Shugden issue # 04

སྙིང་རྗེ་ཆེན་པོའི་སྟོབས་ཀྱིས་འཚེ་མེད་ལམ། །རྒྱ་ཆེར་སྤེལ་ལས་ཞི་བདེའི་གཟེངས་རྟགས་ཕུལ། །
འཛམ་གླིང་ཀུན་གྱི་བཀུར་ཞིང་དུས་འཁོར་དངོས། །བསྟན་འཛིན་རྒྱ་མཚོའི་ནོར་བུར་གསོལ་བ་འདེབས། །

[@lhamodolma7598]

དགེ་ལགས་་ཐུགས་རྗེ་ཆེ་ཞུ་་་་་🙏🙏🙏👍🤚😊

[@456inthemix]

Long Live H.H. Dalai Lama !

[@tseringdolma1392]

Long live his hollies dalai lama 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@JOHN-pk8zc]

thank you thupten la i gain lots. published on dec 2014; but i never seen. how ever you are the man i like most in this world. and i love His Holiness The Dalai Lama. .

[@tseringsonam7173]

I think our religious department should help this guy and support his initiatives

[@tamdintsepel1]

Thank you cho thupten la!!!! LONG LIVE HIS HOLINESS DALAI LAMA 🙏🙏

[@pemayangdenbhutia6115]

Long live his holiness the dalai lama

[@SoneGyane]

Thupten La, thank you for the Truth about Shugden.

[@dekeylife8471]

All real tibetan are with you . Keep it up . Thank you so much

[@wtso01]

Thupten thokmeyla, We Really appreciate your effort and let us aware very fact of this Dholgyal controversy.

[@geraldstarr9950]

Lost my only friends to the unscrupulous NKT (IKBU/CPC) and their brainwashing. Wish people in the west were more aware of this Dolgyal issue and the communist hand involved. The denigration of the wonderful Tibetan people and His Holiness the Dalai Lama is heartbreaking yet Tibet shall rise again, my blessings and prayers are with all of you.

[@pemayangdenbhutia6115]

Long live his holiness

[@tseringdolma1392]

Proud of you cho la

[@sangpo25]

thank you thokmey la for the explanation. long live H.H.Dalai Lama.

[@bylakopbhu4852]

Hello .... i loved the way you have explained all these things .... it would also be good if you make sub - titles cos foreigners who r watching will also understand that they were being brainwashed .... just an opinion which I thought would be helpful .... long live his holiness the dalai lama ....

[@ThuptenThokmey]

