Sid Vicious: The Final 24 (Full Documentary) The Story of His Final 24 Hours

[@sirlink9611]

I know it's depressing and morbid to say but the fact he made it to 21 is a miracle. Sid Vicious was someone who was literally born with zero chance at life. It's a miracle he managed to make something out of himself. Only thing I hate is how he and Nancy are romanticized like they're some punk rock version of Romeo and Juliet. They were NOT. When you think of "toxic relationship", Sid and Nancy's is one of the first that come to my mind.

[@raphael9783]

Everyone is born with a chance unless you're born dead. Were the chances great, no. I started out a similar way, I'd seen death, physical crime, and other unspeakable things by the age of 6 and still became a teacher. There is no excuse.

[@zombie4skin28]

I think that’s what makes them a punk rock version of Romeo and Juliet, because they were toxic and self-destructive like the idea of punk

[@stanleykubrickk]

Lol you are all talking like he is a loser...He is the damn Mozart, Jimi Hendrix, Michael Jordan of punk rock and one of the most iconic faces of rocknroll! Someone would be a billionaire in todays music industry with an impact like his.His mom, his girlfriend, drug addiction, tendency to violence but also being fragile, style, attitude, didn't even see the 27 club, lack of discipline to learn an instrument, so on...These are all made him the greatest punk rock artist, the reason we watch this documentary. He is the definition of punk rock. Not everything in this life should be evaluated with norms of "what's good", " what's bad", especially something like punk rock. And yes Sid and Nancy is as iconic as Romeo Juliet

[@2sdd]

relationship based on heroin addiction has no romance in it XD

[@sylviabishop1586]

It was a very toxic relationship.

[@belindamartinez3985]

Sid's mother just sitting there while her son is overdosing and letting his "friend" deal with the situation as if it has nothing to do with her simply shakes me up.

[@sk8ercaligirl]

I agree with you. It’s creepy. 😳

[@baronsaturday9529]

Around 1996 Sid's mother confessed to the press that she gave Sid the shot that killed him. She said there was nowhere for him to go, he knew that too, and he wanted to be with Nancy. He would've got a long prison time, and she said something like, "where would he go after the Pistols and punk was over? He could've never done anything like Johnny Rotten and start a new band and new music (with PIL) Sid's a punk." And he was a self destructive punk, you can hear him say in interviews a few years before dying that he (and John) would be dead within 2 years. There's many stories of people who where there when Sid violently attacked people, and according to them he could have been dead or in jail a long time before..

[@belindamartinez3985]

I'd heard about that too, not that I agree with Sid's mum. For example: do you think Sid really still wanted to be with Nancy by that time? He already had a new girlfriend and had got one pretty fast after Nancy's death. Besides, Sid's upbringing is the first to blame for his self-destructive behaviour. If only social services had intervened in that home, things might have turned out very differently for Sid.

[@adrianw0w757]

She wanted him to die

[@valley_robot]

It’s a dramatisation, we will never no the truth

[@kristenflannery3092]

Sooo scary I overdosed and as I was my ex now was beating on my chest trying to wake me up, he said I was snoring, he beat me good I had bruises on my boobs and chest, but as I woke up got home sat down I wanted more it’s sickening, I’ve been clean 5 years now and soo happy about that, I wasted 19 years of my life on heroin. I’m 39 and trying to live my life as I should have been years ago..

[@spookshow6999]

You can. I have over 7 years. Stay in treatment. Get on Suboxone if you have to. Stay off dope.

[@spookshow6999]

Get the shot. Whatever you have to do. If you can’t do it without.

[@primesspct2]

I am so proud of you!! I've had so many friends and family that have struggled (or died) with heroin. As a family member it is gut wrenching to watch and feel so helpless; anything i tried never seemed to help. My nephew is now clean 2 years, and working and making good money! Yay!! If you had advice for family members when dealing with someone out of control and in the grip of addiction; what would it be?

[@Budsport_TV]

Congrats on your sobriety

[@Budsport_TV]

I have seven years under my belt, no pun intended. It’s hard each and every single day. Wish you the best 🙏

[@jailaw6223]

Prime example of “ Just because you’ve bared a child doesn’t make you a MOTHER” May they both be at peace now🙏🏾

[@newsing33]

Exactly. I'd cut my own arm off before I gave my child (my daughter )drugs, even if I was doing them myself.

[@mysticmink5104]

bore a child (not meaning inspire boredom though) baring a child is something else

[@Bettyboop08]

Stop blaming his mother. Kids/young adults like him do what they want.

[@emxilyk]

@@newsing33What if you knew that if not from you, your child would simply procure them from the streets? That’s the way in which many parents are rationalising and to a degree even justifying this. And it unfortunately has some truth to it. It’s an act of protection to them, really.

[@NaamahTherion]

Sorry, Mc Laren seems not very trustful person to me. He is a really shady person.

[@teerboyd]

Back when i was 16 thought this whole “live fast die young” thing was awesome and poetic. I was doing drugs daily and just completely destroying myself for no reason other than: “Who the hell want to be old anyway?” Now that im 22 i realize how short a life of only 21 years old actually is.

[@MrSpuzzz]

Yup. Just wait. When you’re 50 you’ll feel like you were young at 42

[@curtstevenson9447]

it's weird as you get older years move quicker... or the perception... and you've wasted 14 years being a fool....not always but in a lotta ways you know... what I mean.. could a done way better.. drugs feel good, but being older I regret doing it

[@annychest718]

What live fast die young thing ?

[@annychest718]

@@curtstevenson9447 Heroine doesn't feel good 🤮 It's a strong pain killer.. Usually from sexual abuse or kids taken.. Hopefully our mistakes count as lessons.. Self harm helps deal with pain.. If you can do that without flinching it means your strong and you are coping with pain (not) but that's the feeling of dumbness

[@MrSpuzzz]

@@annychest718 google it, it was a beatnik theme from the 50s that the punk subculture appropriated.

[@justicewillprevail1106]

With a mom like Sid’s, he never stood a chance.

[@Notmehimorthem]

And friends like his

[@ATXviIIIe]

Dad left when Sid was two

[@FiveSigma72]

Yeah yeah blame everyone around, take no responsibility for your own actions wah wah wah. Pathetic. How many people had MUCH harder lives than his and didn't willfully self-destruct.?

[@ATXviIIIe]

@@FiveSigma72 I agree with you. I was just sick of hearing how it was his mom's fault or the girlfriend's fault......and I pointed out that his dad left the family when he was two. But I should have added what you said.

[@glengamble526]

John Lydon says in his book that she gave Sid smack for Xmas one year.

[@itsjess1046]

Sid was surrounded by people setting him up to fail. So heartbreaking

[@pearmainstudios3942]

Its jess hell yeah

[@BarrywHiteFTW]

It seemed that the people he was partying with that last day were just aquaintances-not friends.

[@imaner76]

Or he was a viciously selfish coward who used drugs to hide and cope with an abusive childhood ending in a eventual upbringing that concluded in a compellability in the death of someone he loved that he could not envisage. There is no magic in smack heads. No matter what music they produce. But there is responsibility. The denial by the management. ALL OF YOU. That claim no responsibility. Fuckary. At best. Time does not heal. I'm not a Sid fan, I'm at best, anti smack head, on the flip side empathetic.

[@stevennowachek2657]

Bullshit

[@tottenhamhotspurish]

@@BarrywHiteFTW - Most definitely. I’ve came to realise that most of my mates, were not mates at all. I only have two good friends and that’s it.

