknowingfreddybear9291]

I think the Qui-Gon and Maul scene is my personal favorite. There is so much emotion and tension there without the need for over explaining things. I also really liked how they hinted at thing between Qui-Gon and Dooku which pointed out a lot of things about the two and revealed deeper levels without having to say it.

[@mawile3037]

9:13 almost killed me LMAO oh man, such a great show, Mando then picks him up like " alright I've had enough " lol, all in the body language

[@Imetalman2000]

“I don’t think this space western can save Star Wars”.... here after the season 2 finale. This comment did not age well.

[@lelevi3764]

69th like

[@admthrawnuru]

The power to destroy a franchise is insignificant next to the power of the Disney. The terrible movies will soon be back... and in greater numbers.

[@MR.ICE.]

@Six Paths Naruto The same can be said to you. Edit: Pussy deleted his comment.

[@ironicbobcat1]

Whos line is that?

[@Dyno_64]

Its totally a good show, but it doesn't save anything, it just shows how good Star Wars can be

[@princesssmileyface91]

I liked when Mando talks to Grogu, it’s him coming out of his comfort zone, before Grogu, he was a anti social lonely person, then Grogu comes along, and gets him out of that shell. They both needed one another, both were lonely for a long time. Grogu needed Mando just as much as Mando needed Grogu.

[@moth8775]

No

[@paulipaz]

Exactly! Mando telling the kid where they’re going and why is more about his character arc in relationship to how the kid changes him more than just telling us for the sake of explaining things.

[@armysunicorn9630]

@@moth8775 yes

[@WarDog12117]

I agree with everything you said up till the last 2 minutes. I don't see how Din breaking his normal silent guy routine could be seen as a bad thing. He doesn't have experience with children so he's awkwardly explaining to him where they're going, even though Grogu probably didn't understand a word he said. If anything, it shows how underneath the mysterious silent bounty hunter exterior is also a caring father figure who's trying his best to take care of a child but doesn't know how to do. That's not lazy writing, it's character development

[@PlaysTheThing]

Was it awkward? To me it felt totally natural, like how any dad would talk to his kid. And that was the entire problem for me. Mando should *grow* into his dad role. It should have been *more* awkward. The style and his character shifted instantly instead of gradually.

[@Eric-kb2xt]

Two years later, The Mandalorian has single handed my saved the franchise. Bet you feel silly now.

[@mr.fridayatholidays5642]

The mandalorian talking doesn’t really have anything to do with explaining stuff to the audience. Naturally when you’re in the care of something like a child, you begin to talk a lot more. Doesn’t even matter if you’re a mute, you’d begin doing a lot of noises and talking a lot in order to make a child or creature you’re taking care of feel less lonely and more entertained and what not. It showed us that despite how reserved Mando is, he has a very deep bond with Grogu. Imagine if mando was quiet all the time still... that would make it seem like Mando is a robot who probably doesn’t care about Grogu

[@PlaysTheThing]

You definitely do begin to talk a lot more, but it should be a slow transition. People don't just wake up one day different, they change little by little and don't even notice that they are changing at all. The jump between episode 3 and episode 4 could easily make it feel less like Mando's character is evolving and more like there was a different writer. And if you feel that way, it's pretty immersion shattering.

[@Perseus7567]

@@PlaysTheThing Well to be fair there was the change from the beginning, ever since he saw Grogu. Remember, he "killed" IG to protect him right from the get-go. Then there was all that reluctance to let him stay with the empire.

[@PlaysTheThing]

Is that really change though? Mando was always going to see himself in the child because of who he was, so he didn't let IG kill it. But he still took it to the Empire, because that's also who he was. The scene at the beginning of my video is the war between the two pieces of Mando's self that are in conflict over this decision: the professional and the foundling. The foundling wins and he goes and rescues the child. Nowhere in his existing characterization is an aspect of "father." If there was, he never would have taken the child back to the Empire in the first place. Then suddenly he's relating to it like a father at the beginning of the next episode. You are correct: when you are in the care of something like a new child or pet you begin to relate to it like a father, chatting to it, giving it nicknames, being attentive to its needs. You BEGIN to. Nicknames and easy chatter come slowly, but they do come.

