Napoleon Forms His Forces In The Battle of Austerlitz | Napoleon

Napoleon is an epic historical drama based on the story of Napoleon Bonaparte, primarily depicting the French leader's rise to power and he joins the forces to strike against the opponents. Napoleon becomes the crowned Emperor of the French by the pope in 1804, during which he audaciously puts the crown on his own head. Foreign Minister Talleyrand suggests to Austria an alliance, though the Austrians dismiss the idea, and the battle starts!
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[@maxpayne7696]

Napoleon at Austerlitz : Appears weak on his right flank to bait the Russian into concentrating their attack there, then sends his center to assault the Pratzen height to cut the enemy army in half, create confusion and shoot down the retreating soldiers from the hill. Ridley Scott: "No lol he just hid soldiers under white blankets"

[@Frederick_II]

"Lol no line tactics were very not effective so he just comfortably hid the soldierd in white blankets bcs it snowy"

[@wonderfalg]

Perfect summary.

[@ricksmith9088]

No Chateau de Clermont in Waterloo battle either

[@MartyrMaker0311USMC]

This was a calculation that his released force would do as instructed. Unfortunately, when the infantry is released....good luck reeling them back in.

[@PG-kt1hz]

5:46 "Send in the infantry, take their positions on the High ground!" Shows Troops charging downwards. God this scene felt like watching a carwreck.

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

And the way it actually happened would have been so much better - a foggy morning - through the mist, the Russians and Austrians slowly marching off the heights in order to attack the seemingly weak right flank of the French (where Davout's corps was arriving to bolster the defence) - at the same time, the men of Soult's IVth French corps hurrying ~up~ those same hills by another route, hidden by the fog - the sun coming out, quickly dispersing the fog - and the few remaining Allied troops on the heights suddenly finding themselves facing a bunch of grinning Frenchmen going "Bon matin, messieurs!"...

[@NixonRules963]

I also love how he's like "Let them think they have the high ground" as he stands on the hill overlooking the battle and the Austrians advance across a flat icy lake lmao

[@Icepummel]

@@NixonRules963 THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I was so confused cause he's talking about high ground and I'm like "uhhh mfer the only high ground is the hill you're standing on"

[@pancakemacbuttery9142]

Bro Ridley Scott thought the battle of Austerlitz was the Somme

[@mcbrians.8508]

i think phoenix meant the upper hand lol. what was i doing defending ridley’s shenanigans 😂

[@pancakemacbuttery9142]

Sources Ridley Scott used: Mount and blade Wikipedia World War I Battle of Hastings

[@DlomedeS]

😂😂😂

[@davexorus9836]

😁😁😁

[@markmurphy8078]

Brilliant 😩😏😉💔

[@Galicious141]

Don't forget the Holdfast

[@GayorgVonTrapp]

And the battle at that place where Jar Jar Binks came from ... Neverland or something ?

[@sayyedwaqas4764]

Still cannot believe that a Ridley Scott movie would be this hard to watch! If only he had focused more on the military aspects of Napolean like in this scene instead of magnifying solely his toxic relationship with his wife. What an epic missed opportunity on such an epic topic.

[@feeblemind]

All our old heroes have been destroyed. Western Media is a dead horse with no head still bucking not realizing it's dead.

[@aguythatworkstoomuch4624]

Agreed

[@luisdaniel7027]

💯

[@dahrust]

Probably because this is a satirical comedy made by Brits on the french. Now have any decent director or michael bay with a large budget, you got yourselves an oscar.

[@edumalafaia11]

That is so unusual from Ridley Scott, he did The Duelists, a master piece movie that happens during the Napolean Wars. I dont understand his decision here

[@MrPhotoman75]

This makes me want to re-watch Waterloo (1970) with Rod Steiger as Napoleon and Christopher Plummer as the Duke of Wellington.

[@valentinius62]

A classic film.

[@Frederick_II]

Way better than this b.s. garbage. -a 12 yr old that actually knows something besides BULLSHIT

[@SmokeDog1871]

Ya its amazing

[@Demun1649]

I saw that at the world premier on the first release of the film. WHY HAVE YOU NOT GOT THE DVD? And that film, although exciting, was not accurate in the way that infantry moved, nor the way that cavalry charged. And it did leave out the thousands of British troops that ran away, ala Corunna and Dunkirk, and were charged and shot for desertion in the face of the enemy. Rather than watch a film, why not read the regimental histories of the regiments who fought, on the ENGLISH side, at Mont Saint Jean.

