Side-effects of doing VERY long runs in Noita

[@benjackson7690]

Skipped touching grass and went straight to electro-shock therapy

[@J0hnB09]

It gave you the opportunity to touch grass, but when that failed, electo-shock therapy.

[@jrm78]

It's very fitting that if you wait long enough, the game simply Noitas itself.

[@0l...-]

Over time, liquids and objects lose motion, stars freeze forever, and even the most agile of creatures are frozen in place. The world is on the last stage of its path. In another ten thousand y̶e̶a̶r̶s hours everything will finally collapse, turned to lightnings, and even the Eternal Sorcerer's body will twist into an immovable line. Now it is clear what the Sorcerer is looking for in the endless dungeons - a way to stop the end of all time... Or at least to leave with dignity.

[@5uperM]

Sounds like the plot of Loop Hero.

[@metholuscaedes6794]

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die!

[@Xx_Zyper_xX]

when the game cant break you so it starts breaking itself

[@xrom7151]

For anyone curious that's 414 days and 6 hours of gameplay

[@bbittercoffee]

To make it turn into Lightning and back again it's 828, which is 2 years and 4 months of STRAIGHT NOITA

[@stereotypicalguy420]

@@bbittercoffee normally sane noita player playing for 2 years and 4 months straight

[@orfanclub6288]

1000h is about a months of gaming

[@ngwoo]

It's those last six hours that really start to drag.

[@Jennykruck]

They never had to fix these bugs because they kind of just assumed you would have died by then

[@Boxell_o7]

Actually, your most recent video introduced me to the game and inspired me to get it! I have no idea what’s happening in it, about 20 hours in, and I love it so much. Thank you!

[@nonstopbison]

@@Boxell_o7 Welcome to the Noita world

[@kapsaysin]

I still have no clue what’s happening 200 hours in hehe This is easily one of my favorite games ever 💖

[@sengoku_fin]

It's a mysterious cult in itself. It helps a lot if you know things about finnish folklore and mythology, but most of that is lost to all but finns themselves. They're not the point either. I'm a finn and i've had 40 hours, and i can't say what's going on either. Last time i checked the little green men in the undergrowth didnt have shotguns

[@ToyKeeper]

A little part of me dies inside every time I see someone using a floating-point number to count frames and other integer units, especially for purposes where what they really needed was a modulus operation to make something cycle periodically. Like the spikes in Celeste and the liquid animations in Noita. It's not hard to make sure that sort of thing works _forever_ instead of breaking as soon as a number gets too big.

[@averagephlogfan6475]

Something similar happens in serious sam

[@jonaut5705]

yeah but at the same time, that's not really necessary, and a general rule is to only add something if you need it. Considering how it only causes extremely minor visual bugs for the most part until you get into the hundreds of hours, I see literally no problem with it tbh

[@ToyKeeper]

@@jonaut5705 I might have an uncommon perspective, given that I make programs and embedded microkernels designed to run for years at a time between reboots. In that context, anything which causes degradation over time is completely unacceptable, even if it's slow.

[@bengoodwin2141]

​@@jonaut5705it isn't really adding something though, it's just doing the same thing in a different, better way, with no extra cost.

[@christophermoore6110]

Why change something that 99.99% of players will never notice? You are absolutely not supposed to stay in one run for a thousand hours

[@nolhan555]

For someone like me who loves this game but does not have the patience to seek the crazy secrets, this channel is a gold mine. Please continue this world and your discoveries, you're insane !

[@COWHATE]

"Come on ya'll, commence the jigglin" - Liquid at 72 hours in

[@СавелийИванов-ш3м]

Theory: this is all intentional. The universe of noita is being destroyed by a great cosmic being and the good ending isn't actually the good ending, because after 9999 hours it will all turned to lightning anyway, we are just trying to make our last 9993 hours nice and peaceful. If we spend enough time in a world, the 35th orb will appear and give you the super secret eyes in a cauldron ending. (I'm saying this half unironically)

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Could you imagine if something actually did happen when you were in the cauldron when the world turned to lightning? That would mean that the developers wanted the players to discover this glitch, either manually adjust the in-game timer or, god forbid, wait for ten thousand hours, only to die/soft-lock in the cauldron to get a new part of the puzzle. That would be insane

[@dzuchun]

imagine world turning into a lightning was a reference to heat death theory. namely, it predicts that final state of the Universe is a stationary photon mess.

