Siege Of Toulon Scene | NAPOLEON (2023) Joaquin Phoenix, Movie CLIP HD

[@sticazzih5212]

My favorite scene is when Wellington says: "That's got to be the best pirate I've ever seen"

[@markmasigan4211]

"So it would seem."

[@janefelix3821]

I doubt it since Wellington as he was in Flanders at the time. It could have been Gen. George O'Hara as he was the British commander who ended up surrendering to Napoleon. FYI, O'Hara was the British officer who surrendered to George Washington 12 years earlier at Yorktown, VA.

[@MrIrishscouse]

​@@janefelix3821 You may also remember he lost to Mel Gibson in The Patriot at the battle of Cowpens, albeit, I will admit, as second in command to Lord Cornwallis. But, yes General O'Hara's military career is much chequered. :-)

[@PeterT-i1w]

my fav scene was where Wellington said: "it's Wellingtoning time" and he charged the Imperial Guard

[@fredrik8500]

This one got me good 😂

[@davealmighty9638]

Not a cellphone in sight. Everyone just living in the moment.

[@DamnedConservatives]

Quality observation. (typed on a cell phone)

[@jamesbagshaw8251]

They knew they'd outscore kittens on FB reels in the morning

[@jamesbagshaw8251]

They knew they'd outscore kittens on FB reels in the morning

[@3DJMV3]

Not a living in the moment. Everyone just cellphone in sight.

[@reileyscoyote7976]

“Living”

[@windsweptjoe442]

Your horse taking a cannonball to the chest, now that's soldiering

[@iamgermane]

Hard to believe this whole scene is French vs. French. The Imperial supporters escaped on those ships.

[@DarkFilmDirector]

@@iamgermane No. The British Royal Navy was docked at the port and manned Ft Mulgrave. The town itself was defended by a largely Italian and Spanish army with some British regiments. Barely 1000 of the men defending the city were French royalists.

[@iamgermane]

@@DarkFilmDirector Well Toulon was inhabited by Royalists correct? They had to escape on those ships.

[@justinc183]

love the sharp reference

[@windsweptjoe442]

@@justinc183 Glad someone gets it

[@Moon-li9ki]

during the siege of toulon, napoleon actually was bayonetted in the thigh by a british soldier when leading an attack, a wound that almost killed him and that would have drastically changed history.

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

Rule britannia. Duke of Wellington put an end to L’Empereur at the Battle Waterloo 1815

[@TheChosenWank]

@@christophermichaelclarence6003he was lucky that blucher got his back

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

@@TheChosenWank The Redcoats Square formation could old them off

[@Randomnametbh]

@@christophermichaelclarence6003 No they didn't lol, French artillery were firing from a farm house destroying British squares, Wellingtons British lines were falling apart and if it weren't for Napoleon not sending the Old Guard, and Blucher showing up, Wellington would have had his ass handed to him on a silver platter

[@Nah62]

@@RandomnametbhPart of Wellington’s plan was literally the fact he knew Napoleon would think they’re retreating and push his Guards forward. The Cavalry charge was poor judgement by Marshal Ney, and they got shredded by the British Square Formation. Once the cavalry were done, Wellington used his fire by ranks to decimate the Guards. Blucher also happened to show up, which helped him out. I think the fun thing about Waterloo was that both leaders were waiting on reinforcements. The Prussian soldiers led by Blucher to aid Wellington. And Grouchy’s Army to aid Napoleon.

[@kornofulgur]

0:59 We had Napoleon AND Darth Vader, they had no chance.

[@Cayden1988]

LOL

[@justinmorgan2126]

Different actors fool

[@martica6755]

😅😅

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

Ahahahaha what a surprise that’s Darth Vader with his helmet

[@yuhhhguy]

@@justinmorgan2126 that's the joke sherlock..

[@RLJmusic4life]

This scene made Napoleon look like a timid mouse and unsure of himself. He was much braver than that. He was an artillery expert. That is what helped him rise in power. Napoleon studied and learned the art of war. He was good at it, even at a young age.

[@rltw2753]

And you know this how ? Did you know him ? History lies you know only what you have been told

[@farglory7715]

​@@rltw2753 Why would history lie about this?

[@GrimmaStadguard]

@@rltw2753 There is a reason why Military brought into the battle a bunch of painters and schollars.

[@leduc7929]

​@@rltw2753 Napoleon was always moving forward, taking the initiative, so it's simply impossible. That's one of the many contradictions and lies in this film.

[@ivanhernandez2077]

That’s the whole point; not many are just completely fearless, especially going to war with the biggest army at the time. It’s despite his fear he’s able to win and succeed

[@MrTwentycent90]

One of my favorite scenes in the film. In reality there were 32,000 republicans against 20,000 English and royalists. And Napoleon was seriously injured in the thigh by a bayonet blow.

[@samuelstephen8147]

One of the few times that Napoleon directly took part in hand to hand combat, and the most accurate part of the film.

