🚘 Is MG4 WORTH IT? Owners Reveal Their 9 Gripes!

[@siasek]

💥If you're an MG4 owner, which of these 9 issues resonates with you the most? And if you're considering the MG4, does any of this make you rethink your decision?

[@alanvicentini7712]

Reduction gearbox oil leaks - Fixed 10 days after Inaccurate AC temp reading - non progblem: set temp +5degrees Automatic door locking always on - ok for me Faulty light sensor - Printed new cover, now is perfect No battery preheating available while plugged in and fully charged - This is wrong, it depends on your wallbox/charger. Mine works Navigation doesn't show en-route chargers - Mine is Standard version Infotainment screen sometimes freezes - Only wait a bit more and it will start Radio always turns on - Ok for me LKA always on - Three click at start to disable is not annoyng. The Leaf needs every time to accept disclaimer

[@siasek]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience, sounds like you're an early adopter and small annoying things aren't such a problem for you. 🙂 Good call on printing out the new light sensor cover btw, that's smart! What I find unfortunate is that while you may not have some of these problems, other owners of the same model MG4 do and they don't have as good a service experience as you. Seems like MG could also work on their consistency a bit. Everything seems to have come together nicely in your case, which is great and I'm glad you're enjoying the car. Hopefully MG4 will work on updates and especially on keeping customers informed!

[@RandomNoob]

@@siasek I don't have a MG4 yet picking up the trophy today or tomorrow but believe the LKA is same as the ZS where no you cant turn it off but you can all but disable it, just set it to warn instead if intervene and the warning to vibrate with no volume, all you get then is a very slight vibration of the wheel and thats it.

[@siasek]

The LKA can be turned off in the MG4, but the problem is that the car doesn't remember your settings between rides and you have to redo it every time you get back into the car. Apparently it takes like 4 steps to do it so it's an inconvenience to have to do it every time you get back in the car and if you forget, it's not very safe to do while driving. I've been hearing mixed reviews on the LKA, but there seems to be a consensus that it's really awful if you drive on rural roads, not sooo bad in the city. Either way, I do hope MG comes up with an update to turn it off easier or at least remember the driver settings between drives. I hope you enjoy your new ride! Even with these small issues, I think the MG4 it's going to be a really fun drive 😊

[@fraenqy]

In fact, I also have the problem with the air conditioning system and therefore I have a cold, and that should not be. Thanks for the tip with the 5 degrees higher, even if it's already too late. That should really be possible to fix.

[@Legate_Lanius]

Great video! Almost no reviewer talks about these things and the only way to get this info is by spending hours on forums. But you recapped everything in a convenient 10 min video. Great job!

[@siasek]

Thank you very much, it was a lot of work, but I'm happy it helps people. It's just a pity that there is no detailed information about glitches, solutions and software versions from MG, it would prevent so much speculation and misunderstanding. I don't understand that the technical department doesn't have people to post such information, it would help so much to boost trust in the brand!

[@jonathanallen985]

Agree with most of the gripes, but would like to add a few more: 1) The Air Conditioning setting icons are TOO small. 2) My car always starts with internal air circulation - I have to reset it every trip. 3) The 360 camera system should work when you are parking - not just when you reverse, so if you are parking into a space forward in the supermarket it would be great if the sensors at the front made the camera come on! 4) LKA - is really dangerous, if I forget to switch it off I end up gripping the steering wheel anticipating it will try to steer the car off the road 5) The Air conditioning system menu flicks off when you are trying to change settings. Apart from those minor issues, love the car, already done 5300 miles in 7mths and usually go for a spin most evenings - it brings back the joy of driving

[@siasek]

Thank you for listing those out! I started compiling a list from the comments here to make a part 2 for this video so I'll add these. The 360 camera issue happens in my Citroen as well! And you're right, if they call it a 360° camera than it should cover more than just the rear 🙄 They could at least have a button to switch it on or something if it's not going to work automatically. I'm happy you're still enjoying your MG4 despite these shortcomings. It seems to be the consensus among most drivers. And I love that you said it brings back the joy of driving, that's really lovely. Can't say that much about my Citroen unfortunately 😄 To me it seems like the aggressive LKA is the biggest problem.. sounds kind of dangerous from what I've been reading. Other than that the others seem like one could get used to them, so while it'd still be better if MG just took care of them, I can see why most MG4 owners are still quite satisfied with the car overall.

[@stevews]

you have to turn off LKA, instead, pull the mg pilot stick towarding you twice to activate mg pilot, the lane keep function under mg pilot is much much better.

[@siasek]

that's a great tip!

[@comeinhandynow]

@@siasek So you don’t have an MG4 then and so why are you doing this video? The MG4 does have a button on the touch screen for the 360 camera. It IS 360 deg view and you can use it going forward / parking. LKA is not a problem for me. Suggest you try the latest car.

[@comeinhandynow]

Wrong car, no mg pilot stick@@stevews

[@johnburr2662]

Just got an MG4 the other day. For me the annoyance that I noticed straight away is that it doesn't remember the drive mode you previously used when you next start the car. Instead it always defaults to standard. Not a huge deal as there is a button on the steering wheel to change modes but just why?

[@siasek]

I'd also like to know! It's not typical with Chinese cars, which is interesting. But I believe MG will change that very soon

[@rgorazd]

My Megane E-tech does this all the time. So it's more a feature...

[@kennyh3923]

I have a MG4 Trophy and the biggest annoyance is the lane keep assist. I persevered with it for about a month but got fed up with it trying to put me in the ditch at the side of the road for no apparent reason. I now routinely switch it off each time I start the car, now it doesn't bother me.

[@siasek]

The LKA seems to be the biggest overall pain for most owners. It'd be nice if they make it easier to turn off in future updates. 🤞

[@steveburgess5440]

I noticed this on the test drive, ridiculously over aggressive, Toyota Yaris was just as bad. @@siasek

[@FallenAngel53]

@@steveburgess5440 As was the Kia niro but got used to it

[@siasek]

What if the overly aggressive LKA is a secret plan hatched by the petrol lobby and traditional car company bigwigs to make electromobility fans give up and go back to the 'good old days' of gas guzzlers? "Can't beat 'em with emissions, drive 'em off the road with LKA!" 😂 No but really, I hope they fix it soon and make it an actual SAFETY feature

[@FallenAngel53]

@@siasek it was hard at first on the Kia niro because I’d never had a LKA car before so what everyone’s experiencing with the MG4 can only be as bad as coming in as a newby to it. You can turn it off before every drive. You can turn it off with a flick of indicator. You can set sensors to low. All in all as long as you’re an ok driver it should bother you.

[@chrispenn715]

Had my MG 4 since December 2022 - never had an issue with oil leaks. Only fault was a faulty passenger door button - replaced without any issues by MG under warranty - very pleased with reliability overall.

[@siasek]

It's great to hear that you haven't had to deal with many hardware faults. Plus it sounds like your customer service experience is way better than average, that's wonderful. How do you feel about all these software "issues" - do they bother you a lot or have you gotten used to them?

[@chrispenn715]

@@siasek not greatly bothered by software issues. Biggest gripe is still lane keep assist - would be nice if you could switch it off permanently, but not the end of the world 😂. The radio inyerface is very poor too - would love to see MG implement the over the air updates. My last car was a RR Evoque. Was great to have OTA sotware updates, including wireless android auto and what three words amongst other things.... Land Rover also improved the lane keep software with an OTA update,

[@siasek]

The LKA really does seem to be the worst of it, one of my other viewers here dubbed Lane Kill Assist. Guess that tells me all I need to know. 😬 OTA updates would be so great. The MG4 was supposed to have them and yet... 😐

[@comeinhandynow]

I don’t have a problem with my LKA on MG4 xpower, just the expected level of assistance. If you are not used to LKA you might be disconcerted but just needs familiarity @@siasek

[@siasek]

what I find interesting is that I've gotten vastly different feedback from many drivers. I've heard a LOT who complain about it being aggressive and unpredictable, but then a few others say that it's really no big deal. Which makes me think that somehow it's simply not consistent across vehicles, which is weird and unfortunate, of course

[@EamonWalshe]

I got an MG4 3 days ago. And I'm already annoyed with the LKA feature. I turned it off after the drive home from the garage and discover this morning that it was back on because the MG nudged me closer to a another car in dense traffic.

[@siasek]

I'm sorry you are among those who have a non-functioning LKA 😕 Hopefully you can upgrade the software in the future and it will be OK! 🤞 What are your other impressions of the ride?

[@navMonster]

10. When the car alerts you for anything it lowers the volume on the radio but does not turn the volume back up after announcing the alert 11. The "automatic wipers" are not automatic 12. The infotainment takes too long to start up

[@siasek]

Thanks for adding more pieces to the puzzle of MG4 problems, there is still a lot to fix. I believe new software versions will finally solve it 🤞

[@Dave-FarFlyer]

The LKA has been really improved on the 2023 version! There is a huge difference compared to the old one. Of course, in the positive direction. Good work MG on that.

[@siasek]

Yes, the 2023 version is much better. Seems that it has improved in earlier models also with the latest update. 🙌

[@DiHandley]

So it’s 9 months later and I’m just about to by the MG4 Long Range with a 77kw battery. Having looked at everything on the market, they all seem to have issues! On the test drive there were no immediate problems so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I’ll let you know.