[@vishipsherrah]

I knew about the water entities, but did you know what there are toxic sludge entities in the vault? And three flammable gas entities at the gas pipe structure in the frozen caves, one of which has more hp than the other two

[@Tarkov.]

I'm curious if the water drip entities are duped by you travelling around so much to parallel worlds with your travel wand, maybe they somehow got brought with you.

[@rantingrodent416]

I don't think they are being duped, it's just another periodic process that's ticking faster.

[@trainzack]

I think the explanation at 5:00 is not correct. Floating point numbers do not overflow like integers do, and will not wrap around or round to 0 no matter how many numbers you add. What is true about floating point numbers is that they are less precise the further you are away from 0. If you repeatedly add the same number to a floating point number (for example, the amount of time since the last frame), then eventually the number will get large enough that the number you're adding is smaller than the precision of the floating point number, and it will round down to the same number it started at. I think this is what the explanation was meant to be, but that got lost in translation at some point.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

I think he just got mistaken halfway through lol. The explanation started correctly, anyway!

[@anteshell]

I would have been surprised if a game as complex as this didn't have any memory overflow or similar mathematic edge cases unaccounted for. This goes as a remainder for any game developer, that you should not tie the time based calculations on perpetually incrementing values that has no checks in place to reset the value at some point. Also, at you last alchemy video I said jokingly that you're insane. Now I'm convinced that you actually are. But please, do not seek help yet. I'm too intrigued to see how this story continues. Besides, who needs therapy when we got Noita.

[@r3dp9]

We're all insane, the only question is how self aware we are, and whether we can channel that insanity in a safe direction.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

my therapist legit told me about Noita in the first place, so I say it's therapeutic! :D

[@nathanpfirman625]

Now I need to see somebody have 2 Electroshifts in the cauldron.

[@nathansnail]

If you freeze material when time is negative, move away from it but don't unload it, then wait another 10k hours the freeze animation will break and the materials get rainbow patterns.

[@Samiel_Flame]

9942 hours is like, 5 years of a full time job.

[@timwithfriends7582]

4:03 Seeing the stars stop blinking is some extreme cosmic horror, perfect for noita

[@aqlcaramsm3907]

holy shit so if you think about it, the world of Noita exists like antartica and seasons: every 10000 hours the world brings lightning season, and the population must hibernate until it's over, in this eternal cycle neat

[@ZarHakkar]

-Rain- Plasma World

[@mishagaming1075]

@@ZarHakkari was just about to say that-

[@Plexippuspetersi92]

Bruh. I don't think that's a bug. That's the developers telling you you're playing way too much.

[@vulpesregalis]

The Gods are concerned

[@faurestsimmons9736]

"Even the Gods grow weary"

[@guesswho2232]

w cauldron clickbait

[@FuryForged]

Honestly, I didn't TRY to cauldron clickbait. It was just the most interesting screenshot for the vid. But, if people get awngry with me, then I might swap it for like the pyramid or something.

[@caelblanch2737]

@@FuryForged I think it's fine. I figured it something big had happened the title would be different... sigh

[@sohlasattelite971]

@@FuryForged Honestly i just had a good laugh - Noita community found a new rare bug? Of course they've tried if it has something to do with the cauldron mystery somehow! But i'm also not super obsessed with Noita research, just a casual viewer.

[@thenormiedave]

After 9942 hours, the game tries to kill you to start a new save XD. If the devs did that intentionally, that is a good way to tell the player to go out and touch grass.

[@jugomebu]

This is truly an amazeballs project, and well done finding these utterly obscure bugs!

[@greatnotch360]

Omg, your dedication to this project is something. Thanks for making our noita's mechanics knowledge even deeper.