[@Perseus7567]

@@PlaysTheThing Yes but it's easy to forget it's a TV show/movie. In that I mean: 1) Interest. People don't want to see hours and hours of slow development just to further the plot of one episode, or part of the film depending on what it is. 2.) Time. Again, hours and hours of slow development has to be compressed down into something smaller. We can't sit at the cinema for 13 hours watching slow development, we can't and no one would either. 3.) Story and cast changes. If it's a TV show that may last a while, actors come and go for various reasons, often out of the directors control. Imagine putting 18-hours on-screen worth of slow development for a character only for, say, the actor to die tragically in a car accident during filming. This obviously will then either end the show, or they might need someone to replace them and the story might then go a different path in which more background story may be needed, linking in to the first two issues. Yes development is important and it should be "shown, not told", there has to be some telling otherwise it'd just be an endless cycle of showing people changing, rather than actual storylines or action.

[@turkepic3637]

@@Perseus7567 Yeah , honestly it is mandatory that pacing in Visual Media is faster than real life. Even books , a form of media that can be slower need to make it faster because you can write so much before it gets boring.

[@christianfune2247]

mando talking more and more just seems like character development to me, from a cold bounty hunter, to a caring father figure, ofc he isn’t going to be quiet and mysterious the entire time bc he has the little homie grogu changing the man

[@anchoviesonnachos7074]

You can really sense that Character development. Early in the show, when looking for baby yoda, he’s a killing machine. No thoughts. Later on though, when he grows a fondness to the child, you can see him act a lot more cautiously compared to the other mandalorians, in a “who is going to protect the kid” kinda way

[@sheldonjplanktonn]

The little homie 🤣

[@alenasenie6928]

The thing in mandalorian that for me was a complete unknown until season 2 was the inconsistency of the rules for mandalorians between the show and the other series, but in season 2 all that was answered in a few lines from Bo Katan, when he asked why they weren't wearing the helmets everytime, "he is one of them". Knowing how many different viewpoints mandalorians had in the show about what is right, what is honorable, how they should behave, etc. That immediately told me he was part of a group that was not widely accepted by mandalorians, that was even more radical (in their view, not in actions) than Deathwatch. I also was intrigued when the armor of Boba was shown, it is also interesting than in one scene with Boba in his armor they did more for that character than the original trilogy.

[@nuyabuisness7526]

Mando's character arc is about him breaking away from the strictness of the code he was raised with. He learns to actually deal with the emotions he's spent years burying. He learns to trust people outside of his enclave. He has to deal with serving as a caretaker to Grogu, to do the right thing because it is right rather than just something that will benefit his people. Then the end of the second season where he has to do that right thing and give up Grogu. After spending months with him, with the sole purpose of uniting him with other Jedi, once he gets there it's the one thing he doesn't want to do.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

"Mando just ends up talking too much." This video had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@JabbaNoFatta]

Right. I just clicked it off after he said that especially when he said he had a problem with Mando talking to Baby Grogu Yoda.

[@Probablylani]

I know... like he still barely talks? And Din’s moments are always enjoyable. I think he just clings to the old movies in a biased sense.

[@LethalByChoice]

Yeah and I'm not subbing because of that incredibly idiotic statement. Din Djarin still doesn't talk much, he talks to baby Yoda because he's growing closer with him, yeah he's gunna talk to him a bit more than he would anyone else. It's the same for when Geralt talks to Yennefer in The Witcher series more than he does anyone else, he even says "I've said more to you in 5 minutes than I have in weeks" or however he said it. This guy is a massive moron for suggesting that Din Djarin talking to Baby Yoda means he's "telling rather than showing." Because there are times to tell and times when you don't. The Mandalorian got it right, The Last Jedi DIDN'T.

[@steggyweggy]

Bruh, one criticism and y’all are sent running. That’s some weak shit. You guys know he doesn’t have to completely agree with everything you think for you to watch him right?