[@Demun1649]

@@valentinius62 With a LOT of errors. "Historical inaccuracies, While the film portrays the events of the Hundred Days quite faithfully, including some allusions to and scenes from the Battle of Ligny and of Quatre Bras, there were a few departures from historical fact, presumably made for artistic purposes, and some characters act as ciphers for others. In the opening scene, where the marshals are attempting to persuade Napoleon to abdicate, Marshal Soult is present: in reality, in 1814 Soult was commanding the defence of Toulouse against Wellington's Army. The Duchess of Richmond tells Wellington that she does not want her daughter "to wear black before she wears white". The tradition of the bride wearing white did not become widespread until the 1840s, following Queen Victoria's wedding. At the Duchess of Richmond's ball (which itself was held in a former carriage house rather than the magnificent ballroom depicted, there is an entirely fictional romantic sub-plot with Lord Hay and one of the Duchess' daughters. However, her daughter Sarah did recall Lord Hay being present at the ball. Perhaps the biggest inaccuracy in the film is the battleground itself: having had torrential rain the previous night, which delayed the French attack until midday, the battlefield was extremely muddy. In consequence, the British cavalry, in reality, would not have been able to acquire the speed shown in the film before encountering the French columns. However, here, as elsewhere, the film replicates a famous painting of the battle, in this case Elizabeth Thompson's 1881 work Scotland Forever!, which depicts the Royal Scots Greys galloping towards the enemy. Another inaccuracy is that the Household cavalry do not seem to appear in the film at all. Further, Ponsonby, commander of the Union Brigade, is believed to have initially been taken prisoner by French cavalry, before being killed during a failed rescue attempt. In the film, he tells the Earl of Uxbridge that Ponsonby's father had been killed in battle by lancers, not least because he had been riding an inferior horse: in fact his father had been a politician who died of natural causes back in England, and he is simply foretelling his own fate in the battle. The British cavalry charge was aimed at d'Erlon's corps, but in the film the cavalry do not appear to engage French infantry at all, but instead charge straight into French artillery, scattering French gunners before themselves being driven back by French lancers, in scenes that bear some cinematic resemblance to the Charge of the Light Brigade. Nor are any 92nd Highlanders seen hanging onto their stirrups as they charge, as was recalled by Corporal Dickson of "F" Troop of the Scots Greys. Overall, the film almost completely ignores the Dutch-Belgian and German elements of the army under Wellington's command, giving the impression that the allied army was essentially British. In reality, the British contingent was less than half of Wellington's troops. Unlike the Prussians in the film, arriving at the right flank of the French force, General Bülow's 4th corps attacked at the rear-right of the French lines at the village of Plancenoit. Napoleon sent first his reserve corps (under General Lobau) and then the Second Foot Grenadiers, the second-most-senior corps of his Imperial Guard, to engage and delay these Prussians while maintaining his front line; these clashes in and around the village of Plancenoit were crucial to the battle but are not depicted in the film. (Around 7:30 p.m., another Prussian corps under Marshal Blücher arrived on the battlefield to link with the British army on the grounds of the inn La Belle Alliance, sealing the fate of the French force-as shown in the film.) Prussian infantry in the film was depicted wearing black coats, which was only prevalent in certain militia bands such as the Lützow Free Corps. The regimental standards utilized by said advancing army, did not correspond with the presumably depicted Free Corps, which used the Prussian Landwehr standard. The Duke of Gordon is depicted as leading his Gordon Highlanders into battle, and is described by the Duchess of Richmond as "uncle": in fact, he is a composite character, representing the contributions of several members of the House of Gordon. The Duke at the time, the founder and colonel of the regiment, was the Duchess of Richmond's father, and he saw no active service overseas during the Napoleonic Wars. His son and the Duchess's brother, the Marquis of Huntly (later the 5th Duke) was a distinguished general, but held no command in the campaign, although anecdotal evidence suggests that he arrived during the aftermath of the battle. The senior representative of the family at the battle was in fact the Duchess's own twenty-three-year-old son, the Earl of March, who would eventually become the 5th Duke's heir in 1836, and who served as a major and an aide-de-camp (ADC) to the Duke of Wellington. Another branch of the family was represented by another ADC, Colonel Sir Alexander Gordon, aged twenty-eight or twenty-nine, the brother of the Earl of Aberdeen. In reality, both were young men similar in age and duty to Lord Hay. The field commander of the Gordon regiment during the campaign, Lieutenant Colonel, John Cameron of Fassiefern, had been killed at the battle of Quatre Bras on 16 June. The acting commander of the regiment during the battle appears to have been Major Donald MacDonald of Dalchosnie. Lord Hay is seen being killed during the French cavalry attack, whilst inside a British square, with Wellington witnessing his death. Hay was actually killed at the Battle of Quatre Bras, two days earlier. The story of the refusal of the guard to surrender has been the subject of much controversy over the centuries. Commander of the last Imperial Guard square, General Pierre Cambronne, is portrayed as responding "merde" although he denied it later. Nor did he say, "La garde meurt et ne se rend pas!" ("The Guard dies and does not surrender!") which is believed to have been uttered by General Claude-Étienne Michel, commander of the Middle Guard. Cambronne did not die in the battle, and having been knocked unconscious, was captured by Colonel Hugh Halkett, commander of the 3rd Hanoverian Brigade. He later married the Scottish nurse who cared for him after the battle, and died in 1842. The song "Boney Was a Warrior" sung when Wellington's troops are awaiting the attack was not written until after the battle."