[@kennethquintini658]

I've been seeing a psychiatrist for anxiety and insomnia since 1997 and belong to AA since 1986, sober 37 years now, I pray for everyone's successful recovery 🙏😀

[@ramblinralph7609]

His mum brought him into the world, and she took him out of it.

[@Mranthrowfist13]

well said fred!

[@tomseadon9965]

His mother was his worst enemy!

[@reesemorgan2259]

@@tomseadon9965 She was, but apparently she was let down by his Dad. As I understand it, he didn't support Sid or his Mum. I don't even think he acknowledged Sid as one of his children ( I might be wrong though .) That being said...Jeez...it's hard to defend a mother who'd give her child recreational drugs. Ultimately, she _really, really_ messed him up.

[@kellysims5732]

I bet a narcissist

[@shebamaree9026]

Kelly Sims please refrain from using that made up word!

[@desastermaster2010]

About 25 years ago I accidetally overdosed Heroin, but my buddys brought me back and told me, that I d sad to them :"Just let me die....!" Well, I m still here, clean and happy about it.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

There was a lad that used to worship Sid when we was kids. He was a right nutter. When he was 21 he killed himself to be like Sid.

[@jeacalvin8607]

Ur happy bout it? lol I’d be sad about that

[@BoboBobo-te5jv]

@@jeacalvin8607 you wouldnt want to make a habit of it but to be resurrected from sure death and knowing it can be a life changing experience. For the better.

[@djpriddin6211]

Great to hear you're clean and serene, Desastermaster!!

[@mywhychromosome]

@El Cruzer You still have to have all the motivation, strength, willpower required, which is a lot more than it sounds like...but it's certainly a powerful aid

[@geraldinekennedy9929]

I thought long and hard about writing this. I had my own issues with addiction - 'clean' now for 20 years on April 1st. It's a horrible way to live. Nobody wakes up one day and chooses addiction as a career choice. It eats you from the inside out. Everyone starts out with - 'it won't get me - I'm better than that'. Well, no, nobody is better than heroin. I am now a substance misuse recovery worker and love my job with a passion.

[@mauriceosullivan6832]

Did you have too train? How did you start?.

[@dianneking7305]

May GOD bless you so proud of your recovery

[@sofiaxyz6205]

Good for you! 👍

[@iaingreig9685]

Thats amazing that you turned your affliction into something positive.

[@rebels42wynn83]

CONGRATS GO OUT TO YOU!!!!

[@Digmer]

Im shook by how many of his friends survived into their 50s.

[@thebeautifulhobo1]

It's amazing the number of us that did.

[@thebeautifulhobo1]

Truly tragic the number of kids. that didn't.

[@josephtelegen8754]

Cannot believe the guy who bought him smack *that day* agreed to be interviewed.

[@23Dawnay]

He is still a user. His eyes are like pinpricks.

[@videogreats4442]

If Peter didn't, his mum would have.

[@upstating]

@@23Dawnay Literally my first thought, too. "Guess he never straightened out. Dude looks pinned."

[@hayleyburns.9384]

@2122, I bet if you were to ask him is he still using because his eyes were pinned, i bet he would say " it's the lights, it's the lights, that's what's doing it" 😁

[@markcarroll9943]

Why not....mc Laren did...more blood on his hands than most

[@blue4u2054]

This story bummed me out for hours! I couldn't see Sid's life turning out any other way. He had no father, no siblings and just a dysfunctional mother. He didn't stand a chance.

[@SkaterChick1972]

💯😥

[@debraghbrown3079]

I have lived with exactly same , please believe me there is hope 🙏

[@scruffy281]

@@debraghbrown3079 I totally believe there is hope. There is ALWAYS hope. We all have a choice in life. Always. God Bless you Debragh Brown for being strong and making the right choices.❤

[@dylandavos9645]

Ive seen many come out from these type of situations. I just don't think Sid wanted to live. Im a firm believer he killed Nancy with her permission then killed himself in a suicide pact for her.

[@johnwhorfin5150]

well there is another way lol. look to the left , look to the right and look to the left again or ya might get hit

[@spacetimeworm]

This is not the easiest thing to watch for a heroin addict fluctuating between junkieism and sobriety.. Much love to anyone suffering... ☝️♥️

[@americanwomenstayawayfromm5420]

Much love? It’s their choice. I resent my brother for hurting me

[@TheReaper42069]

Amen

[@nahthenlad2706]

Keep strong pal I've never touched the stuff but everything else is abused pills speed weed definitely alcohol acid. But when I had sniff it was a game changer and first pipe it was game over

[@allthingsrealwithh-beezy5931]

@@americanwomenstayawayfromm5420 sound like you need a hug

[@traceymasonperry9302]

I'm going thru this now with percocet. It's horrible. I'm losing everything 💔

[@rachelmartin3631]

If you need something uplifting after this tragic story watch "A Street Cat Named Bob". Bob, the cat, actually saved his human's life from a lifetime of drug abuse.

[@hisfavworstnightmare]

i loved that film, the book was better but it’s still a moving story

[@jenynz5334]

Thank you so much for recommending it. I was going down a very depressing hole to have watched this terribly sad video about a member of a band I didn't even listen to. I am a former h and other addict, so I had a morbid curiosity. But what I really needed was the most wholesome cat video I could find, thanks to you. I hope you're doing well.

[@rachelmartin3631]

@@jenynz5334 😃Your welcome. I love the movie, the best part is the young man continues to improve. You can find him on instagram.

[@rebels42wynn83]

Even though I was a little girl around the time when the punk era was emerging, I can't help but feel so sorry for both Sid and Nancy because they were 2 very tortured souls. My dad was 42 and had died of a heroin overdose as well.

[@novakvukasinovic3941]

May your dad rest in peace :(

[@rebels42wynn83]

@@novakvukasinovic3941 Thank you, Love 🙂🌈💝.

[@masterofpain120]

Im sorry for your loss. May he rest peacefully.

[@rebels42wynn83]

@@masterofpain120 Thank you for your kind words!!! continue to be safe and strong during this madness.

[@jackycook64]

I am so sorry. A very painful loss and very painful watching someone you love fight and lose battle with addiction. May he rest in peace.

[@tomg5187]

What a gloomy gloomy life. So dark, so dingy. Just awful. Thank you for this incredible watch! I just hope one day we can see addiction for the disease it is

[@carmenr93]

Just awful, hey? I needed a debrief with my dogs after watching this. Ppl need to accept that addiction is a disease - no one chooses to live like this

[@joeyjohnson4826]

Oh and active drug addicts love it when you feel sorry for them. They will use you, and take you for every penny you got. They're too selfish to feel bad about it

[@joeyjohnson4826]

One more. The United States Congress declared alcoholism a disease in the 1930s. It is recognized by the US Health Association in the government of the United States as a disease. Addiction was also included in this in the 1970s. The essay written by the doctor doctor silkworth is found in the Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. It was declared in the United States almost a hundred years ago. It changes nothing

[@americanwomenstayawayfromm5420]

Carmen R my brother chose it. And happily to

[@tomg5187]

@@joeyjohnson4826 I was in that position in life. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever overcome and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I’m glad the people around me didn’t pity me, didn’t allow me to slip but also stayed by my side and supported me through thick and thin. My morals still wouldn’t allow me to break certain barriers with those I love, an addict is an addict, a shitty person is a shitty person. The two aren’t mutually inclusive imo

[@kts5920]

The amount of rock stars that died in their 20's, in the 70's and 80's is absolutely 🤯

[@herbieburbie]

Mid 20s -prefrontal cortex develops, a person is expected to be a 100% self reliant adult. Its the second life crisis if puberty is the first.