[@siasek]

Yeah you're right, they all do have issues at this point. Well, my VW e-Golf really didn't, that was such a perfect car, but first-gen, so quite a short range. And after that, VW just forgot how to make good EVs I guess. I think the MG4 is a great choice, and they are steadily improving issues via software updates, so it's getting better and better. Definitely let me know your experience once you've had a chance to drive it for a bit. Would love to hear from you!

[@johnstone4790]

We have had for eight months. We have the issues that you mention, but the only thing because this is a real problem is the lane assist. Not only is it a pain but it’s downright dangerous country lanes. This is definitely not a safety item is in total detriment to the car. Having said that we love it. Everything about the car is great value for money. I also have a top of the range BMW electric and I enjoy driving both hope that helps

[@siasek]

I was just reading today that there is a service bulletin active for it and you can book a warranty service for an update, maybe you can look into that! Would be great if they got it worked out

[@moragkerr9577]

Small correction. It's not the pre-heating of the BATTERY that's the problem when the car is connected but not charging, it's the pre-heating (or indeed pre-cooling) of the ACTUAL CAR. The MG4 has the facility to get the car's interior to the temperature you want it, if you send that information to it by the app ten minutes before you go. In heating mode, that will defrost an iced-up car that has been sitting in the snow all night. But if you want to do that the morning after you've had the car on charge, you have to get your kit on AND GO OUT INTO THE SNOW to unplug the car, before you can activate that feature. It's more than a slight inconvenience, it negates the entire point. You might as well just open the car and set the heater fan while you're there - you're already cold and wet. There are other gripes, I could give you enough for episode 2, but maybe tomorrow at this rate.

[@siasek]

Oh man, I was hoping it's just the battery pre-heating that doesn't work when plugged in... that's really a fail then! 😳 Thank you for letting me know! If you feel up to writing out the other issues, I'd love to hear them and make episode 2 😊

[@moragkerr9577]

@@siasek There is a rumour that there is a software update that fixes this. But when I took my car to the dealer and asked for this to be looked at (among other things) they didn't do anything, suggesting it was an issue between my car and the app, and since the app was bound to my phone (and I had my phone, not them) there wasn't anything they could do. Fail. But at least one person has reported a fix. I'll post the rest of the gripes later today.

[@Drackmord92]

​@@moragkerr9577 has the fix for this arrived yet? I'm about to get an MG4 myself and this would really put me off

[@moragkerr9577]

@@Drackmord92 Several people on the MG4 EV forum have said they have a fix, but I don't have any details. If it's a big issue for you, I think you should confront your dealer directly, explain that this is a problem these cars have, but that you have heard there may be a fix for it. Insist that he look into it and apply the fix before you get your car. For what it's worth, I think this will be fixed. We're going into colder weather in the northern hemisphere now, and there are a lot more of these cars in circulation than there were last winter. I would have thought a lot of people might be getting quite vocally unhappy about it. But take it up with your dealer. You have a lot of leverage before you buy, if you can convince him that you'll walk away if this isnt fixed.

[@keithbutler2437]

I've got a new (rear wiper) Trophy, had it for 3 weeks now. It has charged every time (3 times now) whilst still plugged in (and finished charging) without any issues.

[@jamesbishop6397]

Clocked up 5000km in my MG 4 essence 64. Mostly at 100kph. Battery is not providing range promises. The lane keeping assist tries to drive into oncoming traffic at times. It's worse on small country roads.

[@siasek]

Thank you for sharing your experience! The promised range is always just a "number" for marketing campaigns, the Real Range from Ev-database is the best match. Overall, are you happy with the MG4 in terms of price/performance ratio? It's basically the cheapest "reasonable" electric car 🙂

[@Goldfinch241]

8/9 of these issues are not a problem to me or I have not had the issue. The only one that is is the Lane Keep Assist which I turn off every time. I did test drive two other brands of EV before I chose the MG and they have the same problem in that you have to switch LKA off manually each time you start the car. I have the MG4 long range and am fairly sure I can just press the unlock button in the front on the driver’s door once the car has got going so the doors are unlocked, or am I wrong that they still only unlock from inside?

[@siasek]

The problem is that all these little small things really add up. Seems like you have to go through a checklist before driving to really be happy. Turn off LKA, unlock doors (if having them locked bothers you), regen level set, drive mode set... a bit annoying isn't it? The car should be able to remember all those settings and behave the way the driver wants it to. It's such a simple software adjustment, I imagine it must really irk for example programmers, who know these issues could be fixed in a matter of seconds 😄

[@Goldfinch241]

@@siasek it would be good if the car remembers, but it still only takes a few seconds to click on them, so it doesn’t bother me at all ( as far as I know, it does remember the regen level).

[@siasek]

Right, that's great that you're satisfied. From what I gather, most people are still happy with their MG4 but would just PREFER if it didn't have all these small issues. And unfortunately some people have more of them than others and then it adds up. Some users write that they have a Before Start checklist for their MG4! 😬😄 If yours remembers the regen level than that's also great. Some users report that theirs always defaults to 3 and they have to customize it every time they get into the car. 🤷

[@muchsake]

@@siasek It is because the NCAP regulations insist that you can't turn off LKA permanently and the easiest way to enforce that is for the car to revert to default settings every time you start it.

[@ashb8572]

I got my MG4 Long Range SE in the UK about 9 months after launch, and it's not got some of the issues mentioned in the video. I guess the first batches may have been affected by oil leaks, etc. My wife and I have owned EVs for 8 years now, starting with the 24kwh Leaf. I test drove the ID3, Soul EV, e2008, Model 3, MG5 LR and settled on this for 3 reasons. Its range/rapid charging speeds, driving dynamics, and price per range. Even happier now than Ive seen the 1000km test done by bjorn nyland

[@siasek]

I think the MG4 was definitely a great choice. It does have some minor bugs, but seems nothing major, more like growin pains that I trust will get resolved (hopefully soon!). Most importantly, it's a thrill to drive and that's the way it should be. The rest are small things. But it's important to point them out so the manufacturer can address them. It can be very furstrating for people who are detail-oriented. We currently have a Citroen e-C4 and are very sorry the MG4 wasn't available when we were looking, otherwise I would definitely be driving one myself.

[@hughmacgregor5435]

There are a few things about the MG4. One of which I think is very important and hardly anyone ever mention it. That is the battery. The base model 51kw battery is a LFP. The 64kw is a NMC. The difference can be important. My understanding is the LFP has 2000 cycles. NMC has 500. It's what I've read about these batteries. NMC has cobalt for the cathode. That's the positive I believe. Plus LFP can be charged to 100% every time with no problems. NMC should be up to 80% and only when needed 100% if you want to care for the battery in your EV. NMC however works better in very very cold conditions. Also LFP is safer. It's is much less likely to have thermal runaway. That's when it catches fire and burns for a long time. As for one peddle driving. Breaks should be used to ensure they don't sit dormant. Plus if it's like my EV the break isn't touched until you are going about 15 or so kms/hr. So not much wear on them at all.

[@siasek]

Yes, you're right about the LFP. I've talked about this in other videos, I typically like to keep the topic somewhat narrow so as not to have an hour long video. No one wants to listen to me for that long 😅 But yes, you're right, the LFP is safer and can be charged to 100% as standard. I will say though that I typically charge up my NMC to 100% anyway because the displayed charge isn't a true 100% anyway and it'll only make a difference in a matter of like 8 years or so.. Chances are I'll have a new car by then. My ideal combo for the MG4 would be to get the Trophy version but with an LFP battery. I think that'd be the best of both worlds. Hope MG does it in the future! 🤞

[@evgenykyselgov9533]

@@siasek "Trophy version but with an LFP battery" would really cool!

[@robplume4778]

Not really had any issues with my 2023 Trophy long range, Just a dashboard rattle which is annoying on passenger side.

[@siasek]

That's great to hear! I believe a lot of issues have been resolved in the 2023 version.

[@gogiez]

Navigation freezes from time to time, and it's really annoying :) because once we missed our exit by 20 minutes and only then noticed that the mileage to the turn on the navigation didn't decrease!

[@siasek]

oh no, that's upleasant.. hope you weren't in a hurry! 🙈 Maybe you could try Google Maps in Android Auto, that should be reliable.

[@paulcolu]

Small annoying issues yes but I am sure will be mainly resolved with future software updates. Thats the risk with early adoption. I drive the MG4 Trophy in the UK and think it’s great at a very competitive price.

[@siasek]

For sure, early adoption always comes with a few bumps in the road. That's certainly to be expected and nothing to get too upset about. The part that seems unfortunate to me is the fact that MG doesn't communicate about upcoming software updates or stuff that's being prepared. It's the same story with the Citroen e-C4 (which I currently own) and it's just a shame. Clear communication goes a long way to keeping customers in the loop and more satisfied. I think MG could improve on that, as far as Citroen, I've already given up

[@jimmiepoggin]

Had one for couple of months. Annoying that the fact that you cannot use OPD at charge level over about 90% is not mentioned in the manual. Message is bullshit too. Says your charge is too low for OPD when in fact it is too high

[@ShadowMan1969]

I didn't like the OPD, found the braking too agressive.