[@FinestaGang]

Time to watch Kings and Generals or Epic History TV to cleanse my self!

[@darren5376]

ALSO HISTORYMARCHE

[@caiosouzapistelli4087]

We all need bro

[@aronsebastian6943]

Same here bro

[@miklosferencz219]

Someone pls send a link to Ridley Scott

[@ThomasTubeHD]

Everyone should save themselves from that garbage to watch documentaries made by History KZbinrs which are WAY MORE accurate and awesome, plus they are FREE TO WATCH

[@CAnnino054]

While incredibly historically inaccurate, this is a beautifully shot battle scene. Something which is rare in big screen productions these days.

[@Anti-Groomer]

What do you mean? Modern movies in this woke era are all battle scene and no reasonable plot or dialogue. Modern movies can be summed up by: Superhero landing (by a strong woman of color), followed by some snark and/or virtue signaling. That is all they all....superhero landings and gen Z snark.

[@glennmandigo6069]

Yeah. As a Military History buff, the inaccuracy is disappointing, but at least Scott compensated with great action scenes So, as far as I am concerned, he is still one of the best film creators in history

[@johnsardonius5711]

@@Anti-Groomer ΟΗ ΜΥ GOD HELP US FROM THE WOKE

[@edgaraf9411]

​@@Anti-Groomerah you're a bot or just dumb.

[@froggystyle642]

@@johnsardonius5711 yeah your redditor opponent smacks of pedorasty

[@slider903]

As bad as this scene is for its complete disregard for history I will praise the heck out of the music. It struck a chord in me. Really showed the hell that is war and honestly I struggle to come back to this video because of the music and the fact that men fell through the ice (which was historically accurate). Haunting. Made me want to pursue peace and no time like now to push for that.

[@ThePfunkadunkasaur]

Yeah man, I felt the exact same way! The historical inaccuracies were a letdown, but the bigger disappointment was just realizing how awful and horrific war really is irl… especially seeing all these men and horses fall to their watery deaths in the icy depths. Chilling!! Truly hard to watch, knowing that something similar Did happen in reality (however skewed the numbers, size of the body/bodies of water, etc.)… Movie left me conflicted; pissed at the pacing and portrayal of the man, but this particular scene was quite epic and masterfully executed! Great soundtrack/original score as well…

[@a5c0rbic]

you can give some leeway to ridley scott and say that no movie has to be 100% historically accurate. but whats truly regrettable isnt just the fact that this battle nowhere near resembles the actual battle of austerlitz, but also the fact that if scott had just told the story of austerlitz as it happened it would certainly have been more entertaining - where the austrians and russians werent just idiots who walked on ice. a crying shame.

[@quakerome4594]

I heard this movie lacked, but as someone that lacked on History during school , watching this movie made me appreciate why Napoleon was important in History lessons during the time I grew up.

[@MarkTill-vt3ku]

read a book , this film is a pathetic representation of what actually happened

[@Thomas-uu9ex]

@@MarkTill-vt3kuyou so right !

[@quakerome4594]

@@MarkTill-vt3ku I will agree, the movie could have been better. But it was good enough for me to learn a little about Napoleon the goat.

[@topstaruser00]

@Quakerome4594 that's the thing, this movie doesn't teach you about how Napoleon was the goat. it's wrong.

[@Bare36]

Watch Epic History TV And you will understand who was the Napoleon

[@Godisgood007]

I must admit, this scene shows great technical production quality and effects, although the historical inaccuracies just shine way too brightly

[@wonderfalg]

I shit on the technical quality like Scott shat on history.

[@philipthecow]

Given the gross inaccuracies they may as well have added sharks in the lake. Or have orcas attack people through the ice. That would have been really cool!

[@wonderfalg]

Or simply add some russian zombies, because... why not?

[@HivoltageCS]

@@wonderfalg The attack of the dead men but 110 years earlier

[@SellsZac]

I really wanted to love this movie.

[@Frederick_II]

My Mother knowing i'm a history fan actually was the first to tell me about this film about months earlier before this was released, i nevr got to watch it but thank god i didn't get myself watching this excuse for a napoleonic movie

[@DutchWestIndianCo]

Same here

[@AprendizNovo]

Y la amaste con todo tu ser?😻

[@jingleheimerschmidt326]

By "higher ground" I think the term they were searching for was "element of surprise." They seriously should've talked to some Napoleonic war reenactors/historians and gotten some serious feedback

[@armandomendoza9028]

GOSH !!!! I have been a buff of Napoleonic history for 30+ years and until now I never realized all those books I carefully read and all those documentaries I watched were just fake. Thank you Riddley Scott for showing me the light!!!!!

