Sig P365 Review - Will it Get You Killed?

[@Cathy_MidwestHome_Hens]

new gun owner here. THANK YOU! I’ve watched a ton of videos - from veteran channels with far more followers even - but you are the ONLY one I’ve heard say “test fire your gun with defensive ammo” - Very much appreciated!

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’m glad you found it useful! Welcome to the gun community and stay safe! 👍

[@Cathy_MidwestHome_Hens]

Nightwood Guns Will do! You too.

[@panpiper]

I've heard a couple other people say it, but it's certainly rare to hear, and utterly necessary advice.

[@heeebeeegeeebeee]

For the record, the most common advice you’ll hear on the topic is, when you get a new gun, your first order of business (other than getting a holster) should be to run 500 rounds through it. You don’t have to do this all at once, but over the course of a few range trips. About 50 of them should be your carry ammo of choice. The thinking is that - if the gun’s going to have problems, they will probably become apparent within that 500 rounds (probably). Also, if you don’t mesh well with that gun for some reason, you will also discover that

[@daved57]

@@heeebeeegeeebeee Excellent advice to a noobie. Thanks!

[@ryancham]

Literally checked out this gun last week and almost walked out of the store with one. I waited (just bought a gun the week before that) and glad I did. I'm relatively new to firearms. I know how to handle them safely and everything but just don't know them like I know bikes or cars. Your point about testing all types of ammo hit home and makes perfect sense. I will be doing this from now on as common practice. First time watcher, now subbed! Thanks for the video!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you found my video useful. And welcome to the community! :)

[@MarQDog]

Dude, that’s exactly what I do- I test my gun with the target ammo, then load it with hollow points or defense ammo. I’ve got the sigsauer P365 and this video has made me reconsider, or better yet will make me test my Sig with defense ammo to make sure I don’t have that same issue. Thank you! Great video

[@NightwoodGuns]

Right on! 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@sub2nddraw818]

I've had 2 p365s. First one hated carry ammo. I got rid of it, half a year later I wanted to try it again. Second one eats everything. And at 500 rounds (3 diff hollow points and several different brands of fmj) hasn't malfunctioned. Definitely test your carry gun with your carry ammo. My glock 19 even hated the first type of carry ammo I picked.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Exactly! 👍

[@NJBeachbum12]

Great point in testing self defense ammo, as many people don’t want to spend the extra money to do so. It’s imperative to know how your gun is going to perform when you really need it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Agreed! 😎👍

[@Tazer120]

I have an early P356 and had ZERO issues, run hollow points of various weights and brands and it always loads, fires, extracts and loads.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Exactly as it should! Good to hear 👍 Mine has been 100% since the fix!

[@EverettVinzant]

I admit I have made the VERY mistake you talked about. Tonight I’m heading to the range with my carry ammo...

[@NightwoodGuns]

Hey, you can’t know everything about everything. I’m glad you’ll be vetting it for reliability with your carry ammo. It should work fine, but it’s better to know for sure 👍 Good luck and have some fun while you are shooting!

[@adventurfly879]

Mine runs anything and everything. 1600 rounds of mixed ammo of every type and exactly zero malfunctions. Definitely trust my life with it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

That’s great to hear! 🙌 I’m glad you got a good one! Most of them are, mine was just a lemon.

[@jimrogers3911]

Wonderful! I checked my 365XL with hollow points from Federal before I bought it. I ran at least 60 rounds through it, no problems. Great point!

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’m glad you ensured it functioned with defensive ammo! 👍 it’s rare that it won’t, but it’s important to know for sure. I love the XL! Great choice!

[@jsr-uz3oj]

I just bought mine on 11/18/2021 and the manufacturing date says 8/17/2021 and I fired 40 founds of hollow points spear gold dot 124+p, federal hst 124gr and Hornady critical defense now malfunctions 300 of fmj no malfunctions so I would say Sid has corrected the problem I'm glad you brought that to attention thanks for the video.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Good to hear, thanks for sharing. I am 100% confident in the Sig P365 now, but it never hurts to test your carry ammo.

[@thomaswall9198]

I have the 2nd gen (first with upgraded x-ray sights). I have over 1200 rounds of hp's through it with 0 yes NO issues. I have NO hesitations carrying this weapon! Train with what you carry, carry what you train with. Simple as that.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thomas Wall Perfect! Mine has been flawless after repair, it’s a great gun! 👍

[@richardsmith4187]

And train, train, train !

[@maximaxi1731]

With all guns shoot it with full metal jacket. Then ALWAYS TRY YOUR DEFENSE AMMO OR CARRy AMMO TO SEE IF IT WORKS IN YOUR GUN. I know it can be expensive but it worth the money if it saves your life and your loved ones.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Agreed! I recommend the same thing 👍

[@dmw3086]

Mine was made may of 2019, I have about 1500 rounds through it no breakages and 2 malfunctions. 1 failure to go into battery first mag and a light primer Around 1000 round mark

[@nancyhuard2786]

Just got ours today and so thankful this was the first video we watched. Thank you for the lifesaving info!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Congrats on your new P365! Enjoy it and be safe out there! 👍

[@articjackal]

Another point to make, take it to the range before you carry it. I picked up a p365 SAS (none compensated) about a month ago and after the 92nd round something in the triger mechanism broke/ failed. Nothing visibly wrong with it when fild striped. If you shake it while holding it sideways on eather side the trigger will occasionally catch and drop the striker. So now I can never trust it. I brought it back to my LGS and they sent it back to SIG. Now news yet about it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Excellent point. If you receive a lemon, it will most likely make itself known within 250 rounds. But there’s no way to know until you test fire it. 👍 It’s especially important right now since manufacturers are struggling to keep up with demand. Quality control can miss problems when rushed. I hope it works out for you, it is always the worst when you end up with a lemon.