[@kjh789az]

Currently borrowing a MG4 base model while I wait for my MG5 control unit to be replaced. MG4 has a great ride but your 9 points plus are what happens when you dont take driver feedback into consideration before going to market. I'd add: no over the air updates. Why? How do owners know when a software update is available? Stickey screen response. Just keep trying. No reverse cam on base model. Major safety ommision. As with lane alert, front crash warning wont stay off and is too sensitive. So, when slowing from 30mph as approach a junction, with a car ahead, auto braking sometimes interrupts the smooth stop with a frightening jolt. Locate the charge flap on the bonnet/ hood undrr the MG logo not on the passenget side rear flank. Thanks!

[@siasek]

Yea, I think it really mainly comes down to MG not communicating. 1. not listening to their existing customers' complaints and 2. not letting their existing customers know if/ when they are fixing some of these issues. I do hope they get better at that - we will certainly keep talking about these things and keep putting the pressure on, so hopefully it'll help a bit too 😄 Thank you for adding to the list! I'm currently preparing a part 2 so I'll add it in.

[@kjh789az]

@@siasek Thank you!

[@isaacplans4778]

Thanks for the good video. I totally agree on the LKA complaint. Biggest bugbear by far. This function is useless and dangerous on the MG4 and coming on every time you turn on the car is a big nuisance

[@siasek]

You're welcome, I'm happy you enjoyed it! The LKA thing is crazy, it's such a paradox that having it automatically come on everytime gives it the high safety rating, meanwhile it's out there trying to kill people 🙄 Make it make sense!

[@ianlambert1071]

Yes, inability for the system to remember settings is frustrating., and the absence of 'over the air' software updates suggests that even if the 2023 model software changes like single pedal driving become available as a retrofit software update to 2022 models., we will have to wait .... an extremely long time in the queue to have it applied. I love the handling of the car., but the frustration of having no communication from the manufacturer about availability or planned action on software fixes or developments will drive me to a Tesla next time. The more success MG have with selling these lovely cars, the longer the queue for software updates will become I fear. And yes - in rural Britain with its heavily potholed roads requiring frequent driving across the central white lines ., forgetting to switch off 'lane keep assist', even for someone with strong wrists is certainly not an improvement in safety., neither is the subsequent 4 step touch screen process for switching it off whilst driving.

[@siasek]

When you put it that way, that LKA does seem like big pain... They should make it a lot easier to turn off since we're talking about a "safety measurement" and this seems to do quite the opposite 😬 . The lack of communication is really unfortunate. It seems to be the rule more than an exception these days - companies spend their resources to lure in new customers but don't the same effort to keep existing ones happy. Very shortsighted, as evident even by your comment about going with Tesla in the future. Maybe, hopefully, MG will still get their ish together and address some of these issues soon. It's really a shame for such a nice car to be marred by seemingly easily fixable mistakes. Thank you for sharing your perspective!

[@cjking451]

I would like to be able to put the supplied charge cable and the extra cable for untether points under the boot floor like the zs ev but there is no room not even under the front seats

[@siasek]

I assume you have the SE version without the double level boot floor? I would miss that too! Maybe there's a way to get a dual level floor from the Trophy.

[@comeinhandynow]

I have the xpower and both cables fit under the boot floor which has a couple of inchs of space above the pump

[@siasek]

😮 wow! How is the XPower? Seems like a whole lot of fun to drive.. It does seem like the XPower has just enough room for cables undet be bood floor, but unfortunately the MG4 SE version doesn't have anything like that

[@markbray3038]

Lane keep, and heater issues are a thing. But its something that I wish MG please fix ASAP

[@siasek]

@markbray3038 Yea, some of these issues are really a downer. It would be great if MG got better and quicker at communication and addressing these owner complaints.

[@Artstjohns]

I've 10000kms done on my MG4 and I really do like the car. I like the way it drives, functions and looks. I think as an EV it represents great value for money. However since the topic is annoyances, here are my observations. The LKA has given me a lot of cause for alarm, in particular one time, as I passed a group of cyclists it pulled the car back towards them. I always turn it off, which in itself is dangerous if done when driving. Here are some other minor annoyances for the list. There is a design flaw with the phone tray. The surface has a low grip and the sides are shallow so invariably my phone slides off it when the car accelerates rapidly or on sharp corners. The TPMS has reported low tyre pressure warnings even though the tyre pressure was only slightly below normal and there was no real issues with tyre pressure or a puncture. Interestingly this warning came up on the three MG4s that I have driven (the two demo cars and the one I own). The air conditioner is noisy. There is no outside temperature display (2013 SE version). And lastly sometimes info or warnings pop up on the display, but only for a second and are gone before I can read them.

[@siasek]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! That phone tray issue is such amateur hour! 😅 Really seems like they could've tested that and chosen a better material. I do think the LKA is the worst offender here.. I did read recently that there is a service bulletin active for it and you can book a warranty service for an update, so maybe you can look into that. Fingers crossed that the other bugs will be resolved soon as well!

[@glennO-e9r]

Never buy the first model of anything… Always purchase the next model update.

[@siasek]

😄 Wise words to live by! But I guess that's just the curse of early adopters - someone's got to try out the first generation and find all the bugs for the sake of improvement and innovation.

[@coffee702]

Its released in the UK a year earlier.

[@FallenAngel53]

It’s been out though since 21/22 no?

[@glennO-e9r]

@@FallenAngel53 it’s just had a model update last month.

[@Pippymint]

It has a 7 year unlimited warranty. I don’t care about any potential issues.

[@Mario-jn5zq]

I bought a MY22 MG4 51kwh with all updates.Preheating works fine here while plugged in. The AC maybe feels a bit colder but we opened a Alfa Romeo that felt much cooler then my Kia... We like the car, the only big I noticed is when turning the volume off your music up or down at the steering wheel and you hold the button the software crashes and don't let you adjust the volume anymore till new start.

[@siasek]

I hope you'll be satisfied, it seems you got the last update! That volume control error on the steering wheel is annoying, but luckily you just have to click through gradually, so at least there's that! I wish you lots of great experiences with MG4, personally I like it a lot. The price/performance ratio is still absolutely wonderful.

[@evgenykyselgov9533]

Is it possible to switch off LKA in your latest software and car remember this setting for the next trips?

[@ShadowMan1969]

I got my 74 plate MG 4 SE Long Range last week and am so far quite pleased with it. I think MG may have turned down the LKA as mine just vibrates the wheel, nothing worse than the Focus I had before. The Radio doesn't know what it wants to do, I always leave the car with it turned on, sometimes it's on, sometimes off when I return! Haven't experienced the rest of the issues yet. My other bug bear is that the plastic interior trim on the door cards marks so easy. Oh, and I've had the Automatic Handbrake disengage randomly in traffic a couple of times - which is intesting!

[@7drobin]

I have had my MG51 for one week. I don't like the collision and the line assist. They are dangerous software issues. They are easy to disable, but you need to do it whenever you restart. I love the adaptive cruise control, but it is not perfect. This is a car that bangs for the bucks. I do recommend it. My A.H is working solidly, I was worried at first, but it is a no issue. @ShadowMan1969 you need to get it fix under warranty, this is a critical failure, don't put up with it.

[@vitessescw]

LKA is not just annoying- it’s dangerous! My 2023 Trophy snatches the steering and tries to drive into hedges, crash barriers, oh and even oncoming traffic 😮 when there is no sign of a visible line in the road. Additionally I can usually drive over white lines without it complaining if I want to. It is not fit for purpose. I ALWAYS switch it off - every trip. One other glitch is the radio stopping for no reason. You have to re-boot the whole infotainment system to get it to work again. For ref. This is a 2023 Trophy with software R30

[@siasek]

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences, and with the newest software at that! It almost sounds like your LKA is trying to kill you.😳 Really makes one wonder what the hell kind of test the NACP is doing?! I hadn't yet come across any info about the radio turning off, that's a new one for me. Sounds like one more annoyance to add to the list. 🙄 I do hope MG starts taking care of some of these issues soon... and that they get the OTA updates working. Keeping my fingers crosed.🤞

[@stevews]

you have to turn off LKA, instead, pull the mg pilot stick towarding you twice to activate mg pilot, the lane keep function under mg pilot is much much better.

[@comeinhandynow]

@@stevews what mg pilot stick?! It’s an mg4

[@pauld7827]

The temperature issue is also a problem with the MG ZS EV. I took mine in when I first got it last November, because the car was really cold even though it was set to 23 degrees!

[@siasek]

And how did it turn out, did it get fixed? It's interesting that there are problems with such a basic thing 🤨

[@garybainbridge1376]

One annoyance with me is the fact that when playing music from the USB card, it plays in alphabetical order rather than the track order on the album. Many MP3 played do this as well. Not a lot of use if you;re listening to an audiobook where the chapters are separate files with the chapter name as the title.

[@PaulvanDruten]

Good summ up! This is a tip: let the systems boot up properly before driving of... LKA is suicidal!

[@siasek]

😅 really makes you wonder how the LKA can excel in those safety tests!?!

[@raystone4673]

Lots of good info. I don't own one but will one day. Yes, many new owners want a car to do what's expected like every previous one they've owned. The radio problem, lane following feature, opening door when on etc. drivers want to be in control. "Give me features, but let me turn them off till I want them again", is the general wish of many 'Oldies' like me. Maybe you could do a follow up video, say 12 months after this, and refer back to the 9 points, and say " Guess what? Manufacturer has addressed none of these". (If they haven't). I'd still buy one with all these quirks. I'll keep watching. Thanks.