[@SmokeDog1871]

Ridley Scott's new alternative history

[@rshoe1023]

I know why can't they just stick to facts! This movie would of been so much better if he would of!

[@EN-Fitz]

Scott took the most documented, well known battle, in military history, and this is how he filmed it?

[@jeffstut55]

As soon as I saw it was snowfall, I knew it was going to be bad. They can’t even get the weather right, that’s like failing step 1.

[@samhavoc1066]

Ridley Scott's Napoleon. Dumpster fire filled with radioactive material...

[@JC-sd2mx]

agreed....it was a terrible disappointment.

[@Th0rchagan]

How nice for Napoleon to prepare an ice bath for those soldiers... I hear the health benefits are incredible.

[@user-jc4sv1sx6s]

Тогда попробуй сам искупаться в ледяной воде)

[@MrShipBuff]

Napoleon IRL: one of the, if not, the greatest strategist of his time. Continues to be (imo) the best military commanders in human history. Napoleon movie: hyug hyug, me hide troop under da bwankets, hyug hyug. Hyug hyug, JosephinexNapoleon get biggest scween time, hyug hyug

[@juliannolucien7638]

Pour mémoire, les étangs avaient 30 centimètres de profondeur…par contre le Kyrie en chant polyphonique corse est un coup de génie. ❤

[@WizardOfHumor1989]

Went and saw this with my family around thanksgiving 2023 and this epic score to this scene blew me away big time. Especially when it came to the three men on horseback treading water and one horse getting hit in the temple with a hail of gunfire, and a dying man who panics while he’s being slowly and painfully crushed to death by his dead horse.

[@vikentioss]

Historical Accuracy apart... this scene was one of my favorite one in the movie. It's very well made.

[@tombombadil9123]

Napoleonic Wars deserve a proper production. So far, De Laurentiis and Bondarchuk version is still the best. But it's only the one battle. There's also the French mini series with Christin Clavier as Napoleon. But that's about it. Supprisingly sparse filmography on one of the most extraordinary persons in world history. Scot's attempt may be good cinematography, but it is highly historically inaccurate. So I guess one thing balances the other

[@chaosXP3RT]

I recommend the Napoleon series by Epic History TV

[@Diego-it6gr]

Also the Waterloo movie from 1970 by Soviet Cinema.

[@PeterParker-yr8yb]

The research into the history of napoleon for this film is hysterical.

[@Frederick_II]

Sources are probably some games ridley scott heard of

[@mprpo946]

Very honestly, I think that this battle is pretty cool to watch, it has a small part of veracity, (very small one, because the battle was way more than this), but I think we must think of seeing this like a movie, a MOVIE, and not a historical movie ... Very sadly, but it's the way it is ...

[@wonderfalg]

Then it should be called anything else than Napoleon. Better film title "Scotts alternate history" for example.

[@alexconn7473]

Even if it wasn't entirely historically accurate the movie was still a pretty impressive piece of cinematic brilliance and this scene definitely shows napoleon's strategical brilliance even if it wasn't the tactics the man had used in real life still the brilliance comes mainly from using the environment against his enemies tricking them into retreating onto the frozen lake and destroying the ice with cannons once they're on it is a sign of strategic brilliance as it uses a important factor by working it into your favor

[@marcrussette3467]

That was awesome

[@tevzcrnic4456]

Apparently Holywood doesn't have enough money to hire a historian or something.

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

I understand there actually were historical advisers. I've seen a screenshot of somebody writing on twitter (or whatever it's called these days) about them speaking at some event at Paris Sorbonne. (And complaining bitterly about the director of this movie not listening to anyone.)

[@user-zc4vm6ze1k]

Respect to Great Emperor Napoleon

[@tigertex7257]

Damn that is brutal but smart 😮

[@solar2k6]

Welp time for a well done Netflix series (if one doesn’t already exist) thanks to Ridley Scott we won’t trust Napoleon on the silver screen again anytime soon

[@empchampion40k]

Unfortunately, Napoleon's life is so big that it boggles the mind trying to tell it all in just a few hours.

[@chaosXP3RT]

I recommend the Napoleon series by Epic History TV

[@17461771]

History will always remember commanders. And other commanders.

[@chinesecommunists1622]

Blood and iron POV me when I musket aim at me : 9:39

[@iggyagoncillo3199]

Lol + no replies and no comments? Lemme fix that

[@peterhaa2540]

Soldiers fighting in snow and sinking into the icy depths = vikings soundtrack :D

[@erlendnr]

While it sounds like it's not historically accurate, I've rewatched this scene a few times nontheless since it's epic.

[@Jake-xe4cv]

...I hope it's better than the Waterloo bit where the Emperor going riding in a cavalry charge. Laughed, I nearly shat....