[@rickswartz-e6x]

And it's not very accurate. Napoleon led a bitter charge against the fort after other French units had already been driven back. They didn't sneakily catch the Brits without a night watch partying, there was already intense fighting when Napoleon's unit charged. And the Brits did not have a wall full of loaded cannon overlooking the harbor aimed at their own ships, which would be the wrong direction to stop a French charge from the landward side. Napoleon supervised the hauling of French cannon into place and when the British saw this they basically sailed away because their position was untenable at that point.

[@shauny2285]

Such a brave horse to give its life for cinematic realism. Viva le cheval!

[@tmseh]

In an alternate universe Schwarzenegger single handedly destroys both armies with a minigun.

[@jimcrawford5039]

That would be 20,00 British, there were Scots, Welsh & Irish there as well!

[@guillaumebernard3580]

As a French, when i heard Ridley Scott responding to French audience criticism about his movie saying: " French people don't even love themselves, how could they appreciate my movie" I found this statement full of contempt towards the French.... It is quite the contrary actually, it is because we admire , respect and love this brilliant figure of our history that we don't like the mediocre and somehow ridiculous portrait he made of Napoleon in this rather average and disappointing movie...Napoleon worth far better than this.

[@burgundian777]

Agreed, it's Napoleon for Pete's sake, one of the greatest individuals of European history. Ridley Scott is a has-been, compare this junk to Waterloo from 1970. Rod Steiger as aged Napoleon hit it out of the ball park.

[@PeterT-i1w]

when the 50 year old Joaquin Phoenix tries to pass as the 24 year old Napoleon ...

[@RuiLuz]

Well..back then, people in their 30s looked liked they were in their 50s.

[@DEVINdevdev]

zero Napoleon vibes from him.

[@Daniel_P116]

War changes a man.

[@WaitAMinute1989]

It's called acting

[@hansofaxalia]

The stress of existing back then probably put wrinkles and varicose veins on most before they hit 12

[@Overwatch9]

Generals in movies "READY! FIREE!". No wonder the history remembers them for such being such brilliant strategists.

[@gwilliams4674]

Reminds me of that Blackadder skit about the execution squad... readysetFIRE

[@Time_Developer]

*Yes, for europe they were good strategists, but compared to the Russians, they are inexperienced children. ;)*

[@uncle7215]

@@Time_Developer 🤡

[@Time_Developer]

@@uncle7215*, open a history book. ;)*

[@uncle7215]

@@Time_Developer I’m a masters student of military history at a renown British university lol

[@spartan2767]

For a moment I thought dearth Vader was laying the explosives 😂😂😂😂

[@Neo11111]

Glad I wasn't the only one. Best bit of the whole scene for comic value.

[@spartan2767]

Right like the only thing missing was the breathing,maybe it was drowned out by the music ,not to make it obvious 😂😂😂

[@Neo11111]

@@spartan2767 Darth Vader in covert mode...

[@nomanmcshmoo8640]

You were not alone!

[@commanderkronos]

Darth*

[@roybraithwaite9332]

Waterloo with Rod Steiger and Christopher Plummer is a far superior movie. :Directed by Sergei Bondarchuk with Magnificent Battle scenes! no cgi and a cast of 20,000 soldiers of the red army and 4,000 calvary and horses. *Sunday.. June 18.1815* The sound of church bells floated across the muddy Belgian plains on a Sunday morning in 1815, as nearly 200,000 men prepared for battle. Ten hours later, one in every three lay dead: and the name of the village nearby was to head a flaming page in history......it was *Waterloo.* 💣💥💣💥💣💥💣💥💣💥🌹🥀

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

idc

[@dr.awkward9075]

Sir, i've lost my leg.

[@DEZERKER63]

waterloo is one hell of a good movie

[@Rustylad85]

The scale is astonishing.

[@yuhhhguy]

i agree, but i do appreciate some of the scenes in this one.

[@alexandredevert4935]

Soldiers storms out the cave thing shouting "Vive la France !" (Long Llve France !) with a heavy Anglo-Saxon accent :D

[@tedcrilly46]

If it had been in French you would have complained that an English speaking audience won't understand.

[@usaidmoinofficial7016]

@@tedcrilly46 Subtitles would be available.

[@TemenosL]

What the hell is an Anlgo-Saxon accent in 2024? Wot?

[@AlexC-ou4ju]

@@TemenosL anglo saxon is how much of the north hemisphere ( latin world, Continental Europe, Russia and eastern Europe etc) refers to the English, US, Canada, Australia etc. Are you famiiliar with the term W.A.S.P? ( white anglo saxon Protestant) typically used to refer to people living in suburbia US etc.

[@captainpoppleton]

the movie was made for a western audience, your nitpicking is ridiculous.

[@jakobatredies1114]

Really enjoyed this sequence. Thought it was going to set the tone even though they wouldn't be 100% historically accurate. But the battles just downgraded from here.