[@articjackal]

@@NightwoodGuns That is true. Unfortunately I think too meany manufacturers are focusing on production right now and the QC people are probably getting hypnotized from the volume they have to check and are missing things. When I get it back I will try and get a thousand rounds through it. Then I will consider carrying it. Good review btw

[@EHRpito]

I sold my taurus g3c because of the problem I had with the hollow point bullets and today today I am going to pick up my P365 tacpac that I bought and now I find this video. I hope my P365 doesn't have that same problem.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Do not worry, the odds of your P365 having this problem are very, very low. If by some astronomical chance it has this problem, Sig can and will 100% fix it for free. Mine has gone at least 3,000 rounds strong after the fix (probably 200 various hollow points) with zero issues. You are good 👍

[@BiggSee305]

I’m glad I watched this video. I fired 200 fmj rounds and once I was done I loaded all my magazines with defense ammo without testing them. I’m going to test out my defense ammo this weekend.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It should work fine, but there's only one way to know for sure. Thanks for watching, man.

[@zyzzuschrist3410]

let us know how it ran with self defense ammo

[@PC-vq5ud]

My P365 is dated Jun-2018. I've run at least 10 different hollow point loads, 115, 124, and 147. Federal, Hornady, Black Hills +P, Fiocchi, Independence, Legend, Remington, IWI,and SIG. Never have had a jam except on the very first two magazines I had failures to go fully into battery. The gun was tight and had to wear in a little. Have to clean the gun and the magazines occasionally. I have pistols that are easier to shoot but I can't stick them in my front pocket like I can the P365.

[@rickyramirez3483]

Great vid! Clear and straight to the point with a splash of humor! Well done, Bro! 🇵🇷😷🦠

[@NightwoodGuns]

Ricky Ramírez Thanks, man! Glad you enjoyed! 👍

[@richardsmith4187]

Awesome video !!! You made a very good point of which I think is true for many new gun owners. You go to the range and fire all the fmj range ammo, BUT fail to fire a couple of magazines of your hollow point carry ammo. It shoots and feels quite different than the range ammo, and as you stated yours had problems with every single round of hollow points ! Make sure the ammo you plan to carry will cycle through with no problems ... your life may very well depend on it. Thank you for pointing out this very important fact and I hope everyone will now make sure your carry ammo works well in your carry gun. ** I retired my S&W shield that was tricked out for the P365 - IT ROCKS !! **

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for the comment! You are dead-on! 👍 And I went from the Shield to the G43 to the Walther PPS M2 to the P365. The Sig is hard to beat for the size:capacity! 🙌

[@richardsmith4187]

@@NightwoodGuns One of the best ammo reviewers on you tube I have found is " shootingthebull410 " he is straight forward just like yourself and presents the facts as they are. Thanks again

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check him out! Glad you enjoyed the video! 👍

[@teutonalex]

My 2nd gen failed to strike in 1/20 rounds when out of the box for the first few magazines. I was about to send it back but then cleaned out the striker housing with brake cleaner. This solved the issue but now I realize I don't think I ever tried hollow points. Thanks for the heads up.

[@fsuboy75]

Sound advice. Test your carry ammo!!! I had a Ruger LCP II that I tested with ball ammo for the first 200 rounds. Cycled every one. Then I shot a box of Sig .380 hollow points - they had a squared off tip....jammed (failed to feed) every single time. Every single one. Then i tried Hornady Critical Defense and it loved eating those! Just to be safe I bought 100 rounds (expensive I knkow) and cycled them through. I did rapid to single round shots. It every one just fine so that's my carry for that pistol.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I always recommend testing carry ammo for that very reason 😎👍

[@StratBurst92]

Everyone who carries should test your weapon with defense ammo because that is what you will be using for carry. Nightwood Guns has an excellent point with this .If it works for you with defense rounds shoot all the target rounds that you want. after that.

[@NightwoodGuns]

100% correct! Gotta make sure it functions!

[@jimwoolridge2883]

Great info on the carry ammo. I have always tested my guns with carry ammo but like you said many people don't.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It’s getting more and more expensive to test carry ammo these days, but it is still very important 👍 thanks for the comment

[@meauxgeaux]

Just purchased the Sig P365 this morning. Thanks for the run down.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It’s a great little gun, you’ll love it! 👍

[@BrianSchoedel]

As a new gun owner thanks for sharing and the reminder to fire with self defense ammo not just FMJ range ammo.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for watching. It's not something that everyone thinks about, so I'm glad I could help.

[@RlukeM]

Welcome to the gun community!

[@ericpaul2146]

Shot my new 365 for the first time. 150 rounds through it. No problems. Shot fmj and hp ammo. No jams, NO primer drag at all. 150 rounds isn't a lot, but so far so good. Love the gun.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Perfect! I’m glad you vetted it and it worked perfectly! It’s one of my favorite little guns! 👍

[@slmyatt]

Bought P365 Tacpac with Nov 2019 born on date. No striker drag or spring issues. Shoots 124gr regular and +P no issues.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Perfect! That’s what I like to hear! 👍 Good choice on the Tacpac!

[@Fettigkeit]

Got one Apr 2019, both failure to return to battery and striker drag issues. Buying a Glock.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@Fettigkeit Yikes. Well, Glock just announced the G43X MOS and G48 MOS with accessories rails. With the Shield Arms 15 round mags, those could be good alternatives.

[@Fettigkeit]

Nightwood Guns Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve been looking at the 43X. Also the Hellcat, but I’m not so sure about carrying it after hearing about their trigger issues lately. Although it could still be a fun target shooting gun like my Sig is now.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@Fettigkeit I have a few friends that love their Hellcat. But, to be frank, they are friends who do not shoot often. If it's a gun for serious business, look at what the pros carry. You see a lot of Glocks, HKs and Sigs, and a few Walthers, CZs, S&Ws and Berettas... But its a rare sight to see a pro (outside of someone like Rob Leatham who is sponsored) carry any kind of Springfield. Personally, if I wasn't carrying the XL, I would get a G48 MOS. But that's just my opinion and I always encourage everyone to get whatever gun brings them joy.