[@milkweed8176]

@@steggyweggy same goes both way

[@dapperdanman8486]

I don't mind when Mando starts talking more, it honestly conveys alot of emotion in the right way. Shows his father side, and shows he now has someone to talk to instead of keeping everything to himself

[@bigd4wg510]

I think he means showing parts of the story instead of just telling the audience what happens

[@MasterBuilderDragon]

As a nanny of 3 toddlers, I often find myself randomly talking about what I’m doing around them too. Even if they can’t understand you you still find yourself talking to them. It’s just something you naturally do when taking care of little ones.

[@PlaysTheThing]

Of course. But I think if you were a Mandalorian bounty hunter it might not be so easy to fall into that. And watching him struggle might be good drama.

[@sirflappington2484]

for me, the change in Mando didn't bother me because intentional or not, it felt like Grogu was the one changing him from a mindless too serious bounty hunter to something more human.

[@juliuscorrea2863]

I thought it was pretty natural how Mando started talking more around a being who's only lines are goo goo ga ga, imagine how awkward it would be if he didn't. Also he was growing more comfortable around the little guy

[@yourmilkisontheway5214]

“The mandalorian doesn’t take off his helmet” Goblin Slayer: This is the way

[@JP-hk6xw]

Wow their backstories really are similar. Mostly silent armoured guy who makes his money by taking bounties and has a grudge against the species that made him an orphan.

[@MrSloth-tl5yv]

Oh you right

[@carbodude5414]

@@JP-hk6xw They are nothing alike beyond extremely superficial similarities

[@carbodude5414]

Don't bring up that garbage with Mando.

[@JP-hk6xw]

@@carbodude5414 Greatest apologies, I'll be sure to ask for your permission first next time I comment

[@zdvxr]

Grogu is the reason Mando has opened up and it makes the story far better

[@ordinarylittlebastard3248]

Honestly, Mando talking was for the best to me. I understand how you say Mando should have grown to talk more slowly, and I agree to say the least. He talks, but not overly, and we can clearly understand his objectives once. He also would need to talk more due to them meeting new characters along the way. A complaint I have however, is how Mando sometimes asks Grogu questions, which he knows he can't respond. I just wonder if he's asking that to himself or to him.

[@heatherprice8662]

I ask my pets questions all the time. I think its the same.

[@Autisticguywithacamera]

Good point. I've always liked The Mandalorian better than the new trilogy, and I can't wait until the next season comes out.

[@brt1strrbb110]

"always." Dude, it's been like a year and a half

[@Team_ghost9503]

Yea, i dislike all the shit movies and after the first few movies I stopped wasting money. Mandalorian is what brought me back, and the only reason I pay for Disney plus.

[@gaslightingabbie]

@@Team_ghost9503 I do like all 6 Star Wars movies

[@Team_ghost9503]

@@gaslightingabbie I meant the squeal trilogy considering the “first few movies”

[@gaslightingabbie]

@@Team_ghost9503 yeah, there is only 6?! Tfm aotc Rots Sw Esb Rotj What are the other 3 you are talking about I only know of those

[@locoartsuu9607]

You really wanted Mando to just shut up and hope fans would love that unchanging, unengaging persona for a whole season? For the first time in his life (probably) he was finally investing attention to someone, and trust me, that gets you talking, asking, and explaining. Also, when he speaks on the example you showed, some lines were really not worth "showing", remember that this show runs on fantasy budget and in that case, they'd rather LOGICALLY let a man monologue to a baby his intentions rather than slideshow a bunch of CGI ecosystems.

[@alexanderarmageddon1467]

Something tells me this dude likes his sex silent, too 😂

[@oz2037]

@@alexanderarmageddon1467 You didn't have to go there bro lmao 😭😭😭

[@bigd4wg510]

@@alexanderarmageddon1467 lol 😆 😂 🤣

[@CeruleanSword]

@@alexanderarmageddon1467 Lmfao!

