Sid Roth in 1972 Interview with Kathryn Kuhlman on "I Believe in Miracles"

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Sid Roth appears on Kathryn Kuhlman's television program, "I Believe in Miracles" in 1972.

[@meditate50]

I watched this program when I was a kid. My interest in God was just as strong then as it is now. My faith never wavered.

[@edelweiss211c]

genneral edmond what did you think of her then?

[@bamikai.w1383]

To GOD be the glory for your life. Keep keeping on in our LORD JESUS CHRIST. HE is always able to keep you going and strong both in life and in death

[@KFlifestyle]

Praise God for that.

[@lebogangmodiba9536]

Inspiring

[@ianfrancis777]

The fact it had such an impact on you that you remembered it as a little kid is very telling!

[@pklord49]

Lol, after 45 years Sid is still on fire. Praise the Lord 😊

[@nitopontocom]

and better than ever..!!! Praise God.

[@davidsamuel6018]

Amen. A forerunner of a simple man demonstrating the supernatural power of God in signs & wonders. An example for the Messianic Jews & Gentile believers lacking the power & passion for Kingdom advancement.

[@danielmann5427]

Stll making a buck...yeah he's going to be on fire for all eternity . It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God who is a consuming fire.

[@cnhueston6802]

@@danielmann5427 just don't get it do you

[@KD-ut4nz]

Sid is a water boy for the anti-Christian deceivers posing as Christian ministers !Wake Up people!

[@monajones6748]

I just love the way Kathryn Kuhlman delivers the Word. This interview with Sid Roth is life changing. So real, so genuine. Thank you Jesus.

[@janisrough5858]

Sid looks nervous and very serious. He is totally different now. How cute to see him only one year saved..

[@agbadutaabigailosasenaga7903]

he was only a year old in Christ then and considering the fact that he was sitting with Kathryn...

[@Micaela1527]

At first yes.. but he warmed up later.. yes he is different now - Micaela's mum

[@caswallonandflur692]

WOW ! What a dynamic woman ! Totally in Love with Jesus . Good for Sid It was probably quite an experience for him !

[@rebeccagutierrez1401]

@@Micaela1527 We all change with time and experience, praise God.

[@ellenadams7354]

Amen! We Love you Sid!!! Thank you for serving God! ❣️😇🕊️🙌💒😇🕯️🛐❣️

[@Yussufshaikhministries]

This is 50 years old video today Thanks for keeping and sharing this beautiful memories

[@txxxchao]

OMG! This video is precious! Sid still looks the same - the smile, the gaze, but his voice has changed. I think it's amazing how mature and deep his relationship with the Lord is after one year of knowing Jesus.

[@veydap1379]

Sid seems to have more energy as an older man than he did here as a younger man lol!!! God is amazing! ❤❤

[@johngilliam8843]

Laveyda Pearson You ain't kidding! Lol he's so laid back and quiet here compared with his current self.

[@cynthiaennis3107]

I think he’s a bit shy here being interviewed on tv.

[@ElizabethMac]

She has such a hypnotic way about her. He was reading her for sure trying to figure her out. At least it looked that way in the begining. God Blessed her but she is a little bit creepy to me for some reason. But I just push that aside and hear the message instead of the dramatics. :) She is amazing. I was thinking where is the energy Sid! But he was a newbie.

[@hupernikomen2015]

Elizabeth Mac idk why but something seems off about her. i hope im wrong. she seems nice. but maybe its the way she moves her hands ? idk.

[@sylvialeads555]

Laveyda Pearson thinking the same thing! But I think that happens as you see more miracles and increase in faith. He was a babe in Christ back then. What a testimony!

[@jewel7243]

I see why he uses the title It's Supernatural. I love Sid. My grandmother loved Kathryn but I never knew of her until years later. Thanks for sharing this message!