[@NXDH927]

Well a year is about 8760 hours so.......I think he's got time lol

[@sigmundroamer6580]

POV: You have been on a study binge for 9942 hours straight, and have become enlightninged. It's like becoming enlightened, but with more sparks.

[@andrzejzoll952]

New Fury Squared and Fury Forged video? You truly are spoiling us

[@AliasGaming0]

I knew you were cooking something seeing you leave noita on for 80 hours straight haha.

[@Deado]

Just wondering, do you plan on sharing this save file eventually? Would be cool for those of us that don't have the dedication to make our own alchemy lab, but still be able to play with everything and discover new things ourselves with one.

[@FuryForged]

Yup. I will be soon enough.

[@Deado]

@FuryForged Happy to hear! Will also be nice when seeing the different ways Fungal Shift chains break, especially on seeds that hit the same chain repeatedly.

[@Hlasd]

The liquids went stale lol

[@calciumcrisis5902]

MMO player: 2,845 hrs playtime (total playtime) Noita player: 9,942 hrs playtime (one run, still going)

[@soulofartorias9928]

jiggle physics!

[@crunexos276]

that's the coolest bug wtf

[@Majorchug]

Love this! great to see how the world starts to unravel... One strange one i ran into after a long time. I went parallel world hopping, and my base i had built at the pyramid had copied to the parallel i was in. all the objects and everything. except i couldn't pick anything up. When returning to base i noticed it had "moved" the chunk that had copied to the parallel

[@juancarlosparejaosorio5342]

Something cool occurs to me; an update in which instead of simply fixing the bugs they put enemy bosses that appear along with the bugs , and the game notifies you that they are entities from another dimensión that are distorting reality and you have to defeat them so that things return to normal.

[@juancarlosparejaosorio5342]

like this 3:40

[@Contextallion]

oo, I know one of these, at least partially; at ~3:25, the water dripping entities are definitely duped, and it often happens when performing a lot of high speed travel, and or when experiencing loading errors or delays.

[@zzstoner]

I love how the cauldron looks like a mini-Splatoon paint battle happened inside there. (at 0:52) Nollage.

[@escahfaidhe755]

Now im curious to see if you can bug the game hard enough to get lightning in a flask

[@FuryForged]

lightning in a bottle!

[@mmd3585]

I used to try to do very long runs in Noita, but the only ones that I actually went to explore super deep were the ones that I used mods to start overpowered to avoid dying to the crazier biomes. I only saw that giant worm, the metal kolmi or have beaten the wand connoisseur because of this. I still like playing Noita, but I actually enjoy trying, every day, the daily run to try to see if some good combination happen while just trying to go down and beat Kolmi normally. I have about 400 hours of the game, and I play it since the early access, back in 2018, I guess. I have burned out of the game and came back to it multiple times, but the daily run is the one that is keeping me the most without giving up on it. I did the same with Caveblazers, and also liked it. Edit: I just started watching the video. What the fuck

[@hamzamotara4304]

So if you wait for 18000 hours, it reverses. Cool! As a programmer, it's definitely possible to add failsafes to avoid this,and Nolla probably will hotfix it.

[@destroyer4929]

@@hamzamotara4304 who in their right mind would spend over 9000 hours on one run

[@lunactiathemoth]

the world suddenly becoming lightning feels too in-character for this game lmao

[@citricdemon]

they call it noita because you're noit, uh , ... yeah

[@nomukun1138]

Oh my god it's Dexter Castor Doping, he's way more famous than some KZbin guy!

[@ForTheJerusalem]

It would probably be the best mystery in any videogame if the cauldron did something at 9942 hours which would solve the eyes.

[@hamzamotara4304]

*gasp* A FuryForged Alchemy Lab update!

[@RevenantMain1]

In my 3 years of playing Apex Legends, I’ve accumulated just under 4000 hours of game play. Translating that into a single noita run TWICE baffles me. To the mad lad who makes it first, was it worth it brother?

[@cosmicskydragon333]

It is stuff like this that terrifies me and has me worried unsolved puzzles such as the eye puzzle are broken and there is something on the dev pcs they have something we don't. I do have to wonder how the lightning interacts with the eye puzzle, since you only tried the cauldron.