[@feelcollins4358]

@@alexanderarmageddon1467 He hates fake moaning, "show don't tell that you feel good" 🤣🤣

[@marslol6938]

I’m so glad you brought up Luke’s hand from ROTJ! It really is perfect. They never talk about his hand, but in the start of the film they make sure to show us his hand being damaged and remind us with his glove. So simple but perfect. Also, side note, having only one black glove on his hand showing Luke’s balance between dark and light. The dark concealing what he lost to the dark side since he battled Vader in Empire with fear and battling emotion. Anytime someone goes against the force, the force takes its pound of flesh. And that shits so cool

[@arrow3276]

I think Mando talking more in the 4th and more episodes is a good thing because we can tell he is talking more because he is acting more like a father and starting to get attached to the kid

[@animatednerd3428]

The fact that I can tell what’s mando is thinking through that helmet, means it’s good at atmosphere and tone

[@LeumazDnazor]

Star wars has always been good with that, especially with vader

[@ahri5601]

“You failed you highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me” Luke’s dialogue is so empowering it gives me chills every time

[@Kachigga-rs7yh]

The old movies were so much better, now we gotta deal with “who are you? Ray. Ray who? Ray skywalker” like that just sounded so dumb in the movie, it also seems like the movies are just dull and boring I don’t know how much longer I’ll be a fan of Star Wars

[@totallyanonymousbish9599]

@@Kachigga-rs7yh do you know the channel "So Uncivilized"? He makes some great reviews on the star wars movies and absolutely killed the sequels in his latest analysis video.

[@Kachigga-rs7yh]

@@totallyanonymousbish9599 I don’t think I do but I remember watching a video short after it came out saying how dumb 9 was because of all the wasted side quests

[@totallyanonymousbish9599]

@@Kachigga-rs7yh check them out then! Their amazing! But watch them in chronological order, so 1-6, only then does his sequel analysis make more sense.

[@steventok1471]

While throwing away his lightsaber, his only weapon, for no reason, instead of just turning it off and place it on its holster, even tho there's still one hostile enemy, and a sith master at that..... I love the scenes/dialogues too, but lets be honest, that was dumb af lol

[@sitfish1113]

I like how literally everybody disagrees with him in some way

[@paradox1315]

imagine if this was The beginning of the mandalorian: I walk into the bar, I should have felt scared or panicked but i diddnt, I knew Greef Karga was here somewhere. Bro i would have unlocked the force just to destroy any mandalorian based star wars theme

[@skynet.52]

Mando's self talks with Grogu actually make some kind of sense, i think everyone with Children or especially pets can understand just randomly talking to them

[@dynamicphotography_]

Season 2 is even on another level.

[@michaelkeaton5394]

Well Rodriguez's episode is kind of the worst episode in term of vfx, righting, and editing, not surprising from rodriguez that dude never really knew how to make good action...

[@spikeeus]

@@michaelkeaton5394 I disagree. That was the best Star Wars I’ve seen in a very long time.

[@michaelkeaton5394]

@@spikeeus I'm not saying the series is bad I'm saying the episode is bad, rodriguez didn't made an episode as good as we saw before...

[@spikeeus]

@@michaelkeaton5394 and I’m saying Rodriguez’s episode was the best one to date.

[@Stegibbon]

@@michaelkeaton5394 wtf Rodriguez is like an action movie legend!?

[@ald00I]

mando starting to talk was brilliant, because he wasnt talking to us but grogu. hes starting to treat him like a person not an object or pet

[@lionhart1517]

Another great example of "show don't tell" comes with Vader's change of heart. Originally he was silent, and even as a kid I could feel the struggle behind his mask. Once they added in the "nos," the scene lost all impact for me.

[@codypowell1241]

Someone in the movie: talks This guy: QUIT THAT

[@christianlopez2793]

Well some of it is unnecessary dialogue

[@isabellapichardo1813]

HONESTLY HELNGKENG

[@tastycake7938]

@@christianlopez2793 There can always be unnecessary dialogue. But in the examples Mando was talking to the child instead. So it isn't just useless dialogue.

[@christianlopez2793]

@@tastycake7938 well I’m not talking about the mandalorian Im talking about the sequel trilogy

[@noahfortnum4746]

I think this is a really hypercritical analyzation of the mandolorian series. The extra dialogue was spot on and timely. It aided in the character development for mando, and solidified the relationship between him and Grogu.

