Shunt Modding the Wired eBike

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CitizenCycle

CitizenCycle

2 ай бұрын

In this video, I shunt mod the KT contoller of the Wired Freedom to give it more power and test the results on a hill climb.
Front motor kits can be found at www.citizenperformance.com/
Wired Freedom can be found at wiredebikes.com/citizen925 (this is an affiliate link)
I hope you enjoyed this easy ebike power upgrade video!
~Citizen
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@Altema22
@Altema22 2 ай бұрын
For those curious, the shunt mod takes two resistive connections that are meant to reduce strain on the controller components, and bridges them together to increase amperage. It's a common mod and usually safe, and the KT controllers are fine with it most of the time because their output transistors use the controller housing as a heatsink. The power increase is about 200 to 300 watts, but does not show on the display because the controller calibration does not account for the change 😉 The battery discharge current is controlled by the BMS (battery management system), and will limit how much power the controller can get. The exception of this is the BMS is mismatched, defective, or uses direct output which is unmanaged. If the battery or controller show signs of overheating, you can "undo" this mod using the soldering iron and solder wick, then bending the wires back apart if they are touching. Have fun!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, you are a wealth of knowledge! Always insightful comments 👍
@notsoanonymous2458
@notsoanonymous2458 2 ай бұрын
"The power increase is about 200 to 300 watts..." Is that relative to this bike, its battery voltage and controller amps or just in general? If I did this to my Emove Roadrunner, which is 48v with a front controller of 15 amps and rear controller of 20 amps would I still see 200-300 watts per controller? That would make a huge difference vs the Wired Freedom.
@Werk4Cash
@Werk4Cash 2 күн бұрын
What if a controller only has one bar instead of two?? My kugoo m4 controller only has one bar and appears to be missing the second bar from factory
@r.vargas5410
@r.vargas5410 21 сағат бұрын
​@@Werk4Cashyou can still do it , I wrapped copper wire around mine and then soldered it , sounds like you have a 22 amp controller,I recently upgraded my controller to a 30 amp ,but haven't done the shunt mod , I feel it doesn't need it , it has plenty of power as it is .
@Werk4Cash
@Werk4Cash 6 сағат бұрын
@@r.vargas5410 ahh gotcha!! I tried just putting some solder by itself on the single bar and it appeared a lot faster but forgot to unplug the battery before putting the controller back in its housing and it caused massive sparks and shorted out. Tried unplugging the battery and reconnecting it and the damn battery wires sparked so much they basically fused together and crumpled apart totally messed up my kugoo m4 pro :(
@CallMeHarris
@CallMeHarris 2 ай бұрын
WooHoo! Did this and it is absolutely quicker!! This is an A+ mod! Thank you for sharing
@jasonkrantz8946
@jasonkrantz8946 2 ай бұрын
Did it get hot from shunt mod
@user-xk3bu6rw7z
@user-xk3bu6rw7z 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos! Gained 2mph and a bit more torque 😉
@MarkSmith-js2pu
@MarkSmith-js2pu 2 ай бұрын
That was some thrilling footage!
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 23 сағат бұрын
The placebo effect is strong on this one.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved it!!
@papablueshirt
@papablueshirt 2 ай бұрын
We always want a little more don't we? 😜
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Always!
@davidgraham2673
@davidgraham2673 Ай бұрын
YES
@johnhecht5565
@johnhecht5565 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video. Shunt mods, dual motors, dual batteries. How fun is all that? Can’t wait for your next project.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what next project will be...
@user-qs8lj7ql3h
@user-qs8lj7ql3h 2 ай бұрын
My own experience on my shubt modded 2024 Wired Bike: seemed to pickup a few watts in lower pedal assist. For instance Pedal assist 1 used to be about 230 watts now its 250. I had a hard time riding under 18 mph in pedal assist 1 now. Bike just seemed to have a bit more juice on the same setting. Off the line power a little more snappy, the top end I hit 41.6 peddling with full throttle on flat with no wind so maybe 1 mph gain or so on the top end. Based on this a worthy mod and its probably not going to affect any reliabilty
@chuckas57
@chuckas57 2 ай бұрын
Another Great Video
@VMH721
@VMH721 2 ай бұрын
Unbelievable, ORDERING TODAY
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@boblaturner7427
@boblaturner7427 2 ай бұрын
Hi Citizen, I really like your videos... This first I've heard about something like this, what is it actually changing in the controller? Also, can this shunt mod be done to controllers in other bikes? Thanks.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Yes can be done to other bikes with KT controllers, I may do to my grizzly controllers too, I think they are KT. If you read Altema22 comment he explains better than me 😁
@kdscrapping4452
@kdscrapping4452 2 ай бұрын
Have you seen the UBCO 2x2 ?? Any thoughts ??
