Very Chill Dice-Rolling Idle Game! | Incremental Dice

[@exasperated_idiot_]

"It sounds like someone's in my house" - Sifd quote of all time

[@JGeMcL]

Regarding 2048, my friends couldn't beat it when it came out and they showed the game to me. I beat it in the first night because i figured out the corner trick you talked about. They got so frustrated with me when i showed them i could get to at least 1024 without even looking.

[@BeatstarBoi]

7:58 didn't know the game also had some horror elements

[@FreeformWave]

Gotta love the auto save XD

[@jasonbuckley4118]

TLDR: the math behind the dice are linear, this should be the exact formula for each die including tier upgrade but excluding 6:6 pair's that part is after this one. base = normal 1d6 / tier 0 Dice range = (Base +1 if Tier = 0)*2^Tier = x x = lowest roll of die x * 6 = highest roll of die. 6:6 pair calculations. 1/36 = 2.57˙% to get x2 multi from the 1st or 16th dice. 2/36 = 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from the 2nd-15dice only for the 2nd-15th dice as the 1st and 16th dice doesn't have an 2nd dice to add to it's chance. if you want to find more the equation is 1/(6^x) where x is number of dice Opinion on what's optimal below, i believe the TLDR covers most of the important math, there is a few more details on rolls and difference between the tier of the dice but i get it if you don't read any further. (happy to hear feedback) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from the math and the rest of the calculations the optimal thing to do is always have enough to replace the previous dice before tiering up unless it resets you to 1 die which should be objectively worse if you can't fill all slots. this point is just an example as is made redundant due to it only mattering that the dice that roll the 6:6 are next to each other and at this point it only matters in the case you are left with 2 dice when you could have 14 rolling at 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from 6:6 (excluding tiered up 1st & 16th dice) i.e tier4 requiring 16 base dice, as having tier3 2d6 is better due to 6:6 x2 multi. i.e: Tier3 2d6 rolling 6,6*2 = (48 +48)*2 = 192 Tier4 1d6 rolling 6 = 96 ------------------------------------- the dice seem to be linear but 'slightly' isn't. the mean/average of the dice/tier doesn't seem to change going up tiers. B= base T= tier base 1d6; mean = 3.5 base 2d6; mean = 7 T1 1d6; mean = 7 T1 1d6+base 1d6; mean = 10.5 T1 1d6+base 2d6; mean = 14 base 4d6; mean = 14 T1 2d6; mean = 14 T2 1d6; mean = 14 However looking at the Standard deviation with the % of getting the average shows there is only a slight change between them. (it's very slight however might make a difference if you were to afk and rolling the same dice 500-1000+ times) Mean: standard deviation: Chance for mean/average roll. (even = all rolls have the same chance) Base 2d6; 7.00 : 2.42 : 16.67% T1 1d6; 7.00 : 3.42 : even 16.67% Base 4d6; 14.00 : 3.42 : 11.27% T1 2d6; 14.00 : 4.83 : 16.67% T2 1d6; 14.00 : 6.83 : even 16.67% this is the flat chance of rolling 6's next to each other to earn x2,x3 multi (note they have to be in order, not vertically aligned.) 1/(6^2)= 1/36 = 0.0277˙ *100 = 2.77˙% for x2 multi 1/(6^3)= 1/216 = 0.0046 *100 = 0.46% for x3 multi however this doesn't cover the 4x4 grid. (im kinda burning my self out so this might be wrong but it should be right) 1/36 = 2.57˙% to get x2 multi from the 1st or 16th dice. 2/36 = 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from the 2nd-15dice only for the 2nd-15th dice as the 1st and 16th dice doesn't have an 2nd dice to add to it's chance. if you want to find more the equation is 1/(6^x) where x is number of dice ------------------ for those who skipped the TLDR. the math behind the dice are linear. Dice range = (Base +1 if Tier = 0)*2^Tier = x x = lowest roll of die x * 6 = highest roll of die.