[@MackNcD]

Call it what it is. It’s a bad overview. The guy wanted to jump on the ‘critical of star wars train’ because the sequel trilogy was terrible and deserved the criticism and scorn for almost single-handedly ruining the series… And jumped the gun, mindlessly shitting on something actually well done. The guy just isn’t too bright or is just whiney about everything, inlcuidng well-made stuff.

[@bored3542]

@@MackNcD everyone has there opinions

[@thatoneguymatt987]

@@MackNcD lol, "well done"... you're a hoot

[@dearsiri9428]

The mandalorian and the new sh*t that has come out of Disney’s as*hole is truly the most smelliest bullsh*t I have yet to witness. Dramatic as* scenes and cheese everywhere. Who is even la those intolerant in Beijing ?

[@Milk_Toast]

@@dearsiri9428 strangest reply I’ve seen

[@cruelassassin2445]

It’s amazing how Disney could make rogue one and mandalorian which did so well but then when they made the sequel that it was just so different, it had good parts but a lot of parts were just annoying like with Finn being hinted to be the Jedi or even special but then just cast aside as the side character who screams for the main character

[@billymoak3848]

That scene is taken out of context, the voice over immediately leads into a scene where Rey is explaining what just happened to Kylo. Pretty effectively showing us how much she’s starting to trust him without explicitly telling us.

[@Noah-jb9om]

dont even try to defend that dumpster fire of a movie lmao

[@billymoak3848]

@@Noah-jb9om Am I wrong, this video is misleading and anyone taking writing advice from should know. I wasn’t really defending it, I was just stating a fact

[@hail_yeet462]

@@Noah-jb9om it's a fricking movie, people can like it or dislike it, it's an opinion

[@why8298]

@@hail_yeet462 opinions can be wrong.

[@hail_yeet462]

Yeah your right but not everyone hate the sequel trilogy for example I like the force awakens, it had lot of potential the others I don't like but that's just an opinion to me you don't have to agree alot of people hate them but it's an opinion it's not a cold hard fact.

[@JordanOrme]

FACTS. Story always comes first.

[@matizpl9249]

Yes.

[@BenjaminBizarre]

Personally I can forgive a weaker story that has great characters. Edit: Not that the new Star Wars movies had great characters though... Or even adequate characters.

[@aisahkombos1034]

Its true that story comes first but its how you deliver the story that makes it enjoyable to watch

[@spook407]

I think mando actually puts lore first

[@f4ptr989]

Tell Disney that, I don’t think they heard. The new trilogy is not Star Wars anymore, it’s Disney. Only Rogue One was good.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

5 minutes into the Mandalorian, my love of Star wars returned.

[@AndreNitroX]

Took me a little longer, I was still mistrustful, but now in season 2 I’m feeling joy again for Star Wars

[@outoforder0]

It could sound stupid but the moment I saw the pre-release footage from Star Wars Celebration, I knew how much promise it contained. That was alo far exceeded with Season 2 thus far.

[@SlaughterhouseDb]

[@AndreNitroX]

@@outoforder0 i believe you, theres like this sixth sense for movies and shows when you have seen a lot, you know when there is potential.

[@boncret]

I am so thankful for Jon and his teams work!

[@davidwas77]

I wish Dave Filoni directed and/or wrote the sequels. He knows all the secrets to make every type of character great.

[@montagcocknball5431]

I think that the Mandalorian was the perfect balance between explaining everything and not explaining everything

[@SignoftheMagi]

Not speaking when alone is fine. But not speaking with a child who is seeking attention as Grogu was is borderline abuse. It is perfectly normal and expected for Din to talk to Grogu about what is happening, as that is what a parent or adult does with a child. If he was still silent, it would kill some of the believability of the relationship. Also...seriously...if you think you can do a franchise series and not have references, you don't understand fandoms. The only problem comes when you overdo it just to promote something else. See Ahsoka Tano in the second season

[@LethalByChoice]

Exactly. I think this guy is a straight up fool who doesn't understand the show and makes dumbass statements.

[@arohk1579]

I agree hell I will have conversations with my cat when I'm doing stuff, it's just something adult's do when it comes to caring.