[@patriceenglish257]

Soooo.....this just blowed me away! 😱 I can’t believe Sid Roth was interviewed by Kathryn Kuhlman.😱

[@keciahutchinson4958]

I never saw anything but joy in Kathryn! That is the love of Jesus!

[@elizabethwanjiru5097]

Yea the joy of the Lord that comes only from having Christ as your savior

[@benstewart9482]

Or the joy of a mass murder?

[@TheGamingInvestor]

I've never seen such a lighthearted woman in my life.

[@nef003]

For the kingdom of God, is not meat nor drink, but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the holy Ghost. For whosoever in these things serveth Christ, is acceptable unto God, and is approved of men. Let us then follow those things which concern peace, and wherewith one may edify another. Romans 14:17-19

[@briceidaflores5572]

Kecia Hutchinson I want this she has

[@yellow.marisa]

I loved the PTL story :) And I also love it how there was no rush in the conversation. Like they were two old friends just talking. No commercials, no clocks... very calming and refreshing.

[@sonofjesus1464]

Her voice and her character is so heavenly I mean it's just so full of love and awe :'D

[@juliodelascas6215]

Oh my God! I'm so in love with the nature of Jesus 😍. She embodied that. So beautiful to behold this glory.

[@laura.haines]

Oh Sid. What a wonderful experience. To sit with such an anointed woman and share your testimony. Wow. Although you were a babe in Christ, you spoke with such authority and conviction. Here you are, 46 years later, serving God with that same fire. Thank you for sharing this.

[@karenv525]

Kathryn is so adorable, so precious in her lovely pure relationship with the Lord, I love her. And to see Sid Roth as a new believer at the start of his walk with the Lord and to look at his programs now and see how far God has taken him is truly inspirational too.

[@thewayoftruth-candyjoylynn7163]

AMEN! Wow Sid Roth only had one year in Christ here? That's awesome! To be interviewed by the Kathryn Khulman, what a great Honor! May God continue blessing him and his Supernatural Show.

[@nancyortiz1130]

She was a General for the Lord. Such humbleness in this women and how God used her. My God thank you Holy Spirit. I praise My Lord Jesus. 🙌🏼

[@leedatsit1799]

This is such a pure and honest testimony by Sid. Thanks for sharing it.

[@nutritionalblockbusters7690]

Katherine Kulhman had such a sweet Spirit. She can't stop smiling.

[@amazinggod9616]

So well spoken about the things of God for a 1 year old Christian! What a treat to be able to watch this still, thank you! :)

[@marypeaceprincess3819]

"I feel like I can't do HIM enough justice for what HE'S done for me." AMEN HALLELUJAH!

[@alexandremuhirwa1132]

I was thinking the exact same thing. SHE SAW BY FAITH HIS GLORIOUS FRUITFUL FUTURE. It's obvious from the joy radiating from her being. We're such a wonderful family. Glory to God our Father in Christ.

[@EPICBLASIAN1]

I met Sid Roth back in 1997 at his radio station. 😁 before The Internet days etc. Back when it was all about radio/t.v. - - He was VERY NICE & FRIENDLY, we only expected to see what it looked like inside, but he actually gave us a FULL TOUR OF HIS WHOLE PLACE & TALKED TO US, TOLD US SOME PERSONAL THINGS about what was going on etc. I was overwhelmed at how FRIENDLY HE WAS & WELCOMING. I got to see his recording room, they were actually filming something live, so we had to be quiet later, but it was AWESOME! IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. SID ROTH IS THE REAL DEAL..............HE STOPPED HIS WORK AT HIS DESK, he was super busy and took like an hour to spend with us ( My older sis, brother in law & me ) I felt the presence & the love of God throughout his whole place. * * * PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES ON THE INTERNET, SID ROTH & HOWARD PITMAN ARE THE REAL DEAL..... I have video & audio footage of Howard Pittman * 😇

[@thetruth4865]

EPIC BLASIAN Thank you. I appreciate Howard Pittman, also. His attitude was that of humility and repentance.