[@siasek]

I do think having more control over the features is importatnt.. I want that in my car too, especially if they're not functioning properly! I did a video about a month ago about a recent software update that addresses some of these, you can check it out here if you're curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap-oY36Frs6dmLc&ab_channel=siasek Good idea about the 12 month update, I'll keep that in my back pocket. Thank you! I'm happy you found the video useful 😊

[@kithmo1]

I have a problem with the windscreen washers. the spray from them hits the windscreen wiper arms instead of the screen, if I adjust them the go over the wiper arms then they spray the roof. My radio problem is the opposite to what's mentioned in the video, mine doesn't always come on when I turn on the car, I have to adjust the volume control or press pause (to unpause) on the steering wheel right joystick. That doesn't always work so I have to use the voice control saying. "hey MG" then. "I want to listen to radio" which works. Another problem with the radios is it keeps losing the saved favourite stations, as if the aerial is weak, this is worse on DAB.

[@siasek]

Interesting problem with those windscreen washers, I haven't registered that on an MG4 before! The radio problem you have is really quite the opposite from the others for you! It's incredible how MG really keeps me (and everyone else) guessing. Almost every video I make has someone commenting that their experience is different. Makes it a difficult to make sense of all this. 😅 That's pretty annoying that it keeps losing your saved favorites. Maybe they're trying to keep your memory sharp? Geeze, thanks a lot MG, you really shouldn't have. 🙄

[@InBodWeTrust]

LKA is OK on my car, but I wouldn't use it on minor (country) roads. (It activates at about 40 mph, so isn't an issue in town). TJA (Traffic Jam Assist, a cheap version of Tesla's autopilot) though is another matter - it works OK most of the time, but if you're on a motorway and are overtaking a truck, TJA will often try to steer you INTO the truck!

[@siasek]

😬 huh... well that's just awful. I feel like this "it works ok most of the time BUT" is somehow worse than if it was just bad all around. It's like luring you into a false sense of security and then giving you a mini heart attack every now and then. hmm, I don't like the sound of that at all. What you say about LKA makes sense - I have heard most negative feedback on country roads.

[@peterengland6153]

Thanks for the 40 mph activates info, thought I would have to go through the hassle of turning it off ever trip. 98% of my trips are around town at 50kph speed limit.

[@aloklahad]

I have a base model which is called MG4 Electric Standard. In my case the Phone App did not sink with the car. I wrote to MG. They wrote back saying that I should contact the local dealer. I have not have the time to go and visit him. I checked the web and it seems this problem is also quiet rampant.

[@siasek]

This seems to be a common issue with the MG4. Try clearing the app cache, updating it, or checking if the car is linked to another account. If that doesn’t help, visiting the dealer might be necessary. You can also check the MG EVs forum (mgevs.com) for more advice from other owners.

[@michaelarulanantham8833]

How are people finding the LFP battery compared to "traditional" lithium-ion?

[@7drobin]

I love it. I do not worry about charging 100%.all the time. And the range is OK. When I get home, the 240V home charger is plugged in, and in the morning, it is magic! 100%, full as a goog. Ahhhh! 350km usable driving!!! 450KM equivalent NMC battery chemistry. Best secret ever, don't tell anybody!!!

[@jdee4763]

Is there a programmable FAVOURITE button on the steering wheel? Which could be linked to the (LKA) lane keep assist?? Thereby making it quicker to switch off???

[@siasek]

That would be a great help, but unfortunately you can't program the Favorite buttons to link with the LKA. 🫤 Overall, I think the car could use at least two more of those buttons to link to all the needed functions.

[@bill_heywood]

Another great detailed video Fina 👍 I’m pretty sure the oil leak was only an issue for a small number of the very early cars - the ones with the driver monitoring. My car is a 2022 model and it’s not had any leak and I’ve not seen it mentioned on the MG4 forums for months I hadn’t noticed about the lack of chargers on the built in sat-nav, I always use Google maps on Android auto Can’t say the auto lights bother me, they are on auto and I just leave them My radio doesn’t turn on unless it was on when I locked the car LKA is really not garbage, it appears to do its job. It should remember the settings you prefer though - same for all driver settings in the MG4. I only turn it off if I am going to drive on a country road with the opportunity to cut some apexes Yes, there are gripes with any car, but the main takeaway anyone should have from the MG4 is that it is great fun to drive and excellent value for money

[@siasek]

Thank you! Overall, I agree with you. It's a great value and a nice, fun car to drive, but I certainly don't think it hurts to give a little push back for the sake of further improvements 😊 As far as the automatic lights go, I agree this is not a big pain...the real issue would be if they weren't turning on when you need them. The way it stands is a minor inconvenience at most. The LKA is where I've noticed the most split opinions. I assume this comes down to who spends more time on rural vs urban roads and also just personal experience. One commenter referred to it as Lane Kill Assist, which gave me a good laugh, 😅 but I've heard feedback from several others who agree with you that it's okay, though perhaps a bit more forceful than it needs to be. At this point, the one thing I think we could probably all agree on is that it'd be nice if it could be turned off using one button instead of a 3 or 4 step process via the infotainment screen. Oh, and remembering driver settings is a big one. If that gets fixed (it should be in newer models), I think that'll also go a long way to keeping drivers happier.

[@Peter-oh3pm]

LKA problem. I have a FIAT 500e, and it has just the same problem. Software update made some changes to LKA, but it is still not good at all. i drive mostly small roads, and I don't like it trying to stear me to the midle of the road (not the lane).

[@siasek]

😬 ugh, yeah, that's awful. It's horribly fascinating that these automakers send this out onto the road and, perhaps even worse, that it passes the NCAP safety tests. I suppose it's because they test the vehicles in very specific conditions as opposed to testing them in real traffic. But it's just horribly ironic - they are de facto installing a "safety feature" that casually tries to kill you every once in a while. 🙄

[@JuanCarlosCarcelesOrtizpelacab]

Hello, I have just purchased a MG MG4 Extended Range, so I am a completely new driver for this car, there is one option I would really like, is that car starts with the same driving mode you choose the last time, I mean, right now I always choose ECO driving mode, and car always starts in NORMAL mode, why you can't keep last selection ?? and some minor issues, I am still learning the vehicule. Thanks for your video.

[@siasek]

oh yea, unfortunately it doesn't remember driver settings between rides.. and I don't believe it got fixed even with the software update, which would've been the perfect opportunity.😑 I've had several viewers comment they have a whole startup checklist they go through before setting off. Hopefully MG will get it right next time in the next update. I hope you're enjoying the ride still, despite some of those small setbacks

[@edvoon]

Thanks for the "holding home for 10s" tip for restarting the infotainment - good thing to know. This seems to be the most serious problem on this list. Lots of little things that are not deal breakers but would be a nice thing to have. Thankful for the UK users who have identified the issues so some of them might be hopefully fixed by the time we get our deliveries in Australia later this year ^_^

[@siasek]

Greetings to Australia! I'm glad you found it helpful! Not being the first market definitely has its perks - hopefully at least the biggest issues will be fixed by the time you receive your MG4 😄 Fingers crossed🤞

[@numeristatech]

MG5 owner - same infotainment system, but regen and drive modes have dedicated switches on the central column. I've had the main screen freeze, reverse cam not select , and some infotainment crashes that also take out automatic headlights and LKA. Regarding LKA and radio coming on automatically, none of the settings stay set it seems: driving mode is set to comfort, regen to 2, climate control to auto and 22 degrees, irrespective of what you set previously. And changing temperature and fan speed on the touch screen is not easy as it misses your presses. Finally, a couple of "wheels not straight" warnings, not sure why that needs a warning and a couple of times the car refuses to go from Park to Drive or Reverse, it just flips back to Park. Turning the car off and on 1 or 2 times seems to clear the issue. Anyone seen that on an MG4?

[@siasek]

As far as I know from discussions below videos, the infotainment freezes and sometimes the camera doesn't work. But I haven't heard of that parking/driving transition with the MG4 yet. Overall though, are you pretty happy with the MG5? Seems a great value for money and has a very nice interior in my opinion.

[@numeristatech]

@@siasek it's not as sexy as the MG4 and seems to be an older electronics on the charge side as the fast charge seems to be limited to 70 or so kw/h. It's comfy and quiet - a friend with a Tesla 3 prefers mine for the quieter ride - it's also a front wheel drive rather than the MG4 rear / all wheel drive so a bit less of a hot-hatch. Decent boot space and space in the rear seats but wish the front passenger seat had electric adjustment - or even just height adjustments (wondering if I get an electric drivers seat abroad and fitting that would solve that issue with some creative wiring....), and pretty enough inside while still retaining a classic look. Main gripes are the slower fast charging speed and the lack of a speed limiter in the regulated cruise control, but again I believe this is the same across their whole EV range, and my wife is happy enough with it that we may get a second - possibly an extended range 4 this time!

[@siasek]

That's great, I'm glad you have such a good experience with the MG5. I considered it myself for a bit, but in the end the big step down folding the seats down took it out of the running. For me it sort of takes away the pros of having a station wagon. Otherwise, I have similarly positive impressions of it as you do, and thanks so much for sharing your personal experience 🤩

[@trythis2821]

Good to know, was considering an MG4 but with these issues, no thank you will look elsewhere.

[@CreRay]

Hi Fina, if you used your EV for holidays, would it be an idea to cover you experiences with the charge situation during the holiday periods? It would be especially interesting if you drove it to CZ or else across Europe. I'm still considering an EV but congestion at chargers is one thing that definitely worries me, especially considering I do 90% of my annual km's during the holidays (I bicycle to work).