[@ciby200]

"But the battles just downgraded from here." - thats right. i hope we see more of the battles in the extended version

[@jamiemcerlain5897]

@@ciby200My guess is that they wouldn’t leave the most expensive parts of the film (the battles) out of the theatrical cut so I reckon we’ve seen them all already

[@dustman0048]

@@jamiemcerlain5897 i know for sure that they cut some battles (the entire italian arc is cutted ) and for example for the battle of borodino if you look closer you saw that the charge of Napoleon with horses (no comment lol) was the cutted version of the battle of Marengo (still no comment) because we saw Napoleon in a different uniform and we saw rapidly that they were charging austrians units not russians

[@ciby200]

that would be very disappointing. if this is the case, this napoleon would be my personal worst movie about him.@@jamiemcerlain5897

[@jamiemcerlain5897]

@@dustman0048 The million dollar question is… if all these scenes return in the extended version will the film actually become good?… I doubt it

[@frankgibson6484]

They turned Napoleon into a Marvel character.

[@christopherdreher2790]

Do you read? Napoleon Bonaparte was legendary! He never even wore those stupid spandex superhero suits. He was the best field commander in history. The epitome of the Romantic era of European history, even with his flashy drama of personal romance that was iconic as well as directly identifying, similar to the cadre of turmoil that marriages of any stature experience. Ridley Scott and Joaquin Phoenix did admirably, as the task of encompassing the effect and legacy of someone who conquered all of continental Europe is more than what Marvel characters do. I appreciate Marvel for entertaining children, but the genre of superhero does not reflect well about adults with actual responsibilities. The Incredibles were actually more entertaining than these pijama protagonists.

[@freddman0135]

​@Troy342 still not a french playing L'empereur

[@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n]

@@freddman0135 Or Corsican, for that matter!

[@freddman0135]

@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n heh, or a 1,60 man, or that spoke french, or that was born in the 18th centhury

[@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n]

@@freddman0135 I'm going to stick with the Rod Steiger version!

[@solo6045]

Anyone else notice the boat at 5:28 blowing up yet the explosion just doesn't affect the boat whatsoever? Lol looks goofy af

[@cashcarti8937]

Dang that was bad lol can’t deny that

[@blohaj]

yep…

[@visionist7]

Hahaah!

[@Sajasta]

Why did he looks so unimpressed the whole scene? I mean if I'm not wrong, he's quite young and ambitious at this period when he joined the Toulon campaign. And such explosion should've been quite a spectacle for the young artillery officer...

[@TeamGreenBurrito]

Phoenix admitted to Director Scott that he had no idea how to play the character of Bonaparte. He has this pensive ambivilence throughout the entire film.

[@kairos_fluent]

@@TeamGreenBurrito Didn't Phoenix do his own research, instead of relying solely on the director ?

[@irakliasanishvili7398]

I think he might have a concussion after he fell from the horse

[@Fulcrox]

​@@kairos_fluentthe director still dictates how it should play most of the time, Phoenix is an awesome actor, yet his work was completely hindered on this role by lack of direction

[@polycarp3630]

You'd reflect on it later. Not mid-fight.

[@alonsofrancisco6423]

If you want to watch a more accurate representation of Toulon battle, watch the BBC documentary Heroes and Villains, has more impetus for the historical context of this battle 🤟🏻

[@GerryHYH]

My favourite!

[@pamelanickless6221]

And Napoleon is portrayed by an actor of the same age, namely Mr Tom Burke

[@JohnnyRico118]

I was disappointed with this movie overall, mostly that they focused on Napoleon's inadequate love life rather than his military exploits, which is what he's famous for. Despite that, I think this scene was pretty good. This early in the movie I still held out hope it was going to be good.

[@tommyhaynes9157]

Many movies and series are ruined by unnecessary romance. They seem to think they always have to put that in

[@Afflictamine]

seems like everyone is saying similar things, bit of a shame really, they had potential to make something great

[@Dondingdingding]

Napoleon 2002, 100 times better than this one

[@memergas740]

If the name is Napoleon then it is about his story not his god damn military

[@klevens5496]

@@memergas740Napoleon is considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. We don’t need most of the movie showing his love life. Where’s the ACTION?

[@nicolasrice1910]

1. 48-year old JP as 24-year old Napoleon. Very convincing. 2. Napoleonic sappers in knock-off WWI sappenpanzer. Super convincing. 3. The model/CGI/blend/small-scale/CGI-overload ships/explosions/fires. Absolutely convincing. What a masterpiece.

[@nvelsen1975]

Sappenpanzer? Huh? Couldn't you see that was Darth Vader?

[@Fluor66]

@@nvelsen1975 NO! It was Dark Helmet engaging into ludicrous speed......

[@isaiahwilliams7828]

The sapper armor was a real thing used during this era before, and at least up until crimea. It''s one of the few things this film gets right, it was used by the French, Italians, and Poles.

[@uncle7215]

The "knock-off WWI sappenpanzer" you see in the movie did exist. Edouard Detaille's painting of Toulon shows a sapper kitted out in the exact way this movie portrays, with the cuirass and helmet. The costume design was the best thing about this movie. As a uniform & kit enthusiast I can assure you they did an amazing job with the costume design. Shame the rest of the film is mid.