[@MrCharles7994]

Ahsoka did serve the plot though, not the other way around. Of course Mando would find a Jedi, but not *the right* Jedi, and of course that Jedi would nope out of teaching Grogu given her character and how screwed up the lad was. The contrast between Luke and Ahsoka as Jedi is brilliant. It's honestly very well done.

[@funkyjbass7762]

Also, what the video seems to neglect is that the actor can't use his face to communicate anything to the audience. It is all done by voice and posture. In those scenes he is sitting, so can only talk to progress the scene. Else it is him sitting, scanning, and hoping that the audience can understand why he selects a planet and discards others, and why he is going there. That would be a dull and confusing scene to open an episode. And fan service is fun. I am a fan, I like to be serviced . . . that sounded awkward . . .

[@vitorhenrique5229]

@@funkyjbass7762 The audience would understand why he chose it when the scenes show that the planet is a rural and almost unpopulated place.

[@kieran8984]

the talking in episode 4 is just him trying to communicate with grogu whom he's starting to feel. a bond with

[@spicytoast6890]

It's called "subtlety", it's something I deeply appreciate in story telling.

[@TwinOaksTV]

“I don’t think this show can save Star Wars” Mandalorian season 2 finale: “I’m about to end this man’s career”.

[@grogu5169]

Lol

[@turinturambar501]

Low fan service.

[@SharkyFX-tt4mt]

Bruh twas awesome. It’s Dave filoni and Jon favraue snapping Disney back into place.

[@ro4eva]

@@turinturambar501 -- There was nothing "low" about it. The entire planet of Star Wars fans erupted with an outpouring of joyous tears that was ~37 years in the making, and was enough to fill an Olympic-sized swimming pool. What is probably "low" are the Serotonin levels of the glorified bloggers ("journalists") who excel at publicly wallowing in self-pity online and hating whomever refuses to listen to their naive, expertise-devoid advice. These people behave like perpetually miserable sleuths who're in dire need of medical attention -- ideally, with an anti-depressant prescription.

[@therotary4088]

​@@vikkran401 I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[@mariafancypants]

Imagine paying for Daisy and Adam’s faces and talents and then just not using them. It’s like buying copic markers dipped in gold to draw a stick figure.

[@emiliou6898]

Wdym Rey and kylo are the best of the sequels, each one makes the character better

[@harrisonphipps31763]

@@emiliou6898 Kylo had some good character development yes. It was interesting to see how he went from a Vader-like figure (although I think Vader is better) at the beginning of TFA to being broken inside in a way after he killed Han Solo. He started hesitating more like when he didn't shoot the bridge of the Raddus. Then he started drifting back to the light side and he came back. (Love Adam Driver's performance btw) Rey on the other hand... I didn't really like her character arc. There's no struggle involved. She seemed to get everything handed to her. Lightsaber skills? Here ya go. Instant mastery of Jedi mind tricks? Sure thing. Resources required to beat a fleet of superweaponed ISDs? Yeet em in. The only time she seemed to struggle was with Palpatine being her grandpappy but she just kinda took the Skywalker name instead. Nothing really against Daisy Ridley. She did well with what she got. The directors could've done better though. Like Ridley said they didn't even know who was going to be the grandfather until like the middle of when they were shooting TROS.

[@loupty7303]

@@harrisonphipps31763 she's just better and you have to accept that people can be born with talent and for goodness sake she was the chosen one to bring balance to the force so I would hope she would be pretty good I don't see how it would make sense if she was like all other Jedi and still be the chosen one but that's not how it works. also its just a movie.

[@loupty7303]

@@harrisonphipps31763 but I agree the grandfather thing was stupid but a good twist but still what do you expect its a movie

[@babaskrra9883]

@@loupty7303 Born with talent, sure. Anakin was born with talent, yet he needed years to become a good jedi. Rey cannot have done what she did without years of training

[@delsim3550]

My favorite part about The Mandalorian is that it gave me some hope for the future of star wars

[@camerontroscianiec5320]

At the end, I think the talking was somewhat warranted as it shows Din's walls somewhat breaking down, even if it was to keep a problematic kid at bay. It sets up perfectly for his human side to show through later in the series, and to end his stoicism that kept him weaker and more isolated than before

[@carbodude5414]

Mando showed more personality and depth than any new character in the Sequel trilogy in spite of almost always never showing his face.