[@wonderfalg]

Really a scene? I strongly have to avoid this film at any costs.

[@ricksmith9088]

Ridley Scott has no idea what a skirmisher is but he really makes guys drown dramatically. Game over man, game over.

[@Sajasta]

My Napoleon Total War campaign is a lot more accurate than this movie, the only inaccuracy in my game is that i lost Marechal Ney, Davout, and Massena when invading Britain at 1806

[@otterlydivergent6540]

Damn, all this time I imagined him to have an accent!!! Thank you Hollywood for showing me the light.

[@kenny187ful]

Apparently Napoleon had a built in megaphone for a voice, he could shout orders to 70,000 men across miles of battlefield, who needs General Staff anyways.

[@user-hp2eh5oe2l]

It was a beautiful depiction, tis better to exile twice as opposed to Martyr. Semper Fi!

[@zeta490]

Lol image no one heard him since there so far away there like 'how long do we go?" "dont know he just mouthing words"

[@nalakafernando9201]

Great human, respect him.

[@michaelnaretto3409]

I think it would have been better if just one battle was the focus. Waterloo is just such a movie.

[@marcgarcia549]

because this director is interested in depicting the war prowesses of great historical civilitzacions and characters

[@ericksainz4041]

I think this movie might have been more focused in war scenes (like spartacus, game of thrones, 1917 or any biographic war movie) instead of focusing all movie on Josephine’s relationship (which scenes are really embarrasing to see), I wanted this movie to be more belic and talking about his military career and making more epic battles.

[@saigonpozoamie2474]

He did not have a radio but could still order the cavalry to attack at the right time. Intelligence reconnaissance activities have no place to act. This movie is showing the effectiveness of the silliest script rehearsals possible. The film breaks with historical documents.

[@ArqueoInventario]

Balas de cañón con alcance, potencia y cadencia ilimitados

[@PanaosSi-pc9uw]

Gutes video über die geschichte.

[@wonderfalg]

Hä? Dann lerne erst einmal Geschichte. An der Szene wie im gesamten Film ist alles falsch.

[@themetadaemon]

Sorry David, you can't Alan Smithee this one...

[@hongcheng6144]

Napoleon means he values people’s confirmation when they got saved by your help to move him to the right place and time to get his food etc. He believes only people are alive will be honest and be kind to others

[@thijshagenbeek6554]

This just hurts. Its simply painfull..

[@littlepotato5223]

How can one make a historic film and not add the historic accuracy part to it! i mean sure some lenience here and there but... holy..

[@loyalpiper]

Even if it wasn't historically accurate some of the problems would be taken out if it was a good film, aka braveheart for example but just no.

[@davidh7071]

It's always a scene like this that makes the average viewer wonder what was so great about these generals and conquerors. People are never shown the strategic brilliance they employed, they just send two sides running at each other until one side is killed off. And the general just shouts some redundant commands.

[@hedonisticpunkvatos]

Obi read his history and he too had the higher ground in the end.

[@marycampeau9378]

i can't remember when i have been so disappointed by a movie i was so excited to see

[@ob9609]

I haven't been so excited for a film and so let down ever. Literally none Austerlitz happened like this.

[@Historyoforworld]

History enthusiasts, Austerlitz was Napoleon's tactical masterpieces, Napoleon abandoned Pratzen Heights to deceive Austro-Russian forces, he deliberately made his right flank look weak to lure them into a trap while his forces launched a total assault on allies center. Musket fire was so intense that visibility was limited and both sides were soon low on ammunition. So this is the best Ridley Scott could really come up with?

[@nohabloemojislosiento4930]

Sucks that this movie reduced one of the most fanatically driven, demonstrative men in history to being a simp. A man who sought the subjugation of the world. Who would not admit mistakes and had great vanity along with great skill. Napoleon’s life, without embellishment, is one of the craziest lives ever lived. There’s a handful of men like this. You need not twist the story of Genghis, the truth is wilder than anything most could imagine. Just the battle of Waterloo, told in actuality, could be a 3 hour long epic that blows the mind of any viewer. That’s what this should have been. Napoleon rose from chaos of a revolving door French Revolution and conquered Europe. He redrew the map, destroyed old institutions, weakened the church, and changed the course of world history, for better or worse. You had all the budget, you had a great actor, and the result is this story of a sad little man subject to the whims of a woman.

[@emilkorszun1715]

Why Austrian Hussars are mixed with Cuirassier's? Film is so hard to watch if you love history.

[@FrankSinatrq]

I’m seeing a ton of comments on that the movie isn’t realistic. Well, every movie you see about something historic like Titanic, The Alamo, and people in movies. Like Elvis, Priscilla, it will NEVER BE PERFECTLY ACCURATE! So just watch it! Plus, it was intense and VERY GOOD! (Yes, I’m a huge historian when it comes to Napoleon, Titanic, etc.)