[@jasonbuckley4118]

2:15 i didn't even see this the first time around.. that x5 reminds me that you can get separated 6:6 to get that x2 x5. i can't be stuffed doing the math. but on the top of my head to get separated x2 x2 multis it should just be (1/(6^x)*100) + (1/(6^x)*100). where x = number of 6's in a row. edit: i spent way too much time to only finish the video and learn the game is still in demo.

[@stephenp8232]

These games are... brain rot. I used to play alot of them at work.

[@Entropy_____]

22:33 yes we understand, and for ur information, I go bottom left

[@mueezadam8438]

8:02 editor is wildin’ these days with these cut-in gags 😂😂😂

[@Thagrynor]

Interestingly, the highest multiplier with the groups of 6s you could get is actually 108, assuming you had a 3 groups of 3 and a group of 4. You could get a decently high score with that even with mediocre dice, but the odds of rolling that are pretty slim, namely 1 in 705.28B chance. Better odds of winning the lottery lol ....

[@jimmyh2137]

And the highest tier dice you can have is T16 before you're stuck, by the board size. So... theoretically max roll is [ (6*2^15) + (6*2^14) + (6*2^13) + (5*2^12) + (6*2^11) + (6*2^10) + (6*2^9) + (5*2^8) + (6*2^7) + (6*2^7) + (6*2^6) + (5*2^5) + (6*2^3) + (6*2^2) + (6*2) + (6) ] * 3 * 3 * 3 * 4 = 42'065'784 42 million and change

[@edward9487]

Ah, yes, rolling the Caltrops, are we? ...yeah, don't step on those dice.

[@elsewhereprince3969]

Did someone just cast Magic Missile?

[@Ichthyodactyl]

2048 is a 'bottom left' game for me, although it changes; once the left column is filled, then second column becomes top left, third column back to bottom left. Makes it quicker to collapse everything that way, if you can keep it orderly.

[@mithkabob]

2048 I would stack things towards the top edge when starting out, but once things get crowded there's no issue for me to switch it up to a different side if things are going to align better at that moment.

[@ShadowOfCicero]

You read the dice upgrades in terms of expected value exactly right. The only difference between the tiers I see is that higher tiers would add more variance, which might have slightly higher value if fishing for high scores.

[@jasonbuckley4118]