[@turinturambar501]

Kylo Ren disagrees. Mando can be a fun character, but depth is not one of its qualities. At least he's the only good character in the show.

[@steggyweggy]

Gonna have to disagree on this one. Luke, whether you like how his character changed or not, definitely has more depth and characterization in TLJ than Mando. Every other character however, Mando outdoes

[@bam062988]

@@turinturambar501 i mean, you’re dead wrong homie. Stick to Indian food.

[@turinturambar501]

@@bam062988Congratulations, man. You won the award for most ridiculous comment.

[@Shadowkey392]

@@bam062988 most nonsensical comment ever.

[@madookamagooka743]

thats kinda scary i legit DONT remember there being a stupid voice over during that scene but i went back into the movie to check and... yeah there is. wtf i remember it being silent.

[@robi3366]

I've forgotten it all tbh

[@otsch.i8409]

​ @Roberto Rosean I just tried to fade them out

[@FuddlyDud]

You remembered better than it is XD

[@kal2352]

Honestly I don't remember much from the last trilogy, just pretend they don't exist.

[@adriox23]

@You tube there’s a difference between dialogue that makes you feel a certain way, and dialogue that tells you how to feel. You can very much show with dialogue, or you can tell with it, and while Lucas was telling us how evil the emperor is through his dialogue, Luke’s dialogue in that scene shows us his internal struggle without having to tell us every single thing he’s feeling and why. Rey’s voice over is an example of telling AND showing. It’s okay to tell when information must come across quickly, it’s always good to show when you have time to, but you should never ever ever show and then tell, or tell and then show, or do both at once, that’s just annoying.

[@kilochampion787]

Your sum up of Luke’s I am a Jedi moment is something I agree with monumentally. Everything you said during that was literally hitting the same beats as when I describe that scene and it really captures the spirit of Luke’s full arc.

[@Taserface__]

My mind quickly switched from "What are you talking about?" to "He's got a point"

[@JoelCreates]

Great articulation of these ideas. Constraints are a creative's friend. Indirect communication rewards the recipient for their perception. I designed a science fiction movie set recently, and have been obsessed with similar cinematic concepts since.

[@abrahemsamander3967]

Ah great! What’s the movie called?

[@chaddafoe3105]

[Good luck for your work, but there's more to it than that. The TLJ scene isn't the "Show don't tell" deal breaker the video thinks it is.] Except, here the voiceover acts sort of like a J-Cut, setting up the next scene, setting up the fact that she's sharing her feelings with someone and we, the audience, wonder if it is Luke, and the next scene reveals it's Kylo himself she's sharing her deepest feelings with, not Luke. Instead of the Rey-Kylo scene having its own beginning as a separate scene, it begins *along with* the cave scene with the voiceover, and is followed by the Rey-Luke "fight". Johnson seamlessly blends these 3 scenes and creates one sequence that has its own 3 acts (not that it necessarily had to, but it does). Act 1: Rey goes in the cave, faces the reflections, and the voiceover seamlessly leads to the next scene, mid-conversation, and the revelation that it's Kylo she's talking to. Act 2: Rey-Kylo bonds, only to be interrupted by Luke, which leads to their confrontation. Act 3: Confrontation culminates with Luke's revelation. Resolution- Rey leaves Luke. An incrediblely written and directed sequence where the voiceover plays a vital role naturally tying the two scenes together other than just explaining what's happening on screen. Also, the cave scene is complex enough to rely on more than the visual medium, her verbal contemplation of how she felt is perfectly justified, and her openness with Kylo about how she felt pushes their bond forward. In the Luke-Yoda scene, Luke is showing his anger and frustration by saying it outloud to Yoda that he's burning it all down, almost as if he wants Yoda to stop him from doing so. But Yoda does the exact opposite to drive home the lesson, to Luke's own surprise (THE SACRED JEDI TEXT!). The fact that Mando gradually becomes talkative not only paves way for (necessary) exposition, but also shows his growth and bond with Baby Yoda. It's easy for an amateur analytical filmgoer or aspiring filmmaker to look at conventional screenwriting sayings like "Show don't tell" or quotes from great writers, take them at face value and start applying them to scenes left and right, without analyzing those scenes further to uncover the dozen other factors that are at play that result in those directorial/screenwriting decisions. An understanding of what the storyteller was trying to do. But then again, understanding a lot of it, when the conventions apply and when they don't, is...simply intuitive ig. I could've probably just said that a filmmaker with a resume like Rian Johnson-the guy who wrote Knives Out and got an Oscar nomination for best screenplay-had heard of "Show don't tell" and be done with it, (tho even that wouldn't have matched the cocky tone of the video), but I guess i decided to be a little constructive.