STATEMENT CONCERNING THE CULT OF DOGYAL/SHUGDEN June 9, 2014 12:39 pm We the undersigned Buddhist centers wish to express our full confidence in and respect for His Holiness the Dalai Lama and our complete agreement with regard to the dangerous nature of the practice of the Dogyal/Shugden cult. Since 1978 His Holiness the Dalai Lama, in his capacity as spiritual leader, has repeatedly stated publicly the extent to which the practice of the spirit called Dogyal/Shugden has degenerated, to the point of becoming a real cult, with strong sectarian features. In the past, this spirit was often invoked both as a Dharma protector as well as for more mundane purposes, but there have always been contradictory points of view about its nature and function. Thus, even though the Dalai Lama himself engaged in this spiritual practice until the age of forty, in 1975, after extensive research, he decided not only to cease this practice, but also to speak out publicly about the historical, social and cultural issues associated with this practice. In short, the harmfulness of Dogyal/Shugden can be summed up as follows: In spite of what his followers affirm, Dogyal/Shugden is not an enlightened protector, but a being arisen as an effect of distorted prayers and invocations. His nature is that of a devilish harmful spirit. His effect is that of destroying the Buddhadharma and harmony among practitioners. The problems deriving from this practice can be summed up in three essential points: There is the danger that Tibetan Buddhism could degenerate into a kind of spirit cult, as the practice of Dogyal/Shugden brings its followers to consider this spirit as more important than Buddha himself. There is the actual possibility that this practice could be an obstacle toward the creation of a true non-sectarian culture, in total contrast with one of the objectives that His Holiness is mostly concerned with, namely, the fostering of true harmony amongst all religions. Finally, there are problems connected to the preservation of Tibetan culture, which have existed since the time of the Fifth Dalai Lama (seventeenth century). For these reasons, the Dharma practitioners belonging to the undersigned centers are constantly engaged in informing the public about the truth regarding this ancient issue, supported - as mentioned - by broad and carefully examined research. Out of great compassion, feeling strongly his responsibility as a religious leader - namely, as one who should indicate the correct spiritual path to be followed - His Holiness advises against the practice of this cult. He does this not for personal profit, but because the danger has been clearly shown. Therefore, we the undersigned centers dissociate ourselves from and firmly condemn any protests against His Holiness the Dalai Lama carried out by organizations devoted to the Dogyal/Shugden cult, which organizations are carrying out an exploitative and denigrating campaign against Him, spreading accusations totally lacking any foundation: 1) His Holiness is accused of banning this practice. This is untrue, as the Dalai Lama himself has repeatedly stated that this is a decision that lies with each individual, and must be taken after a thorough analysis of what He says and not by a mere acceptance of His words. As for the request of His Holiness not to attend his teachings or empowerments, transmissions, and instructions as well as not to receive religious vows from Him by those who follow Dogyal/Shugden, the reason is that this will endanger both teacher and students because of a tainted relationship. As a spiritual master, His Holiness has every right to allow or not to allow anyone to access His teachings. 2) His Holiness is accused of suppressing freedom of religion. This is untrue, as nobody has ever been banned from invoking this spirit privately, in temples and monasteries where this practice is followed. There have been instances wherein Dogyal/Shugden followers left their monasteries of origin. This happened as a result of a referendum carried out in accordance with the rules of the monastic tradition of Vinaya. These monks were free to keep their own shares of money and land, and have been completely free to practice Dogyal/Shugden on their own without any threat to their activities. In addition, if they don’t have religious freedom, then how is it that the practitioners of Dogyal/Shugden can travel freely to all parts of the world, raising this issue and trying to find new supporters from amongst those who are in the dark about the facts? 3) They maintain that the Dalai Lama is lying. Such criticism has no solid base, since holding a different point of view from that of the Dogyal/Shugden practitioners is not lying, but only exercising one’s right of opinion. 4) They accuse the Dalai Lama of being the only one to hold this point of view. This is absolutely untrue, as the first controversies about this matter date back to the seventeenth century. It is worth noting that the protests of some Shugden practitioners have degenerated to the point of criminal acts, such as the one perpetrated near Dharamsala in 1997, when two Shugden followers, currently wanted by Interpol, killed the Headmaster of the School of Dialectics at the time, together with two of his disciples. Moreover, it appears that these organizations have sided many times with the decisions by several Western governments not to meet with the Dalai Lama, because of the strong political and economic pressures exerted by the Chinese government (as recently happened in Norway), thus demonstrating that there are other interests at play beyond those aspects related to the religious tradition. We invite all those who are unaware of this issue to pay careful attention when choosing their spiritual path, on the basis of thorough analysis and research, and we strongly reaffirm our full support for His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the international activities he has carried out for more than fifty years all over the world, where his figure is recognized as one of the greatest advocates for world peace and harmony in our time. S.No Tibetan Buddhist Centres in Italy 1. Istituto Lama Tzong Khapa, Pomaia (Pi) 2. Ghe Pel Ling Istituto Studi Di Buddhismo Tibetano, Milano 3. Centro Milarepa Torino 4. Comunita’ Dzog-Chen, Arcidosso (Gr) 5. Fpmt Fondazione Per La Preservazione Della Tradizione Mahayana, Pomaia (Pi) 6. Centro Studi Kalachakra, Bordighera (Im) 7. Centro Dharma Visuddha, Verona 8. Centro Cenresig, Bologna 9. Centro Buddhista Muni Gyana, Palermo 10. Centro Tara Cittamani, Padova 11. Istituto Samantabhadra, Roma 12. Mandala Centro Studi Tibetani, Milano 13. Centro Studi Tibetani Sangye Cieling Sondrio 14. Monastero Mandala Samten Ling Biella 15. Centro Studi Tibetani Mandala Deua Ling, Merano (Bz) 16. Centro Terra Di Unificazione Ewam, Firenze 17. Centro Vajrapani, Bosentino (Tn) 18. Centro Dharna Karuna, Modena 19. Centro Lama Tzong Khapa, Zero Branco (Tv) 20. Centro Studi Tibetani Tenzin Cio Ling, Sondrio 21. Centro Gajang Giang Chub, Paladina (Bg) 22. Centro Buddhista Cenresig, Domodossola (Vb) 23. Centro Sakyamuni, Messina 24. Centro Di Meditazione Kushi Ling, Livorno