[@EPICBLASIAN1]

the truth Thank you for all the hard work you guys do! Listening to your radio program back in the 90s put a desire for the supernatural in my life. I was blessed to have an angelic visitation in 2003 which I never forgot... I believe your program helped steer me in the right directions back then. 😇

[@thetruth4865]

EPIC BLASIAN I meant thank you for posting. I am not affiliated with the show or broadcast apart from watching it. It was nice to hear your testimony. Please pray for me that I would fulfill my calling in His will and life :) GBU

[@EPICBLASIAN1]

the truth I will do that. 👍

[@sallytemple106]

Sid Roth

[@WillieStubbs]

Sid's beautiful smile hasn't changed in all these years.

[@janetkonyu4550]

So true

[@pattibullock3642]

45 years ago!! This is absolutely amazing..such a blessing to be able view this program!!

[@StephenHolmstock]

What a compelling interview... Kathryn Kulhman was different than what most experience in this world because she was so enamored and enraptured by the Love of her life the Lord Jesus Christ the Prince of Peace...she totally understood. Most who don't know peace don't understand Kathryn. Thanks for posting!

[@marke7443]

Enraptured

[@robbybobbyoh]

After seeing your FB post earlier, I saved this for tonight, upon coming home to my Times Sq apartment, rather triggered (yet again) about suffering past abuses as a child--Ms. Kuhlman's enlightened spirit and your calm conviction, Sid, ministered to my heart and made me come back to Jesus..."re-born" again. God bless you immeasurably.

[@bellagrace9812]

robbybobbyoh How beautiful. God Bless you.

[@thobisimoloi5438]

man, I'm so moved by this testimony, It really has touched my heart, Sid your testimony is so true, thanks for sharing

[@PrincetonBallerina]

Wow, it's so refreshing to hear a former stockbroker who's been a brilliant man of God all of his life. After all of these years, Sid still has a positive attitude, a thankful heart filled with faith, joy, and wisdom. May God bless you with much happiness, good health, and long life. Thank you for sharing a piece of history.

[@merryt5238]

Oh Sid how far you have come. Am watching this, one month into deliverance and also 31 years old now. I hope to keep the faith like you have done. Amen

[@brianlalor]

Now there is a beautiful piece of HiStory!

[@ElizabethMac]

SID!! Wow look at you! You looked great. You were a Newbie at one year in. I was looking up Kathryn and saw this and was like oh wow it's Sid!

[@roseworthem8426]

I wasn't too sure about her in the beginning, but I absolutely fell in love with her. That smile is amazing.

[@theresaedwards8568]

I get the chills and goose bumps over this type of anointing that was on Kathryn Kuhlman. Why aren't we displaying this anointing in our culture today. We are born again and we are anointed. Why is not the works of the Holy Spirit manifested in our society today? I love her

[@kofizayn6077]

That depends on where your from. Over here in Africa there are lots of prophets and wonderful men and women of God who have spiritual gifts and are advanced in the power of the Holy Spirit.

[@phyllislowe3942]

I have the same question. I am on that quest now.

[@llkuhlj23]

She was so sweet and gracious. Thank you for sharing this testimony.

[@ianfrancis777]

She's such a sweet, lovely, gracious woman of God. How so many trolls on the Internet can write horrible things about her (i.e. she's a witch, she's vomit worthy, etcedra) is beyond me. She is not here to defend herself, but Holy Spirit will.

[@averysimpkins2617]

llkuhlj23 sid look so handsome.

[@marlenebowman4081]

Ian Francis anen

[@bettinahayes5045]

It's so beautiful to watch Sid light up as he speaks of Jesus:) Kathryn truly was a beautiful believer in Jesus:) I love this interview:) It's all about Jesus:))) He can transform anyone from anywhere who genuinely is willing just for the asking:))) Great footage...such a blessing:)))

[@jadehunter7617]

She has a never ending Smile, Love that beems with Beauty.