[@g.h.7661]

This idiot was not a “rock star” lol

[@DizzyD1693]

ᏆᎢ'Ꮪ FᏌᏟKᏆNᏩ NᏌᎢᏚ

[@ThatGuy-eu2vt]

@@g.h.7661 This idiot was one of the most well known stars in the punk scene and still is, he was most definitely a rock star.

[@benwesley5260]

It absolutely is emoji when you think about it.

[@istrumguitars]

Most eye-opening look into Sid Vicious’ life I’ve ever had. This poor guy was a victim of circumstance, right down to his name “Vicious” being the complete opposite of who he really was.

[@tru5562]

The name vicious was used as a joke, it was the name of Johnny Rottens hampster, J.R. gave it to Sid

[@eileenbradley9838]

Uhm...he tortured and killed cats, blinded a woman, attacked journalists and regularly beat up his girlfriend. He was pretty vicious actually.

[@wrldelos]

@@eileenbradley9838 yeah literally…he’s the complete definition of “Vicious” .

[@texasray5237]

You really are what you become. Anything else is what you used to be.

[@jonesfamily4326]

@@tru5562 The hamster was called syd not vicious.

[@Sameoldfitup]

“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams.

[@maureendevries1904]

"Can't put your arms around a memory"--Johnny Thunders, formerly of the New York Dolls

[@yungdodds]

The most beautiful thing about art is that it always lives on years later

[@UmSureWhatever]

I lived the party life.. Hard. For almost 10 years. And then I fell into heroin. I'll never forget the day I had my best friend at the time start turning blue in my back seat. Luckily someone in the car knew CPR until the ambulance could arrive with Narcan. I'll never forget how he looked in my eyes in a daze as if he was just pulled back from death, dead man walking, how he just looked like he wasn't supposed to be alive. That's the day I started to truly hate heroin. Party days are over. I'm getting a lot of help and counseling as well as have a family of my own now. I've lost too many friends in the past to that shit and it just wastes you all the way down to the soul. We are lucky to have the treatments we have these days that saved my life and so many others. The rest of the world doesn't understand unless they've been hooked what a true devil it is and seeing Sids mindset in this documentary is like seeing an obscure mirror of my past self.

[@sonjadodson4091]

I’m so glad you made it out. Be proud. The struggle is real everyday. Find one good loyal person to lean on and don’t beat yourself up. I’ve got other demons, mental. But another day above ground is an accomplishment.

[@deedeeforeverand1day.]

Glad you got out of that lot . Always have a good friend you can talk to and help you . Surfing will help you a lot . That is my bit of advise

[@89visionartistry89]

This is why I always carry Narcan. 4 years sober and still always have it on me. You never know who you’ll run into in need.

[@maynardferguson9599]

Very glad for you to get clean and a new way of life. God Bless. I grew up in the 70s and did my share but didn't dabble in H, thank God. Take care and good health to you and yours.

[@anamaria-zo5ym]

A hell of a life.Where could he be now?

[@markhaberman8408]

With friends like Sid had. Who needs enemies

[@angelagendreau3586]

Yeah, his 'mother' wasn't much better. Biologically she is his mom but she doesn't act like one.

[@deanna5853]

@@handler65he was young? Why so much hate?

[@leyla.007]

@@handler65 i want to be around with Sid and help him to survive! I don't blame heroin in his dead, i blame people who surrounded him back then! Even his new girlfriend did nothing 😔 she saw his mother was going to give him another dose but didn't stop her!

[@groggydoggy6730]

What a massive fail. All his friends and his Mother failed him. Big time.

[@rainiedayzproducestand6693]

And he failed Freddie Mercury....Did was a no good pos

[@hopemccubbin8661]

You missed the point. He was part of an environment. People arent there to serve you.

[@groggydoggy6730]

@@hopemccubbin8661 they served him. Drugs.

[@MJBclassics]

What? He failed himself. How can you blame anyone other then him? That's saying a lot about you.

[@groggydoggy6730]

@@MJBclassics bite me

[@bsaunders5271]

Aside from anything else, any sadness I feel about his life and death, I hate him for strangling the cat. No excuse for that, not even being smashed on drugs. To do that there has to be something cruel in a person's character, smashed or sober.

[@rebels42wynn83]

I remember seeing another documentary on him and Nancy. The guy who was one of his closet friends had mentioned that story. I was just in disbelief and shock.

[@jenniferjackson1699]

I think that too xx

[@toiletpaper5770]

You just like cats

[@bsaunders5271]

@@toiletpaper5770 I DO like cats, I also hate people who hurt animals.

[@soxpeewee]

He wanted to kill his mother and took it out on the poor kitty

[@jazzerzzz22]

I OD twice when I was using, I'll be 4 years clean in June. The first time my bf beat me to get me up, the second time we were home so he put me in the shower. The next day I packed a bag for my 3 yo son dropped.him with my parents and locked myself in the apartment for 2 weeks to get clean. Second hardest thing I've ever done.

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

JazzLP1225- Good to hear. Nice to know some people do save themselves from this.

[@sonias7295]

Very proud of you. 😘

[@curtstevenson9447]

pretty woman

[@sheldonhatch8255]

God bless!!! You deserve life

[@christinethuo6840]

I'm proud of you

[@jayse1834]

she gave him life and she took it away. how sad and insane RIP to both lost souls....

[@ingride3719]

Oh,yes,so heartbreaking 😢🙏

No such thing as "rest in peace", bro... The torment goes on after the body dies, especially for drug addicts.

[@mxfelps]

​@ You dont speak for God. You're a merely "anyone". Respect others opinions.

[@piscesloveempress]

@ Are you God? How do you know this? Drug Addicts for the most part are NOT bad people. You aren't God you cannot say they are or not. So shut up and get a life. Seriously.

[@Alexa-wc9fi]

@ you're no one to say something like that ok. The tables will turn on you

[@sandraruijs5172]

I had met Sid in 77, in my home town Amsterdam. He was a very nice guy. R.I,P.,my friend.

[@baileyclark8483]

You can't be that nice if you kill an innocent animal.

[@Dzanarika1]

@@baileyclark8483 oh, yes, you can!

[@giadac.8677]

Hey, do you have any anecdotes to share with us?

[@micahrutland9021]

That's what's so sad about all this, I believe Sid was a very nice person with a good heart.

[@antongra5951]

This is the first time I’m hearing this story, and the first time my heart genuinely broke watching a documentary.. i hope his soul is finally at peace.

[@IchbinSchalker]

A person's soul who took drugs most part of his life and took another person's life can't be finally at peace.

[@IchbinSchalker]

@Hammurabi Trust Anyway, even if he didn't kill Nancy he was very troubled soul, he did a lot of bad things and he didn't know God and His word, so he lost his soul and therefore he can't find peace. It's very sad, but it's the truth.

[@davidn.211]

Sid Vicious does indeed rest in peace. And he even got to be with Nancy, in a way. According to Wikipedia Sid's ashes were scattered on Nancy's grave. I agree that his story is a very sad one.

[@leehunter4759]

He was facing life in prison after murdering his girlfriend this was no doubt suicide

[@jamesian-allen8725]

He'll never be at peace...and his suffering is with out end. The world is better off without him, and better off without his mom and better off without nancy. I've zero empathy for any of them.

[@deanbrandt2748]

John (Sid) never stood a chance growing up with a mother like that. Very sad. R.I.P. 🙏

[@ID-8491]

He was completely devoid of free will??

