SHOWMAKER VS KIIN LCK CIVIL WAR - KT VS DK - WORLDS 2023 - CAEDREL

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[@remveel2443]

Caedrel’s draft predictions: 100 Caedrel’s match predictions: 0

[@briansze6137]

Fax

[@DaWasTaken]

Man's match prediction is dog water unless it's Weibo

[@karl0261]

always amazed by how acurately caedrel can predict the draft picks

[@ivanpuklavec6494]

I mean thats really sad because it means the sam champs are always rotated

[@greenhat7618]

@@ivanpuklavec6494that’s like literally any game with a fucking meta, and somehow given this “sad” situation no one predicts draft like he does

[@ivanpuklavec6494]

@@greenhat7618 just no, in league they dont even pick half of them champs even though the champs they pick are not best in slot, in dota they pick a lot more champs

[@greenhat7618]

@@ivanpuklavec6494 dota is so much more complicated than league obviously way more strats can work, but that’s also why less people play/watch it cuz the entry barrier is so high, also balancing is shit in league

[@yukipaw1702]

@@ivanpuklavec6494 It's because the players have a pool of comfortable champions, that combine with what they played in scrims vs the other teams being examples and evidences for their team comp and draft process. What they picked might not even be meta but it's just what was proven to worked best in scrims

[@Ascasc1980]

Thanks for the anti spoiler plant! Please do that in the next videos too! Earlier I was kinda annoyed that I'd spoil myself when I glanced at the timer. Thanks Caedrel!

[@Elessar00]

The teamfights were crazy in this series. Total chaos, you don't know who's gonna win until the end of the fight. I really enjoyed that.

[@scifimisc9191]

No, it was 100% KT was going to win any teamfight they were opting into. DK are that bad at it

[@zomdday]

except when aiming decides to sprint it@@scifimisc9191

[@rafayetrasti6191]

I will really miss Deft, Canyon and Showmaker for the rest of this Worlds. Really wish them the best of luck next year they deserve a more coherent roster.

[@sharpiefumes]

Roster wasn’t bad really but their competition was very steep

[@rafayetrasti6191]

@@sharpiefumes roster was absolutely trash what do you mean man. Canna and Kellin are nowhere near the level of quality that can be expected from the Lck's fourth seed. This further snowballed to create a divisive team that lacks in communication and synergy because two of their players are literally inters.

[@Vladumere]

@@rafayetrasti6191damn surely if they are worlds contenders they aren’t that bad : o

[@rafayetrasti6191]

@@Vladumere nah they were never contenders for the title this year trust me. Too many internal issues and their scrim results were also horrible.

[@deftabyss280]

Canna was somewhat fine this worlds but Kellin griefed a lot of fights. Really bad engages and kind of indecisive if he'll go in or not

[@SpineBreakerZ]

I bet Caedral plans to make an org and build a team just for TheShy

[@combeebrian247]

TheShy-Caedrel-Rookie-JackeyLove-MikyX kekw

[@M1ch43l33]

​@@combeebrian247Why Miky when you can give them Hyperint for the full psychopath coinflip roster?

[@alex2005z]

​@@M1ch43l33Rookie is a bit to consistent for that no?

[@7cmheaven]

29:51 why is noone talking about the aphelios ult????

[@hallelujah8307]

Deft ulted into next season

[@stijnmulder4394]

No Joke i would have played that fight 3 times better as a gold player

[@JUNGLEsausage]

Must have been a bug or that minimap movement was turned on.

[@namfingerstyle8403]

​@@JUNGLEsausage you joking right?

[@JUNGLEsausage]

Maybe.@@namfingerstyle8403

[@mukamuka0]

With this match conclusion, it's mean DK was never won a single game against KT since the beginning of Summer 2023...

[@bladesofglory100]

WHO IS EDITING THESE IN ONE HOUR. Absolute demon mode editor

[@Lebpnguyen]

Honestly it’s not that hard bro =))

[@FrenchDinosaur]

​@@Lebpnguyenbruh. You saying that shows how much experience you have with video editing...

[@abdallaosama574]

​@@FrenchDinosaurIt's literally not rocket science dude. It's a job well done but he just puts time stamps while he's watching the match online then cuts the vod according to it.

[@FrenchDinosaur]

@@abdallaosama574 just because something isn't "rocket science" does not mean it's not difficult. Buddy, you're confusing easiness with simpleness here. That's 2 different things. If I asked you to fill a bucket up a bucket with a hole in the bottom, can you do it? The task is very simple, but it's by no means any less hard.