[@kurtisjohnson5456]

My carry ammo works fine in mine just saying. I’m glad you tested yours

[@tacbear]

Tested mine with my normal carry ammo (124g HST), Federal 135g Low Recoil and 124g Gold Dot 124 +P.

[@videogazer801]

This is a really good review. I’m going to test out my new guns with hollow points. Great advice!! 100%

[@NightwoodGuns]

Glad you enjoyed the review! Definitely test any gun you plan on using for self defense with the exact hollow points you load it with. Thanks for the comment!

[@jesseschmigiel1223]

awaiting the approval of my permit here in NY, and have my sights set on getting a P365 or the 365 XL. of the dozens and dozens of videos I have watched this truly has been one of my favs for a few reasons. 1) I normally watch videos at either 1.25 or 1.5 playback speed because they just seem to talk so slow or repeat the same info before moving onto the next point 2) your straight to the point attitude and demeanor was welcoming with a lighter side to it. 3) no BS - not making excuses to favor your bias. Kudos. only gun channel I have subbed to, keep up the good work. maybe you can do a comparison with the 365/365xl in the future. I have heard that the OG 365 has pretty much been completely ironed out, too bad can't say the same for the XL thus far.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I appreciate the feedback, thank you. I hope your permit approval comes quickly! OG P365s seem good to go nowadays. The only problem I frequently see with the XL is an incredibly stiff slide catch. Either way, make sure to look the gun over before buying it and then test your gun for reliability before carrying it. Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel 👍

[@jolo4036]

Sorry you have to live in a state that makes you jump through hoops to get self protection.

[@harrytmurphy8438]

Good Job. No one else (that I have viewed) has mentioned testing hollow points or other defense ammo in this gun. Thank You.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks, I’m glad you found it useful! 👍

[@haveyouheard9305]

I love mine. I've never been as happy with a decision after spending the money as this. Fits my hand like it's custom molded, runs flawless fmj hp I've got the sig ammo in it now. After waiting Academy had it on sale for a month last year so I got mine for $450 and feel like I stole it. If I had to do it again I'd give $600 to have it sooner. If you have your money saved up and you're thinking about it just do it, you'll be glad you did.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Sig definitely made a winner. It’s an amazing gun, for sure!

[@matthewshat]

have you heard I got mine at Academy too $449 and the free 12 round magazine. So far it’s been flawless and no primer drag. I carry it everywhere

[@haveyouheard9305]

@@matthewshat ah lucky lol wish mine had come with the 12 rounder. But my wife got me one for Christmas but you got a good deal for sure.

[@greencertifiedweb]

I had a similar problem with my Colt Combat Commander 9mm back in the early 80s. Took it to a Smith and it fired everything I ever put in it after that! I can't really imagine not shooting at least 20-50 rounds of your carry ammo but I guess some people gotta be who they are!

[@joefrias]

Thank you for the tip of testing the defense ammo. I will go out to the range this weekend and test some of my defense ammo.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Joe Frias It never hurts to make sure it works 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@joefrias]

Howling Frog Boy is that true. I found out yesterday at the range. Used 24 defense ammo to get the feel. Then ran 100 practice ammo. #sig365

[@wasichuwacanta7010]

@Howling Frog That's the great thing about the Federal 124 gr Syntech and JHP; they're loaded to feel the same, and the Syntech is less than 1/2 the price of the JHP ($16.25/50, $40.00/50). I couldn't feel much difference between the 2, but at 67, I don't feel much anywhere anymore! Happy shooting!

[@dennisrankin9508]

I have a P365 SAS and it out shoots my GL43. Just took 20 rounds to learn the sights on the SAS! Much tighter group on the SAS. SAS my EDC GL43 back up at work!

[@JJbike]

Just fired my 365 for the first time: I found the flush 10-round mag would not load with the slide closed when full, and hard to load it in, too. So it is really a 9 round mag, for now anyway. Cant trust it with 10. The mag with the extra grip piece was fine. The slide would not lock open at all when the mag was emptied. I do believe this was because my grip slightly depresses the slide release when firing. Well documented issue. Need to alter the grip next time at the range. It did fire flawlessly, no jams, FTF or other malfunctions with target ammo.I will take you suggestion and fire some HST thru it. Will be very disappointed if it jams at all. Been thru that nightmare several times before with S&W and H&K VP9. Do like my Glocks much, much better but I got this for its size to replace the SW 642 to be carried in a Kydex pocket holster at times. Hope i am not disappointed.

[@NightwoodGuns]

The 10 round mags are tight, for sure. You can get it to fully seat when fully loaded, it just takes some muscle. It should also loosen up with use, making it easier to fully seat. I'm sure it will function flawlessly with HSTs, but you don't know for sure until you test it. You made a smart choice replacing the little 642 with the P365. Much more firepower in a similar-sized package. Let me know how it performs!