[@ianfrancis777]

She just radiates love...so full of love.

[@newexodus20]

Shalom from Manila, Philippines. We just celebrated the Feast of the Passover or the Pesach last April 11, 2017 with our Messianic Congregation with a Jewish man from Tel Aviv. A day after that, half of my body developed an allergy ad it is so itchy and it hinders my sleep. My schedule for fasting and prayer this week is hampered, so I am watching this video to help me develop more of my faith in Yeshua, ha mashiach. He is our Saviour, the Atonement for our sins and our greatest healer. May God bless you Sid Roth and to all viewers. Pesach chag sameach.

[@shelly1928]

How are you now? Richly blessed I trust! ❤

[@cici2369]

Wow , this is the first time for me watching her and there is a great peace over me and l feel joy. She was indeed anointed and blessed

[@wesleyboateng7472]

I can't believe you were interviewed by the Kathryn Kuhlman.

[@dazbenpeter8311]

so incredible to see sids beginnings...............amazing...praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST.....ALLELLUIA ALLLELLUIA!

[@palomamia841]

Wow Sid what a privilege to have had the chance to meet her.😃

[@daughteroftherisenking3165]

Kathryn Kuhlman was a deeply sincere woman truly in love with God such a delight to watch thank you !!!

[@peaceloveriseabove2094]

Im just tickled with this! 2 of my favorite mentors together talking about our Beautiful Lord & Savior!!! 💜👑💜

[@jonmarretta2459]

I love they way she talks, she is from another time:)

[@cruzjmayra]

jon marretta not from the Holy Spirit! It bothers me .... it just doesn’t feel right with my spirit!

[@shakrazj]

@@cruzjmayra you are judging on appearances, which is not how God sees people. Look past her eccentric mannerisms, and listen to the words she's saying.

[@sandrapihlskott3262]

@@shakrazj In a program about her I heard that she had learned hypnotism. Would explaine the way she was speaking. Compare with hypnotists, they often speak just like that, with that rythem... Also compare with Benny Hinn who was inspired by her.

[@sandrapihlskott3262]

@@cruzjmayra Agree. I heard that she learned the "art " of hypnotism. And some hypnotists sound just like her. And it always disturbed me too, now i know why. Same with Benny Hinn who was influenced by her. Great testimony from young Sid Roth though.

[@cruzjmayra]

Sandra Pihl Skott yes, even Benny Hinn... they’re false prophets. We can only pray that our brothers and sisters don’t get deceived . But we must have the Holy Spirit to help us discern... and pay attention to minute 6:34 I believe she talks about the mind with so much enthusiasm... almost as if trying to get into SIDS ... Sid was filled with the Holy Spirit though. And he still is. God has brought him a long way. God bless my brother Sid :) he was a just a baby here. But so wise

[@lookfeelbehealthy6320]

What a great gift to see this interview from that long ago. Sid is still the same in the most important ways.

[@margieplano1273]

Wow... powerful testimony. I am blessed watching this.

[@victorgondwe7531]

It was amazing to watch Sid Roth and Kathryn Kuhlman talk with such love and conviction for Christ Jesus, I am blessed.🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@pdoll96]

I've always thought Sid's testimony was so powerful. I'm glad to see this interview though it's so strange to see Sid on the other side, the one being interviewed and so mild lol. This is a treasure. And what Sid said about reading the Bible and finding out what is actually Christianity, you see that so many things that have been done in the name of Christianity is really not Christian at all. Amen.

[@nik2blessed]

WOW! I love Minister Sid Roth! Great testimony and how amazing he has gone on to teach the gospel to all who would listen. Thank you again.

[@ginam8474]

Sid this is wonderful! I remember when Jesus had me backed against a wall because He loved me and it was a divine appointment to run to Him. He takes the desperate, the lonely, the heart broken, and the destitute and heals and restores us into who we really are in Him.

[@amberferguson7876]

very well said!