[@jamduk8648]

Thank you for the well explain.

[@charliedorje6921]

Good Job ! And I Salute You

[@tseringyangzom5817]

Thupten la thanks for about explained all shungden issue;

[@ThuptenThokmey]

Thanks for your support very appreciated! We all have to show them our strong unity and support HH Dalai Lama. Thanks!

[@jampathayey761]

thank to talk about this topic.and we ll wait ur new video n long live THOKMEY LA. WE ARE ALWAYS WITH U

[@lokhetsang8170]

Thanks for the clear information.

[@Tenzinzonga]

I like the points expressed blatantly in this issue, but it would be more helpful and acceptable if expressed and conveyed in polite and eloquent manner, which is the purpose of this conversation. Please try to make these conversation more constructive and appreciable. Thank you for your good motivation and effort.

[@tenze975]

Thank you Thupten la. Thupten Thokmey Rocks...

[@ThuptenThokmey]

"དོལ་རྒྱལ་གྱི་གནས་ཚུལ་འདི་ཕར་ཕྱོགས་ནས་རྒྱ་ནག་གུང་ཁྲན་ཏང་གིས་རྒྱབ་སྐྱོར་བྱེད་ཡུལ་ཞིག་ཆགས་ཏེ་ཆེད་མངགས་ལས་འགུལ་སྤེལ་གྱི་ཡོད་པར་བརྟེན། ང་ཚོ་ཚུར་ཕྱོགས་ནས་དེ་ལུགས་ཀྱི་ཡིད་གཟབ་བྱེད་དགོས་པ་ཡིན། ཤེས་སོང་ངམ། དེའི་བྱུས་གཏོགས་༸རྒྱལ་བ་རིན་པོ་ཆེ་མི་གཅིག་ལ་འཁྲིས་པས་༸རྒྱལ་བ་རིན་པོ་ཆེ་ཤོད་དུ་བཅུག ང་ཚོ་ལ་བྱུས་གཏོགས་མེད་བསམས་ནས་བསྡད་ན་འགྲིག་གི་མ་རེད། ཤེས་སོང་ངམ། ང་རང་ལོ་ ༧༦ ལ་སླེབས་སོང་། ངའི་ཚེ་ལྷག་གི་མི་ཚེ་སྐྱིད་པོའི་ངང་བསྐྱལ་རྒྱུ་ཡིན། སྡུག་ན་ཁྱེད་རང་ཚོ་སྡུག་གི་རེད། ང་ཤི་རྗེས་ཟང་ཟིང་མང་པོ་བྱུང་ན་ང་ལ་གྱོང་རག་རྒྱུ་གང་ཡང་མེད། ཤེས་སོང་ངམ།"

[@TheGyutoFoundationIncRichmond]

Thank you Thupten la

[@ThuptenThokmey]

[@ciren85]

Thank for your very good explain

[@wangchendorjee4619]

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[@shonkanupdawa9374]

thank you thokmey la for the explanation. long live H.H.Dalai Lama...

[@tseringtashi958]

Thank you Thupten la