[@librasz8927]

Dexter are always Good at finding bugs scary guy

[@sengoku_fin]

Isn't this neat? The world of noita is bound to end. It's like Ukko gives one last gift to the player, changing everything in the world into what he's known for.

[@alexsheppard237]

gotta survive another 10000 hours after the first lightning world to unlightning it. i mean like what would you even do in a world made of lightning for 10000 hours

[@hashtag156]

babe wake up furyforged uploaded

[@trip2845]

Wait, isnt the wand bobbing animation, not an animation, and actually a positional effect, ie. It actually does move? If so, thats a very strange way to animate something in the world for seemingly no gain and Ive only just thought about this, 500 in myself.

[@notjoosh8616]

babe wake up, FuryForged uploaded.

[@mmd3585]

The video is actually Fury trying to show everyone that the game is broken, not that he is going insane playing it like a maniac

[@ecogreen123]

what happens after 9k hours is quite shocking, jokes aside i couldn't imagine playing a *rougelite* for over 9 thousand hours.

[@1KiloDepartment]

Off topic: Have you ever looked up what some of the entities' names mean? Such as "Kolmisilmän Silmä" at 4:33: That one would be "Triple-eye's Eye".

[@NoraNoita]

I'm dissapointed you didn't play that "We are electric" song that everyone used at some point in DotA compilation videos.

[@FuryForged]

I've actually never seen a DotA video, or played it, or really seen anything about it at all, lmao ;D

[@nakunaattorid2057]

Now I understand why in most mythologies the god of thunder is the most powerful one

[@Malkovith2]

youll have to pass this savefile to your grandchildren

[@CongaYT]

This video was shocking

[@SullySadface]

Entropy be like "surprise!"

[@CaptainAOrange]

Can't wait for the 190096 reactions in the cauldron

[@a.........1._.2..__..._.....__]

This is cannon yo me now. The world is doomed no matter what we do. Only 9k hours remain.

[@maninthesnow4393]

I noticed some of these when using a respawn mod. I figured it was the mod, but I noticed some times other enemies will act odd. Like part of the triangle guard was just missing or liquids in parallel worlds being way more then normal

[@TourFaint]

I wish this game was a normal rpg and not a random permadeath roguelike, so you could experience all of this without breaking the game.

[@spoopyboidoesstuff8176]

We finally found out Ukko's other plans...

[@Ouch-fu7sl]

Also try to pickup gold from treasure chests because when they spawn gold they also actually set their "next_frame_pickable" property to the frame counter value + 40 so you wont pick them up at the instant you open the chest I think they would be either unpickable or pickable just when you open it

[@lordfriedrick7911]

Noita guy breaks the world by doing absolutely nothing

[@bir1si]

I get why the liquid animations freeze, but why were they faster before the break? Also how do you have a permanent concentrated mana effect on you?

[@radishhat5736]

@@bir1si if you drink enough of something to have a super long time left timer breaks eventually. maybe something related to that

[@EuniverseCat]

same rounding error that eventually causes the timer to stop incrementing also causes it to update faster than it should for a while

[@alexion3007]

To give a more specific answer than Euni's, the point is that float values become less precise around large values. At high values it has to round to reachable numbers (well, at every value it has to but it becomes significant at large values). At 524288 adding 1/60 makes it round back down to 524288, but between 262144 and 524288 adding 1/60 makes it round to 1/32 - which is 1.875x as big meaning that it runs almost twice as fast

[@bir1si]

Ty everyone, tho didnt expect celeste community to be here lmao

[@Boxell_o7]

Beautiful

[@rexded]

nice video, i would like to ask if in the lightning world does all your botteled substances turn into lightning? And I would like to ask if you would do a video on the stars in Noita as you did meantion it posabley helping in some of the unsolved secreats in the previous Noita video?