@andrewford9974
@andrewford9974 2 ай бұрын
Fun. Until the bike stops working because the mosfets in the controller overheat and melt
@LeeAyzahn
@LeeAyzahn 2 ай бұрын
the hand shake with the pedal 🤣
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Haha, you caught that 😃
@CONSCIOUS_TALK_ENT.
@CONSCIOUS_TALK_ENT. 2 ай бұрын
That may make the battery terminal overheat if you feed it more power. My battery started melting the inside terminal and I didn't even do a shunt mod.
@avonstellar4475
@avonstellar4475 2 ай бұрын
Can you review the new ecells five star bike? I heard it's on par with the wired freedom
@aFoundingYouTuber
@aFoundingYouTuber 2 ай бұрын
In my best Colonel Kurtz voice (Apocalypse Now): "the power . . . the power . . . the power"
@mrodriguezangel1
@mrodriguezangel1 2 ай бұрын
Jesus lol I woke up to your comment def doing this today and thinking of that line or yell it riding in the city here😂
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 2 ай бұрын
Great job! What's up with the bike laying down at your starting line...?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Not idea, it's been there for like 3 days.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 2 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 ...that means you live in a nice, crime free area. :) I am going to try the shunt mod on my GOAT bike....You made it look easy. Do you think "liquid solder" would work?
@anio6865
@anio6865 2 ай бұрын
So, if I use rosin core wire, I do not need to apply flux beforehand, correct ? And I do not need to heat up the shunt correct ?
@petemiddleton64
@petemiddleton64 2 ай бұрын
Wonder if good fan will work to cool it
@duanehundley
@duanehundley 2 ай бұрын
If you change the controller can you run a 72V battery for your front motor kit? More Volts=more MPH
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
I would not, it's a 52v motor so 72v is probably too much juice
@Ebikepowelevel5
@Ebikepowelevel5 2 ай бұрын
I know this is off the subject but I got a e mail about a bigger battery with your kit and I was curious as to how much bigger the 20 amp hour was over the 15 amp I wanted to make sure it will fit in the bag with your controller
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
20ah is 180mm x 170mm x 75mm and 10lbs, the 15ah is 180mmx 150mm x 75mm and 7.5lbs.
@leviboyton1707
@leviboyton1707 Ай бұрын
Would this work I’m running 52v battery 23a and a 48v controller
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 2 ай бұрын
For the algorithm and THANK YOU
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Haha thank you!!
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 2 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 I think you need to make a video setting the passcode.
@blazblue831
@blazblue831 2 ай бұрын
Can I install a dobble crown fork from e-cells five star e-bike to my wired freedom 2024?
@keithpegg7825
@keithpegg7825 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, the mod was fun and would like to read more. how about a higher output controller? I do know that CA Cycle Analyst have done some testing with e-bikes power, my first build 9 years ago was with CA and a 1000 watt drive had a lot of fun and 16,000 miles. sold it last year. Have a new bike now lower watts but just as fun. 75 years old and enjoying life.
@jwillwork3683
@jwillwork3683 2 ай бұрын
Can you do this with aventon Aventure ?
@snapshotprophotobooth1864
@snapshotprophotobooth1864 2 ай бұрын
I ordered the motor kit about 1 1/2 weeks ago whats your turn around for orders. also can this shunt mod can be undone if we don't like. just desolder?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Kits are still being manufactured, I anticipate shipping out to customers in May. Yes, You could undo the shunt by desoldering.
@user-qs8lj7ql3h
@user-qs8lj7ql3h 2 ай бұрын
Did you notice any wattage max difference on the screen that you could read vs stock?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
No, you will not see it reflected on the display watt meter.
@Goesriding
@Goesriding 2 ай бұрын
Good job. A lil chintsy on that solder tho lol
@rustymeyers1
@rustymeyers1 Ай бұрын
Can I do this on my rad rover plus?
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 24 күн бұрын
Great way to start a fire.
@SCIFIBRITHEVIDEOGUY
@SCIFIBRITHEVIDEOGUY 2 ай бұрын
Can I do this to my area 13 controller for rad rover 5 upgrade?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I did mine. That's what is on the rear of my Citizen bike.
@SCIFIBRITHEVIDEOGUY
@SCIFIBRITHEVIDEOGUY 2 ай бұрын
@CitizenCycle925 ok. I haven't upgraded the motor yet. Do you think it's OK with the 500w Motor?
