Siduction...This Linux Distro Keeps Shining On

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@imSterling
@imSterling 2 күн бұрын
Excuse me, Mr DT, but "Shine On" (Shine On You Crazy Diamond) is a Pink Floyd song, the album which that song is in is Wish You Were Here. 🤓
@jotix2570
@jotix2570 2 күн бұрын
On the matter on Pink Floyd... Shine on (you little crazy diamond) is a theme dedicated to Syd Barret former singer who has several psychiatrist problems. So various layers of significance there with the name Sid (Syd). And the wallpaper with that kind of diamond indicate is something that was in the mind of the creator.
@calholli
@calholli Күн бұрын
You would think they would have a few related wallpaper options. smh
@Gigusx
@Gigusx Күн бұрын
@@calholli Right? Thankfully for us, you've identified the issue and are gonna go to the their forums/github and suggest this change.
@calholli
@calholli Күн бұрын
@@Gigusx nah.. I'll never use it. I'd rather jump on Fedora or Arch based stuff.. Debian had been exposed for "hiring divers^e interns only" recently, and AntiX is litearlly "ant^fa X" -- So yeah- I don't support the blu3 ha^r folks
@calholli
@calholli Күн бұрын
@@Gigusx nah.. I'll never use it. I'd rather jump on Fedora or Arch based stuff.. Debian had been exposed for "hiring d^v3rs^e interns only" recently, and AntiX is litearlly "@nt^fa X" -- So yeah- I don't support the blu3 ha^r folks
@calholli
@calholli Күн бұрын
@@Gigusx @Gigusx Nope. I'd rather jump on Fedora or Arch based stuff.. Debian had been expos3d for "hiring divers^e interns only" recently, and AntiX is litearlly "ant^fa X" -- So yeah- I don't support the blu3 ha^r folks
@hamburger--fries
@hamburger--fries Күн бұрын
My wife runs a coffee roasting business and we sell in 150+ grocery stores and they want paper A4 pronted invoices. Also we print marketing materials for each grocery store. We print labels. We print a lot of stuff. Printing is still very strong.
@safsaf99
@safsaf99 Күн бұрын
botted comment?
@occultsupport
@occultsupport 23 сағат бұрын
@@safsaf99 why would you even think that? did you even watch the video?
@cptfarzkizz8823
@cptfarzkizz8823 19 сағат бұрын
My Husband runs a Dildo business with 150 pron shops , and they all want lube A4 pronted warming lube. We sent out samples as marketing for each pron shop . We lube stuff, a lot of lube. Lubing strong!
@hamburger--fries
@hamburger--fries 7 сағат бұрын
@@occultsupport Distro said he does not use printing, thats all.
@hamburger--fries
@hamburger--fries 7 сағат бұрын
​@@safsaf99 why?
@ArianDuca
@ArianDuca Күн бұрын
@DT - happy new year and all the best for 2025 !!!! 🍀🍀
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 22 сағат бұрын
Thanks - download running in the background. Hope 2025 is good to you!
@ShaunakHub
@ShaunakHub Күн бұрын
strange that Inkscape is still stuck on 1.3.x on a 'rolling release', I think 1.4 has been out for a few months now.
@hiYouareaclown
@hiYouareaclown 14 сағат бұрын
Why don't you teach newbies how to compile the kernel? That's the hardest part for newbies.
@torspedia
@torspedia 2 күн бұрын
Would Siduction be to Debian, what Endeavour is to Arch? Kasts is a really good app, and what I use when listening to podcasts on my laptop.