[@siasek]

I love that idea! Traveling somewhere across Europe would probably be best, since the Citroën would take me across most of CZ on one charge. I will definitely start planning that because it sounds like a lot of fun. Will be a bit easier once the channel starts making a little pocket money 😄 I'm thinking if you say you bicycle to work now, I assume that means you are not traveling super long distances? In that case, I don't think even congested chargers would be too much of an issue because presumably you wouldn't have to be charging up very often. Plus if you'd have the opportunity to use an AC charger and plug in either at home or at work, you might really have to visit a DC charger only once in a blue moon. Personally, I have yet to encounter an overloaded charging station in CZ, can't speak for the rest of Europe of course.. I do think it'll start to be a concern as EVs keep growing in popularity.

[@dean7442]

Great video, I love how you are picking these up, as you say MG needs to take note of these issues and their customers too. I leave LKA on, it's fine for me along with auto door locking. Issue No.12: Warped under tray on early models. No.13: Very Noisy Air Con. No.14: Last used driving mode is not saved. No.15: Last used regenerative setting is not saved.

[@siasek]

From what I gather from other comment, the LKA mainly seems to be an issue on rural roads which may have lots of potholes, unclear lane marking, etc. If you mainly drive in the city, it seems to be reasonable, though perhaps a bit more forceful than necessary. Thank you for mentioning the other issues! I was just listening to a video of the air conditioning noises that someone sent me yesterday and all I can say is yikes! 😳 Those sounds are not comforting in the least. Based on the feedback in the comments so far, it looks like I'll be making a follow-up video with all the stuff I missed. 😅

[@dean7442]

@@siasek As a note, LKA only engages above 40 Mph. Yes it's annoying for some and a button to switch it off would be great, but it's buried in the menu system. Unfortunately NCAP dictates the default is 'on'. A follow up on other issues would be great, let me know if you want pics (warped under tray etc). Happy to help

[@siasek]

Yeah, that'll be great if you send over some pics. Please send it on the email that you'll find in the About section of the channel (don't want to write it out here cause of robots). Thank you so much! 😊

[@comeinhandynow]

@@siasek My new one’s A/C noise is fine, not loud or unusual.

[@siasek]

Oh that's wonderful. It's not an issue for everyone, so you're one of the lucky ones

[@fraenqy]

By the way, the illumination of the low beam while the high beam is switched on, the light cone seems to be too little. It lacks about 20-40 meters. This should also be controllable either by new LED brands or software. But I don't think the LEDs can bring more light range.

[@siasek]

Do you have a Trophy or the SE? Because I heard that the Trophy has better lights

[@fraenqy]

@@siasek Trophy, will keep watching

[@anticat900]

Yes the temp reading is lower than it is, the lane keeping is scary at times, there is no easy off button, the settings are not stored after turn off, the steering controls have no entertainment mode switch. All of these could be sorted in software and I hope soon, as any use of the touch screen i find dangerous when driving.

[@siasek]

I totally agree, fingers crossed for an update soon! And I hope OTA will also be functional ASAP

[@fraenqy]

Hello, what I also noticed that it really wouldn't be bad (so rather in the category of improvement) is an interior lighting in the footwell. All in all, this shouldn't be so difficult to include in the design planning. Question arises for me, why not?

[@siasek]

I see your point, but it's still a fairly inexpensive car, so I guess anything extra would add cost to it. 🤷

[@stewartburnett7303]

Thanks, nice round up. No oil leaks here. Internal temperature: not checked with a thermometer, but consistently need to set to around 23-24oC where in previous cars I've set 20-21oC. Radio: doesn't always turn on automatically, mostly it does after it was on last time, some times it does not. Occasionally it turns on when previously it was not... LKA & Emergency Braking: don't have any real issue with this - if you holding the steering wheel and have foot on or hovering over accelerator.. certainly no more than any previous car with LKA and emergency braking functions.Emergency braking function is more of a marketing message - its no where near the braking power available in dry conditions for an emergency stop. Slightly more concerning for a new owner would be the default TJA (Traffic Jam Assist), rather than plain ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) setting when cruise control it set. TJA will steer the car for you (much more agressive than LKA), it even works (quite well) at motorway speeds - just not quite how you'd like it too... The press "Home" button for 10 secs does get used once a fornight or so, previous car you needed to stop, turn it off and then re-start, though for more serious "glitches" that still applies to MG4.

[@siasek]

Thank you so much for your personal experience! It's interesting how opinions on LKA seem to vary quite a bit. I've heard many people comment on how dangerous it is, stating they have turn it off every time before they start driving, while others have said it's really no big deal... maybe it depends on the type of roads people frequent the most. I haven't really read much feedback about the TJA, except I remember someone mentioning it on one of my videos a couple months back, but he said that it's a pretty good help when sitting in stop and go traffic... It just seems like different MG4 owners have vastly different experiences sometime.

[@darylwood4801]

I cant understand why people explain the lane assist issue away and then still think it is a good car. If I passed this on to my partner to drive it would most likely result in an accident. What is wrong with you people. These faults are not exceptable on any level.

[@siasek]

I would probably complain first to EuroNCAP, who tested the assistant in crash tests. I think it depends on who has updated the controllers, and some combinations just work fundamentally worse than others. Fortunately it's easy to turn off, which most probably do. 🙂 But it's just one function of a car that's otherwise awesome. Worse would be if, say, the door handles froze in the winter like on a Tesla, or the parking sensors stopped working because they decided to and they don't care that you bought it with working ones. 😄

[@JaniRajaniemi]

After an update its not that bad.

[@jimmiepoggin]

I assume you mean not acceptable?

[@PhantomTD]

Waiting for my xpower. But i have had issues with rear view camera not coming on and freezes, both with an 18 model s. Now those issues are gone :)

[@siasek]

I feel like those camera issues seem to pop up in a lot of cars, good thing Tesla got it fixed..hopefully that sticks! The XPOWER seems so fun. I'm a tad bit jealous... 🤭 When are you expecting to get it?

[@PhantomTD]

Yeah the Tesla S75D has been great. But I am tired of the doorhandles and frameless windows in the frozen weather around here. I will get my Xpower November-December, so no exact date :) Great video's btw. I had a marathon yesterday!@@siasek

[@siasek]

Sure, I get that. That's what turns me off of Tesla, it's almost too streamlined, or minimalistic or futuristic or whatever for my taste. Well you don't have much longer to wait for the XPOWER, that's awesome. I'd love to hear your impressions once you get it. I'm so glad you enjoy my videos. I do my best to bring value and something different. It's great to hear positive feedback, thank you!

[@PhantomTD]

Sure thing, I think that the XPower is also the cheapest 4wd EV you can get (At least in Norway), kind of funny since it is so damn quick!@@siasek

[@siasek]

That's right, I don't think anything even remotely comes close. Plus, even with the normal version, people are raving about how well it drives. So I'm sure it will be a lot of fun! And I think some things can be even more of an experience than in a Tesla. 🤩

[@1cichy2]

I have mg4 few weeks, it is long range trophy/exclusive (I'm in Ireland) orange colour but it came without black roof. Car dealer painted for extra 500 EUR. I have 3 Handel's inside car for passengers, but no for driver and I have rear wiper. I notice the temperature inside the car it is feel lower. At this moment I don't have any others problems. I didn't checked the app all fiction. Line keeping assistant, for me, working good. My wife has Renault capture with LKA and in my opinion worked similar to MG4.

[@siasek]

That's great you have a rear wiper! How well does it work? I've received a lot of mixed feedback about the Lane Keep Assist. Most of it has definitely been negative but I've heard from a few people who, like you, say that theirs works just fine. It's pretty strange how experiences can vary so much with the same car. I imagine it can make decision making difficult for prospective buyers

[@phil1898]

It's a nice size and a far more accessible price but that's a double edged sword. It was clearly built down to a price with some poorly considered cost cutting. There's no excuse for a modern car to fail to save virtually all settings every time you turn it off. This is probably just about the only modern car to still use incandescent bulbs for indicators and inside, and where's the rear internal light? Did they even bother to test that silly shallow platform for the phone? It just flies off under acceleration. The Xpower model has those silly orange calliper covers... WHY? I'll get rid of those when (if) I decide to buy one - I'm still on the fence. Apart from all that, the thing that really makes me think twice about it is the ridiculous level of nannying from this car. We're not five years old...

[@siasek]

Yes, I'm sure some of these issues/shorcomings come as a result of trying to keep costs down. But I do have to say that I've been in significantly more expensive EVs that STILL had many compromises, which is why I'm willing to cut MG a little slack. I think the 2023 MY MG4 will keep driver settings saved, so that's a good improvement. I would hope they'd fix lighting as well, but even if not, luckily that is an easy fix. Regarding those calliper covers, it seems to me like they have a weird obsession with that color orange at MG. I'm not a fan either... but I guess they could be replaced fairly easily, so it's not a dealbraker. At the end of the day the worst of it to me is definitely the LKA. If there were a way to turn that off and KEEP it off, I think that would be a huge plus. 🙌

[@tonychallinor6721]

Hi - great video, well researched. 3 months into my MG4 I thought I'd give some real world feedback. The Lane Keep Assist does have to be turned off when starting the car because it gets confused and randomly and sharply pulls you to the nearside. It happens on every trip at least once and is scary. When I forgot to turn it off recently it tried to drive me off a motorway - and being a UK smart motorway there was no lane to go into. Air con - you are right - the temperature settings make no sense. I dont care if the lights are on all the time. I like the doors locking having spent a lot of time in the USA it seems normal to me as an anti-car jacking tool. Battery pre-heating has never worked for me, but maybe that's because it is summer (but in the UK tho!). I agree that not having chargers on the map is a big gap - I like the MG4 built in maps - hated the ZS EV version tho.