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

I'm very ready to grant Ridley Scott or whoever is responsible for the storyline the right to tell whatever story they want to tell. But. I also grant everybody watching this the right to be disappointed in their expectations. If you call a movie "Napoleon" and make this scene about the "battle of Austerlitz", people might expect to actually get to see Napoleon and the battle of Austerlitz. That much should be clear to producers and storywriters. Plus, the actual battle of Austerlitz is so much more interesting and engaging than the movie version.

[@FrankSinatrq]

⁠@@josefavomjaaga6097True. Again, like Titanic. Obviously it has fictional characters. But as long as the actual Movie is good, I’m gonna watch it. But I do also agree with that. I do hate when movies are not always detailed. But will never be perfect. But hey! Napoleon is still a good movie!

[@adriannn1180]

This was by all means sorta unrealistic...: _____________ - The Austrian & Russian army marching into the French camp is somewhat realistic. However, they put the entire attacking "army" into 1 column & wave in a relatively tiny area, and charged everyone in 1 very unrealistic attack. So imma write a long but unnecessary, more realistic way this fight would have happened...😂😂😂 With the fact that it somewhat started the way it did and ended, and in general happened the same way but just better and a bit more realistic... _____________ Let's say in this fight (in the film) the Austrian & Russian army consisted of around a whole Hungarian Regiment at that time, around 5500 men (3 battalions) split up with both Austrians-Hungarians and Russians and probably like 200 cavalrymen (Russians & Austrians, total of around 2 cavalry squadrons). The army would most likely be split up into 3 waves, the first attack wave, the second, and the third so-called reserve. With the first wave consisting of i guess 3000 soldiers, second of 1500 , and third (reserve) of 1000 soldiers all being very experienced soldiers (as often the reserve force are the best men in an army, to create a breakthrough). With the 200 cavalrymen spread out to support the infantry, flanks and if needed to lead a charge to break the enemy's forces. French Army: The French would have had 2 main infantry forces and all of their cav put up into 1 area as shown in the film. Let's say for this battle the numbers are even... so 5500 French soldiers in 2 main waves/columns, and as seen in the film a small guard force up on the hill probably consisting of let's say 100 Elite Guards (included in the 5500) to protect napoleon and the generals there. So with this there would be the main force in the camp of in this case 3000 soldiers and the flanking soldiers of 2400 soldiers, which by all means would NEVER stay in a trench and instead would hide in the hill's forest to then charge down into the fight later on. Let's say they also got the same amount of Cavalry as with the enemy (200), which are also hidden a bit further to the right in the forest, and would later charge out behind the enemy's army shown in the movie. _____________ The Battle starts (mostly Austrian & Russian army perspective): - The First wave would attack with 3 main columns, 1 center column, and 1 on each flank. With the center being the main attack of 2000 men, and the flanking columns of 500 each, to try and outflank the enemy forces (all in the end being in a massive even fight with the French inside their camp). They would march forward in this case a straight line (consisting of 2 lines in total, due to the battlefield not being that long to and due to the camp's position), to about 50-100 meters away, where they would either have a mass charge or line up and begin firing on the enemy. In this case, they would prob line up and fire off 1-2 volleys and then do a mass charge (bayonet and hand fighting). This would tie up the (visible) French infantry force in the camp. [ Quick thing: Before any of the infantry fighting would start then the Austrian and Russian artillery would have started bombarding the French camp, and prob stopped once the first wave advanced forward to prevent friendly fire. ] - The Second wave would march up behind the first wave, where they would line up and just watch, and in general just be supportive of the first wave. In this case, the second French Infantry force which had not been detected yet, began their charge down from the forest to both flank around the Austrian & Russian army's first wave but to also support the French infantry engaged in the camp. This would have forced the remaining second wave to either do 3 things. 1: Rush to the flank and meet the French infantry, to prevent heavy losses to the first wave. 2: Charge into the camp to even out the numbers. 3: Start a general retreat, which would result in Massive losses to the first wave, but would at the same time save the second & third wave. It really depends on when they saw the French infantry, etc. However, in this case since it would go how the movie would then they'd choose to engage. So let's say at this point there was a total of 1000 soldiers out of the 1500 remaining in the second wave, where they would have split their forces in two, 500 would charge into the camp and 500 to the flank. - The third and final wave would have already been set up behind the second wave, waiting for a decisive/desperate last-second moment, and in this case, they would immediately send up 200 men to the flank and 200 men to the center (which at this point is outnumbered by the French and is starting to be pushed back a bit), the remaining 600 men of the reserve would be held back for later. The cavalrymen in the meantime would have either never been engaged at all and would have just been split up around the army ready for orders. Or in this case, the 2 squadrons would be split up into 2, where 1 of them has already been engaged with the infantry, and the second waiting back with the remaining third wave. At this time the total losses on the French side would probably been around 500 mostly all inside the camp, and on the other side 1000, resulting in the French having around a total number of 4900 troops all engaged inside the camp and on the flank to the left (plus the 100 men up on the hill that would never see battle). While, the enemy army has at the time a total of 3900 troops engaged, with still 600 in reserve, so in total 4500. - At this time Napoleon seeing the start of his victory, would order his French cavalry to charge in and flank behind the Austrian & Russian army (seen in the movie. Where then the remaining 100 enemy Cavalry would charge in to meet them, and the remaining ~600 men of the third wave would try to form Square to prevent being crushed by the French cavalry. However, the French charge came by a surprise, and therefore 2 of the 3 squares didn't fully form, (a total of 400 men), which received heavy losses from the charge. - In the end after being engaged from 3 directions and with the rear almost fully broken through, the Austrian & Russian generals order a general retreat. Where then the majority of the army would retreat across their only available direction (across the ice trap), most realistically they would put i guess 500 soldiers to form a quick suicide rear guard to prevent the French from chasing after the retreating army. Which would all be gun downed very shortly after from the French infantry forming a line as you saw in the movie. At this time the French artillery would ofc begin to fire on the ice and yeah you know what would have happened, almost the entire enemy army would die on the ice... _____________ Quite long and i have no idea why i wrote this, I'm stupid as hell 😂well well whatever, either way, this fight would never have turned out the way it did, however, this would probably be the most realistic way it would have turned out, with regards to the fight that was set up in the movie (still not historically accurate at all, and irl would have most likely had scouts that would have seen the french cavalry and infantry in the forest, which would have totally changed the outcome... but well well...)