[@NikeyMel]

GM M Amen!!

[@missniss75]

Amen!!

[@ernestometer]

Sir, I must indeed say that your born again experience as at that time in the '70s was really great. Your testimony is one in a million for every Jew to hear of and believe in Jesus as the Messiah and the Beloved Son of God. Thanks for sharing this on KZbin and I am so happy to hear that graceful voice of Kathryn Khulman - she dresses like a heavenly being with her smile giving the face an angelic radiance. She was a woman of great spiritual substance.

[@roseworthem8426]

I just love Sid Roth and the messages that he gives to all of us. Thank you Sid.

[@mwakillowkay]

Kathryn Kuhlman was soo stylish; elegant and yet covered. Glory to God Almighty

[@pastoransonmaramon]

I just can't equate today's Sid Roth with this 1972 born again business man.. so much a change!!! I loved watching this video. It's vitalizing to my heart. Thank you Lord Jesus for Ketherin and Sid.

[@marielynn5234]

I SOOO LOVE Kathryn Kuhlman! She really knows the how to know The Holy Spirit! AND, I love your show too, Sid! Seeing you as a new Christian is beautiful! Thank you for sharing this with us! It is TRULY a Blessing!

[@annshee7884]

Wow, it s been a blessing to watch this interview. I m sure Sid never knew that after 45 years , He would have reached such a position and used mightly by God to set the captives free.

[@sherylbelovedsmith7679]

Awesome testimony and interview! The grace upon Sid Roth's life is amazing! He had a great and simple understanding and translation of the new birth after one year as a believer! God is so gracious and He is no respector of persons! hallelujah!

[@allaboutmycats454]

What a beautiful interview, thank you for sharing!

[@karlfalken3609]

Wow! Sid Roth and Kathryn Kuhlman together! Sid looks so young to me here. Great program.

[@winniekariuki6767]

your first love never went cold or lukewarm, still has the same fire in you. may God bless you Sid Roth as we wait for His appearance. .

[@Inthebeautyofholiness]

Kathryn smiled for 23 min and 33 seconds! She has so much joy!

[@yvonne9554]

What a classic gem ! Thanks for sharing this wonderful chapter of history with us all.

[@ksmlcisme]

That was so nice to see young timid Sid Roth and know how bold he is now. What a blessing! 💕

[@ByGraceIGo]

EXCELLENT video and testimony. So glad this came up in my videos!

[@BlueStarKeiichi21]

The words flow out of her mouth like a Shakespearean play. Like poetry. I am so mesmerized by her. Just beautiful.

[@maralkeshishian6492]

Wow, Sid new born again with very strong and deep faith in a fier !! God bless him even more!!🙏

[@juanitaquintana4531]

So lovely and powerful to watch Sid when he was younger and to know the story of his conversation…..no wonder ISN is powerful, miraculous and It’sSUPERNATURAL bec. Sid himself has experienced it. Truly God called him and gifted to do ISN….Praise the Lord (PTL) …Amen and Amen. Shalom!

[@ursulapsaila7771]

She's sooo cute and her smile is contagious !!!

[@nicoleestellatv9531]

I know 😃😃😃

[@hephzibahmakhetha4371]

For real!

[@shaunmaloney2940]

To me you look more youthfull and full of life now than ever before it seems. God has truly blessed you and you have turned around and bless others. there is none like you Mr. Roth and there will never be another! i hope i get to see you in heaven one day and get the chance to say thank you!

[@nancyjohnson5810]

I grew up watching this wonderful lady on my living room floor as a little child on Sunday mornings, she was so mesmerizing to me. I have been a child of the King for the last 40 years and I can say these days are the most wonderful times yet, for such a time as this, Jesus is coming back for his Bride soon!

[@tinacope90]

Awww! He was only 1 year old in his salvation ❤️ thank you so much for posting this! I enjoy watching both of them and to see this is just great!