@Busdathead
@Busdathead 2 ай бұрын
As always thanks for all your valuable input on everything especially "Wired" ! I don't know if you truly realize how influential your bike reviews and testing are to us who live in an ebike desert ! All because of your reviews I've bought my ebikes , first one was a Hiiwiway cruiser (I loved) I owned it until I realized that it accelerated way too slow to run with traffic . Here in Indiana cars will just run you over or off the road while they curse at you(f____ing idiots). I was really excited with your review of the wired freedom and it's top speed so I bought the late 2023 model and really wish I would have waited a few months for the 2024 model because I can't take advantage of the mid suspension , it will rub against my controller box so I have to extend it all the way out to avoid this . I have plans on buying the new model that way I will have spare parts and battery if needed . You are truly "De Man" 🏆on all things ebike related , keep up the fantastic work !
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you are enjoying my channel! FYI If you buy a new wired the batteries are not interchangeable. They change the connection port.
@TurntDreeze
@TurntDreeze 17 күн бұрын
Can you purchase the screen for any bike?
@maxhughes5687
@maxhughes5687 18 күн бұрын
Great. Get ebikes outlawed in my home town.
@ollieox9181
@ollieox9181 14 күн бұрын
You really should add the caveat (or, maybe you did but I missed it) that modifying a bike this way might void your warranty. Also, a lot of states/provinces have speed limits on ebikes in public areas. So, anybody looking to do this modification, be aware.
@pensbyrob
@pensbyrob 2 ай бұрын
How much is your front hub motor for the Aventon adventure 2?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
$899 for complete kit (motor,controller,wiring harness, display, throttle, battery, charger )
@pensbyrob
@pensbyrob 2 ай бұрын
Thanks I will be in touch in the near future.
@bobbybecker80
@bobbybecker80 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised the controller is encased in a plastic box as that inhibits cooling (IMO).
@mikey3239
@mikey3239 2 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same thing i drilled several holes in my box dont know if it will work
@indogyrsimdead
@indogyrsimdead 2 ай бұрын
Just paint the controller black and Zip tie it to the frame
@ringss12
@ringss12 2 ай бұрын
Will this work on an August 2023 cruiser also?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@ringss12
@ringss12 2 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 thank you
@daleloch1089
@daleloch1089 2 ай бұрын
Poor 5 Star and their potted controller! No Shunt Mods for You!
@johns5504
@johns5504 2 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what I was thinking
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 2 ай бұрын
Yes, can easily be done on the 5 Star however it voids the warranty. It increases the power the controller provides to the motors and also causes a lot of heat because the controller is not designed to handle that much power
@tylermckie5322
@tylermckie5322 23 күн бұрын
How much is a new controller if you break it??
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 18 күн бұрын
$139
@Ekamwitu
@Ekamwitu 16 күн бұрын
does this breack the bike or over rule any warrantys?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely voids the warranty
@Ekamwitu
@Ekamwitu 14 күн бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 oh then ill just do it after the warranty ends
@SciD1
@SciD1 2 ай бұрын
I have no idea what you did in that controller. But didn't look like worth the risk of messing up the controller.
@johns5504
@johns5504 2 ай бұрын
My bet is this is next to impossible in a fully insulated controller ?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Correct, can't really do this to lishi controllers.
@blueCollarGuy
@blueCollarGuy 2 ай бұрын
Your next video should be a dual motor shunt mod. Need to see that video. Show a temperature reading as well.
@DrRevKing
@DrRevKing 2 ай бұрын
Good demonstrative video, Brian. But me and my 2024 Wired Freedom's warranty are going to have an excellent long-term and lasting relationship without it. 😂 Plus, your front wheel ROCKET kit is all this Flash Gordon-era fan needs to "CONTROLLABLY" blast off to exfil or infil True Believers out of Harms Way for what God may allow. Thank you ! 😊
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Yes this definitely voids the warranty, glad you are excited for the kit, can't wait to get them out!!!
@DrRevKing
@DrRevKing 2 ай бұрын
👍
@Mike6string
@Mike6string 2 ай бұрын
The five star from e cells just took 75% of wired’s business 🤣
@shawnchambers3416
@shawnchambers3416 2 ай бұрын
WARRANTY = GONE
@jpmyles1560
@jpmyles1560 2 ай бұрын
I want to make my Xclass 52volt faster
@mikey3239
@mikey3239 2 ай бұрын
dont think this is good for the controller long term ,
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 ай бұрын
Definitely voids warranty, I've done it to other controllers and they have been fine but it's running more power than designed for.
@indogyrsimdead
@indogyrsimdead 2 ай бұрын
The only problem I see in doing this Is how does it affect the range? more power usually means less range
@markcozzie
@markcozzie 12 күн бұрын
Not possible carrera ebike 100%
@djdocbear5603
@djdocbear5603 9 күн бұрын
So far my is going slower
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 23 сағат бұрын
Needs a soldering lesson. The idea is to heat the wires, that are going to have solder pushed into the heated wires, so it flows into the wires. This is so cringe.😂 His is literally dripping melted solder onto room temp. wires, then a big blob, lands on the PCB
@ghoul114
@ghoul114 2 ай бұрын
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