[@JJbike]

@@NightwoodGuns thanks- if not for your videos i would be very disappointed and frustrated with the P365 (me being a Glock guy). The 642 for pocket carry is 100% reliable, that is certain .But hard to shoot well. Im sure I'll like the 10 rounds and more accuracy. Thanks again

[@relentlessshiba5108]

Great great video. I cannot emphasize that enough. I also have a 365 dated February of 2019. Same thing. I was carrying it and had 124 grain gold dot in it. I had the exact same jamming/loading/ejection issue you had. Sent mine in and got it back in 5 days with 3 new mags, a new recoil spring and striker assembly. I just got it back yesterday and have not had the chance to shoot it. I hope its fixed. What did they fix on yours? I wonder if it was the same stuff.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Interesting, you are now the 4th person to reach out with the same problem. (Granted, out of thousands) But still. Anyway, they replaced the recoil spring assembly, the extractor, the barrel, magazine springs, and polished up the feed ramp, etc. It has now functioned flawlessly for 1,500 rounds post-repair. It sounds like Sig took good care of you as well. Hopefully yours runs perfectly now. Good on you for testing your defensive ammo! Who knows how many P365s are in circulation with this problem since a huge portion of gun owners don't test defensive ammo.

[@MotoVet86]

I had the same issue with my Glock 43 and 147 grain. Dropped to 124 and it’s been fine since.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I had the same problem, but it was caused by aftermarket base plates on the G43. It should cycle 147 FMJ and JHP in factory mags 100% If not, I would send it back to Glock if it were mine. Either way, I’m glad you tested your ammo! 👍

[@ernestoechevers4741]

That's 1 of my 3 most important rules for carrying a gun 1. Test it with your preferred defense ammo 2. Get the specific good quality holster for it. 3. Never modify the internals Just sights, lights, grip tape if you are into it but nothing internal You feel that your trigger is less than ideal for you go get another gun or work around it but never get an after market one for a carry gun please.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I agree with your first two points, 100% But why no aftermarket trigger? I'm just curious to hear your perspective.

[@surfingonmars8979]

Great little video. This kid is terrific!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@irie4i]

Thanks , your right. I feel disappointed, in myself. Hundreds of rounds and no hollow points. I'm getting right on it. Thanks again. That's awesome

[@NightwoodGuns]

Don't feel disappointed, there's no shame in learning. Chances are: it will function perfectly. It's just important to make sure.

[@InfluenceThaPoetDOPE]

The Huey Lewis Christian Bale inflection was funny as hell😂

[@NightwoodGuns]

Haha! Glad it made you laugh!

[@chrisjames483]

@@NightwoodGuns hi there. Actually ordered the p365 and then watched your video. It freaked me out :) I'm still new to firearms. I have a sw shield 9mm and have shot around 1000 rounds total. What have you found that works well with the p365 for self defense ammo? Not sure if that's a dumb question. I don't know if a particular model / mfg doesn't like certain ammo or if its specific to a single gun. Any advice is appreciated

[@armandomontes1876]

ASM- That is why I have always carried COLT .357 Mag REVOLVERS and /or a S&W J Frame .38 + P Thank you!

[@NightwoodGuns]

I haven’t had a single malfunction after repair, but I do love revolvers as well 👍 J Frame makes a great, reliable backup gun!

[@dash525]

Have had a few FAs with loading special HP ammo issues... best advice for sure... test your ammo. Especially those self defense with rubber type tips. Thanks much for great info!

[@squidly2112]

FYI, I don't care about the rail on the P365 .. I have absolutely no intentions of ever mounting anything on it. I don't want anything on it! .. I use it for just 1 purpose .. concealed carry .. period! Also, you should be able to test the HP feed without having to fire the gun. You "should" be able to manually rack through a magazine of HP's to see if you have the problem or not.

[@NightwoodGuns]

The rail is by no means a deal breaker. But, some people choose to conceal a gun with a weapon light on it. I personally carry an offhand light. And this P365 manually cycled hollow points perfectly. You can’t simulate the slide velocity of live fire manually. I’ve also had guns that will hang up on hollow points while manually cycling, but they functioned flawlessly during live fire. Hard to say 🤷‍♂️

[@squidly2112]

@@NightwoodGuns - Interesting, I guess you have to just test it on the range to be sure. I have fired a couple of different types of HP's on the range, not many as they are too expensive to be plinking with. So far everything has worked well, I hope it continues. I will have to try testing a few different HP's and check to be sure the ones I carry will operate properly. This is probably something everyone should do anyway, just to be sure. Would hate to have a situation where they didn't work, that's for sure.

[@AGreatImage]

ALWAYS test the EXACT defense ammo that you carry.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Exactly! Agreed! 👍

[@kohnfutner9637]

Good advice.

[@AlanTrades]

Why would that matter? Would certain ammo not hit the target if you aim and pull the trigger? I know others that said this too but it seems like bro science

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@AlanTrades While different rounds can have different points of impact, the difference is typically negligible in handguns within 25 yards. The real reason to test your exact ammo is to ensure that it functions reliably. Different hollow points can have different shaped "noses" or "cavities" that can hang up on feed ramps, causing malfunctions. It is important to make sure that your exact hollowpoint does not hang up on your exact feed ramp.

[@AlanTrades]

@@NightwoodGuns thanks, my glock 26 eats anything up and never thought twice about ammo, but I guess for the sig I need to be more mindful

[@josephbenge8707]

Just got mine a few weeks ago and I am guilty of just what you said. The bad thing is I dont have much defense ammo and cant find anything around here right now. I will try at least a mag through it to see if there is any problems and keep looking for more defense ammo. Thanks for the heads up!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yep, I made this video before the ammo shortage. It isn’t ideal, but you can test defensive ammo by staggering rounds. In the mag: first 2 defensive rounds, a few target rounds, 2 more defensive rounds in the middle, more target rounds, and then the last 2 defensive rounds. The important thing is to have the mag fully loaded so you get the full spring pressure on the rounds. But, this way you are only using 6 defensive rounds. And make sure you test it with every magazine you plan on using for defense. If possible, testing with a full mag of defensive rounds is still preferred.

[@josephbenge8707]

@@NightwoodGuns I will do that, thanks again!

[@nashvilleusa6802]

Wow i never thought of trying my carry ammo. Thanks def going to tomorrow!