[@siasek]

The LKA seems really bad from what I've been reading in these comments. It sounds like the most dangerous "safety" features they could have thought of. Someone just commented that it's the same deal with the Fiat 500 e so now I'm curious how many more cars have this issue... sound like I'll be doing some research. The automatic lights also seem like a non-issue to me, but I suppose it could annoy some people... luckily it's an easy fix. The AC thing would probably irk me a bit, but I guess once you get used to it it's not sooo bad. The door locking seems normal to me as well... maybe that's my US background speaking too. 🙈 Anyways, thank you for watching and sharing your experience! 😊

[@chrispenn715]

LKA can be set to 'low' and the car will remember the setting - not perfect, but ok to live with..

[@siasek]

That's a good point. The LKA's aggressivity seems to be the biggest problem, so I imagine this is a good help. Is it possible in both the SE and the Trophy?

[@chrispenn715]

I use Android auto rather than the inbuilt sat nav - with a cheap adaptor which gives me wireless Android Auto. You can then use your favourite route planner - google maps, zap map etc.

[@siasek]

Good thinking! If I had an MG4 I'd buy a wireless AA adapter too and have it sorted. Personally I'd never use the built in nav either and I'm pretty surprised that people use it... maybe it's inspired by Bjorn who uses it to do his 1000km challenges 😄

[@Paul99T]

I used to use Google Maps for navigation before I got the Trophy. Personally I find the inbuilt navigation far better than google. (a) Google generally does not give enough warning of turns etc. (b) the directions can be shown in the HUD behind the steering wheel which is helpful.

[@siasek]

That's interesting, I'm glad you're happy with the built-in navigation, I personally thought it was just like every other built-in - out of date, slow and with terrible sound quality. Having the directions on the HUD is a huge plus!

[@comeinhandynow]

@@Paul99TThat is not a HUD, it doesn’t have one. HUD is a projected on the windscreen type of system which is not available.

[@Paul99T]

The "travel plans" option to send navigation instructions from the App to the car just doesn't work. If I use "Send" option in the app, it sends it to "points of interest" in the car but ... the address is usually in Chinese and fails when you try to navigate to it. If I use "Create" option in the app, it appears as a message on the top right of console, but when you go to "Travel Plans" in the car the Tab button simply doesn't work... it just goes back to the User screen everytime! (R30 software version)

[@siasek]

That's annoying, sounds like MG has managed to develop another somewhat useless app to go with their car. 🙄 I have many issues with the app in my Citroen as well, so I feel your frustration. Btw, I added this info into my new video so thank you very much for sharing 😊

[@michaelrathbone7258]

Every single time i drive i need to turn off the lane assist & reselect my drive mode; most concerning thing is that MG do not seem to care. Despite everything, it is an amazing car for the price, very good handling. The charging situation is a nightmare, but that is not MG's fault. However, I have never gotten above 100Kw charging speed (actually only like 70-80Kw), despite mine being rated for 130+... and yes I have done that from a 5% charge on a warm day with battery heating enabled. Should I return the car because I was lied to? No it is still the cheapest EV with a decent battery. They've cut corners to reach this low price, but those corners are not so bad :)

[@siasek]

I completely agree. If they invested a bit more into information about software and updates, it would reassure customers to let them know - we know about the LKA problem and we are working on a fix... It's that simple. Regarding the DC charging, I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I think the charging was reduced to 88 kW max, that would be consistent with your findings. Still, that's very good for the money. 🙂 I have an e-C4 that cost almost as much new as two MG4s and the winter charging is an absolute tragedy (below 30 kW and the battery heater can't be turned on, winter DC charging is more of an ordeal than with the old VW e-Golf, big shame for Stellantis)

[@paulowen1855]

Yes the lane assist is terrible, it can try and spear you off into oncoming traffic or the curb at any time it feels like it, the cruise control will hit the breaks on an empty straight road, but the car it’s self is a nice ride.

[@siasek]

Thanks for the experience, it's interesting how the same systems can behave differently. I guess it depends on the software version.. I've heard from people who have no issue, but I have heard way more horror stories. I do hope MG takes care of the LKA, because that experience sounds just awful 😕

[@peterensinger1770]

MG should look at Mercedes for an example of how the lane keeping assist should work I have a Mercedes B class which also has LKA and the way it works is if you are drifting out of the lane the LKA gently vibrates the steering wheel and if you get too close to the edge of the road the LKA briefly applies the brakes and vibrates the steering wheel in the direction you need to steer to avoid the edge of the road. I have had many drives of the MG4 and the only criticism i have is the LKA is too strong it almost steers the car into a hedge on country lanes. I have ordered the trophy spec version of the MG4 to replace the Mercedes as apart from the LKA i am impressed by the comfort and driving experience with the car. I will just turn off the LKA each time i start to drive it is a shame that the car doesn't remember the settings of these functions this i believe would be an easy software fix.

[@siasek]

Hah! The fact that you're trading in you Mercedes for the MG4 speaks volumes. Seems like despite small shortcomings, it's still a really awesome car. The 2023 model upgrade includes the driver setting memory, so hopefully they will be providing this software fix even for older models. I do think that most its current imperfections should be fairly easy fixes. I hope they make them soon and INFORM current owners about it 😊

[@peterensinger1770]

@siasek I have a friend who has had an MG4 trophy since February and he put my name on his insurance so i could drive it longer than any test drive as such i have driven the MG4 for a few hours on several occasions and i based my decision to buy the MG4 trophy on this experience as i am impressed by the driving experience. I had been looking at going electric when i change my car so i have ordered the MG4 trophy spec, and the expected delivery is early to mid September and i am looking forward to getting it. especially as the price of petrol is rising again. i am definitely looking forward to the savings on the fuel as i am on an EV tariff for my electricity and at night i will get 6 hours of low rate electricity at 7.5p per Kwh i expect to do 200 miles a week so my spend on electricity should be less than £10 a week for the car I am currently paying about £60 per week in petrol to do these 200 miles.

[@siasek]

Wow, that's a great price per kWh. Your driving costs will be completely minimal! Not to mention all the money you'll save by not needing oil changes, maintenance costs, etc. It's awesome that you got to get to know the car quite a bit more than a simple test drive. Now you know what to expect. Hope you'll enjoy the ride soon!

[@endeffekttube]

It´s thanks to its 5 star NCAP rating the lane assist is always on. So no fix.

[@siasek]

you're right.. but it would be nice if they made it a bit easier to switch off at least.

[@AAgenso]

If you fast charge the MG4 up to its max of 97% you run the risk of destabilising the battery. You get NO warning, but the following charge has to be the slowest one possible. Otherwise you will not be able to charge the car. It is extremely impractical when on a trip, where you need to fast charge on the way. In other words: Do not attempt to fast charge over 90%. A

[@gustavopedrosa81]

Turning off the 360 Camara when you go to Drive from reverse it's the worst

[@siasek]

I agree, supposedly you can swipe left to the next screen and click on the icon...which is pretty useless too imo. Why isn't there just a button on the camera? Supposedly you can add it to the steering wheel to a customizable button, except...there are only two and the camera is about third in terms of importance... 🫤

[@gustavopedrosa81]

@@siasek I have it on the star button, but for every move, I have to press it.

[@siasek]

oh, so it's accessible but I can imagine still kind of unecessarily irritating.. At least your thumb gets a workout I guess 😄

[@ajtame]

If these are the main issues with the car then it seems a really good car given how minor they are!

[@siasek]

It's true, they're basically little things and the better the rest of the car is, the more they annoy you! MG, can you hear us?! 😄

[@Jimages_uk]

How many of these have now been resolved?

[@ShadowMan1969]

On my new one the LKA doesn't seem to be as aggressive as previously, now it just vibrates the wheel.

[@thomasjohnbirks132]

I am content with my MG4, however, I have never had any communication from MG about anything. KZbin is my only source of information.

[@siasek]

It seems that MG focuses most of their communication efforts on marketing. 😄 Still, it's good to hear that you're happy with your ride!

[@johnfrancis4401]

It would be handy to start off with a list then you can pass on the items that don’t worry you.

[@siasek]

I've listed the chapters in the description so you can jump around as needed. To be fair, it takes some time to gather the info and make these videos, so I don't want to give everything away in the first minute and tank my viewership, therebey negating all my effort 😄 I'm sure you understand.

[@johnfrancis4401]

@@siasek Thanks

[@rochagugu]

My MG4 resets all the settings like the one pedal driving every time I use it......

[@siasek]

🫤 unfortunately MG still hasn't done anything about this and at this point I'm kind of afraid they never will...

[@thctlo7508]

add as nr 10, car is vibrating. very annoying. as dutch driver i only have 3 complaints. 1 car is vibrating, they already change my behind axel and new tires but its not solved 2 the navigation in dutch isn't working so im unable to use voice commands. no fix , mg says use your phone.. wtf .. 3 airco temps, i set mine on 27-28c. it just suks, 27is cold, 28 is to hot. and the airflow is crap. driving a mg4 thropy ex ed. but why are mg4 vibration so much anyone?