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 Күн бұрын
per your first question, not exactly. Siduction is Debian Sid with custom tools, while Endeavour is simply Arch with the graphical installation. you have to take notice that the primary intention to use Debian is to use the stable branch
@UncleSpellbinder
@UncleSpellbinder Күн бұрын
@@penguin2137 "...the primary intention to use Debian is to use the stable branch." Yes, this IS true of course. But there are some of us who like Debian and prefer the idea of a 'rolling' Debian. And while that is NOT the intent of Debian SID/Unstable at all, we like the bleeding edge, and the up-to-date apps and up-to-date kernel. I've been running SID on my Samsung Galaxy Book Pro laptop for a bit over a year, no issues in that time.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
I agree with you @torspedia. Why not just use Debian unstable and install KDE? It's not a "Distro", it's just preconfigured Debian with a different label. Most Linux "distros" are just that, configurations. Mint, Ubuntu, are FORKS and actual Distros. BASH me here if you want everyone, but Linux having 1000's of so-called "distributions" is a complete mess, and for the end-user (especially new ones), it is highly confusing. No wonder we are only at 4% of the PC market still. Maybe Linux should go with Arch's KISS philosophy in this area and slim down. Think about it.
@torspedia
@torspedia Күн бұрын
@@UncleSpellbinder indeed, as I much prefer newer package updates, though that's becoming less relevant with AppImages, Flatpaks, and Snaps.
@torspedia
@torspedia Күн бұрын
@@terminalvelocity4858 to be honest, I wouldn't install Debian on a main machine, as I like a distro that's more 'up-to-date'. I don't really have a use case for it, at the moment.
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K Күн бұрын
5:40 - My family still does a bunch of printing and scanning. I think especially the kids for school stuff. In fact, I'm looking at hooking it up so that I can access over the network instead of always bringing a laptop and plugging in via USB
@vince6792
@vince6792 Күн бұрын
CachyOS Derek....CachyOS.... This distro is impressive! I put it on bare metal in an AMD/Nvidia productionn machine. I was amazed. Sid is not impressive in the least.
@TrustJesusToday
@TrustJesusToday Күн бұрын
CachyOS is on five PCs here including a 13 year old HP TouchScreen notebook. I hope the handlers keep this distro fresh.
@vince6792
@vince6792 Күн бұрын
@TrustJesusToday CachyOS is outstanding, literally blew me away, & and it's only 2 yrs old. It's already #5 on Distrowatch. The devs know this distro is gold so time will tell. They've done amazing work no one has ever did.
@teklife
@teklife Күн бұрын
is siduction like fedora? or sid is like fedora? and then siduction is like a fedora bases distro(but in debian)?
@TrustJesusToday
@TrustJesusToday Күн бұрын
I think sid is more rolling than fedora. When I used sid in 2023, it was calling for updates almost every single day.
@jimmyrichards5595
@jimmyrichards5595 20 сағат бұрын
Siduction is like Rawhide. Or to be more precise, Debian Sid is like Fedora Rawhide.
@nikunjkhangwal
@nikunjkhangwal 2 күн бұрын
That's quite a name
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 2 күн бұрын
Sounds more like a porn site than a Linux distro.
@linux_chronicles
@linux_chronicles 2 күн бұрын
Hey DT!
@htx80nerd
@htx80nerd 15 сағат бұрын
I like this concept for a distro
@LinuxRenaissance
@LinuxRenaissance Күн бұрын
Every office has printers, still :-)
@survivor303
@survivor303 Күн бұрын
I dont get these variants. Why not just install sid and do your thing of it?
@lindenhawthorn4761
@lindenhawthorn4761 Күн бұрын
Odysee subscriber here wondering where everyone went...Distrotube disappeared, Mental Outlaw disappeared, Brodie Robertson disappeared, The Linux Cast says he's leaving...
@falajose3080
@falajose3080 Күн бұрын
They probably are just enjoying their family's cause christmas + new year
@pocketglove
@pocketglove Күн бұрын
almost all of these people still upload constantly, idk what you're on
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow Күн бұрын
Odysee said that youtube updated their api recently so automatic content uploading from youtube was having issues. Therefore they requested people manually upload the content. I'd hate to think that this is the reason the uploads stopped. Hope they are not as lazy as to upload an already prepared video and copy paste it's description.