[@Wizzz28]

"Hope I Die Before I Get Old" was our motto back then - Live Fast, Die Young

[@ThEFREeSIDeSCUm]

My mom bought heroin for me A few times when I was younger. She did everything she could to help me but she just didn't like seeing her son suffer. My mom loves me but sometimes parents don't know how to help.

[@sc0tte1-416]

I hear that. Hope all is good now.

[@CannabrannaLammer]

She probably didn't want you to die from withdrawals or something. I hope you're well now. What made you become addicted?

[@sc0tte1-416]

@@CannabrannaLammer You can''t die from heroin withdrawal it just really sucks.

[@josemera4167]

@@sc0tte1-416 if your're young enough you can

[@taylorevangeline3339]

I can relate 🙁

[@lauratroxel24]

I feel alot of sympathy for this young man. It's a real shame how he is remembered.

[@glengamble526]

Don’t. He was given tremendous advantages-fame, some money notoriety and name recognition-industry contacts. He could have carved out a career for himself but he bought into his own false image. He wasn’t a nice person by that point.

[@nelsonx5326]

@@glengamble526 I think the fame and money was due a great deal to the behavior that killed him. He was being himself. His addiction was real and serious. I see the tragedy in his death, and life, and I don't care for him or his 'music'.

[@nelsonx5326]

Yes. When you see he was just another frail human it is sad.

[@R_S747]

He was a violent asshole who tortured and killed animals and couldn't actually play bass or write music, there's no actual positive way to remember him.

[@milessmith6611]

Goddamn, he never even had a chance. The universe is a cruel place, because there are so many people like Sid. I'm 21 years old and fortunate enough to have been raised by a loving mom basically my whole life. To have the person you trust and love most in life also bring that much pain and dependancy into your life is something that could never be undone. Especially when that person feeds you the only relief to the pain whenever you wanted. What a shame that he had the absolute worst of circumstances. If he had any real lifeline or positive influence, maybe he could've turned out alright

[@evathespeaker9537]

that's the point. People come from a vast array of starting points, yet everyone assumes all persons should end up well-adapted to society naturally, when most times it's the most unnatural thing to expect. THAT's why we have psychopaths and rebellion, it's because there are DIFFERENCES in starting points.

[@TheJpep2424]

Jesus is Lord. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

[@rogersmith8257]

@Randi Szöküld I went to basic training there drafted Oct 19 1968

[@novo611]

No proper support for him Universe can be really cruel.

[@simonefoley1441]

@@evathespeaker9537 Hi

[@shannonmcneely9034]

I'm a recovering heroin addict myself and I've been clean and sober for over 5 years n is. One thing I do knows is once you shoot up. You nod out for hours . Getting rowdy at the bar after drinking is normal but once you mix the heroin and booze your going to pass slam out. The two will either kill you it knock you out when mixed. He wouldn't be able to kill her. . Is like being asleep And slightly awake it the same time. You will be talking to someone and you will nod out right in the middle of a sentence. Your not bouncing off the walls your going to be layed across your bed or on the floor. Heroin overrides coke and speed if its good and strong. I'm sure he has accesse to really good stuff so he more than likely was asleep almost immediately. I don't think he would have been in any shape to kill her.

[@huntermalan1413]

I can't fully appreciate this documentary. Addiction is addiction. Rich, poor, sane, and insane alike get the same slice of the pie when it comes to suffering.

[@nataliepearson5295]

Totally agree! All this mercy killing bs! They lead a life of drug addiction. The mother was meant to be his protector! She is responsible!

[@mirjamweibel9678]

@@nataliepearson5295 difficult to say. No other people can do something. I know it die myself. Have the same problem. Not mine but some mothers are really afraid that the child makes something criminal or sell their body etc. To buy drugs and because of that they give their children money for Drugs because they don’t want the child doing something criminal and visit them In prison or sell them their bodies etc.

[@nataliepearson5295]

@@mirjamweibel9678 yes I do understand this but I think his mother was responsible for this lifestyle to begin with. She should have got herself clean if she wanted to raise a child or hand him over to family or Foster care for a better life!

[@nataliepearson5295]

@poop mcpooper it’s still a choice whether to break away from it or not! To get help or not!

[@ianoian1]

I can go all the way back to the 'Summer of Love' when we all got stoned, tripped out, got loaded and partied like there was not tomorrow. The vast majority of us moved on. With Sid, he got caught up in the punk scene during the 70s, got addicted to heroin, and it was like he never wanted this life . . . it was self-destruction based on heroin!!!

[@savinghistory642]

He was quite young also. I am not the same person I was at 20-21. If he had lived he would probably have eventually realized to straighten up. But God had other plans for him.

[@Kiya-me]

So sad to see how drugs and alcohol ruins people's lives.

[@TheJpep2424]

Sad that everyone knows that and still choose to do it.

[@croissant4131]

alcohol is a drug, just like nicotine

[@gregmarshall2513]

Why do people abuse alcohol and drugs? Answer because they can’t cope with the everyday boring aspects of living.

[@fourleafcloveer5011]

I think it was his mother that ruined his life.

[@tasmaniandevil7610]

Moving up in the world getting a raise is enough to get that fix ruining family friends acquaintance . never feel like a accomplishments put you into buying deadly drugs

[@savinghistory642]

44 years ago today we lost Sid. I still miss him. I keep my inner punk alive just for him.

[@andyhelliwell4955]

I think about Sid every year on this day, and I listen to a couple of his songs.

[@kailoren908]

I too

[@clicheguevara5282]

Honest question: What do you miss about him? He was a complete dumpster fire and had no musical talent. What did he offer to anyone? As a musician from a family of drug addicts, I have _tons_ of empathy and sympathy for the guy. My mom got my brothers hooked on drugs, so I understand Sid deeply in many ways. ..but as a musician, I just don't understand what there is to "miss". What did he actually contribute? Many of my musical idols were train wrecks who died from drugs - and I miss them. ..but they actually gave me something to miss. IMHO Sid was just an edge lord who couldn't even play his bass. All he was was image.

[@savinghistory642]

@@clicheguevara5282 I hope I can find the words to help you understand. It was the late 70's. Kids still lived under their parents rules. There were consequences for breaking those rules. Most homes had a father who made sure things went along smoothly. Doing well in school was not an option, two parent homes were more stable, police were the authorities, teachers were the authorities, parents were the authorities and we toed the line. When we got together and listened to the pistols, we felt free to let go of all the things we had to obey when around the authorities. We smoked pot, drank Boones Farm wine and acted out our version of feeling free and invincible as we perceived the Pistols to be. We did not commit any crimes or bother anyone else as we were usually somewhere on the lake away from anyone else. Then we went home to our safe lives. It was an escape. As an adult, different rules control my life and I have different obligations. I guess I miss my youth and the Pistols were a big part of it. On the other hand, I do not miss John Lennon at all. He was the ultimate phony. Does Yoko still keep a floor full of their furs? Just full of himself. I especially love the Queen;s 25th Jubilee gift the Pistols gave her. God Save the Queen by the pistols was the second song I taught my grandson when he was 4 (after the National Anthem). He is now 28 and still enjoys them. I may not have given you a satisfactory answer but I miss the freedom of youth and the Pistols represent that to me. Since he died at 21 he is frozen at that age. I get older. He never will.

[@savinghistory642]

@ciao214Z Sid and I were born 6 months apart so yeah, I am of Sid's generation.

[@guitarpro248]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who listens to Nancy at 24:09 and instantly thinks of Courtney love and kurt Cobain

[@Liverpool5095]

Courtney styled herself on Nancy. She was obsessed with the whole Sid and Nancy thing growing up. She apparently tried out for the movie they made about Sid and Nancy but didn't make the part.