[@jameskarg3240]

Fair points to first and second points, but don't harp on point 3, CGI is basically the nigh-untouchable solution to replicate old-time stuff that, physically and legally, CANNOT practically be built anymore. Youll HAVE to make peace with CGI being lazily put in all films

[@copelandholt8367]

Nothing like a good old fashioned war scene to remind me how Soft I really am living in 2023.

[@ebbu.planespotting1903]

2024 :)

[@theouterrimpatrol567]

Wtf is this obsession with "softness". Living in peace doesn't mean you're soft, it means you're lucky.

[@tysonthomas7094]

Teehee!@@ebbu.planespotting1903

[@fredlandry6170]

Life was very tough for most people over 200 years ago. They would be astounded by our civilization today and they would think of many people these days as soft.

[@Bradyvilleboy]

Be thankful. That may change very soon.

[@Mr.Man2214]

Man hit a moving horse with a cannon at night. That has to be the greatest shot ever.

[@cashcarti8937]

Not just any horse too

[@Bayan1905]

I recently attended a seminar on museum curation, archeology, handling of artifacts, etc. and we were shown how the French and British would use bar shot, normally used for taking out ship's rigging, to take out the legs of cavalry horses in battle.

[@Ben942K]

Just 100 points.

[@alexthepunk84]

When Napoleon said "it's Napoleonin' time" and started Napoleonin on all his ennemies, I was completely. Truly one of the movie of all time.

[@screamingecko2511]

0:06 English soldiers singing in background is actually really good

[@screamingecko2511]

0:11

[@danielborja9109]

Toulon wasnt a Fort it was a very fortified hill, not a superbig change but this set the tone for the rest of the movie

[@AnExtrovertPaints]

I'd say turning a hill with breastworks into a literal castle is a MASSIVE change. And yes, it certainly set the tone for this horrible interpretation.

[@IAmAFamel]

Yeah set the tone for the rest of the movie being absolutely shit

[@lewisnostredame5605]

Well, it's a movie. Not a documentary. And most of what you know from Napoleon is propaganda so humble yourself.

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

​@@lewisnostredame5605I could never humble myself enough to accept a stone fort built up on a stone harbor instead of what was actually there. Revisionism is disgusting, no matter the reason.

[@tonikakueumlixo7817]

3:28 In this scene Napoleon punches the soldier via bluetooth lol

[@BritishTea-eater]

Did you noticed that the bayonet on the rifle is rubber? And it looks so weird

[@austinrooks1787]

So this scene has one small but big historical accuracy this horse he’s on was his first warhorse during his time in war after being emperor and was killed from under him by a cannon ball which he had sent to his mother

[@ralphurrutia5580]

Why couldn’t you just type that like a normal sentence?

[@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid]

@@ralphurrutia5580 Suckers normality for is. 😎

[@DetLyons]

@@ralphurrutia5580sorry professor X 🤓🤓🤓

[@ralphurrutia5580]

@@DetLyons thats…not your comment dude🤨why are you apologizing hehe

[@Abuqital2000]

That made no sense whatsoever, what are you talking about? 😂😂

[@yichuanshih4719]

No animals were harmed during the whole filming.

[@freeman9738]

🙂

[@sohamadhikary1332]

Sorry but Whole lot of inaccuracies all over the movie harmed my brain LOL🤣

[@JoeKerr019]

3:57 [ HOLDFAST FLASHBACKS INTENSIFY]

[@memergas740]

They literally said “VIVE LA FRANCE!” In a British accent lol

[@andrewpatch5027]

*A young french Napoleon* "Hello Governor"

[@albertovalcarenghi350]

"We tore down the gate!" "Yeah, let's storm the walls!"

[@Nostradumlbass]

if they don't take the walls then the defenders can use the walls to attack those coming through the gates, he also sent the extra infantry from behind through the gate, napoleon himself knew it was more important to take the wall than run the gate hence why he charged up the ladders.

[@Proph3t3N]

@@Nostradumlbass Napoleon did not know shit, because he wasn't even close to the walls LMAO. He was on the other side of the bay I believe, taking English fort to threaten their ships... which he did and it directly led to Toulon's surrender shortly after. Won't even comment on him not sending "extra infantry from behind"... my man, he was an ARTILERY commander at the time...

[@Nostradumlbass]

@Proph3t3N did you watch the clip? Sorry I'm not a historian of the battle of toulon, but what I saw was him commanding the infantry forward through the gate and then took the wall himself, why would u comment on a video without even watching the video itself.

[@Proph3t3N]

@@Nostradumlbass because I'm commenting not on the clip, but on the historical facts. I do not care about this historical abomination. Guess that's where I made a mistake, since you obviously talk about film fantasy fiction, not on real events.