@LinuxRenaissance
@LinuxRenaissance Күн бұрын
Small creators will still upload as they need every view
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome Күн бұрын
Something happened with the site about two weeks ago that killed the simultaneous mirroring with this site, and it tanked the platform. Most creators were using it as a backup, and without the automation they're not willing to spend the extra time and effort to manually upload all their videos to more than one place. If they're even aware that the automatic backups to that site are no longer happening. I can't even tell people on here, because any time I use that other site's name (or this one for some weird reason) my comments disappear, I'm sure it's that way for a lot of non-creators who used that other place.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Why not just use Debian unstable and install KDE. It's not a "Distro", it's just preconfigured Debian.
@Semmelboy
@Semmelboy Күн бұрын
it's for the kind of person that does want their OS preconfigured already
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
@@Semmelboy Sure, but in that case it would probably make more sense to just have a configuration script that could be ran on the main distro itself. This particular variant "Siduction", is nothing more than a bloated mess full of things most users probably wont even use and the actual configuration itself does nothing "extra" than what Debian itself does. I just think there might be a better way to do "preconfigured", you know? It seems a bit obtuse when you think about the thousands of "distros" out there now that all do the same thing, but basically the biggest difference is a few more apps and "prettier" wallpaper 🤣
@DavidLBrown-y8w
@DavidLBrown-y8w 20 сағат бұрын
because Sid is not a production distro and sometimes things just don't work or cause major problems. What isn't mentioned in this video is the support workarounds for things that are broken/buggy. They have a dedicated help forum with mitigations for the problems that will occur using Debian-Sid.
@gadeane287
@gadeane287 Күн бұрын
That really looks slick. Thanks for the video DT!
@CyborgZeta
@CyborgZeta Күн бұрын
I don't understand why Debian ships Konqueror with Plasma, or Dragon Player instead of Haruna.
@ArkboiX
@ArkboiX Күн бұрын
fun fact: i thought the calamares installer was just the "kde" installer
@RafaCoringaProducoes
@RafaCoringaProducoes Күн бұрын
its by manjaro devs, envy people says calamares is nice but hard to implement
@ArkboiX
@ArkboiX Күн бұрын
@@RafaCoringaProducoes oh yeah i first used it when i installed manjaro, when i didn't know it was arch based and had broken AUR
@FreeFleet99
@FreeFleet99 Күн бұрын
Well, it's called calamares not Kalamares.
@ArkboiX
@ArkboiX Күн бұрын
@@FreeFleet99 Real, i love using "K"alculator. KDE needs a spelling lesson lol
@hazelora
@hazelora Күн бұрын
"nobody really prints" you are out of touch and out of your mind
@riseabove3082
@riseabove3082 Күн бұрын
It's true.... printing is less and less every year. Just look at all these companies that are sending everything digital. Look how printing businesses are struggling for business like Canon and Ricoh trying to lease their MFD printers which Businesses want less and less. More Businesses are leasing less printers anymore. Sorry, it's you that is out of touch.
@hazelora
@hazelora 22 сағат бұрын
@@riseabove3082 printing less is not "needing no printer anymore". work in my industry for 25 years. printers are a must. chill down with your hypothesis
@arunray2986
@arunray2986 2 күн бұрын
a very cheezy name, i dont think i will be using this...thank you
@shawnchalfant1595
@shawnchalfant1595 Күн бұрын
Yeah that's a ridiculous reason but your choice.
@calholli
@calholli Күн бұрын
KDE.. is still just KDE. lol.. It's offered on so many distros, and I'm still not clear on which distro I should choose.. because in the end, they all are KDE, so there's very little differences from one to the next.
@TurntableTV
@TurntableTV Күн бұрын
Regarding your printing comment, dt... In the EU there are still a few countries where printing is still necessary, especially if you you're a business owner. Some documents are still required to be ink signed in order to be accepted by governmental authorities. Working with printers as an IT person is a pain in the ass, especially if they're HP. I hope they'll be a thing of the past soon enough.
@Roje8
@Roje8 Күн бұрын
There is no X download, more interesting would be how to instal i3 or hyprland on it.
@zparihar
@zparihar Күн бұрын
The real question is how stable is it long term?
@tristen_grant
@tristen_grant Күн бұрын
Try it out.
@veenyx437
@veenyx437 Күн бұрын
Bro why you leave Odyssey?