[@chipsthedog1]

If you ever get the chance read a book called 'And I don't want to live this life' it's by Nancy's mum and its an amazing read although quite harrowing at times. It tells her story from Nancy being born right up to Sids death. She doesn't blame Sid for her daughters death, I mean she knows he did it but in the book she makes it clear that Nancy was on a self destruction course right from an early age. Nancy put her through hell again and again but she never stopped loving her and trying to help her it really is a heart wrenching story but such a good book

[@xdef1ne]

@@Liverpool5095 she’s in the movie

[@ishtarbabylon4869]

@@Liverpool5095 She was in the movie as nancys friend Gretchen

[@christopheradiaz5767]

Courtney wasn't any support for Kurt he needed help really Bad and Courtney didn't help him poor Kurt could have been saved I guess courtneys own career was more important which is just a cop out on her part she is a sad excuse of a human being karma will come back.her way Rest in Peace Kurt.

[@mandireardon1501]

I think Sid was the founder of duck lips before everyone started doing selfies with duck lips lol

[@craigasaurus2025]

True. Sid was talented. I tried to do the "Duck-Lip" snarl in the mirror and its not easy to do. Only Elvis did it a well as Sid. Also try to jump up into the air, kick your legs apart and land, all while playing the bass guitar. Not a simple feat. In one interview Sid says that one night, while playing the bass, a broken bottle zipped past him nearly taking his head off with it. Some punk-rockers had it rough back then. Not all fame and glamour. We have regressed since as a society, though. If I tried to wear a swastika shirt like Sid did, I would catch, "Holy-Hell", from my family and friends for trying to make a statement. When asked why they dressed and looked the way they did?, Sid and Nancy replied, "BECAUSE WE LIKE IT." The Duck-Lip is one of Sid Vicious' signature looks. They had more, "balls", back then than most people have today. I love it. R.I.P. Sid.

[@craigasaurus2025]

I just recently found out that the psuedo-punk rocker, "Billy Idol", also ripped-off the "Duck Lip" from Sid Vicious.

[@peterlittle4357]

@@craigasaurus2025 He stole that jump move from Dee Dee Ramone 🤣

[@breannebellezza9755]

He was a sweetheart and a character that Sid Vicious.

[@dadycreations100]

ahahah! lol ..

[@gcroller93]

The dude that says that sid copied him self harming sounds far too proud about it 😂

[@pedrinhosangrento]

That was kinda weird lol

[@jeffhouze8124]

Mental health is no joke. When you compound the illness of a drug addiction on top of what he has gone through in his life and has experienced and the pain that he carries, nobody without a mental illness would be able to even live another Day but those of us with these type of sicknesses have to drag on. We often tend to love others more than our own selves. That's what keeps us putting one foot in front of the other and sometimes that's all we're capable of doing. It's not fun to be a drug addict or an alcoholic. Most people could not walk three feet in our shoes, let alone a mile.

[@spoils2873]

I’ve beet heroin and crack addictions. It’s possible to get clean and live your life

[@Gypseygirls]

Totally...just embrace the withdrawals.....

[@mrcontroversy222]

@@rogieru8796 exactly

[@andycorzine720]

Till a youngen offers you 2 for 15 💭😂😂😂

[@Hfgv281]

Such an inspiration. Congratulations to you on reclaiming your life and light.💫

[@jitteryjewels8358]

But you still cant spell.

[@TheImprovised]

Was his mother INSANE?! I would never in a million years buy my sons heroin. I just can't imagine what she was thinking.

[@AUTOPSY666]

He was nothing but garbage, she did the world a favor.

[@sandravekic443]

@@AUTOPSY666 exactly

[@nadyarossi5102]

She was a greedy, depraved, pathologically self-centered, degenerate. A useless parasite.

[@slimmidge3124]

this ex manager is the most untrustworthy seeming person, I've ever seen.

[@bobburger6485]

I know he seems the most dangerous becuse he evil and smart

[@breannebellezza9755]

Exactly. You both are absolutely right.

[@Mi1aE1ise]

Conniving to say the least

[@breannebellezza9755]

@Sodham G'morris Did you mean McLaren is a textbook sociopath?

[@novo611]

Mc claren was a user Did not care for anyone else but himself.

[@drofnats1962]

His body wasn't craving his fix, his mind was.

[@micahrutland9021]

Almost hard to blame him. Going thru what he was going thru and what he dealt with in prison.

[@emilywright3454]

He probably would still be withdrawing if he was only in prison for 4 days as the worst of heroin withdrawal lasts 3/4 days but the whole withdrawl lasts a week metadone withdrawls last a month though

[@Screw.Hairy.Pothead.666]

​@@emilywright3454 he was in rikers for 50 days,he'd be out of withdrawals

[@Janellabelle]

I personally would still have some physical withdrawals at just 1 month into sobriety. I actually had physical withdrawals for nearly 6 months at one point. I would cold sweat and get the goosebumps for no reason and just constantly exhausted but yet, amnesiac.

[@jacquelinewilliamson8933]

She wasn't a mother she was an addict who used her son's money to get high , they were all complicit in his death .The guy never stood a chance in life but ultimately she was to blame.

[@patricklonergan3]

Poor kid. He didn't stand a chance. The way that certain people saw him only as a means of making money and used him until he was dead was terrible. He was just a child.

[@samfanson8939]

When he said “we just beat up Nancy I gotta be honest” I was rolling😭he’s on smoke for his boy😂😂

[@dessie6857]

"HELP! I'm being kidnapped by the sex pistols!"

[@powerfully_confident1739]

@@dessie6857 😂😂😂 emphasis on pistols right lol

[@ncr1998]

Shit had me geeking bro😂😂😂

[@Hfgv281]

Time stamp

[@powerfully_confident1739]

@@Hfgv281 starts at 31:37 hahahaha 😁

[@scubacloset142]

The way they talk about Nancy, judging her for just being a woman, while glorifying Sid, is damn messed up.

[@jonmoore7712]

Overdosing British: “make a cuppa tea” US: “he needs a glass of milk” 😂😂

[@darlenemichuk124]

My Mom was British from Inverness and Drummadrocket. Said She went looking for Nessie across the Loch in a row boat. The Castle on the Loch Bank was thought to be keeping Nessie there. Loch Ness is considered to be bottemless from so many caves. Result could not find the true bottom. Anyways The Castle was thought by Nessie to be it's mate. (MATE) is why she never left. Nessie The Loch Ness Monster. Mom told me she would play in the Castle and row boated with friends across. ..........The Loch looking for Nessie. Mom told me in the newspaper was a thing. Medical Doctor saw Nessie crossing the road. In the news paper. Mom says he was known to tip a few. Great story Huh? Real True

[@arich7823]

@@darlenemichuk124 can you explain this...? lol

[@fotisstylos6983]

@@arich7823burn out

[@artszy8184]

I didn't get it 🙄

[@LBPbrrr]

It’s just “ He need some milk” not “glass of milk.” We aren’t that proper

[@MariaRodriguez-xq4bk]

What a depressing life rock stars live

[@rockybarzini8786]

I think its cool

[@jesuisuncroissant443]

@@rockybarzini8786 Rather be death than cool

[@rockybarzini8786]

@@jesuisuncroissant443 Deat is cool !!

[@Firusdhf]

He’s not a rockstar

[@jrex3]

They were already depressed. How can anyone claim they are depressed when they have or can have anything they want.

[@pierreedmundo7991]

07:00 Love how the lawyer still defending him decades later. I want that man if i ever get in problem with the law!