[@Nostradumlbass]

@@Proph3t3N why wouldn't I talk about the film when it is a video about the film.... like wtf are u smoking lol

[@MukeshPanicker]

BBC's heroes and villains has the best portrayal of seige of toulon on screen.

[@theoneandonlyfrank8858]

Imagine how much history would change if napoleon died in this

[@olivierbiggs3599]

he nearly did! In real life he was stabbed in the leg at Toulon

[@jacqueslee2592]

The same speculations are made on Hitler.

[@peterjohnson3836]

Napoleon was middle aged in his early 20s. Movie didn’t do him justice

[@StephenLuke]

Yes! He was 24 at the time of the siege of Toulon in 1793.

[@EndZiiel]

Weird how it looked to be a massive movie but no one is talking about it anymore

[@wakeupuk3860]

Because it was crap !! - Simply cannot believe that when much younger and not so experienced Ridley Scott made The Duellists.

[@creasefold1986]

@@wakeupuk3860 The Duellists, great flick.

[@Yourmomsakingsfan]

It really couldn't have been any worse..perhaps one of the worst "historical" movies ever

[@WoofyMcDoodle]

the movies is absolute trash. 90% of the time all you see is grey over grey in the colour palette, the story is way too compressed, the actions shown are mostly wrong and pure fiction (this scene did NOT happen like that in real life). Also Joaquin is not really that good for the role and does not portrait Napoleon how he really was. A more charasmatic, energetic and calculative man, meanwhile he plays him like a 15 year old edgy emo boy with bipolar disorder.

[@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@WoofyMcDoodlebut every account of Napoleon describes him as a petulant impatient person inclined to rage and conceit. He was portrayed accurately. I have a feeling he was about as charismatic as Donald Trump. A certain kind of fool perceives it as charisma when for any developed human it’s off putting and repulsive.

[@beavernation1747]

The fact they made Napoleon human is what I like. You can hear the heavy breathing, the panic and everything

[@RedZenox]

Well Ridley Scott wanted to insult his legacy in this movie really.

[@luisruperez1921]

​@@RedZenox well his legacy deserves little more than mockery

[@Aiden-og6ty]

@@luisruperez1921 one of the most influential men of all time whose legacy is baked into the literal fabric of civil law codes around the world? Stop drinking the kool-aid and learn the history outside of a crappy Ridley Scott retelling

[@cpp3221]

@@luisruperez1921 Idk man, the institutions he set up in place were kept in place by two monarchy, another Empire, and four republic, and served as inspiration as far as in Japan or South America. The man who introduced the rest of Europe to the ideas of political modernity kinda deserve more than that.

[@theunknownuser9609]

@beavernation1747 Same

[@mrcoder7327]

Cinematography: 10 Historicity: 0

[@StephenLuke]

@knight_561 Ditto!

[@lorenzoadami4159]

02:34 - 02:36 I just can't believe a cannonball abruptly opened the body of the horse 😳 Poor beast 😕😢🐴⚰

[@bestestusername]

Tens of millions of horses have died in war, poor animals

[@Bayan1905]

There are photos out there during the Civil War of horses that have been taken out and most were killed by artillery.

[@TemenosL]

What did you think a cannonball would do?

[@rams-wx3us]

@@TemenosL Well shit I didnt expect a cannon shot to hit a moving target from that far

[@rgsaul3]

@@bestestusername people too

[@YankeesFan0620]

I saw it in theaters and I don’t regret it. If the story was a bit longer to work on pacing and relationship development, it could have been great

[@SuperChuckRaney]

should have been 3 movies really. There is too much for one film. Everyone knows the story, no reason to hash out each lil piece in detail, BUT they glazed over most OF the story so it could show "the whole story".

[@drphot6050]

Should've been an historically and musically accurate anime lol

[@geronimocochise2033]

Spain and Portugal weren’t even mentioned, nor Scandinavia

[@SuperChuckRaney]

@@geronimocochise2033 they only had 3 hours to show 30 years of history.

[@jordanwilliams8040]

Shit movie through and through

[@tavish4699]

at the 3 minute mark you can hear machinegun fire in the backround lol hahaha

[@Missouri_Production]

Okay the director writing in the script for a horse to take a cannonball to the chest is uncalled for.

[@danieldobos4088]

That scene is so sad.

[@drfooy9949]

Not how the battle took place. French didn’t even try to take the city, main battle was on a peninsula. French took the fort, Napoleon brought up heavy artillery and force British Navy/army to retreat. French would take the city, many civilians tried to flee on British ships, to escape the pending executions.

[@uliseslimon1354]

Napoleon was only 24 during this battle, sick!

[@StephenLuke]

No doubt about it!

[@SamBrickell]

Hey Directors, if a scene has a musical score it's already "unrealistic" enough that it's ok to use lighting so the audience can actually see.

[@andrew_wow6892]

My favourite moment was when Napoleon said "It's Napoleoning time" and revolutioned all over everyone. Truly, one of the films of all time

[@guywithreallybadchannelnam6184]

This joke was funny for like a week

[@Afflictamine]

xD le funny epic meme, have an updoot sir !