@dacritter8397
@dacritter8397 Күн бұрын
I love bloat! The more the better! 2900 packages? Thatnot bloat, gimme at least 10,000! 😂. Seriously though, When running an OS like SID, i really dont care about bloat. I like to see as much and as many as possible simply becauae it's, to me, more of a test environment .
@hexisXz
@hexisXz Күн бұрын
DT switched to Wayland it won’t be long till he tries openBSD….
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Wayland is working amazingly well these days...
@hexisXz
@hexisXz Күн бұрын
@ I feel like DT would like openBSD though. eMacs, Firefox, most of the terminals he uses, fish shell, xmonad and more all work on openBSD pretty well these days. I think even Wayland works well too. Edit: ATM we have sway
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
@@hexisXz I concur BSD seems like it would be most fitting for DT. Wayland is working well on Gnome, Sway, Hyprland, and I think a few others. Cinnamon is experimental and XFCE is in the works. I currently use SwayFX, I do mostly coding and gaming, it's been absolutely great for the two years I've been using it.
@hexisXz
@hexisXz Күн бұрын
@@terminalvelocity4858 I mainly code on openBSD but I play games as well
@EugeniusNaumenco
@EugeniusNaumenco Күн бұрын
5:45 it's not a thing anymore in the US?
@ordinaryguy1192
@ordinaryguy1192 18 сағат бұрын
Three KZbinrs and two students who make this “distro”
@raddinox2707
@raddinox2707 Күн бұрын
I so hate pre-installed software. I want a clean OS install and then I can pick and choose to install the software I need
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 Күн бұрын
2900 is a lot of packages ootb even for Debian i guess even MX has less and it is sometimes called "bloated" lol also, seeing high resource usage, i think it might be due to wayland stuff in the background
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Wayland is resource-heavy? That's news to me.
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 Күн бұрын
@@terminalvelocity4858 look at the htop fragment in the video
@AbegazNap
@AbegazNap Күн бұрын
2 gigs of RAM usage is not crazy for KDE. Its becoming hard to recommend it.
@orangedullness2268
@orangedullness2268 2 күн бұрын
can i trade 0dte puts on tesla on the distro?
@SecretlySeven
@SecretlySeven Күн бұрын
Starting to get nervous with all this Wayland talk. I know I'm totally alone and I'm the only person in the world that uses OBS but keyboard hotkeys still don't work on Wayland.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Wayland is working great these days. Even my games run better on it, which took me by surprise. By the time X users need to move over to it, those outliers will be fixed. Screen sharing works great now and Wayland isn't bad, it's the support outside of it that takes time to adapt. All will be fine.
@CHNHBH
@CHNHBH Күн бұрын
Nobody really prints.... what? What an interesting observation
@UncleSpellbinder
@UncleSpellbinder Күн бұрын
I like Siduction, in general. Just a bit much, IMHO. To many applications installed. I prefer running actual Debian SID, which I use as a daily driver on my laptop.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Why not just call it "bloat", because that's exactly what it is. Makes more sense to just install Debian unstable with KDE and call it a day lol.
@YorranKlees
@YorranKlees Күн бұрын
I'm a bit confused there about Gimp and Inkscape usage. Gimp replaces Photoshop, and Inkscape replaces Illustrator. Is there something I miss nowadays, due to my lack of recent developments information?
@erfarf3345
@erfarf3345 Күн бұрын
Siduction is nice, but... may worth have a look at PikaOS ;)
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Just pick a main distro like Debian, Arch, etc and configure it to your liking...that's all these "distros" are anyway, just preconfigured from main distros which most everyone goes to once they are done doing the silly distro hop after years.
@donaldwilliams6821
@donaldwilliams6821 Күн бұрын
This is a nice update thanks DT
@jalpa9642
@jalpa9642 Күн бұрын
Why in the world would anyone in their right mind, want to run an UNSTABLE version of any Linux distro...........?
@pkz420
@pkz420 Күн бұрын
To have access to the newest features and fixes. Debian "Unstable" is still reasonably stable. It may not be as reliable as other Linus distros, but it's still more consistent than Windows.