[@wildmike85]

Shit man, hire me and I'll make a statue of you

[@danielsmith9476]

@Love or Leave! stfy

[@estefanysmith6]

well that's his job lmao

[@boundO_o]

You cant afford that man

[@TheCleaner76]

It was Sids knife that killed Nancy, he killed her

[@vivienbailey8079]

In my eyes his mother killed him. What a despicable evil woman😢

[@nancygreene5838]

Thank you for the upload of this documentary.

[@tiffinwonderland7243]

And with No ads!!!👍✌

[@kingofthebongs858]

Love how they said sids mum diddnt get him hooked on heroin when there is literally a interview of jonny rotten saying that he remembers when they were at sids mums house on sids 16th birthday, his mum went on to give sid a set with needles and a little bag of heroin, for his birthday, so bs wasnt it his mum, she was always on heroin

[@clipsby_elibeth]

Everyone around sid was bad for him, including ALL these people, all of them.

[@brianwalsh1401]

They all had their issues as well. It seems they tried to a degree but he had to want to change and that would have required him to get out of that mess for starters. He was a lost kid that never had a real parent.

[@anthonyhutchins2300]

Okay but you could say he was equally bad for all of them lol

[@222HelloGoodMorning]

His mother was the #1 bad influence on him and because of that he attracted bad influence because that’s all he knew and got from his mother so he thought that is all their is for him. His mother was not a good mother at all!!!!

[@tinamitchell7496]

@@brianwalsh1401 none of these people cared for Sid at all beyond what being seen with him could get them. So many lies told in this dramatization.

[@tinamitchell7496]

@@anthonyhutchins2300 except that Sid was the only one of them that died right (excluding Nancy obviously), so not exactly 'equal'...

[@MrMcNeillNZ]

I feel so sorry for him, it would be the most terrible feeling in the world not knowing if he killed the woman he loved. I've been to that place before, waking up after a drug binge not knowing what I'd done. I thought I was safe because I was with my fiance, it wasn't until days later that i found out he'd literally pimped me out to at least five other men. I had hoped at that point he had been in that kind of trance and not known what he was doing but he admitted needing to get "us" more meth 😢 Saddest thing Is it took me two more years of physical abuse, to the point that I was near death that I finally left.

[@snoo6]

Im so sorry you had to go through that I hope things are better for you now

[@MrMcNeillNZ]

@@snoo6 You're so kind x Things are getting better. Where are you from?

[@R_S747]

He (your ex) knew what he was doing. All abusive men do. I'm sorry you went through that.

[@jess-cj1hb]

Proud of you! ❤

[@jucat60]

Heroin is a very powerful pain killer. He would have been in so much emotional pain no wonder he just wanted to get wasted. Just a tragic story..

[@narcovice]

bare and tilenol is a pain killer with out the high

[@feartheliving8195]

@@narcovice its an “emotional” pain killer

[@stevebuscemisarm8927]

Yeah theres studies that show painkillers even otc ones can aid in emotional pain

[@HighExplosiveDualPurpose40mm]

Reach down deep and grab a pair .. all the queens damn children are looking for a crutch, free pass and the path of least resistance

[@marcief.8165]

Damn are y'all trying to say Tylenol, Bayer, and Ibuprofen ?????? Spell check !!

[@jamesgfraser439]

A miracle he survived as long as he did.

[@chipsthedog1]

Seriously if you are interested in this do yourself a favour and read the book that Nancy's mum wrote. It's a harrowing read but we'll worth it. It starts with Nancy's childhood right up to meeting Sid and her death. She doesn't blame Sid, it really is a touching story from her pov she put up with so much from Nancy before Sid was ever in the picture but never gave up on loving and trying to help her daughter. It's called, "And I don't want to live this life"

[@robinmaynard1640]

An incredible book that helped me parent a child like Nancy. 40 years out and he is a wonderful adult.

[@chipsthedog1]

@@robinmaynard1640 That must of been difficult and I salute you for never giving up, there is nothing stronger than a parents love. Also reminds me of a quote I like... The people that are hardest to love often need love the most.

[@robinmaynard1640]

@@chipsthedog1 so true. BTW, he was/is so worth it.

[@jadeshannon2272]

Yes I read the book

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

yep. read it a long time ago it's really good

[@nute-i_1O1]

Every children deserves a parents but not all parents deserves a child....!!!

[@saarapollonen8138]

It's interesting these "friends" don't really seem to care much

[@Fistfury42]

30 grand (back then) bail..

[@saarapollonen8138]

@67psych3 I've read that myself before. Extremely disgusting. He was totally disturbed person by design. The punk movement was all planned too. Brainwashed dummies.

[@lepanhman]

In that world real friends don’t exist

[@joep7586]

They were all drug addled children, and it was 35 years ago

[@MassNssen]

@@saarapollonen8138 Planned by whom?

[@DereBear]

“We wanted him to stop the heroin so we beat up his girlfriend Nancy” I’ll be sending for the hospital bill from the whiplash I got

[@HolmWrecker]

The entertainment industry is a soul eating machine.

[@rogerauger7766]

Freddie Mercury dubbed him, "Simon Ferocious" before ejecting him from their recording studio. LOL

[@craigmapel1415]

Heroin is a scary drug. I tried it one time & over dosed. I was already drunk & heart was racing from doing cocaine all day. My cousin tied me up & told me the heroin would bring me down. As soon as he shot me up & untied me the feeling of peace, comfort, warmth, freedom hit me. I Instantly started turning blue & woke up in the bathtub to my roomates dad punching me in the chest. I took it that one time & I was itching for it for at least 2-3 weeks. It scared me something that good could take ahold, damn near killme & still wanted more. I knew I had to stay away from it, but I longed for it. That was July 23 1997 night of my 20th birthday & last time I ever touched any drugs. I've been clean for 24 years.

[@Girlshushyourmouthtv]

I read your comment it sounds like a very scary experience. I am so happy you still here with us. Thankyou for sharing this deep and heartfelt story.

[@ramblingbootsIRL]

That manager is a proper weirdo

[@chrisenda9463]

He died quite recently

[@pbanks1176]

Just posh people just posh

[@skylerhu9146]

I feel sorry for the pet Hamster. No one else really.

[@subzero308]

The manager used them all for money simple as that.

[@seriously.....]

My dad had made millions and smoked coke with my younger bro. My brother went downhill in a vicious spiral while my dad was spending the last of his fortune on tons of coke which they trucked all over the county by snowmobile and four-wheeler and dirt bike. My bro has been reported missing since june1st of 2019. I suspect foul play given the lifestyle we all were living in the end of that era and i fear we never find him certainly not alive but probably won't find where his body rests either. A shallow grave deep in the woods of Northern Maine by the hand of someone looking for revenge for whatever reason. The old man and my bro were the best of friends and partners in crime. It seems a relationship like that between a parent and child never will end well.. i m 39 and clean for the first time in my life as is my dad at 62 years of age. He is tortured over my brother being missing and believes he is alive somewhere however my brother has come to me many times and I know for sure he is gone 💔. If only we had held onto each other the way we held onto drugs maybe things could have turned out differently.

[@Liverpool5095]

Wow, Im so sorry for your tragedy, man. Wish you all the best.

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

COLE9500- Glad to hear you are clean but *your dad is 100% responsible.* My buddy Dave from high school is in prison because *his dad also got him hooked.* I'm sure his P.O.S. dad is NOT tortured like yours is. I hated is dad.