[@LaLaSadiistiic]

It's a movie.

[@joaomarcosdasilvafilho5281]

The unique great scene

[@TheBlackhawk1985]

Everything was wrong, but it was filmed cool! Napoleon was in the center, the right flank of the French front is shown here

[@chrislapp9468]

watched War and Peace when it aired a few nights one week in '72 (?) on prime time. Was good, but the effects and CGI here way better.

[@goen5601]

I really wonder how they film the drowning scene. It look so damn real!!

[@stephenhubber9184]

sexing up history is always a bad idea. Even when you're Ridley Scott.

[@dragerdet]

Why?

[@turdferguson9923]

Strange, I didn't know that contact with cold icy water made you bleed profusely...

[@partzxy9939]

They were being shot at by french troops on ground while they were retreating out of the ice. You can see most of the french gathering in a line formation and opening fire on the austrian forces

[@turdferguson9923]

@@partzxy9939 True, but many of the men who simply fell through the ice started turning the water red as if they were bleeding profusely by simply falling through the ice without being injured in any other way. I was making a facetious remark about them seeming to bleed simply by falling through the ice and into the water.

[@mcbrians.8508]

@@turdferguson9923that’s his horse bleeding if you’re looking at the austrian banner

[@turdferguson9923]

@@mcbrians.8508 No, not just the officer on the horse, every single other soldier that simply falls through the ice starts to "bleed" profusely upon contact with the water. It's meant as a witty observation. Ha ha, laughter and chuckles ya know?

[@peredhilh3444]

I thought the same about the blood appearing so suddenly! But joking aside if not for cannon fire, then I guess the exploding ice shrapnel would cause the bleeding, although it's convenient as you say.

[@scottr237]

I loved the movie!!! I learned history thorough books. And I go to the movies for entertainment and I was entertained ❤

[@SergioBecerraII]

I cared more about the battle scenes than anything else.

[@Walle8707]

Napoleons masterstroke turned into whatever this is...

[@TheRealW.S.Foster]

OverSimplified managed to do what Ridley Scott couldn't do with less than a fraction of the budget: Make an entertaining piece about one of history's greatest generals.

[@ColonelPeppers]

What makes no sense is that the Austrians are fighting on their home soil, so wouldn't they know that they are on a frozen lake?

[@wonderfalg]

It didn't happen like shown. Absolutely not at all. Pure fantasy.

[@healdogtoe2c]

One gets the sense of a director who imagines he is creating an epic by impressing himself. None of this seems real beyond the sensibility of a movie.

[@BenniMonaco]

Who’s the actor at 3:50 with the glasses? He looks familiar

[@Kisoie]

poor horses

[@user-ce6ow7ms4i]

The problem with the movie is that it only had a limited amount of time and budget. To do justice to Napoleon, you would need a three part movie of 2.5 hours each. It would be on par with Lord of the Rings.

[@user-bb6ei9zt1x]

Зачем было тогда вообще браться снимать такое кино?

[@yoyocortes]

This is a great fiction movie.

[@glutpospolity]

Nie wiedziałem że Napoleon pod Austerlitz mówił po angielsku !! (he, he ale kicha !!)