[@abdallaosama574]

@@FrenchDinosaur Because rocket science isn't difficult, you sure chose the wrong analogy for your point here. Yeah it's a simple process but at the same time not that hard, unlike your bucket the same steps I mentioned is what he actually does to make this vod, nothing more nothing less.

[@emilchaos1489]

Rip DK, my favorite eastern team. I hope showmaker and canyon can bounce back next year

[@seilamael]

I think showmaker and canyon are going to retire

[@tomula2718]

@@seilamaelwhy would they lol

[@ImFataI]

@@tomula2718 Not Canyon but Showmaker has talked about how he doesn't enjoy the game anymore and hasn't for a while. I wouldn't be surprised to see him gone soon.

[@k1m3l33]

28:35 bro deft is insane

[@k0bbihd667]

Yo I thought no one saw that😂😂

[@sonyphamgg]

It may have been a bug. I had it happen with aphelios q before where it went to a random location (not where my cursor was pointing to)

[@alphagaming6712]

Yeah, man he almost destroyed the nexus with that one.

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

It's not a bug...@@sonyphamgg

[@OverBark_]

His reaction to Aiming inting is too good

[@rascalvo]

8:05 BDD saved flash and got caught, but later on the baron fight the flash was up so they won the fight Funny how the right play sometimes is to save flash for the more impactful plays

[@ravensanchez3914]

Probably because Azir was already online before he got caught.

[@richie1496]

31:06 watching Kellin doing absolutely nothing the whole fight, doesn’t even walk up with ult up

[@nvinh42]

KT so unlucky throughout this worlds but they still managed to survive, hope they can do smth with JDG

[@haol3222]

@6:45 Caedrel explaining why he hate watches KT is like that dad that gets yelled at by his boss all day to then unknowingly internalize it by taking it out on his wife and kids when he gets back home.

[@danielliang9266]

28:32 It just sucks for DK that Deft decided to play like my aphelios this one fight, can't win like that

[@sheuwhwgs]

What happens to deft ult

[@kaiwingyuen1861]

A salute to GODV

[@Brettlaken]

29:52 That Deft ult was bs because he was accidentally hovering over j4 icon on the bottom right. Riot REALLY needs to remove that sht.

[@SpineBreakerZ]

I thought I'd have to sleep after watching the last day of draws. Thank you Pedro I've never doubted you.

[@sithlord1613]

Damm this vid came out fast, the game barely ended

[@K1ngslayer2607]

The editor on godspeed with the edits

[@lolrinz]

That was the best team fight on world for now

[@sayoriiix]

Here after KT was drawn against JDG. It was a good run, bois.

[@evilkingster]

who knows KT maybe pull it off

[@JUNGLEsausage]

Meanwhile NRG gets three western teams, and Weibo twice.

[@sayoriiix]

@@evilkingster I'm honestly so done with the hopium (hyping up KT all year). If they get the massive upset, I'll be so glad, but I'm not gonna get e****** hahaha

[@sayoriiix]

@@JUNGLEsausage fr. Lucky draws all the way. As much as our rat hypes up WBG, we know you'd be glad to face them instead of any other LPL or LCK teams haha

[@JUNGLEsausage]

​@@sayoriiix I had hopes, but this will be another year of hurt for KT; JDG looks fantastic.

[@powerequal]

the anti spoiler plant is brilliant. well done brother.

[@viker9547]

Imagine kellin didnt grief the g2 game, unlucky,hope they come back stronger next year

[@asdqwe6470]

I find it more fun to know the match outcome before watching Caedrel. 😂

[@otoshithekid2957]

Wow, that Aphelios...

[@Bobster536]

glad to see the good old blue baldy on the rift

[@Mojojojoboy]

Kt using bausen’s law game 1 holy

[@trevorsullivan594]

Waiting for g2 game

[@connerbradley5408]

Caedrel was full mental for this vid

[@waleedalmulla4208]

Deft ulted the air then q back in second game garon 😂

[@Sora-GrandCross]

28:37 that aphelios ult looks like it bugged? the way hes facing it shoulda went on bdd lol no?

[@janchraska4925]

Thanks for the plant!

[@MoyRama-pb9cd]

Raise editor salary for uploading this fast😅

[@PunCala]

Nah you have to be genuinely excited for KT for the curse to work.