@UltraZelda64
@UltraZelda64 Күн бұрын
Personally I don't, therefore I don't run it. But pkz420 pretty much covered all the bases in terms of actual reasons. It's important to understand that the term "unstable" is relative; while Debian Unstable may be more unstable than Debian Stable, literally being the testing ground for what will eventually become the next stable release, it is still likely more stable than Arch or a typical Windows system.
@HyenaEmpyema
@HyenaEmpyema Күн бұрын
How in the world would any distro ever become STABLE if nobody tested the UNSTABLE version?
@UncleSpellbinder
@UncleSpellbinder Күн бұрын
I've been running SID on my Samsung Galaxy Book Pro laptop for a bit over a year, no issues in that time. Pretty damn stable, if you ask me.
@j03y__
@j03y__ Күн бұрын
Ive done it and my computer has never caught fire.
@aMartianSpy
@aMartianSpy Күн бұрын
i like kuis but sometimes i use kerminal
@CowboyTrucking61
@CowboyTrucking61 Күн бұрын
I like it
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Oh yay, yet ANOTHER Linux distro to add to the 1,000's of others. It makes sense why Linux doesn't gain new users very quickly. Before you bash me (see what I did there), I am a Linux user myself for the last 11 years. I just wish Linux would take a different approach in this area, it's a mess when you think about it.
@Devonux
@Devonux Күн бұрын
Linux having a thousand different distros is one of the things that drew me to Linux and I'm not the only one.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
@@Devonux Sure, I used to feel the same too. One of the first questions I always hear from literally every new user is "which distro should I use". Then comes in the thousand different opinions. Really, Linux is...Linux regardless of Distro, so why over-complicate? Base distro, then a config choice would make more sense imho, for example. Think about the point I am making here. Too much of a good thing, well, you know what I am getting at. There is surely a much better way to have "options", you know?
@Eggroley
@Eggroley Күн бұрын
You can't stop people from creating distros. "Linux" can't do anything about that.
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
@@Eggroley No one said stop people from doing what they want; it's the fact that most distros (like this one) are essentially pointless. It's the way things could be improved and streamlined better with the way a user wants their PC to be used for. "Linux" is past the point of being obtuse with so many distro choices that all literally do the same thing, having little to gain over another distro. It's all simply a different configuration that could be much better streamlined as, for example, a config file from a main distro submitted by users instead of pointless extra packaging and large ISO bloat floating all over the place. Lastly, if a distro maintainer stops supporting it, which happens, then what? The end user is once again "distro" hopping around, which is never-ending for years, typically until... guess what... most end back up on a base distro like Arch, Debian, etc., anyway. It seems like a pointless square peg being put in a round hole. It's complicated, yet there is a simple solution that many don't want to see because OSS is about freedom. Sometimes, like anything, that can go too far and actually cause a negative effect, especially for newer users and businesses. At what point is it nonsensical? Linux could surely evolve further to do the same things but even better. Maybe then it could have a much larger market share (and support) if it were a more streamlined experience for everyone to boot and not just something aimed at geeks and tweaks like ourselves. That's the takeaway and point here.
@AIC_onyt
@AIC_onyt Күн бұрын
>Debian >KDE wow how special
@ProfShibe
@ProfShibe Күн бұрын
do a review of win11 lol
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
W-h-y-?
@harpskid
@harpskid Күн бұрын
The calamares installer is such a downgrade. No easy way to setup full disk encryption like with the anaconda installer, hell, the standard debian installer isn't too hard to navigate even.
@MartinAhlman
@MartinAhlman Күн бұрын
Sidux.... With KDE.... Never been pleased with Sid, as I shouldn't be! It's Sid! And I never understood KDE. Too many buttons, too much of: I made amistake, how do I go back? Settings. right... Not these settings, other settings... That's not poor Sid's fault, just my gripe about KDE. Sid and KDE... Match made in hell for me!
@havocblast
@havocblast 23 сағат бұрын
Changes License retroactively. Saw what Matt Mullenweg did and said hold my beer.