[@ethanzm1091]

WOW! Awesome, awesome testimony. Praise the Lord!

[@farealwitit7947]

the star of remphan is satanic

[@David.ChristAmbassador]

Sid Roth thanks for your Humility and that is what has brought you this far, We Appreciate you so much

[@TheGamingInvestor]

I love Sid and God bless him! That woman is simply amazing. The grace and pure joy and honesty that she has is almost unreal, but God is amazing!

[@speedysteve5229]

Amazing. Who would have thought that Sid Roth is sitting in the interviewee's seat? so serious too. What an amazing life lay ahead for him. Priceless.

[@dorrisgeddes2758]

Sid Roth as a baby Christian and so young! What a great video..

[@lindastclair8587]

Thank you so much this was morning worship with a beautiful woman of God and Sid Roth you are fantastic!...GBU

[@backtoedencafe9406]

Wow unbelievable I never knew this it's awesome he seems so shy considering how motivational speaker he is today. I love this guy

[@mariemerimuluka8096]

It is such an honor to watch this great interview.

[@EstM13]

haha, the way Sid is looking at her....Thanks for sharing.

[@edelweiss211c]

Est Mus he really respected her and was nervous.

[@sherrytratum3362]

I met Sid nearly 40 years ago. I picked him up at the Atlanta airport and He interviewed me about the book I co-wrote titled Gods Miracle Child - the Britney Foster story. A few years later My oldest daughter and I went to church where Sid was speaking in Ga. After he spoke I asked him to speak the Aaronic blessing over me which he graciously did. I believe that blessing was the beginning of a my life as a Christian tv show host. I have now hosted an international Christian show for 21 years called Friends and Neighbors our of Atlanta Ga. To God be the Glory. I might add I also BELIEVE in miracles. Always have always will. Thanks Sid.

[@lydialuhigo]

😂 Sid's face is completely frozen looking into the great Miss Kuhlman's eyes. It's priceless 🙌🏾

[@user-ln6pu7kq9j]

Wow..this is so awesome. It's beautiful to see how far GOD has brought Sid in the last 4 decades.

[@nitahicks6936]

I remember seeing that particular show in 1972. I was shocked that a Jew would accept Jesus. That was the first time I heard of it. Seeing that particular show brought tears to my eyes. I miss Kathryn Kuhlman so very much. Thank you for the trip down memory lane.

[@comelordjesus7020]

Nita Hicks You are blessed to be alive then and saw it life. God bless you. Please make sure you make it to heaven so that you can see her again.

[@ianfrancis777]

Wow Nita Hicks, so cool to think you saw the original airing of this show in 1972! Did u watch Kathryn's program regularly? Ever attend one of her services? Wow!

[@Kelle0284]

Nita Hicks Why would you be shocked that a Jew would accept Jesus? The apostles were all Jewish.

[@danielsimpson6885]

@@Kelle0284 Out of all the ethnic groups on Earth Jews reject Jesus Christ the most, Jews have always from the beginning persecuted the Lords chosen, murdering some, even murdering Jesus Christ. Tell me what prophets did the Jews not persecute?? Acts 7:51-52 Jews have always tried desperately to provoke God to anger, 99% of all Jews from the very beginning even unto the day of vengeance that is poured out upon them at the 5th seal will always reject Jesus. Remember its the Jews that do all the persecuting even in these end times Matthew 10:17 Mark 13:9 Luke 21:12

[@Peacebestill27]

oh sweet Kathryn may ur beautiful soul rest on as we wait on the coming of our Lord. she was so gracious so full of poise and laughter. and sid roth seem so calm and calculated completely different from the sid roth of today. what a sweet marvelous interview and testimony. i learnt and felt something new. thank u for sharing

[@mikem591]

They had interesting synergy...Historic meeting in the Lord...She sensed things about him in the Spirit..It was interesting interaction...:)

[@passadonut]

Because she was a Prophet

[@maamek88]

my first time seeing Kathryn kulhman ,she looks sweet and angelic

[@ianfrancis777]

Oh you must do a search on her. She had the greatest healing ministry since the days of the apostles.