[@MrSpud-qe6eo]

Brutal format. Lck knocking lck out pre-playoffs. Lck known for making playoffs 4 seed or not with groups, but swiss was about luck

[@coolbrotherf127]

I mean, if a team wants to win worlds, they have to be able to beat the best teams regardless of region at any point in the tournament. If DK or KT couldn't beat each other, they'd have no chance against GenG or JDG. A schedule is only hard if a team is worse than the other teams they are playing.

[@joaoteodororeis2051]

Not about luck. Best team is gonna win anyways. KT had the hardest draft and look at them boys going.

[@jimmydean1831]

Was about luck? DK literally only managed to beat EU 4th seed and Wildcard GAM. LCKs 4 seeds this year were meh, barring T1 shitting on BLG, every other relative seed of the LPL looked better than the LCK seed equivalent.

[@aipho-siast1762]

Deft trying to hit a ghost

[@Gremlinsbeabout]

Debt throw that first game sooooo fuckin hard its disgusting

[@migi1037]

what is the anti spoiler plant for?

[@alphagaming6712]

By looking at the length of the game you can tell who win the current match and how many games are there.

[@migi1037]

@@alphagaming6712 that’s genius! Thank you

[@kat-rau.]

Man, I don't know how he's rationalizing that he isn't the problem. Every team he roots for loses. He is the curse. 😂

[@oogaboogaa21]

T1 literally won 2-0 wym

[@kat-rau.]

@@oogaboogaa21 Ya and Weibo lost to G2, FNC and KT, and G2 lost to NRG. He's lost more than he's won.

[@pseudo3847]

@@oogaboogaa21🤷 he didn’t have the t1 jersey on

[@alex2005z]

​@@kat-rau.Losing more than you win is an expectation when you root for the underdogs

[@michael08269]

Don’t blame him when he isn’t the one that’s playing.

[@filldiff]

no one gonna point out deft mis-clicking ult at baron fight lul

[@turbanheadless]

feeling a bit sad for canyon, he played so well this series

[@404Kiwi]

Mmm he was invisible game 1 other than taking objectives letting KT out scale then lost smite fight. G2 he sprinted it but was saved by Deft and Canna miraculous tf. He was fine imo but no where near the level I expected from him.

[@Theo10147]

Cadreal jinx it everytime 😂

[@zavhyatta9795]

BRO WHAT I was watching this live 3-4 hours ago Editor aare you ok?

[@toanluuuc7655]

Ha, Not so much laughting now right Caedrel xDDD

[@NineTwoSix]

Is the audio source different that the one of the stream? Every time I watch the youtube Pedro's mic peaks for me but watching in twitch I don't have that problem

[@hmingthanavanchhawng9993]

DK Aiming vs KT Showmaker & Deft.

[@saibadam]

DK should get Viper and Rascal/Dudu next year

[@huskar2021]

DK should get Viper and promote Thanatos from Academy to main team.

[@user-ql4dg4bg9h]

Nah bruh they need Beryl. Without any coordination in teamfights, this team is lost. I'm not sure if they can acquire Beryl b/c of the salary cap. Prob have to drop canyon and replace with lucid. Roster for next year should be: thanatos, lucid, sm, rahel, beryl (sub: Bible). I think there was an exception to salary cap for players if they stay on the team for 5 years.

[@edgybravo4287]

Where the g2 react at? 😂

[@PcWitness]

Is it wrong to think that NRG only make it to quarterfinals because they avoided the LCK/LPL teams? They went 3-1. 3 wins on NA/EU and 1 loss to WBG

[@Zazume_]

Showmaker was let down by his team so much this tournament.

[@danielliang9266]

I think canyon was let down so much more. Those J4 games were pixel perfect.

[@Zazume_]

@@danielliang9266 Canyon was very strong this series, but I think in this tournament, Showmaker was the strongest and most conistent player in the roster.

[@helloneighbour2408]

he literally cose that last game the fuck you mean

[@bachelorsensei9437]

5:16 That has to be a bad omen. Edit : It was.

[@greyscale1487]

how tf is 380 farm at 30 minutes even possible, bro has 8 billion cs per min

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

they just give away waves it's really not that insane in a pro game when it is so slow...