[@hamaqadr7741]

It should have been oliver stone instead of ridley scott oliver knows the beauty of history like the film of alexander😊

[@roqwez]

The lake scene actually not the beginning of the battle, it was long after it especially when the Allied realise they're defeating and trying to flee and Napoleon seems not that particular part of battlefield

[@floridaman5125]

And only a few horses died.

[@mattg6574]

Le sigh

[@jamesdiaz793]

What an epic failure by Ridley Scott and Jaoquin Pheonix was as wooden as a post. A horrific missed opportunity that speaks poorly of the sequel to Gladiator to come. What a disappointment.

[@TheAnimalWolverine]

😂 he even was mad at people saying it was bad. Dude can’t even handle his own identity of a proper film inspired from a legendary person of history.

[@ryanwebb5082]

As someone who works for a bank in a senior role , formulating the right top level plan is the decisive factor which dictates how the cookie will crumble. The people who made this film, and their producers, got both wrong what their audience wanted and the long term value to them of either a trilogy or a TV series. From a creative stand point , people wanted an immersive experience when wanting to understanding this man’s mentality and the challenges he faced through life. As an audience, we were prepared to wait - longing makes the heart fonder - for historic battles and reactions which were accurate. It would’ve served a great vehicle to get the general public interested in history by engaging with one of its most famous nteresting archs. I have told doubt about JPs acting ability , shame he didn’t get to understand the character he was playing.

[@dominicviner6619]

The actor is almost never at fault the only person you can blame is the director and producers Look into what they originally wanted vs what was approved

[@markappleton9051]

Always bigging up Napoleon ! Defeated simple and spent his days licking paint

[@tmnt10000]

You may be right, then again, you can always make your own movie about Napoleon

[@mellowrose9470]

Art of war Be/aim where the enemy isnt.. Napolian already had the cannons set on the lake,but wanted all of the enemy to trap themselves on the ice

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

Except this has nothing at all to do with the battle of Austerlitz.

[@mellowrose9470]

@@josefavomjaaga6097 I know this movie dosent follow what really actually happened,but the way this movie was made is pretty good if your not focusing on how accurate it is

[@the_northface]

Movies tend to make a character seem better than they appeared in real life. Except this one.

[@leftentantsniffles8522]

“Tell the men to rest” they were already resting wtf

[@averdung]

It's a Hollywood waste of time... but for the Kyrie and the neutral "Je suis la mort incarnée" look. That scene will be in Austrian nightmares for centuries.

[@RodrigoSantos-gd8yj]

Um belo filme

[@destroyerdog]

Historians and fans who understand napolionic wars watching the movie:😤🤦‍♂️ Fans who have no clue about napoleonic war watching the movie:😀🤪 Me who loves history and know atleast some things and historical moments about the napoleonic wars like a historian:🤦‍♂️😀😤🤨🤷‍♂️

[@roqwez]

From the scenes it seems Napoleon was in the high ground which wasn't true at all. The Allied hold the higher ground but the send the army to wrong direction. They took the bait.

[@FLASK904]

Well after Kutusov went after Marshal Davout's corp and vacated the Pratzen heights, Nepoleon' army did capture and hold it. So technically, for half of the battle, Nepoleon did hold the higher ground.

[@onbirbir1102]

Worlds and specially Europe history writen like that as you see. Politics and blood...

[@Matt.Johnny]

La scena è una rilettura molto semplice e inaccurata della Battaglia del 1805 .. nonostante questo, le scene sono girate bene e la successiva raffigurazione dei laghi ghiacciati di Satschan è, visivamente parlando, impattante

[@davidelago3391]

Finalmente uno che ragiona

[@wonderfalg]

​​@@davidelago3391lol, not at all. No matter how good the cinematography shown is... Pure fantasy crap stays fantasy crap. If I wanna watch that I'll go into some Marvel movies. A movie titled Napoleon I expect some interpretation of history and no fantasy.

[@user-ps4ke7nu5w]

Si Joaquín Pheonix es de madera me importa un cuerno. Las batallas están bien filmadas. Dejen de criticar y filmen su propia versión...👁️👁️

[@JohnnyRico118]

Hey at least the uniforms look good.

[@wonderfalg]

Right. And that's it.

[@Alan-hs5ii]

Хоть сам фильм посредственный, но вот визуал и постановка битв выполнены на высоте

[@mustafakazimdeniz4872]

Yes dear Russian friend

[@Normalmuzzleloader]

Napoleon 2023 at Waterloo: french army marching with ww1 tactics Waterloo 1870: *epic la victoire est à nous*

[@Razolape]

I like Panoleon

[@joseenriquereyescolli2289]

no hay en la pelicula 1812??

[@chinesecommunists1622]

Some dude in blood and iron running into a stake

[@budsprink5999]

I don't know about anyone else, but Napoleon will always be Rod Steiger.