[@dtw8446]

At this battle Napoleon had just turned 24. Phoenix may be a good actor but Napoleon was actually dead before he reached Joaquin's age in the movie.

[@Paarthurnax_x]

0:12 Is that Darth Vader 🤔😂

[@3Dotz16]

No

[@julianlorenc6972]

Yes...even Darth Vader want to serve for Napoleon

[@pancakemacbuttery9142]

Darth Vader secretly sided with Napoleon and supported him

[@MakhlukHalus-s4p]

Its Engineer

[@brettsteele6551]

Can you imagine a film about the American Revolutionary War where the Siege of Yorktown involves Washington’s troops attacking a massive medieval-looking castle? That’s the moral equivalent of this ridiculous and frankly stupid depiction of the culmination of the Siege of Toulon.

[@Neo11111]

Yes, wasn't it raining for one thing, not at night? And it didn't all happen in the space of ten minutes but the following afternoon after the fall of the forts? This scene makes it look like some kind of brilliant lighting strike ending with the quick destruction of the British fleet! Plus it doesn't show that Napoleon was bayoneted by a British soldier and could have died. Ridley Scott taking liberties for the sake of entertainment.

[@DetLyons]

Sorry didn’t know you were there and knew exactly what happened John Adams. This is the problem with historical films. Directors try to have fun with it and wanna be historians act like it’s propaganda. It’s a movie bloke.

[@Neo11111]

@@DetLyons ah, I seem to have triggered one of Ridley Scott's staff or family...sorry to hurt your sensitivities.

[@brettsteele6551]

@@DetLyons No, I only researched the Siege of Toulon in my PhD dissertation on the history of ballistics. What I don’t understand is why directors decline to portray seriously dramatic historical facts, like Bonaparte getting a stabbed with a pike at Toulon.

[@paulhomsy2751]

There are quite a few "creative freedom" inconsistencies. The curved sword was only used by Napoleon and his men after the campaign in Egypt where he saw the efficacy of that shape of blade, not at Toulon, long before that campaign. Another incongruity, not in this segment is at Austerlitz where a few men wear their hats in the same manner Napoleon does, parallel to his shoulders. He was the only one wearing his hat in this manner in order to be distinguished from a distance on the battlefield. The officers who wore a similar hat wore it at ninety degrees angle from their shoulders. It's a film...

[@rodderyup7401]

After personally spending the best part of a year in Toulon , I wish he’d have turned the cannons on the city instead . Nice beaches though

[@No_lie_eli]

Everyone in history speaks in a British accent, according to Ridley Scott.

[@paulmorrison-hs4lw]

no such thing as a British accent

[@thomasvillejeff-yw4st]

After watching "300" it was believed that King Leonidas was Scottish and 6' 2". In fact he was only 5' 4" and was Puerto Rican in real life.

[@paulmorrison-hs4lw]

@thomasvillejeff-yw4st well I thought Willy Wallace was a half drunk Ozzie lol

[@No_lie_eli]

@@paulmorrison-hs4lw His characters all speak in a Scottish, English, Welsh, or Northern Irish accent. There ya go buddy.

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

bro the movie is in english for english audiences wtf did you expect?

[@roccoautelitano7330]

0:49, Napoleon turns his hat, 1:20 magic hat back to original way.

[@pbh9195]

Im kinda torn, it's a well done and shot set peace, but my inner historian rages with the sight of inaccuracies.

[@wakeupuk3860]

Absolutely and I am no great historian but the four cases of 'black' senior French army officers ruined the whole film for me, as like so much Woke vehicle propaganda films that state such a complete lie, as when he met Wellington at the end that the film was a total farce.

[@pbh9195]

@@wakeupuk3860 There was one black officer in Napoleon's army named Thomas-Alexandre Dumas which I think was supposed to be a wink to that. But such people in Bonie's army were so few if not non-existent. Throwing in a person of color in a French uniform without proper context can break a historical films immersion. Like that Mary Queen of Scots movie

[@DetLyons]

Then you are no fun to drink around

[@Centauran_warfare]

4:14 napoleon ignoring the intense fight in the back💀

[@MrLennart1976]

That horse cannonball shot is way unrealistic though... At that angle, it would have passed right through the horse and into him.

[@memergas740]

His horse died accurately in the movie and u didn’t know that eh? His horse got shot by a round shot loaded cannon under the horse (or the chest)

[@WhatEvenIsAGoodName]

Uh, not really, it hit the horse in the chest which is under where the rider sits, and the cannonball was coming from on high, and would have been angled downwards. Besides, the shot stuck in the horse, he fished it out after the battle.

[@ayebing]

Bc It hit the horse in the boney part

[@zachschendt7201]

So no ones watching the walls. Thats accurate 😂

[@Benmcg1992]

Isn’t napoleon meant to be 24 here not 59?

[@StephenLuke]

Joaquin wasn't 59, he was in his late 40s during production.