[@404Kiwi]

Deft and Showmakers builds were awful g2. Deft has ie and bloodthirster instead of GA and shieldbow with Showmaker having Landry's they win thst fight. Showmaker was whiffing way more charms and his Qs weren't hitting multiple people. At least with liandry he procs it easy with w and r. I despise this vegan ahri build.

[@davidm5646]

What a disappointing series for KT. Why in the hell are they forcing Deft on Aphelios, man. Just leave ADC bans open and target ban bdd instead or something. The ADC matchup is not favored for DK, Aiming has been stomping them whole season. Should've just put him on Ezreal and played for top/mid.

[@M1ch43l33]

Playing for Canna xdd

[@mateoforni8503]

i love t1 and dw, fucking deft wins the b05 in the finals vs t1 and then comes to dw to grief them from the inside, historically he might be lck 2nd best player but he is so shit in recent years my god, t1 deserved that final but kingen gaped zeus in all the games

[@skaels]

24:47 does anyone else hear that popping noise? I swear my headphones are broken

[@DNLYUSEmeBIADE]

They're broken

[@cringeginge7663]

Sorry m8

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

I hear it too it's probably the mike lol

[@skaels]

@@itsgonnabeokay9341 thank you. Do you happen to have nice headphones? Never had this before getting HD650s

[@mattyboi1562]

give the editor head

[@gnaix9623]

no flame but isnt dk bot lane inting this worlds, from alistar to aphelios kekw

[@namfingerstyle8403]

Fraud Deft got exposed. 😂

[@skw333831]

The amount of ads on this video is disgusting

[@rexarsenio9447]

Get an adblocker

[@coffeeenthusiast5982]

the last big fight this series felt like match fixing the way aphelios was playing 😂

[@tidus7081]

Deft is bad imo. He doesn't take risks and just stands very far behind

[@HopefulNihilist]

KT is gonna get ROLLED by JDG.

[@goncalooliveira2675]

Deft played really well. Good ults and everything.

[@coolbrotherf127]

I just hope he doesn't want any of my favorite teams to win because he always picks the losers to win every match lol

[@tommyisfat2]

Gale force is such a grief purchase. You do so much less damage of you don’t go IE. DK wins game 2 if Deft goes IE

[@hyunjaycho9004]

In pro play, every Aphelios is building Galeforce, man. When everyone is cracked and can land CC on you super reliably, GF is the only way you live half the time. You can’t deal damage if you’re dead. There is no “just position better bozo” in pro play.

[@VR_win]

Smite diff😂

[@oskarkazmierczak5533]

One thing I completly agree with Caedrel, if game is determined by 1 fight it means game is in bad state. I do understand possibility to comeback but losing for 30 mins just to win 1 fight and win the game? Nah, that's too much.

[@vqs2920]

No one can play aphelios not even pro players

[@deftabyss280]

I find it funny he trashed KT that whole series and they still ended up winning. DK did grief a lot of fights tho. Feels bad for Showmaker and Deft tho

[@dumbassdude8372]

Deft did nothing that series. He shouldve retired but he randomly won so yeah 5 years more of deft again

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

I LOVE how KT won the first game. They played so fucking smart, drafting scaling and ACTUALLY SCALING INSTEAD OF TAKING EVERY EARLY GAME FIGHT!!!! EU ARE YOU WATCHING??? FUCKING LEARN TO USE YOUR BRAINS. I’m fucking disgusting by how many teams draft scaling and then they’re like “wait it’s 5 minutes? holy fuck, dragon! FIGHT!!!”.

[@felixschneider1398]

unlucky

[@denisjovel543]

ADD twitch chat to the videos?

[@wisard9362]

"has hextech soul ever lost in pro play?"

[@dani666crumbzz8]

Pedro , please don't cheer for jdg or geng

[@user-ew1ll8zn2u]

deft on aphelios the most useless have ever seen.

[@darthunleashed]

Deft 😢

[@TigeruSpear]

I love deft but game 2 baron was disgusting

[@alfdlgnaat]

dude was disgusting all worlds tbh@@TigeruSpear

[@EOMMunaware]

He sucks right now tbh

[@alphagaming6712]

​@@TigeruSpear9:28 he was also hitting baron instead of fighting.

[@alphagaming6712]

​@@TigeruSpearat 9:28 he was also hitting baron instead of fighting.