[@Li0nX]

Should write a book. Crazy story

[@joanneo.6955]

@COLE9500, first off - Congrats to you on your sobriety! It sounds like you've been through a lot of pain. Where did your brother go missing? Can I share his info, in hopes that maybe someone has seen him, or knows his whereabouts?? Thanks, and stay strong!

[@seriously.....]

@@joanneo.6955 thank you I appreciate you asking. We are from Northern Maine and this is where he was reported missing from caribou up in Northern Maine. Feel free to spread the word to anyone who will listen !!

[@jockybrown187]

His family and friends let him down badly

[@sylviaparraz6963]

@67psych3 why r u commenting this on EVERY thread?? Did u find that cool or something?

[@Freetown00]

@67psych3 Damn, if that’s true then I’ve lost a lot of respect for him

[@Freetown00]

@67psych3 Yeah, I know that it’s true now,I saw two documentaries I was always interested in Sid Vicious but I never looked into it until now for some reason. I’m trying to learn more about punk bands now, I kind of hate him but I’m also interested in him for some reason

[@Freetown00]

@UC3x98V6_r4e9COVyU1JqIgQ Well he painted an image for punk bands and he was a part of it but I’m just trying to learn about the punk music culture and what people who listen to punk know about it, I’m sure most people who listen to punk know about Sid Vicious

[@davidn.211]

@67psych3 put a sock in it

[@NyxInfernal]

I almost died myself at 21 from the same damn drug. Initially, it was a teenage rebellion thing, but it turned into a lot worse before I ever realized it. Especially since I was allergic to whatever's in the stuff, it almost suffocated me to death. I was fortunately one of the lucky ones that got through it all and came out the other side. 7 years later and it's like it was a different life entirely.

[@smokey3570]

well done

[@porchahunt8679]

Amen too you.

[@snoo6]

Glad u got through it

[@noelliebtsie]

It's sadly very commonly the case that kids "inherit" such destructive habits from their parents. Honestly, I feel that parents shouldn't be left in their own little private world without anyone checking in and caring when help is needed. There should be such thing as community. I think the Punk movement was in large part a reaction against an uncaring, money-driven society. The youth felt disconnected.

[@katkenobi6765]

Shitty parents, shitty society, NONE of that is an excuse for becoming a JUNKIE. There are tons of people with worse lives who managed to not become a loser junkie.

[@destroymalefeminists]

and we still do.

[@blmagic2563]

Bull shit.

[@kingayy9267]

@destroymalefeminists Nothing has changed for the better.

[@gostrum1]

He successfully created a Rock and Roll persona for himself. He invented a new dance ‘The Pogo’ As McLaren pointed out the audience were mesmerised by him. He could have ditched The Pistols, formed a new band and been widely popular, Unfortunately some poor judgment getting with Nancy and taking heroin was his undoing. Still massive intrigue surrounding him.

[@homodeus8713]

"The second amount wasn't that much. ... You know, he was fine."

[@pk6810]

These people are straight crazy aren't they?! imagine giving the guy you've just revived from near death another hit and then giving the rest of the 90% pure heroin to another heroin addict to hold onto like they are going to listen. Unbelievable.

[@megaphish]

The real blame for his death is his mother. Period.

[@rebels42wynn83]

I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE .

[@SkaterChick1972]

💯

[@emildelapena979]

i blame nancy because she is the one who introduces heroin to him first, then they doing smack together til they both fall apart.

[@ojj3340]

Is himself.

[@user-mo3ue1to2o]

That "friend" should be ashamed to even have offered to do an interview.

[@habiiiij2627]

Things people do for money

[@caninecurry5823]

Supposedly his mother gave him the rest of it after his "friend" left. I dunno, it's a messed up story, he was a kid, with no self control and had no one to tell him no.

[@dazauto1400]

You can't have Sid Final 24 without Peter Kodick the guy who supplied the fatal fix!

[@thumperpaul]

A good read is “And I don’t want to live this life” written by Deborah Spungen, Nancy’s mother. That girl was messed up from day one, her and Sid wre were a perfect storm, they deserved each other. It was sad, the impact that this relationship had on the Spungen family.

[@jpollackauthor]

That book is filled with lies and exaggerations, according to several of Nancy's friends. Her mother was a wack job - pumping your three-month-old infant full of Phenobarbital - a drug used for lethal injection in some states - because she's crying too loud? You'd go to jail for that today.

[@phoebevaughan5095]

Everyone should read that book - Nancy was a drug addict but she was still their child/sister, and a very unwell woman. Nancy doesn't deserve the hate she gets - RIP Nancy.

[@BloodofaFool]

Its eerie the similarities between the relationship between Sid & Nancy and Kurt & Courtney. The way the endings played out are just all different.

[@geoffreygill5849]

“The adults in a child’s relationship act like models” -smart psychOlOgist guy 🧠 thanks again, wouldn’t have known otherwise

[@Simoneslegs]

They used a 45 year old guy to act as sid at 21. Lol wtf it kept having close ups of his eye wrinkles. Was there no young kid they could have used?

[@Jae_hX]

he was 21 not 12. Also a junky. Ive known junkies at 18-19 that looked like they could pass as late 30s. Sorry you didnt get the child to play the part for someone who wasnt a child

[@Liverpool5095]

@@Jae_hX Dude, he was like 21. The OP merely made an accurate statement. Look at actual footage of Sid, did he look in his 40s to you? He clearly looked a guy his 20s regardless of his addiction. Also, with depressants such as heroin in particular, it's actually known to stop the individual from looking older in many cases. My friends sister for example was a heroin addict from 20 to 25 and she's 29 now and literally looks no older than 19. It's more Meth and crack that make the individual look older, stimulants drugs like those. Depressant painkiller opiates like heroin tend to do the opposite.

[@Randompotatoes-qs7bm]

@67psych3 sick 😷

[@watovit]

@67psych3 holy shit wtf

[@charlieangkor8649]

@67psych3 I'm happy he's gone, when he tortured a cat to death for no reason.

[@tatjanaarandelovic9555]

Thank you for this really brilliant documentary about Sid. I never thought that Sid and Nancy were a punk romance, but she just wanted someone of the Sex Pistols and cause Johnny didn't want her. Next one was Sid. Already in a toxic relationship with another woman- his mum, who introduced him to drugs, there comes Nancy and brings him straight onto heroin. She was toxic as hell, too. He never stood a chance. Not knowing if it was him that killed Nancy, the break up of his band, the fear maybe going back to Rykers. To much for the gentle soul he actually was. But his mother didn't have the right to make this fatal decision for him In the end-Sid is in a much better place now. God bless him xxx 🙏

[@funkyterrance]

Kinda dumb they use like a 40 year old guy to play Sid.

[@hgreen8666]

Nic Hoult would’ve made a good Sid.

[@AnonymousQwerty]

I think he’s 46

[@agent2608]

in 36:45 he looks EXACTLY like Sid

[@evandegenfelder4554]

This is sad beyond words. I grew up with an out of control alcoholic mother who was absent emotionally and physically---lots of chaos and instability. But this is plain awful. What kind of mother does this?

[@fernand_ducci]

Couldn't get someone who doesn't have curly hair to play Sid.

[@nyk3334]

You kind a look like Sid Vicious.

[@Annastesia19]

He was cute though, the actor playing Sid

[@maggiemolly111]

laziness

[@shelbeepollino9008]

I’ve always thought that Sam Rockwell could have played Sid in a movie when he was younger. I think they look a lot alike and Sam is great at playing wild and crazy characters.