[@TheAlien1974]

Apparently you lose all your settings ie steering throttle ect everytime you restart your car

[@siasek]

You're right - unfortunately driver settings don't stay set between rides. 🙄 This has been remedied in the 2023 model, but we have yet to see whether they will also updated the software for older models (as they should!).

[@patrickh7368]

Thank you…. I’m too used to cars that give 100% reliability from new to sale so of course taking on inferior technology after spending a load of money is not appealing at all… MG need to fix everything 😮

[@siasek]

Unfortunately at this point I don't think you can buy any EV that's similarly good for that kind money.. and there are definitely much more expensive cars with very similar flaws. I think most of this comes down to growing pains, but I do hope that we will have a better selection of high quality and affordable EVs soon! 🤞

[@fraenqy]

Please forward this to the appropriate department by e-mail to MG. Seems to be just a formality of the boss department to fix all this.

[@siasek]

Well exactly - it SHOULD be just that easy.

[@JonnyCooper]

Mandatory LKA is a deal-breaker for me. After 3 years screaming at my Merc every time i drive it, I'm not gonna put myself through this again.

[@siasek]

Fortunately you CAN turn it off in the MG4, but you have to do it every time you get back in, which is annoying. Unfortunately it's pretty much becoming a required part of all new vehicles. Okay, but let's hope they can make these LKAs in a way that's not trying to actively kill us at least! 😆🫣

[@JonnyCooper]

Thankfully on the steering wheel of my new car, the Ioniq 5, is an actual BUTTON to press to switch it off. Yeah! @@siasek

[@siasek]

That's awesome! Exactly how it should be, I love it! 🤩

[@dcawkwell]

The lane keeping assist is insanely annoying. I want it off all the time. MG are you listening? How can it be safe to have the steering wheel yanked out of your hand if you want to join a motorway. Also I have to reset the driving mode to ECO and one pedal driving every time I get in the car, come on why aren't these features saved?

[@vintageschumacher]

Information regarding the VW Golf is incorrect. Info-tertainment screens fail in the new golf fact, software or hardware not known

[@siasek]

Hi, I was referring to the VW e-Golf, which was my first EV. and that car was truly nearly perfect. Not all the newest tech at this point, of course, as I owned it a few years back, but everything about it, including the infotainment worked very well. Only reason I traded was because of the small battery! I don't have any experience with new VW Golfs

[@trickshotish]

I have just bought the Mg5all good so far hopefully not as bad as the MG4 lol

[@siasek]

😄fingers crossed!🤞🏻

[@FallenAngel53]

My LKA has never been a problem 😅

[@paillart527]

@siasek: From France. I confirm, the LKA is a piece of crap, this sytem is even dangerous on country roads. When you forget to disable it at the beginning, you have to do while driving and it's dangerous. I know, the EU ask to turn automatically ON but they don't know how it works and how is not safe, we don't all drive on high way. Temperature like you said, have to set 5°C above what we really get. On the top list, I face the problem of the light of the infotainement screen varies by it self. I set at the minimum because it is too bright during day light and worse at night because the screen catches your eyes. Sometimes it comes back at any level it wants, not at the level I set. Also, the Epedal is not easy to access, so I don't use it. This sytem is useful in town, on road you don't use it. Why we don't have an easy and quick access thru the stars favorit buttons? Also no automatic side window closing when closing the car. The head light, full beam is just shit. Mine arrived not well ajusted so reajust them but even, they don't do a good job. My old Renault Master over 20 years old, show much better lights. To finish, the access to the fusebox is absolutely stupid, no door! I could put more, but right now it is enough. Yes I would rethink to buy the MG4 as before I drove a Nissan leaf 2020 for three years, which was so great, only the range was too short (40Kwh). Thanks for your video.

[@siasek]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience, it's interesting how almost every MG4 driver has a vastly different one! 🙂 I used to drive an e-Golf and now I have an e-C4, but I love the MG4 for the price/performance ratio, as well as stirring up the affordable EV market!

[@kevinmair7571]

No show stoppers. I get my MG4 TROPHY on 1 Sept.

[@siasek]

Great! There are many wonderful things about the MG4, so I'm sure you will enjoy it. Just watch out for that LKA, especially on country roads! From the feedback I've received it can be quite unpredictable and at times downright dangerous. 😬

[@mentezari]

You still have time to reconsider!

[@kevinmair7571]

@@mentezari 10 months old, no issues. Amazing little car.

[@trickshotish]

I’m not sure why anyone would want lane assist anyway . If you can’t see the lines 😢maybe it’s time to return your drivers license.

[@siasek]

I think it can be handy, like say you have kids in the backseat and you need to turn around to quickly look at them or something - LKA will make sure you don't drift off into a ditch. I would agree that one doesn't absolutely need it, per se, but it's a nice little helper, especially on long journeys

[@tommyjakobsen5504]

but also WHY isn´t there any Head light for passanger.. thats wired.

[@siasek]

Great question! I'd like to know as well 😄

[@andreweaston119]

We have had an issue from buying it. Cannot bind to the phone MG have tried 3 times to fix it and admit they cannot. We are trying to reject the car for replacement as we paid full price and gf is disabled The main reason we bought the car was so it could heat up and defrost whilst in the house and that cannot be done! We cannot see what battery is available or anything else the app does. MG finance response was never mind we will send you £50 compensation I think not.

[@siasek]

ugh, that's really annoying, sorry you're having to deal with so many issues! I can kind of relate as when I had my Citroen e-C4 the app just didn't work at all at first, but that's one of the basic functionalities you want in an EV! I finally got rid of it and am now driving a Renault Megane E-tech and really loving it. I do hope you're able to reach some resolution, either money back or replacement or SOMETHING! That must be frustrating. I wish you the best of luck and cooperation from MG!

[@johnnysidewayz6873]

Theres a bcm software update for door locks

[@siasek]

does it just turn off the automatic door lock after taking off or is it somehow customizable?

[@fraenqy]

Please keep us up to date here if any of the 9 things should change or improve over time. Thanks in advance

[@siasek]

I'll definitely keep an eye out! 😊

[@vergil5047]

These NCAP safety things are utter bull. Just because your car comes with the function doesn't necessarily mean it's safer, ESPECIALLY if the programming for said function is garbage.

[@siasek]

Agreed! And sometimes it actively makes the car more dangerous so... utter nonsense, as you say 🙄

[@aaalanwp]

Why on earth would you put up with any of these 'glitches'

[@Pippymint]

Sounds like this woman has never driven one of these cars let alone owned one. Feels like someone who’s tried really hard to fault. I own this car and love it.

[@siasek]

🤣🤣🤣 did you perhaps forget to read the title of this video? Or close your ears when I mentioned that this is a collection of complaints from owners on the MG4 discussion forum? What a silly comment. I'm happy that you love your MG4. As I mentioned in the video, most owners do, despite these small issues they have.

[@ijaznaimat7396]

Lame assists I turn off everytime I disable everything as lane assist is dangerous it does not help it's very aggressive

[@siasek]

I've heard that from so many people! it's ridiculous. Some have taken to calling it Lane Kill Assist 😬Several drivers have suggested turning the intensity to the lowest setting so that it's not so aggressive should you forget to turn it off before driving.

[@davidlewis7516]

I think she's got it in for MG cars.

[@siasek]

If by "got it in for" you mean I'm interested in them, then you are correct! 😊

[@realitynightmare]

Cheap car but value for money is unbeatable. The battery is 51kw 400V making current much lower reducing heat. The car comes with a charger but lacks things that I generally don't care much about. Other cars force those things on me. My Toyota rav4 was a POS in many ways. But everyone says how good it is cos the last person with rep said it was good too. I never thought I'd buy an mg but after being burned by Mazda n Toyota. I took the leap. My two biggest issues is the AC always blowing on my feet in summer and the stretch to get out the car. Other not a bad car at all.

[@siasek]

You're right, the price/performance ratio of the MG4 with the LPF battery is excellent. My video is certainly not meant to be an unwarranted criticism, in fact it more implies that the MG4 is actually a damn good car. Though of course it has its faults, but they're only minor. Personally, I'd like a Trophy version with an LFP battery like they have in Thailand, for example. Then it would be the perfect combination. But I think MG were worried they wouldn't be able to supply it, as I believe they would be swamped with orders from Europeans. 😄

[@AbramIbragimovich]

Я то - же сразу заметил разницу в показаниях климатической системы и реальной температуры . Привет из Испании .

[@siasek]

Yes, the 5 degree difference unfortunately seems to be persisting, it's a software issue.🙄 But there is still hope for another update I suppose. Greetings from Czech Republic!

[@yitzhakbohadana5102]

Set on the ACC and then TAJ will not be activated

[@siasek]

Others have commented that this one is mainly, hard to use in the city. Do you feel the same way?

[@ricardoshi839]

It's ok, it is in the English vehicle DNA to leak oil, its how they mar territory...😂😂😂 0:53 Piss taking aside, I've driven an MG4 base model and I was pleasantly surprised with how it was to drive

[@siasek]

So you're saying the oil leak is actually a feature... It all makes sense! 🤯 But yea, while the MG4 definitely has several shortcomings that I hope will be resolved soon, they driving feel is right on the money.