[@ManuelGarcia-mc7pr]

Nashville USA same here

[@bjmartinphotography]

You guys kidding?

[@gunplaytv]

???

[@pushonline1568]

Bear Martin I thought the same thing. Shits common sense.

[@yamahagenos8089]

I always do. At least one or two boxes (it does get expensive).

[@rascal0175]

My granddaughter, son and I bought P365s. They got great guns, I got a lemon. The girl and I got the SAS version and both agree Sig should provide an SAS with a mechanical safety. As a mortician and funeral director she sees lots of death by gunshot. We’d like to avoid accidentally joining that group.

[@JohnSmith-1234]

Now Sig sells P365's with a safety. You can buy a thumb safety grip frame for your Sig P365 and easily convert your P365 to thumb safety watching KZbin videos about how to do it.

[@Wilders53]

I've Ran all kind of different ammo through mine 2000+ rounds, ball,hollow points,+p many different grains. You name it. With zero issues!!! Mine has a made date of 11/8/19 which is ironic because I didn't notice that until after I bought it. My birthday is 11/8/70. Best gun I've ever had👍

[@NightwoodGuns]

Scott Hall Very nice! You have a birthday gun! Glad to hear your P365 has been problem free! It’s a phenomenal little gun! 👍

[@Wilders53]

@@NightwoodGuns lol. It's my mini me!😁✌

[@travisdurham5157]

I'm giving you a shot by subscribing but a little hint that drives me nuts with other channels please start now so it's easy and put all your reviews in playlists. Please and thank you.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. Is there any way in particular you like playlists to be organized? "Gun Reviews" "P365 videos" "Optic Reviews" etc?

[@travisdurham5157]

@@NightwoodGuns You don't have to break it down too much just break it down into like handgun reviews rifle reviews and so on just break it down by category that way we don't have to go searching through hundreds of videos to find what we're looking for.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Travis Durham Thanks, I’ll be sure to do that 👍

[@rigorhead01]

Great video brother! I just got my new P365 yesterday and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I'll be at the range in a day or two and I'll fire every type of ammo I can get my hands on. Thanks for the great video!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Hollis Prince Enjoy your new P365! 👍

[@darkdog6307]

Excellent. I have been considering this pistol, now I am 2nd guessing. I also practice with FMJ and load HP's for defense. HP's are expensive, so I haven't test fired in any of my pistols. I am now. Great video!

[@NightwoodGuns]

This is a QC issue that could happen to any manufacturer that lets lemons slip through. At a minimum it is wise to shoot one mag of your carry ammo through your carry gun. It isn’t necessarily a P365 exclusive issue.

[@reachblowsdick7222]

@Nightwood Guns - The P365 is *finally* good to go, took Sig almost 2 years. Problem is that the Hellcat is now the highest capacity micro pistol in the smallest package in the world. I've shot many P365 with thousands of rounds combined with all of them and had more than my share of issues with the P365. I've shot thousands through the Hellcat and other micros as well with no problems. From my experience, the Hellcat is superior in almost everything. Sights, ergos, muzzle control, capacity, most importantly *reliability* , low-high quality ammo consumption, trigger. The only thing I didn't like the Hellcat over the P365 was the slide serrations which are not very good on the Hellcat. The P365 use to be the best EDC micro, but not anymore. The Hellcat is the same size with more capacity and better mechanics and has already proven to shoot 10K rounds without the pistol malfunctioning, the P365 has yet to hit 1K without a single hiccup. I was planning on buying the P365 at the end of this year after Sig finally got the bugs fixed, but after testing both side by side many times, the Hellcat has now jumped to the top spot on my wish list.

[@RlukeM]

The hellcat looks like a good gun but I just can't buy anything from Springfield after their shady political donations. Looks like a sweet gun though!

[@birdmanbird10]

Good point man....i just shot my G19 and my p365 both with federal 124 self defense ammo...both fired well but the g19 was controllable and accurate with quicker follow up shots...Thanks for the video.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Aaron Sparrow Good thinking testing your self defense ammo 👍 A smaller gun will always jump around a little more. There’s always a trade off. Thanks for watching!

[@birdmanbird10]

@@NightwoodGuns i was disappointed.....i just spent 550 on it and now i want to get rid and make my G19 my EDC..

[@NightwoodGuns]

Aaron Sparrow They are both good choices, but if you can easily conceal the G19, then there’s no reason for the P365. Unless you need a deep-concealment or lightweight handgun.

[@HorsepowerDr]

Aaron Sparrow .. of course the G19 is going to handle it better its a much bigger gun !! the 2 guns are not even in the same category

[@birdmanbird10]

@@HorsepowerDr i agree...i wonder if 115 gr will lower the recoil on my 365?

[@michaelcharlesmudd]

Just purchased my P365. Thank you so much for this VIDEO!!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Congrats on your P365! I’m sure you’ll enjoy it!

[@PracticingLiberty]

Way to keep things moving along. Great video!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks! 👍

[@edozalas1844]

I live in the People's Republic of New Jersey and, like Mass. we can't use hollow points either but we can use Hornandy's Critical Defense. I have tried these in my P365 MS and they work fine! Shooting this little gun is a breeze. The hardest thing is loading the mags.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Ed Ozalas Hollow point laws are some of the stupidest laws on the books... But I’m glad Hornady “polymer plug” rounds are good to go, at least. Gotta build up that finger/hand strength to load those mags! Lol!

[@bigdog4574]

Ed Ozalas honestly after 2 months of having mine and keeping mags always loaded... they are now not any more difficult to load than anything else

[@BrettYoakum]

Just picked one up, and though it'll be expensive, I'll be testing my carry ammo. Thank you very much for doing this review

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for watching! It never hurts to make sure your gun reliably cycles your carry ammo! Good call! 👍

[@frankpalermo9307]

Terific advice. Just came from the range and tested my new sig. Love it

[@NightwoodGuns]

Awesome! Good to hear!