@pw1187
@pw1187 Күн бұрын
So a bloated version of Debian unstable. Another useless distro..
@paul_pintang
@paul_pintang 2 күн бұрын
Yowww
@ThePhenoix504FI3D1
@ThePhenoix504FI3D1 Күн бұрын
another useless distro that isn't miles better than other already existing ones. you want stability with a slight most recent packages? stick with fedora. didn't like it? or allergic to red hat? you can have debian sid or linux mint. still want ultra bleeding edge updates and allergic to red hat? stick with arch or EndeavourOS if you don't want to hassle with installation guides. other than that just use windows. linux isn't for you Edit: this isn't directed to DistroTube, this only said for the masses who question why linux isn't growing while every 6 months a new distro comes as if it solves anything. It's just duplicated meaningless effort.
@Valdoror
@Valdoror 14 сағат бұрын
I'm fed up with these pointless Linux distributions "review-like" videos, which only consist in listing applications version number... 😞 DT can do much better (but it takes more time 🤷‍♀).
@LinDahai88
@LinDahai88 Күн бұрын
Pls don't say Calamares is straight forward :) It's the worst UX I had so far. Especially the disk partitioning step - it's almost impossible to set this correctly with Windows dual boot - it's just unclear. Believe it or not the best experience I had was Debian installer, despite I'm Windows switcher...
@quarteratom
@quarteratom 21 сағат бұрын
Rolling release is stu,pid.
@toxiccan175
@toxiccan175 Күн бұрын
Siduction makes zero sense when Arch exists. Why use a rolling release based on the development branch of a periodic distribution when you could use a dedicated rolling release with an incredible wiki? It doesn’t make sense.
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 Күн бұрын
if we take into account that Sid is the branch mainly for developers to test the software, then yeah, trying to adapt Debian into rolling release paradigm makes no sense to me either plus, i had experience with both Debian Sid and EndeavourOS. Endeavour has been my daily driver for almost 8 months already, while Sid borked itself after a week
@UncleSpellbinder
@UncleSpellbinder Күн бұрын
@@penguin2137 I use EndeavourOS as my desktop PC daily driver. I've been using Debian SID as a daily drive on my laptop for over a year. Never had any issues... so far.
@MarloMitchell
@MarloMitchell Күн бұрын
Another pointless distro.
@sluuny
@sluuny 2 күн бұрын
First !
@WelshUncut
@WelshUncut Күн бұрын
I'm sorry but KDE and anything QT based is objectively ugly and dated. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. How do people actually use this software. Mind boggling how dated this distro looks purely because of KDE. Great if they're going for that, but you have to imagine not many new users will pick it up
@FurqanHun
@FurqanHun Күн бұрын
man if you looked at my beautiful default xfce (fedora version), you'll probably want to cleanse your eyes... (tho i changed the icon pack to breeze dark and then forgot which ones were the default one so...) kde is a bit too much for me but it's not that bad
@falajose3080
@falajose3080 Күн бұрын
I agree everything after windows Vista looks ugly and dated
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
Agreed. SwayFX is my home. After using tiling wm, I can never go back to floating lol.
@WelshUncut
@WelshUncut Күн бұрын
@@terminalvelocity4858 ditto about WM's. My daily driver is Hyprland but I use a lot of GTK software like Waybar, Nautilus. Purely because QT applications are hideous 🤣
@sibylla104
@sibylla104 2 күн бұрын
kde is so bloatmaxed to the gills, why does it come with vector graphic editor
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 Күн бұрын
if you mean Inkscape, it's not a KDE programme in the first place
@danwl9708
@danwl9708 Күн бұрын
inkscape isnt installed by default because of being kde plasma. its something the os did intentionally
@tridens6708
@tridens6708 Күн бұрын
Looks Rubish i wownt be installing. I'll stick to maIn distro Arch😊
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Күн бұрын
...btw 😏
@DavidLBrown-y8w
@DavidLBrown-y8w 20 сағат бұрын
my exact reasoning for not using Arch...looks like rubbish, won't be installing..sticking to Stable Debian.
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