TLDR: the math behind the dice are linear, this should be the exact formula for each die including tier upgrade but excluding 6:6 pair's that part is after this one. base = normal 1d6 / tier 0 Dice range = (Base +1 if Tier = 0)*2^Tier = x x = lowest roll of die x * 6 = highest roll of die. 6:6 pair calculations. 1/36 = 2.57˙% to get x2 multi from the 1st or 16th dice. 2/36 = 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from the 2nd-15dice only for the 2nd-15th dice as the 1st and 16th dice doesn't have an 2nd dice to add to it's chance. if you want to find more the equation is 1/(6^x) where x is number of dice Opinion on what's optimal below, i believe the TLDR covers most of the important math, there is a few more details on rolls and difference between the tier of the dice but i get it if you don't read any further. (happy to hear feedback) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from the math and the rest of the calculations the optimal thing to do is always have enough to replace the previous dice before tiering up unless it resets you to 1 die which should be objectively worse if you can't fill all slots. this point is just an example as is made redundant due to it only mattering that the dice that roll the 6:6 are next to each other and at this point it only matters in the case you are left with 2 dice when you could have 14 rolling at 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from 6:6 (excluding tiered up 1st & 16th dice) i.e tier4 requiring 16 base dice, as having tier3 2d6 is better due to 6:6 x2 multi. i.e: Tier3 2d6 rolling 6,6*2 = (48 +48)*2 = 192 Tier4 1d6 rolling 6 = 96 ------------------------------------- the dice seem to be linear but 'slightly' isn't. the mean/average of the dice/tier doesn't seem to change going up tiers. B= base T= tier base 1d6; mean = 3.5 base 2d6; mean = 7 T1 1d6; mean = 7 T1 1d6+base 1d6; mean = 10.5 T1 1d6+base 2d6; mean = 14 base 4d6; mean = 14 T1 2d6; mean = 14 T2 1d6; mean = 14 However looking at the Standard deviation with the % of getting the average shows there is only a slight change between them. (it's very slight however might make a difference if you were to afk and rolling the same dice 500-1000+ times) Mean: standard deviation: Chance for mean/average roll. (even = all rolls have the same chance) Base 2d6; 7.00 : 2.42 : 16.67% T1 1d6; 7.00 : 3.42 : even 16.67% Base 4d6; 14.00 : 3.42 : 11.27% T1 2d6; 14.00 : 4.83 : 16.67% T2 1d6; 14.00 : 6.83 : even 16.67% this is the flat chance of rolling 6's next to each other to earn x2,x3 multi (note they have to be in order, not vertically aligned.) 1/(6^2)= 1/36 = 0.0277˙ *100 = 2.77˙% for x2 multi 1/(6^3)= 1/216 = 0.0046 *100 = 0.46% for x3 multi however this doesn't cover the 4x4 grid. (im kinda burning my self out so this might be wrong but it should be right) 1/36 = 2.57˙% to get x2 multi from the 1st or 16th dice. 2/36 = 5.55˙% to get x2 multi from the 2nd-15dice only for the 2nd-15th dice as the 1st and 16th dice doesn't have an 2nd dice to add to it's chance. if you want to find more the equation is 1/(6^x) where x is number of dice ------------------ for those who skipped the TLDR. the math behind the dice are linear. Dice range = (Base +1 if Tier = 0)*2^Tier = x x = lowest roll of die x * 6 = highest roll of die.

[@pumpalin8661]

Yo they got golden dice like in cookie clicker that’s neat

[@voiceincubus5877]

Hello mister Sifd I have a game recommendation for you... "Legends of Runetera" which started as a PvP card game but over the years shifted into a roug like deck builder. All (like 5) content creators playing the game have been playing it since launch and I would really enjoy seeing a New player. Not only learning the game but also approaching it from the roug like side, since the remaining creators started the game when it was a tcg.

[@9justgaming]

Only math u are missing is the average roll is 3.5 not 3 , i mean its not much difference but on a larger scale it makes a difrence

[@forban3738]

Hey sifd ! You should check out the gnorp apologue and journey to incrementalia, they're pretty great incremental game with some depth and an overall good grind feeling.

[@renocence]

Linear growth; but you knew that .

[@mihaiionescu6315]

I wana see You first in ladderbord ❤

[@michaelklog]

doesn't matter what dice the bonus lands on it counts all the dice for the bonus.

[@pepper_rex]

Dice themed idles are neat definitely more simple then idle dice 1&2 though maybe stuff past the demo will allow more mechanics

[@dallascreach2465]

Mathimatically the merge dice are better. They have a higher probability of rolling max money. Example, the chance of rolling a 4 on a white is 1/4. So to get $8 it would be 1/4 x 1/4 which is 1/16 (6.25%) chance to get $8 with 2 white. While the chance of $8 on a yellow is just 1/4 (25%). Therefore 1 yellow have more profit then 2 white

[@blankspace2185]

This is dice so just look up 2d4 vs 1d8 and the tabletop gamers reveal the answer 2d4 gives higher payout on average

[@mithkabob]

1 die also has a 1/4 chance to roll $2, while 2 dice is 1/16 chance. Single die has an average value of $5, two dice have an average value of $5 with more clustering towards the average. (2 of the 4 single die results are $4 and $6, 10 of the 16 double dice results are $4, $5, $6)

[@jimmyh2137]

This is because with 2 dices you can roll values "in between" that are not possible in one dice. You can roll 3+4=7, but you can't roll "3.5" in one dice, only 3*2=6 or 4*2=8 The possible rolls are 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 in two dices and 2-4-6-8 in one double dice High dices are also way better in general because you have a max capacity and a multiplier.