[@714SNF]

solid reminder to test self-defense ammo

[@christianjoos7011]

A sig P365 that wont run hollowpoint. I'd throw it out, not fix it. Never heard of this issue with the P365

[@MrMnmn911]

Brett is 100% right. Target rounds are fun. But always, always, always, hit the range with what you are going to be using for self defense. With _all_ your firearms.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Agreed!

[@mackgiver875]

Another thing I like to do. Run that defense ammo at the end of your range time, after the gun has had a bunch of rounds through it and is relatively dirty as opposed to just cleaned and oiled. Self defense situations don't check to see if your gun's clean. And if possible run it rapid fire as fast as you safely can, cause chances are when the stress and fear are happening that's how you will do it for real.

[@mysticdavestarotmachinesho5093]

Hickok 45 likes the 365 so much he owns two and his son ones one.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It’s a phenomenal little gun! It is still the best in its category, in my opinion.

[@squidly2112]

@@NightwoodGuns - I agree with you completely .. I have about 6,000 rounds through mine in total. I have shot a very wide variety of ammo through it, brass, steel, FMJ, HP, etc.. Not a single malfunction other than failure to slide lock occasionally (has to do with my big hands and grip, I have tested it). I love my P365 and I shoot it whenever I go to the range, along with whatever I am bringing. My P365 is my go to EDC. I don't go anywhere without it.

[@frankm2385]

Great information and suggestions.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’m glad you enjoyed 👍

[@19tank81]

Great review. I purchased two of these P365's last week, they were on sale for $499 each, they are both 2020 models, so hopefully they are good to go, I'll let yall know IN ALL HONESTY how they perform after tomorrows range test/function check. Gonna put Blazer FMJ 124gr through them along with Federal 124gr +P HST Hollow points.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I bet they function flawlessly! 🤘

[@19tank81]

@@NightwoodGuns We'll see lol, I love these guns, more than my Glock 43X. I still can't believe how small this 9mm is with the 12 round magazine's that I purchased!

[@NightwoodGuns]

I settled on the XL for EDC, but I still adore my standard P365. Sig did outstanding work with the P365, for sure. Enjoy shooting! 👍

[@19tank81]

Nightwood Guns XL is sick!!! I just got tired of my full size G17 and M2.0 full size. I love my 43X, but just love how small the P365 is with numerous options with magazines. Stay safe out there.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Agreed, I switched from G19 to the G43 when it came out. Loved the size, hated the capacity. Went back to the G19 and then to the P365. Once the XL came out alongside the 15 round mag, I was sold. I can’t wait to see what they come up with next. 👍

[@kirkeberding304]

Definitely worth the consideration and a small box of HD rounds. Good catch!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks!

[@JohnDoe-sx2zk]

My 365 went thru federal syntech and hydra shok hollow points with no issue

[@NightwoodGuns]

As it should! 👍 Good to hear!

[@chriswang9107]

Nice review.and thanks for the tip, will definitely test the hollow point before carrying them.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for watching! Have fun with the testing!

[@jeremyluder494]

Will be testing my different loads soon. Thanks for your information and great work overall.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for watching! Good luck with testing!

[@adrianamezcua5679]

As soon as I find some hollow point I will test out all my guns. Good advice man, never thought about it

[@NightwoodGuns]

Good idea! Hopefully you can find some hollow points soon 👍

[@rustyyates421]

I have large hands and I have never had any problems of any kind with the p365. Riding the slide is a bad idea no matter what size pistol you use.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Everyone is different, I’ve seen people with large hands or long fingers accidentally ride the slide lock. I’m glad it isn’t an issue for you! 👍 Thanks for the comment, I’m sure others will find it useful.

[@rustyyates421]

@@NightwoodGuns I agree, I am simply pointing out that unless there is something actually wrong with the firearm , the vast majority of the time, its the shooter and not the gun. Early on, there were some problems with the sig p365 ,but they have definitely worked those out. As you said, everyone is different but the p365 is the same, so for some, it means most likely adjusting the grip to the fire arm.

[@NightwoodGuns]

You are 💯 correct!

[@jrbarilla]

Have both carry the 365. 43x is a fine handgun. Just dimensionally is not the same as the 365. Also, strange but I shoot better with the 365. I only own two sigs the 226 and the 365. Most of my others are glocks. I agree, always test your cc gun with your self defense ammo. Even better if your gonna practice with fmj’s at the range. Using the same load for both fmj’s and hollow is best.

[@wasichuwacanta7010]

What sane person who has a concealed carry gun DOESN'T run some self defense ammo through it before carrying it? Just got my Sig P365 XL and a 15 rd mag on Thur, cleaned the gun and all 3 mags (had to change the floor plate on the 15 rd mag anyway as it comes set up for the P365), and ran 234 rounds of Federal 124 gr Syntech through it (all 3 mags 6 times each) and all 3 mags (39 rounds) with Federal 124gr JHP. I'll do that again before this gun goes in rotation as my carry gun (Kahr PM9 is my pocket pistol, Kahr K9 my other carry gun), but with the capacity of the XL, especially with the 15 rd mag, it will probably be my primary carry gun. My advice is to run no less than about 500 rounds through any gun before depending on it to possibly save your life, or the lives of others, and the difference between a 32.5 cent round and an 80 cent one is not significant enough to not make some of those rounds what you intend to carry.

[@NightwoodGuns]

You are right on the money! But it just doesn’t occur to some people (especially newer shooters) to run defensive ammo through their guns. They just assume it will work simply because they don’t know any better.