[@migolmigol4874]

Dplus didn't deserve a spot after their really poor performance both in the seasons and in the swiss stage. Thru game can you see who deserves what more

[@XxDeAtHHazExX87]

Blame Hle for choking against Dk in the regionals

[@joekerr9892]

Canna so weak, he always underform or rather just normal, guy doesnt make good plays.

[@saibadam]

T1- Zeus Canyon Faker Viper Keria

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

bro thinks Viper is better than guma

[@trh3xa174]

Viper is good but why would they get rid of Guma when his synergy with Keria is top notch. Oner is also contracted till 2024 so unless T1 does some crazy stuff Oner is staying.

[@Trollthem]

I knew that KT would win, DK are not good enough anymore top and botlane was a huge scam

[@Madzhkar]

Expected. Fraud Deft only managed to win last year because he got carried by Kingen Aatrox.

[@greenhat7618]

. I’m so sad for Showmaker man, and also KT is so boring to watch they are like the old GENG. How did they even throw that first game man catDespair

[@DoubterManiac]

When I saw Canna moving to DK it was already a bad omen after seeing his performance in NS and T1, not sure why they decided to draft him. Kellin was bad from the start, and was drafted as a set with Deokdumb before... so why wasn't he kicked when Ddumb left? They could have at least tried to pirate Beryl into the roster but kept the incompetent support instead haha. Good run from DK, even when it felt like 3 soldiers dragging 2 dead bodies

[@Zhangjiajie425]

Deokdam wasnt even that bad lmao? Worlds he was fine apart from those lucian games vs GenG (honestly moreso on the coaches for letting yuumi through to the bets yuumi team in the world lmao). His spring was honestly good, was probably the best player during spring and was legit solo carrying alot of games when showmaker and canyon had their huge slump. This series wasnt even on Canna or Kellin. They tbh both played fine this series, was moreso on drafting. Also Deft just doesnt suit these hypercarry ADs anymore.

[@Fiakur]

that series was not kellins or cannas fault, showmaker and deft either did nothing in teamfights or inted them, canna and kellin actually played rly well. not sure if u even watched the series

[@kismyers5207]

canna and kellin played their best this series but hard inted their previous 2 loses and forced the team into this position. Dk’s problem was top would never win and kellin couldn’t find engage angles and deft not being able to play hyper carry adcs like the other lck/lpl adcs. drafting was a huge issue too.

[@kismyers5207]

@@Zhangjiajie425 deokdam got gapped so hard in quarters against geng stopping potentially one of the best reverse sweeps ever

[@Zhangjiajie425]

@@kismyers5207 his aphelios games were completely fine lmao.

[@dennisdexter5602]

Deft to me is a fraud champion along with Pyosik. I don't doubt they have skill but the only reason they won last year was because Aatrox is a broken champion with no proper counters.

[@derprinzz2973]

Fun Fact: None Former T1 roster lift Thropy after leaving T1 (Effort, Canna, Cuzz, Berserker, Clozer, etc)

[@2xYuW]

Berserker did win. 2 splits in LCS.

[@danielbose9139]

Wait but Peanut won quite a lot with GenG

[@VegetaPixel]

Even if you're talking about Worlds trophies, Scout won in 2021. So idk where you got this comment from tbh.

[@2xYuW]

I'd pardon these other comments because technically he said T1, not SKT, but still.

[@scifimisc9191]

Im realising now why Caedrel being such a staunch KT hater is more annoying than normal. 99% of english language League streamers are fucking dogshit. Almost every single one is salty and or a complete hater about multiple teams, or entire regions, or any team that isnt the one specific one they like, or any team that isnt from their region. My favourite isnt winning? Time to pay zero attention to the match, or to trash talk the players winning, or trash talk other teams/players. The Caedrel KT hate is so annoying because aside from the memes and fun with Weibo and some ribbing about NA vs EU, Caedrel ISNT like that. Itd be mean and disingenuous to say oh its because Caedrel is clearly such a better person. No I dont think that its, I think its the difference between coming up from purely streaming and having to build a personality and audience around that VS coming up from playing and broadcast, where youre forced to have a more neutral attitude and give more respect and treat things more fairly.

[@ktkt-hd4uu]

Sometimes even this dude has been hater of t1/faker. I dont like him so much but for me al least is more enyojable than iwilldominate/yamatocanon.

[@Auronffx777]

Not loving the "fan boying" over a certain team, more team fight and champ analysis please.

[@Apdoxd]

WAT R DOINK GRANDPA DEFT