[@tiernanbonnar4212]

1:07 @Sidf It’s linear… 25 + 2x, where x is the number of dice bought…

[@lollertoasterr]

21:55 I was also a bottom right 2048 player

[@Za-aHeroismo]

How can I describe you.. uhhmm, you are vibes, coolylooly

[@pumpalin8661]

U live stream? Is it on YT or do u have a twitch?

[@crazedgamer5355]

Does sifd stream?

[@LineupLARRY-69]

Hey Sifd I just wanna say. I recently found your channel and I've fallen in love with it! You have great humor and commentary. Plus these are my favorite kind of games. I appreciate the consistent uploads and quality of videos. Thank you

[@michaelklog]

bottom right and if that didn't work i would go bottom left.

[@kaganatorplays9205]

Combining is good cause it let's u have more dice on the table to make more per roll

[@22TheJuggernaut]

Whats not fun about games like this is that you can't just outright buy Teir 2, you still have to buy Teir 1 and combine 2 etc

[@nothingnothing1799]

Its would be nice if assuming you didn't have the tier 1s it autobought and combined them

[@Mr.Pista-1]

A better upgrade would be yo start with yellows, or once you buy 16 whites they get blocked and yellows are the lower tier (and slightly cheaper)

[@Nobody-Cool]

These games are addictive

[@nothingnothing1799]

20:02 but sifd that's pink Edit after watching more this man is color blind af

[@dogukansaka2417]

having 2 d4 same as combine 2d4 in math it just open space. but dnd question here do you prefer 2d6 or 1d12?

[@Ichthyodactyl]

The probability distributions aren't the same for 2d4 and 1d4x2, though the range and average roll is the same. 2d6 and 1d12 don't have the same range, average roll or probability distributions.

[@GodOfFlesh]

wow perfectly on time

[@Takinghydra]

Me too

[@capitainfishface258]

Nope, combing is good. If you have two tier one dice, the chance to get 8 is 1/4 * 1/4 = 1/16. If you have a tier two die, your chance for 8 is 1/4.

[@jondoty-cd3kr]

Did say he was a ai?

[@captainobvious2244]

7:22 only white dice matter ;)

[@TheThund3rDump3r]

Petition to get sifd to play idle dice 2 by luts games

[@rowantodd827]

Opposite of exponential is decay

[@rowantodd827]

Operating on the implication that you mean exponential growth when referring to exponential

[@imhulki463]

I'm guessing he wanted to say Linear.

[@rowantodd827]

@@imhulki463 may have meant that, only aimed to answer the words, was unsure of the implication

[@imhulki463]

@@rowantodd827 this is sifd we're talking about, gotta answer what he's implying rather than the actual words he's saying lol. Only because he's gaming and doing voice over live

[@Teebornumber1fan]

How you are doing sifd?

[@rehaezgamerwilliams406]

New brotato update 🎉🎉🎉

[@Fipul30]

game is nice to roll during Nothing hours on Anime or something. Dont think i need a Video on Release.

[@bensoncheung2801]

🔥🔥🔥

[@WawawKanu]

play ballionaire again pls

[@iowenyou1]

00:31 What syndrome?

[@LusciousPig5044]

i think he said carpel tunnel but i could be wrong

[@exasperated_idiot_]

Hello Sifd

[@SquidLikesTalking]

I'm a bottom By the way what's 2048 ?

[@tangahkoncek6841]

Bro dice player one and Apocalypse party has get some time to cook and updated, might want to revisit them No?.....Buuuut siiifd

[@antonnickschas5713]

die= death dice=luck.... stupid internet destroying languages

[@czachop1865]

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[@yes_man1252]

I love Jesus and he Loves y’all