[@wasichuwacanta7010]

@@NightwoodGuns I guess I was a little too harsh in just assuming that people would run some rounds of whatever they intend to carry through their carry guns, and shouldn't have implied that you're insane if you don't! Hey, I'm old, so I get a little leeway in being a bit crotchety sometimes! Actually turned 67 on 5/14, and that's when my FFL guy received my P365XL from Joe Bob's, so it was a birthday present to myself, and I'm happy to say it performed flawlessly. Thinking of getting the Holosun 507K, since my eyes are not what they used to be, although the stock sights are pretty easy to pick up, so might spend that $ on more ammo. Thanks for your reviews, and subscribed!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for the sub! I’m glad you are loving the XL, it’s one one of my favorites. I am waiting patiently for the 507k, myself. Thanks for commenting and happy belated birthday! 👍

[@wasichuwacanta7010]

@@NightwoodGuns Thanks, and keep on posting your great reviews!

[@heeebeeegeeebeee]

Great high quality review! I hope you get more subs! The one thing you forgot to mention, is that the Sig p365 seems made for tiny handed people. No idea why they went with such a tiny circumference on the grip but ... shoot it next to a Shield and you'll see the difference. I wish they would make a large hand friendly grip module because this gun is a pain in the ass to shoot compared to shields/XDs's and similar.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yeah, it’s got a skinny grip. I think Sig wanted to get it as small as possible for the pocket-carriers. Another module would be cool! The XL module seems to feel a bit better with the extended beaver tail. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

[@Agent-vj3ns]

I put 2 talon grips on mine

[@heeebeeegeeebeee]

Agent 47 that’s a good idea. I was thinking of doing a hogue or something. We’ll see

[@jramezcua2824]

Good point👍I'ma test mine.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Excellent! I'm sure it will perform well. But it's good to find out on the range instead of during a gunfight.

[@Blake875]

did Sig ever make a gray P365? My local store shows online that they have model 365-9-BXR3-MS-GRY, and the pic shows a gray lower polymer grip/trigger portion. I can’t find anything anywhere else showing that Sig made a gray version.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It sounds like a new release that was leaked early with the listing. Sig does stealthy releases like that with new colorations. If not, it could be a dealer exclusive. Either way, that’s a cool color 👍

[@Blake875]

@@NightwoodGuns It may be exclusive to Academy Sports. I just put on on order. A reviewer posted a pic. I’ll have to see it in person. Not sure if I like the two tone

[@Blake875]

Well, I bought one on Monday, and I like the color a lot, much more than I expected.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@Blake875 I've always been a fan of gray/black handguns! I'm glad you are happy with it!

[@scottsummers4115]

Just saying I have the same one. Bought at Academy sports may of 2020. Like the color.

[@NastyMack238]

Exactly why I sold my P365 it kept jamming with self defense ammo. I upgraded to the S&W M&P M2.0 45acp Shield.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I guess I wasn’t the only one. Luckily Sig fixed mine up. But you can’t go wrong with a Shield 👍

[@jardinero9112]

Have you shot the p365 xl ? I like the xl better. The xl is about the smallest handgun that i can feel comfortable with, as far as slide manilupitation and pulling the gun from the holster on such a small gun. The only issue i had was the striker drag. Did your p365 have striker drag? I used fmj hollow points all different kind of grain. Love the sights, the trigger and the grip. I think its a great gun for some one with smaller hands. Thanks for sharing.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I'm actually currently working on a review of the XL. My standard P365 has striker drag, my XL does not. But, with their striker/firing pin redesigns, it doesn't seem that striker drag is much of an issue. I agree, the P365 and XL are great little guns!

[@jardinero9112]

@@NightwoodGuns i gave the p365 to a female relative with small hands. I didn't know sig did anything for the striker drag. That's great i wonder if they can send out the parts or you will have to send the gun in? I bought the one i had in feb of 19. The manufacturer date is jan of 19.

[@adriangeary9628]

I bought the xl in the tacpac. I thought sig was the best guns out there. I was wrong went through 30rds before it locked up. Cant disassemble it. I had to send it back to sig.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Sounds like you were one of the unfortunate ones who got a lemon. With the volume that Sig is pumping out, they can't keep up with quality control. It sucks. I'm confident they'll fix it and make it right for you. I just hate that it left the factory like that.

[@markdougherty9917]

You're like the linus tech tips of guns my dude keep it up

[@NightwoodGuns]

Haha! 😂 Glad you enjoyed, thanks

[@mnrodriguez]

My P365 is from May 20218 and has never, ever malfunction with any ammo, including the ones you mentioned.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Awesome! It’s working exactly how it should! 👍

[@mnrodriguez]

@@NightwoodGuns, it has been perfect so far. I have tried various ammo brands successfully. Of course, not all out there. Your advice in relation to try the D ammo first is excellent. Thanks!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Right on! 👍 I’m glad your P365 is running well. Mine has been perfect since its repair. It is definitely a “best in class” firearm.

[@zackiinu7194]

Great advice, but I would think that it’s common sense to ensure your carry ammo is going to work through your gun. 1,500 rounds through my P365 (4/2018) and not one problem or malfunction. I just can’t land on a method of carry. Pocket or AIWB? Thanks!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Zacki Inu You would think that would be common sense... but I’m an instructor, and the vast majority of students I get have never fired a JHP in their life. It just doesn’t occur to some people. Sounds like your P365 is good to go! And I always go for AIWB. Way faster and easier to deploy from than the pocket.

[@RideForLifeCR250R]

Neither pocket or appendix.. Carry it right

[@Ac22768]

The point about the slide not locking open is a grip issue. In the Israeli military, we don’t put our thumbs forward. Not only does it look way less goofy, it has practical applications too 😉

[@poppacooter]

ugh i just got one. i will be testing as you said thank you so much. subscribed as of today.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I'm sure yours will function perfectly. But, the only way to know for sure is to test it. It's a great little gun and I'm sure you will love it. Thanks for the sub and I'm glad you found the video useful!