[@thetruthsetsusfree6789]

No wonder satan Transforms himself as a angel of LIGHT As DO his angels-messangers BUT ARE NOT!

[@jbtrailblazer953]

So awesome! You had no idea how the Lord was going to use you- praise God!

[@crossoverministries6387]

I thank God for Sid Roth. Wow so humble! Keep going Sid! Love you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@g.m.c.6606]

What a beautiful testimony Did has. He's beaming. 💕 I wish I could have met Kathryn too. A beauty.

[@Crazy20247]

I love your testimony, first time seen you as young man. God bless you and family. The Holy spirit glory to Him. ✝️🙌🏻🔥

[@lilianabatista9867]

The nurse who took care of her on her last minute said her room smelled like roses after she died. Hope to see her in heaven one day

[@truthwashed]

I have even much more respect for Sid knowing now where he came from and his beautiful faith in Jesus. He's so straightforward and genuine.

[@paul234884]

Good interview. Quite a serious young man here compared to the older, demonstrably enthusiastic Sid Roth.

[@kingstephen3164]

Sid is a soul winner

[@obbyuche8850]

Wonderful,thank you Sid Roth this is a blessing to me . God bless you.

[@onelove94441]

I already had a tremendous amount of respect for Sid Roth; it has only elevated!

[@StMaryBNY]

I was fortunate to attend to a Kathryn Kuhlmann meeting of First Presbyterian Church in Pittsburg in the spring of 1975. Wow - the whole church sparkled with the presende of the Holy Spirit, and people were healed in droves. The most exiting and beautiful experience in my life.

[@ianfrancis777]

Do you recall any outstanding miracles that stick in your memory?

[@ianfrancis777]

+Charles Maglaughlin ----- Oh man, you need to write a book, seriously. She had such a close relationship with the Holy Spirit and we could learn so much from her. Regarding her "adultery", remember that it was a one-time thing involving one man; she repented of it and it was all antecedent to her Pittsburgh-based miracle ministry, spanning nearly 30 years. It is still controversial whether or not she knew Burroughs was married with children before she fell for him. He did lead her on and possibly she believed a lie (that he was a single man) which was the only way Kathryn could lie. It is true that Burroughs eventually told Kathryn that his first wife filed for divorce from him, not the other way around. So she believed from a Biblical perspective he had a legitimate right to a divorce (i.e. for abandonment), and that she would not be sinning by marrying him. Correct me if I'm wrong in any of this.

[@ianfrancis777]

+Charles --- Yes, I of course remember one of the highlights of Jamie Buckingham's biography, when she received the Valentine's Card from Mister(not sure of the year, but I think in her later years). She buried her face in her hands and said, "You'll never know the price I've had to pay for this ministry". Jamie said he could have taken off his shoes the presence of God was so strong in her office when she said that. The thing of it is, she never believed that she actually took her vows, due to fainting at the alter. Didn't know about the extra-marital affairs of her employees. That is sad to know. I know she use to boast of how her ministry was kept pure and without any scandal lo all these years. Which catcher was having the extra-marital affair? Was it Donny? Is he still alive? I know she told Dino that he had better drop the nightclub singer he was dating and wanting to marry. "I'll not have a reproach brought upon this ministry," she would say. In retrospect she was right about Dino's fiance. Their marriage didn't last and they were divorced in 1985, I believe.

[@ianfrancis777]

+Charles ---- I hear you on divorce. But I thought there were the exceptions of abandonment and adultery. I too believe vows are of inestimable importance, even among unbelievers.

[@richardsloafish4881]

God is good

[@robinflea]

What a wonderful interview! So nice to learn your background and how cool to be interviewed by Kathryn.

[@josefinaescribano7467]

Wonderful testimony so refreshing today as it was back then