[@Tiber234]

wow - that the take from a serious documentary about the life and tragic death of a man

[@JeffTheHokie]

Nancy wasn't the one who got Sid hooked on heroin. Johnny Rotten remembered Sid's mom giving Sid a bag of heroin and a needle for his 16th birthday. That was LONG before meeting Nancy.

[@cliffordmckinley6900]

Been thru this a few times myself...Only my higher power that has got me thru clean & sober now.🙏

[@speakthetruth995]

Higher power? Almighty God Yahweh? Hallelujjah Praise God.

[@wendyburgess2962]

Thank goodness. What a sad existence this poor Lad had. A sad story indeed.

[@SantoshSharma-rq1cl]

So true*

[@picksydust7678]

Good for you. 👏👏👏

[@Tobynsocks]

Amen... remember to give yourself credit tho my man. He may have helped but ultimately be proud of your ability to stop

[@brittanywells1840]

Terribly difficult to watch. , as it is so heartbreaking. Thank you for uploading though. ✌

[@sylviaparraz6963]

@67psych3 what's ur deal?

[@laurendobbs8941]

This is so sad. Who else is maybe watching this on Halloween 2020?

[@sarah6557]

👎👎👎👎👎

[@kikidee3204]

Me xxx

[@livianegidius9772]

@@kikidee3204 ME

[@CiroDiMarzio909]

@Lauren Dobbs This is Sid Visciuos with - Its the Final Countdown tiediediedie tiediediedie its the final coutdown whooohooow We're leavin' together But still it's farewell And maybe we'll come back To Earth, who can tell? I guess there is no one to blame We're leaving ground (leaving ground) Will things ever be the same again? Its The Final Coutdown by Europe 😀😆

[@styga1969]

Couple days late .... but I'm here watching the video. ...... Sid was a sick puppy in his day... crazy on stage!! When he was on stage he turned into an entirely different human. Johnny Rotten fitting right in and this why they will always be remembered as the best punk rock band in history.

[@craigdesarno]

good documentry !

[@AnonymousQwerty]

That actor looks literally nothing like Sid

[@kennybegeske8824]

Gary Oldman

[@danensor2762]

who tf cares about that?

[@sistrenyogigal3813]

Everyone is so chill about Nancy being dead 🥴

[@shashaskowndrel5308]

They're all like "good riddance"

[@sistrenyogigal3813]

Every time I watch this I’m like 🥴

[@aaliyahfurtadoxoxo]

@@shashaskowndrel5308 I shouldn’t be laughing 😂

[@xlectraheart]

nobody liked her

[@giadac.8677]

Which is wrong..

[@ValentinaStJohn]

The surviving original punk rockers are now suffering from osteoarthritis due to the thrashing and writhing. Ouch.

[@ValentinaStJohn]

@Sadie Smiles Everyone eventually feels it with age, but this is a more pronounced version. I'm sure your gonna respond with another smart ass comment because you were alive during that time?

[@The_Salty_Siren]

🤣

[@marjoriegoodwin2993]

I read the book which Nancy`s mother wrote. It was worth the read. Nancy`s mother was not angry at Sid, since she knew that Nancy wanted to die, and begged people to help her do so. Poor Nancy was tormented from the moment she was born to a loving family which tried their best to help her, to no avail. Sid and Nancy actually loved each other. Don`t ask. Find the book and it will answer all your questions. Very sad all around.

[@roseannes335]

I don't think Sid killed Nancy. He was too messed up to do it, too drugged. There were plenty of other people wandering the hotel halls off kilter who could have done it, since they weren't as incapacitated. I read Nancy's mother's book, & I recommend it. She thought there was something wrong with Nancy from Day One psychologically. She thought some people were just off, & it had nothing to do with how they were raised. Nancy's mother suffered a great, great deal throughout Nancy's life.

[@nadyarossi5102]

I have always believed that Michael Mourra, aka "Rockets Redglare" & a fellow drug dealer, killed Nancy and stole the thousands of dollars Sid had lying around in that seedy hotel room. Sid was too zonked on Tuinals to have done anything but sleep.

[@divusaugstus]

SId’s story and that of many other opiate users especially those coming out of prison is why Narcan should be freely available in every country - it’s a life saver and cheap. For those who don’t know Narcan is an agonist that instantly reverses the effects of opiates. Yes, the user loses their ‘taste’ temporarily, but they don’t die. However, depending on the dose of opiates the person needs to be watched after Narcan as the dope can come on again.

[@leoa4c]

The problem is that if you make naloxone widely available, people will be even more inclined to OD, given that they can rely on naloxone as an insurance. Addicts lose, forget and misplace things all the time. So, I don't know if it would have an overall positive effect.

[@Scottocaster6668]

@@leoa4c Exactly, it will give them the green light to keep using. Not a good idea really. 👍

[@afri-can7739]

Let them die. Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay over and over so they can get the good shit in the arm

[@Guinevere.625]

@@afri-can7739 nice to know you’re the judge of which lives matter and which do not. You must be proud.

[@HomoLegalMedic]

@@Scottocaster6668 they're going to keep using regardless. It's an addiction, not a desire. If we follow your methodology; we should not give blood pressure medication to obese patients, inhalers and chemo to lung cancer patients that used to smoke, physiotherapy to athletes that damage a limb. Self infliction isn't a valid reason to deny someone healthcare.

[@scrappyxla5404]

They say today’s rappers are the dead rockstars of that era. All of em on drugs and Overdosing

[@LionQueenn]

Never heard this...but yes their all dying young. Crazy!

[@scrappyxla5404]

@@LionQueenn I definitely have. Older rapper are calling rapper like future and lil Wayne the leaders of it. Listen to the music.

[@albred5051]

Trappers nowadays call themselves Rockstars and Rapstars for a reason..

[@LuLu-zg6ct]

@@scrappyxla5404 I’ve heard of this! Dropping like flies in the rap game. Lean is their drug of choice. Codeine is in the opiate family aswell. Same bodily process. Morphine.

[@subzero308]

Yeah but at least the ones in the 60s and early 70s had real talent while they were taking drugs. These new pop stars r trash. Mainstream rappers don't exist anymore. Now its all garbage only good rappers r underground or older 90s rappers. These new trash r only used for an image.

[@polyxenaschwarzova8744]

Quite good documentary, thanks

[@galactic_socialist]

Younger folks don't understand what a dark and distressing time the 70's and 80's were. I was only 8 when sid died but I remember it was a really depressing time to be alive. I remember the newspapers gloating that he od'ed what was life like then?the post war positivity of the 50's was dead and the 60''s dissolved into the manson family and america was looking like a war zone.. It's no wonder drugs were such a problem Also... did that lady say jerry only was There?

[@sharonh2991]

I graduated high school in 1979 and started life as an adult in 1980. The party scene at that time was hellacious and fun as all get out. It was neither dark nor distressing. It was a great time to be young.

[@peterlittle4357]

@@sharonh2991 I loved it. But we all had our own experience x

[@aspiringnormie9499]

Jerry was friends with Sid and was present at the party that night. Misfits have been tearing it up since the jump.

[@sashatallyse539]

Try growing up today 🤣🤣 we have to go to school worrying if we’ll get shot down like ducks, living through a pandemic, constant news through our phones, unregulated internet access seeing isis be headings at age 11. We never get a break now days at least back then you never knew the news until you saw that paper.

[@thehutch7728]

Leslie Johnson I’m jealous. I was a child in the 80s and “Just say no!” was drilled into me HARD. Now that I’m 40 I wish I had tried some drugs in my youth. Lol Of course, it’s so hard to get drugs to work for me now, I wonder if they would have had any affect, or if I would have OD’d trying to feel something.