[@Xblackhawkx9]

One day this story will get told properly...

[@swiggityswoogity705]

2:31 THAT SHOT WAS VICIOUS! First time I saw that I was disgusted and in awe at the same time, that was just an amazing CGI gore scene

[@leeroy4980]

I heard they went through 12 horses to get the right shot !

[@Plaazzzz]

The most accurate thing they got in this movie was darth vader laying down the explosives 💀

[@75thRangerguy]

Rip the poor horse

[@propiggaming921]

🐎❌

[@jeremyjohnson2466]

Why’s everyone talking shit? I liked the movie. Sure I was expecting to like it a bit more than I did but I still enjoyed it.

[@badumpoo]

fr

[@Slayer398]

Great, *you* loved the movie. Everyone else is holding the movie to the historical standards Ridley decided to skip when making his "historical epic" and aren't happy about it.

[@felluniverse]

I'm a Native from Toulon, seeing this scene feels me with pride, proud of the Soldiers who took back my city from the ennemies, thanks to them I'm French again. Gloire à l'empereur !

[@angusmcculloch6653]

And you can thank America you're French and not German

[@felluniverse]

@@angusmcculloch6653 Indeed, but the French resistance helped a lot too

[@dynamo1796]

lol you realise that the vast majority of the troops in Toulon were French royalists right. Of the 20,000 troops in he city when Napoleon and the republicans attacked, only 8000 were British regulars The rest were French militia and royalists. The British only lost 400 men and, upon seeing the guns of the Republicans on the hills overlooking the harbour, seeing that it made the British fleet’s position untenable, they boarded their ships and sailed away in good order. So it was a fight of Frenchmen against Frenchmen. Win or lose, they’d all still be speaking French.

[@Delogros]

Interesting, so the French population of the city who where mostly Royalists somehow wern't French? you understand Toulon wasn't conquered right? Various nations sent forces to try and keep it free of the Republicans, none of them ever claimed it, it was always french just the opositite side of your own revolution/civil war, they where still Frenchman though.

[@alexandercrush]

This movie makes it seems like he didn't even really care about anything besides his wife.

[@bennoble2049]

Kevin Hart would have been a better choice for the role of Napoleon 🇫🇷.

[@captainr800]

😂

[@345mrse]

Who’s Kevin Fart?

[@staliniosifvissarionovich5588]

lol

[@kairos_fluent]

At best, if there was a scene about the Haitian Revolution he could've been an extra with no speaking part.

[@bennoble2049]

@@kairos_fluent 😆

[@jordan605632]

When mom says “we have Napoleon at home”

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

Good cinematography. For a night battle, it's fairly clear what's happening.

[@nod5394]

Ridley Scott never fails with cinematography

[@marcusdolby1]

I think everyone is missing the point, Napolean was brave, but reserved in the face of stress. Napolean was an excellent strategist, but timid. Napolean was resourceful, but let success get to his head. Napolean was patriotic, but a ruthless dictator. Napolean was a very conflicted man, and this led to his downfall.

[@Huey_710]

I had high hopes for this movie, but it just wasn't good the pacing was the movie was all over the place so much was either skipped over or they speed ran through it. Also this is the one time I'll say Joaquin Phoenix didn't play the role well and in general seems like a bad choice to play Napoleon.

[@ConstantineJoseph]

In reality the defenders were not caught by surprise. Also the French weathered Grape shot fire prior to scaling the fort which was a fearsome weapon against infantry. Fighting in the fort was hand to hand and Napoleon was in the thick of the action and being wounded. This tremendous victory at Toulon saved the French revolution and made him an overnight hero of the nation

[@poil8351]

also the fleet was scuttled by the british to prevent it being captured by sir Sydney smith who was a rather intresting character.

[@healdogtoe2c]

What a strange portrayal of Napoleon.

[@bhanson4917]

Think I'll just watch The Duelists again thanks, Ridley.

[@LoudaroundLincoln]

The Duellists had me so excited for this film. My disappointment was insane. I'm an adult, I shouldn't be that upset about it.

[@Dreez76]

Why didn't they setup the ladders and prepare to climb *before* settings off the explosion and firing mortars... they would've been able to enter the walls almost instantly.

[@westrim]

God this is painful to watch, from the lack of sentries to the apparent use of white phosphorous 120 years early.

[@Dave_1232]

ok

[@xdlmao7880]

The brits sang drunken sailor I suppose 😅

[@raihanfarrelofficial]

Imagine Arno was there

[@Pepsivsdietcola8755]

2:28 looks like a video game

[@elfontanero1484]

Spectacular codswallop. Boney never climbed a scaling ladder in his life. What he did do at Toulon was more interesting: he set up a battery in an exposed position that commanded the harbour. Many of his men were GETTING killed or wounded, so he encouraged them by putting up a sign saying: LA BATTERIE DES HOMMES SANS PEUR. He drove out the British warships, ensured victory, and launched his career.

[@SiliconBong]

At least they got historically accurate when Darth Vader gave the okay 1:09 .