[@Fiatmannen1]

Tried one. Yesterday. Will not get one.

[@moragkerr9577]

The faults you got were as follows. 1. The oil leak. My car has never had that, I think it's a solved problem. 2. Temperature on the HVAC screen. I have this problem. I have to explain to my passengers that I am not trying to fry them. 3. automatic door locking. This is driving me insane, but the dealer said they couldn't do anything, even a one-time hack to fix it. I almost get a panic attack when I hear the doors lock, and it's worse because I know this car once had a recall because it was locking people in. I know it's not really locking me in, but that doesn't help. 4. Automatic lights. I have taken the cover right off the light sensor. This more or less sorts it, although it's still a bit over-eager. I have ordered a replacement sensor cover that has an open top, so I've still got my original cover if they ever do a software fox for this. 5. Can't pre-heat the CAR (not the battery) while the car is plugged in but not charging. (Why would anyone want to pre-heat their battery remotely from the house? I don't think there is a facility to do that.) So on a winter day you have to go out in the snow and unplug the car before you can set it to defrost and warm up. You might as well just turn on the heating while you're there, it completely negates the point of having a remote function. (There is a rumour there is a software fix for this but my dealer didn't know anything about it.) 6. Navigation doesn't show chargers. I have an SE so I don't have this system anyway. 7. Infotainment screen freezes. Mine has never done this and I think it might be a Trophy problem. 8. Radio always coming on. This is extremely annoying, especially if you've just picked up a passenger. Radio comes on, I hit the off button, but the startled passenger says "what was that?!" Needs fixing. 9. LKA always on. What is needed is a one-press physical button to turn it off. The manual says to turn it off if it starts pulling the car in unwanted ways, say on a rutted road, but you have to do about four taps on the infotainment screen to do that, with your left hand, while the car is being pulled into the ditch. Faults you didn't mention. Maybe episode 2? 1. Until software version R13, the SE had an external temperature display on the infotainment screen. Very useful. But the two subsequent versions (R13 and - I think - R21) have removed this. Lots of people hanging on to R13 and refusing updates because of this. 2. In the SE, the USB music player is rendered useless because it doesn't support folders/directories. It plays whatever tracks are on the stick in alphabetical order of track name (not file name). This is hopeless for longer works of music or plays, because everything is played out of order - indeed, if you have more than one piece of music or drama on the stick, it mixes everything up. The fix is to spend hours on the computer renaming every single file. I'm on 403 and counting. (The Trophy doesn't have this issue.) 3. When the car is put in SPORT mode, the indicator on the central screen flips to SNOW, although SPORT remains on the driver's screen. The car is still actually in SPORT. Not a biggie, but come on! 4. The speed limit recognition gets it wrong (by reading signs that are no applicable to the car or the road it's on) so often that it's not worth having. 5. The only way to turn on the fog lights is to hit a tiny touch-button on the far left top of the central screen. This is not a safe manoeuvre when you're trying to drive in fog. It needs a physical button. 6. The internal lights would disgrace a birthday cake candle. They're easy to replace with decent LEDs, but why would MG fit incandescent bulbs that can hardly be seen on an EV that's already festooned in bright LEDs all over the place? 7. The state-of-charge indicator bar on the home screen stays green nearly all the time, but occasionally flips to amber for no apparent reason. It seems likely it's intended to go amber at a moderately low charge and red when things are getting critical, but it doesn't actually do that. These are my gripes on the SE. You maybe want to ask Trophy owners about their LKA coming on all by itself when the central screen switches between light and dark modes (which it will do all the time if you haven't fixed the lights issue), or the HVAC screen only remaining visible for a couple of seconds when they press the star button, or the way their phones keep unpairing. (The SE doesn't have these problems.)

[@moragkerr9577]

Actually I forgot a couple of important things I meant to include right at the top. Not software issues, but hardware. 1. Many many cars (possibly a majority) are being supplied with warped or sagging undertrays - the bit at the back that covers the motor. The sag creates a gap facing into the wind, which is obviously bad for aerodynamics and fuel efficiency, and also presents a hazard going through water, or simply picking up road crud, salt etc, and packing it into the motor compartment. Owners are having a lot of trouble getting dealers to take this seriously and fit replacement trays where necessary. 2. Almost everyone reports that their air conditioning system makes quite a pronounced noise, though some describe a louder noise than others. There seems to be a fix involving regassing with a different grade of oil, but nobody is quite sure if some cars also have a mechanical problem with the fan. Again owners are having trouble getting their dealers to take this seriously.

[@moragkerr9577]

I should say that I am hearing various opinions that the four screamingly annoying faults that are only present in the SE, that is the external temperature display, the door locking, the USB player and the radio always coming on, have been represented by some people as deliberate downgrading of the SE specs by MG. I have even had people tell me that the SE was never meant to have an external temperature display (although of course it has the sensor!), and when MG discovered that it had been included by accident they rushed out a software update to remove it! What do you expect from the "poverty spec" model, they say. MG isn't going to give SE owners the luxuries the Trophy has! But the Trophy has all sorts of fancy specifications the SE doesn't, and these are advertised. These small software things, that cost nothing to implement, as you say, "why wouldn't they?" This is still a car costing nearly £30,000 in the LR version. In particular I can't see MG being vindictive enough to issue a software update to remove a (pretty basic safety) feature that was included by accident! Come on, MG, SE owners are your customers too, and we still paid a lot of money for these cars. We deserve a USB player that works, a radio that stays off, an external temperature display, and the ability to turn off the auto-locking.

[@moragkerr9577]

Oh, another one. The internal temperature display in the remote control app is all over the place. It's often significantly higher than the real temperature (but i have seen it lower), and it changes by several degrees within seconds on consecutive scan, even if the car has been sitting in the garage for two days. (Generally it seems to get closer to the real temperature.) It also occasionally displays a random 87C, just for the hell of it. Not that having the internal temperature correct on the app is important, the external temperature is the important one (and it's always right and stable), and you can easily estimate the internal temperature if you know that. But come on! (I have no idea if this is related to the five-degree over-estimate that the central screen produces for the internal temperature goal. Possibly not, because that is consistent, and the app's report of that temperature is not.)

[@siasek]

First off, I want to give a huge thank you for taking the time to write all this out. Some of this stuff is really baffling (the procedure to turn off LKA?! 🤨), almost feels like some mean-spirited engineer is intentionally making things more complicated than they need to be or... what gives? I read a couple comments from others regarding the undertray bulges, the AC noises (someone even sent me quite a nice video where an owner recorded them - it's unsettling to say the least 😄) and a couple other things. I will have to take some time to look through everything you've sent - it's more than I was expecting. Might be enough for a whole video series. Thank you again so much! I'll get to work and also keep my fingers crossed that MG wakes up to these issues and starts making some improvements ASAP🤞

[@moragkerr9577]

@@siasek The worrying thing is that much of it would be really simple to fix, but they just don't seem to be receptive to the idea that they should be doing that. They put a rear wiper and a centre head-rest on the newer cars, and frankly who cares. The wiper isn't needed and the head-rest will only be taken off until such time as the owner wants to carry three adults in the back. Which will usually be the tenth of never. But these were obvious things that prospective purchasers and reviewers were commenting on **before they bought the car**, and I guess they thought that their absence was putting buyers off. But you only notice the real annoyances when you've been driving the car for a little time, and maybe some people won't notice all of them - not everyone wants to use the USB music player, not everyone wants to turn off the automatic locking. But it's as if, once the car is sold, MG don't care if these things are annoying. We didn't know about them when you bought the car, and now they've got our money they don't care. The idea that it's **deliberate** that they made the USB player in the SE useless, that they **deliberately** removed the disabling function from the automatic door locking in the SE, that they **deliberately** made the SE's radio come on all the time, and worst of all that they **deliberately** intended the SE not to have an external temperature display *and then rushed out a software update to remove it when they realised it had been included by mistake*, all to downgrade the experience of owning an SE while saving precisely zero money, is absolutely insane. Isn't it?

[@oykkh29]

Great video 👍🏻

[@siasek]

Thank you! Happy you enjoyed it 😊

[@FallenAngel53]

Mines going back changing it back to a KIA 😡

[@siasek]

Were you not happy with your MG4? I'm sorry to hear that... did you experience some issues? And what KIA are you getting?

[@FallenAngel53]

@@siasek hya I think I just got a lemon with mine as I miss her but I got a kia niro ev 👍

[@TimBorg]

I think it is a LEMON the JDM NISSAN LEAF is ten times better in every way that matters like looks and reliability and safety

[@siasek]

Hey, it depends - the Leaf is a well-made car, but killed by their failure to update it - no CCS2 connector and Chademo is ending in Europe and being replaced at the chargers, no battery thermanagement, still only single phase on-board charger, no V2L or other modern technologies like wireless Android auto/Carplay etc. I can imagine specific uses for the Leaf, but it's not cheap enough to accept all the shortcomings. And the EURONCAP crash tests? Both cars are very similar, the Leaf leads in passive safety, the MG4 in active. 🙂

[@jimmiepoggin]

What do you mean Lane Assist is " garbage" Pretty meaningless

[@Rexbilly9819]

Deal breakers. Nope, I'm buying another brand of car. Just not good enough. Not going there. Was going to get the MG4 x-power, but looking at the Volvo EX30 or Hyundai Kona instead.