[@techwizsmith7963]

I would imagine the bottles themselves turn to lightning

[@grephi6416]

this one run is longer than every single run i ever played plus the time i spent in the menu doing nothing

[@countsudoku6305]

so it's just slightly longer than average run involving secretes and parallel worlds

[@NikHil-ch4qo]

same with girlfriends after 72 hours , they stop jiggling for us and start complaining

[@doublesoul862]

I'm sure someone has tried this many times already but whenever I see the cauldron my mind jumps to what would happen if you tried to put the sun rocks from the desert scales into it. Or maybe try liquifying them if that's possible with the one essence that does that and mixing those liquids in the cauldron? Probably a stupid idea but it's better to say it than not to say it I guess

[@ChaosPootato]

This is such a Noita thing to happen

[@good-sofa]

6:00 that is so insane! It's straight up mesmerizing

[@christophermoore6110]

9942 hours is over a year bro, you’re crazy

[@snekgregory]

Alchemy Lab video is a good way to start the weekend

[@AlphactoryAT]

big far lands or bust energy

[@l9m241]

I hope you get to cover the player duplication bug. I know you can do entity duplication, but I've always been curious about trying to do it with the player themselves and some say it's possible.

[@towneshutzell1965]

I had my first op run recently, I managed to transmute blood into midas. still died but fun seeing the world collapse

[@Vesite]

Is there any other rougelike where you can mess around for hundreds of hours in the same run?😅

[@EuniverseCat]

wow this makes two games i play where a timer stops at 524288 due to floating point rounding and that causes bugs Pretty sure that the arithmetic that gives you 145 hours for things to break is wrong, it would actually be 115 hours, because the same rounding that causes Time-Played to stop increasing also causes it to increase faster than normal when it hits 2^18 = 262144. That's what would cause the liquid animation to play nearly twice as fast as normal!

[@dextercd_]

Good point, I didn't think of that. To be super pedantic, there's no precise time it happens at because it adds 1/60 every frame and the frame rate isn't exactly stable in Noita. :^)

[@asim4243]

ok but why does everything lose charge every second? could the cauldron be half time limited such that if the charge is too low it just won't work?

[@alexion3007]

Hey quick note - it should be 115 hours not 145 hours. While one might assume 524288 means 145 (524288 / 60 spm / 60 mph = 145.6 hours) this is actually inaccurate; because float imprecision enters the picture earlier. At 262144, adding 1/60 to a single actually adds 1/32 meaning time runs at almost double the speed. You in fact noticed this saying "it jiggles twice as fast between 72 hours and 145 hours" but you failed to account for the fact that the jiggle doubles because of this. So the other 72 hours happens twice as fast meaning 72 + 36 = 108. (further imprecision is likely due to it adding 1/64 instead of 1/60). It actually takes 24986955 frames which is 115.68 hours [I know this because the same bug impacts Celeste, where one of the games hazards mostly stops killing you when hitting this value] Edit: Oh Euni already posted that

[@arcturuslight_]

Temporal Farlands discovered

[@flabort]

Hmmm.. how many full potion jars can you cram into the cauldron without breaking any? I want to know. And when they do start breaking, smash them all to see as many reactions happening in and around the overflowing cauldron as possible. 😂

[@GoldballIndustries]

does throwing physics objects at the water droplet entites spawn gold nuggets?

[@MCNarret]

Maybe your dead body has something to do with the alchemy cauldron?

[@RolandTheJabberwocky]

I don't think I've ever heard of a float integer overflow. Thats... impressive?

[@SandroWalach]

I'm gonna guess before watching the video: Blame Float numbers. Unreal Engine had a similar issue for their day ticking system. It was fixed by going from Float to Double.

[@JamesTDG]

8:38 so essentially, we need a patch that causes the frame counter to reset to 0 when it hits a negative integer?

[@rifflerunderhill7006]

Are there any other timer based spells that involve motion that might have a unique reaction before the universe stops?

[@darksoulbg24]

but why does the movement break after 9k hours?

[@aristocraticcthulhu3831]

When the world turns to lightning and you cast a spell that creates an object, does it also turn to lightning and, mor eimportantly, does it still retain the projectile's properties like the boomerang effect of the big sawblade?

[@tamnker8465]

Do the water droplets have a code? Someone analyze them! What's the harm in a few wasted hours?