[@schrade153uh]

Sent mine back to Sig and still have FTF (light primer strikes). Going back to Glock!

[@NightwoodGuns]

If that was my experience, I’d do the same.

[@jessemartinez2475]

Got my p365 in 2018. Shoot 400 rds through it with varius brands of ammo. Started jamming. Took it apart and clean. It shot great for about 100 rds. Started haveing ejecting issues. Its unfortunate because i really liked the gun. but i just cant have that. Haveing that issue on the back of my mind carrying it. Im going to sell it. However i stayed with sig of course. And now carry a p320 x compact. With the same great sights. Over a thousand rounds not one hicup. Even useing the cheapest crappyiest ammo i coud find. But carry with Horaday critical defence ammo.

[@peters303]

Curious to hear how many P365 owners out there have: a. Ran defense rounds through their weapons? b. How many similar cases to yours? Local indoor range does not permit the use of defense rounds, therefore I'm choked as to how I can now verify that my weapon won't also malfunction. Thanks for reaching out

[@NightwoodGuns]

It seems like it is a very rare issue: only two people in the comment section have had the same problem mine had. But, like you said, how many people actually test their P365 with defensive rounds? Bummer that your range doesn't allow defensive ammo. I wonder what their reasoning is.

[@yamahagenos8089]

A: Yes, I did. I always do. More to get used to the recoil than anything else. B: No issues. Weird that your range doesn't allow defensive rounds.

[@thomasschrein7584]

Over the past couple of years I’ve read about so many problems with the p365 I would never buy one. It’s a great concept having 10 plus rounds IF sig ever gets the bugs worked out of the design.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I think Sig has worked the bugs out of the design at this point. It’s their QC that lets some bad apples through. But with the sheer volume they are shipping, it has to be impossible to keep up.

[@arn369]

Thanks. Just bought one today

[@NightwoodGuns]

You made a good choice! Enjoy! 👍

[@arn369]

@@NightwoodGuns thanks. My friends all helped me with selecting. They were happy but somewhat jealous lol

[@NightwoodGuns]

Sounds like you have good friends! Just make sure they don’t steal your P365... lol!

[@Basedbrawler]

I bought one as well and don't regret it one bit. Mine came with 3 magazines(I got the NRA edition)

[@eesh_alladin3494]

Awesome review, I think I’ve made the decision to make this my concealed carry gun.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Eesh_alladin It’s a great little gun! 👍

[@eesh_alladin3494]

Nightwood Guns what concealed carry holster are you carrying for the sig p365?

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@eesh_alladin3494 Any kydex holster made by a reputable company will do. I use a holster made by JT Holsters. facebook.com/JTHolstersHutchinsonAmerica/

[@marksusername]

What's the difference in using target 115 or 125 grain ammo for self defense and hollow points? I mean I know hollow tips are going to mess somebody up worse, but wouldn't regular shots work too?

[@NightwoodGuns]

The weight of the bullet affects the velocity/trajectory of the bullet, the depth of penetration (and in the case of hollow points: the size of expansion.) Hollow points are much preferred for self defense since they typically do not over penetrate. When they expand, they dump the vast majority of their energy into the target. This obviously causes more damage, but it also slows the bullet down. Target ammo (full metal jacket) does not expand, so it does not slow down as much (unless it hits a bone dead-on.) The chance of over penetration is much higher. Your bullet could go through the bad guy and hit an innocent person behind them. This is why every responsible and educated person carries hollow points. I hope that was helpful. Check out Lucky Gunner’s ballistic gel tests to see how different defensive loads compare concerning depth of penetration and expansion.

[@marksusername]

@@NightwoodGuns Interesting, thank you for all the info. I guess I'll have to get some 9mm hollow points when I get the chance.

[@andy1056]

Mine works fine with everything I’ve fed it, but good advise. ...always test your gun with the Ammo you’ll carry in it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Mine has been perfect since receiving it back from Sig. You never know how well your gun will cycle JHPs until you test it.

[@donaldwagner524]

Excellent video, A very good point about trying all ammo that you intend to use in the gun. I always start with the self defense ammo in a new gun.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! That’s pretty hardcore: starting with your carry ammo! I usually put 250-500 rounds of FMJs through it before testing JHPs. I bet starting with carry ammo separates the mice from the men with your new guns. Thanks for commenting! 👍

[@Lloydski]

Sig has now got this issue fixed. However if you do have an older one and are watching this vid saying oh no just shoot target ammo thru it for a piece of mind. I can assure you if you empty 11 rounds of target ammo into someone it will get the the job done. Like always try to avoid getting into that situation in the first place. God forbid shoot someone now a days and you might end up in prison the rest of your life even it if it was a justified shooting, Just saying.

[@Jeof54]

I fired 300 round with hollow point and nothing malfunctions.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Great! Working perfectly as it should! 👍

[@andresanchez7049]

I’m actually a new a gun owner myself, bought a P365 this last March. As time progressed though the year to get better with the firearm, I felt I needed that extra layer of safety. Sold it and now in the market for either a double/single action or 1911/2011. Right now, I’m eyeing Beretta and Staccato.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Both are great options. I like the LTT Beretta and the Wilson Combat Beretta. And, of course, I love Staccatos. Learning the double action first shot on the Beretta and committing the manipulation of the safety on the Staccato to muscle memory are the only challenges of adopting those firearms in a defensive role over striker guns like the P365. You can’t make a wrong choice between those two, so get what feels best. And shoot them both if you can. 👍 You are going to love whatever you get!

[@andresanchez7049]

@@NightwoodGuns thanks for your input, much appreciated

[@knight3930]

Great review and great advise on new purchases or even those purchases that yet to be tested with defensive ammunition.