[@BillyBob-bd1hj]

He was wounded by a bayonet in the battle

[@elfontanero1484]

Right!@@SiliconBong

[@felixmurat1677]

I mean, he did personally lead a charge over the walls of Fort Mulgrave. And even suffered a bayonet wound that came inches from ending his life.

[@gindenburg2412]

My favoirute scene in the film was only the sound of artillery 4:45 and also the moment with Austerlitz (the sound of artillery). I think it was the only one, which pleased me in the film

[@MrShenyang1234]

Absolutely Amazing! Napoleon was a great Military Strategist. Too bad about Waterloo. I suppose you can't win forever. Sadly, he was banished from his own country. The one he faithfully served for his entire lifetime.

[@MultiCren]

Unfortunately nosey taught him a bloody good lesson and sent that pesky little frog packing.

[@hrvsmart]

how did it serve his country to send his army to freeze to death in russia?

[@justiceavenger275]

​​@@hrvsmart its russia's fault to deny Napolean not his fault.

[@hrvsmart]

@@justiceavenger275 what the fuck are you saying? Make sense

[@justiceavenger275]

@@hrvsmart Yes , I do .

[@asacloutier7530]

That horse cg gore was straight out of the PS3 era.

[@darylwilliams7883]

The only scene in the movie with a resemblance to actual events.

[@Tolbiakful]

3:57 I love how they say "vive la france" with an english accent.

[@Hey_its_Koda]

This looks like film i would have to watch in high school history class for 3 days. Beg for it to be over. Probably fall asleep on my desk once the teacher turns the lights off. 😂😂😂

[@SergioBecerraII]

I don’t care what anybody says, this was a good movie.

[@Noma-de]

Sem esses homens Napoleão seria nada

[@edwardspencer3906]

See a LOT of complaints about Phoenix, Director, Story line... ALL I know is that I NEVER saw a car chase or crash and barely dressed actors cavorting around..May not be Perfect but I am Grateful for it...

[@aldosigmann419]

Beautifully done!

[@svxnger]

say what you will about the movie as a whole, but the war scenes were some of the best ever made

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

I've seen the 10-minute clip of the battle of Austerlitz. I tend to disagree.

[@Sahilprakash1999]

2:34 whoa did that cannon fires at Napoleon's horse

[@ArchaicTTV]

whoa it did, wow, whoa..

[@staliniosifvissarionovich5588]

That's true, but it didn't happen in this battle. That happened in 1814, when a cannonball hit Napoleon's horse and the horse saved his life. Napoleon also had quite a few dead horses, the reason being that he often passed close to the enemy's artillery range.

[@xathu-er2zr]

not sure since i don't see any canon ball after horse get hit by it

[@Sahilprakash1999]

@@xathu-er2zr when the cannon fires i saw it

[@xathu-er2zr]

@@Sahilprakash1999 ok, must be, but should both Napoleon and that horse send fly like 10ft away ?

[@bandit8770]

This scene is badass, idc about what everyone is saying about how it's inaccurate

[@danielbarrero2815]

Amazing sequence

[@syukrinasir3774]

Napoleon: Take the fortress, we won't take any prisoners. Soldiers: How, Your Majesty? Napoleon: 4:06

[@hannibalimperial1212]

VIVE L’EMPEREUR VIVE LA FRANCE

[@nickrig]

They could've at least made Napoleon look and act like Napoleon.

[@cartooch9549]

Ridley Scott can be criticized for a lot of things, but when it comes to filming epic battle scenes, he's a genius at it.

[@joserocha6880]

you're goddamn right

[@gudhaxer41343]

Not in this movie. None of the battle scenes felt big nor epic. It looked like 100 men on screen fighting.

[@skyguy1988]

They really should have chosen Robert Pattinson for this film, he already proved himself with several medieval movies and stuff like that I think he would have fit masterfully in here as much as I love phoenix. Plus Pattinson absolutely nails the French accent spectacularly.

[@hankhammer869]

Napoleon was a tactitian. & oversaw no more so the level of hand to hand fighting as such a general such as Eisnhower did on D day by the guns vs direct from the front engagement. Being by this point a more stoic veteran, his emotion as a chracter in the film preached more that of a civilian director portraying w/out otherwise military historian or veteran expertise input, a watered down fantastical adventure of a fellow green civilian leading a war vs a war leader leading green civilians into a beleivable meat grinding hell that was napoleonic warfare.

[@felixmurat1677]

To be fair, Napoleon did receive a bayonet wound at the assault of Mulgrave.

[@MrSneaksful]

Napoleon was only 24 in this battle and only senior gunner and artillery commander of the forces that arrived at Toulon. He just came up with a plan to take a hill that will make the british evacuate the area. He was no major general or leader of anything other than the artillery units at this point.

[@manueltorres5225]

Love the realism, my favourite part is French soldiers saying "Vive la france" with an english accent

[@cleyton6648]

Batalha de Toulon na França muito bom