[@juanpablolunaalmeida1087]

@@chaddafoe3105 blah blah blah

[@TheYetixOUTx]

Recommend watching gennedys Primal

[@mikekostecka3291]

one year later: mandalorian did save star wars

[@syrup9701]

now that there will be 3 plus more starwars series coming soon in disney plus, i think it would be cool and wise for them just to let the new trilogy go. never mention it again, and perhaps make it non canon

[@intheclear3492]

@@syrup9701 like that’s ever gonna happen

[@syrup9701]

@@intheclear3492 can i at least dream

[@Mr._pants]

WELL IF ONLY THAT COULD HAVE STAYED TRUE

[@lostsoul4784]

The saying is that “action speaks louder than words” One of my favorite scenes in Star Wars the Bad Batch is when Crosshair and his new squad takes over Clone Force 99’s old room, not a word is spoken and its not needed the silence says it all

[@melissamartinezhernandez278]

I lost it when "some how palpatin is alive" a literally opening line in the movie... They just said it like nothing and accept it without questions and move on 🙃

[@TheVagabond627]

@Arpice Music Chris Terrio: We said “what if we were to bring Palpatine back?” And within 30 seconds of that idea, we went “that’d be great. Let’s do it.” (Paraphrasing) Translation: We didn’t think about it at all. We thought of the easiest nostalgia bait and ran with it without any intention of explaining it.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

"The First Order Reigns!" How?!??!?!!!!!?? Didn't they get the crap kicked outta them? And hasn't only been a few days, a week or so _at best_ for the characters? You can't _Reign_ over the galaxy in that span of time. Oh right,you're just copying "Empire Strikes Back" but suckier. And not answering anything set up in the previous film. Nevermind.

[@byron2FZ]

@@hellacoorinna9995 don't worry all the background information was in *Fortnite*

[@steggyweggy]

@@hellacoorinna9995 still better than the shitstorm that came after it tho

[@steggyweggy]

That’s what happens when you don’t make a roadmap for a trilogy and entrust that trilogy in the hands of two people with completely different visions for how the trilogy should go

[@nicholasshealy9040]

Show don’t tell. A lost art.

[@nicholasshealy9040]

@You tube Well what did you expect, that every character in the movie needs to be completely mute? News flash, characters need to talk from time to time, yes Palpatine is telling in this scene but when Luke saw what he did to Vader when he lost himself (as mentioned in the video) was showing, I like how you glossed over that btw. And saying Rey has better writing than Palpatine and saying Kylo is a complex character is fucking stupid, that tells me you are either biased or too butt hurt to see the Sequel Trilogy failed. And yes, there was Snoke talking when Rey grabbed Kylo’s lightsaber, Luke’s death WAS a joke in the eyes of many (the majority pretty much) and are you seriously praising Holdo? Who’s a complete waste of space character that replaced Ackbar as a colossal middle finger to fans? Lastly, why the hell are you dumping this on ME?! I was only saying I missed show don’t tell in movies.

[@darrensmith8730]

@@nicholasshealy9040 They're Disney trilogy fans, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to. Probably thinks Rey is one of the greatest Star Wars characters, too! 😂

[@nicholasshealy9040]

@@darrensmith8730 Touché

[@toocanny]

@You tube you seem really stupid and the Disney trilogy is not canon, it’s trash.

[@motor4X4kombat]

Yeah but people still love the prequels that most of those are nothing bu boring talking with dated cgi.

[@user-of8ri7gh3w]

amazing is that Mandalorian does not show his face, yet you still know his feeling