Sig Sauer p365 vs. p938

A very unscientific, but hopefully helpful comparison.
/ gunsandthegospel

[@VMEMotor5]

I own both. Both have been completely reliable with no malfunctions of any kind. The 938 has a slight edge in accuracy in my hands and it pocket carries just a little easier. If I'm going to belt carry, I prefer a slightly larger firearm. The 365 can be pocket carried though and at times the extra ammo it holds is comforting. This is from a guy who carried 5 & 6 shot revolvers for years. With either pistol I carry the extended mags, 7 in the 938, 12 in the 365, not so much for the added capacity, as much for the added grip.

[@codytheduke6562]

I agree, I like both as well and do like the comfort of the extra rounds. When I carry my 938 I carry 2 extra mags so 21+1 with an extra reload compared to the one extra mag with the 365 which is 24+1, however I am also more accurate with the 938. For me I think it is the grip angle of the 365, same way I don't shoot my Shield quite as well. I have recently been carrying the Mossberg MC2SC with a 3.4 in barrel and a 14+1 with another 14 and shoot it well. Still love the 938 though.

[@carlosberrios241]

I have a p938 and was thinking of selling and getting the 365x. would you do it? what is your opinion?

[@codytheduke6562]

@@carlosberrios241 I wouldn't sell it to get the P365, I would keep it and save to get the P365 if that is what you really want

[@codytheduke6562]

@@carlosberrios241 honestly I don't carry or shoot my P365 as much anymore, I find myself carrying my mossberg mc2sc, which is not as pricey, has a 3.4 in barrel and sig is 3.1 unless you get the XL and capacity could get you up to 14 with the X or XL but more money. To each his/her own but I would never get rid of my P938. I have thought about swapping the 365

[@carlosberrios241]

@@codytheduke6562 thanks brother. just looked up the mc2sc looks good. what made you choose that one over your 365 and would you do the regular 365 or the 365x if you could go back and repurchase?

[@illthinkofsomethinglater9095]

Thanks for that very thorough clearing of the guns. I was really afraid i might get shot through the screen.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

you wouldn't just duck?

[@JayHutchG]

One more thing. I'm not crazy about Nutnfancy, but he does know and try LOTS of firearms & the Sig P938 ranked as their "Hall of Fame Carry" 8-9 years ago.

[@steven3379]

Thanks for the video! I am seriously considering the p938 as my first carry gun, and my first all metal gun...!!

[@gunsandthegospel7494]

It would be a great choice. I am now several weeks after the fact and keep going back and forth. I have been carrying the p365 more recently, but I think that might be due to the holster. I may buy the holster for the p938 and see if I change my mind again. That said, if you want all metal, the p938 is hard to be for a VERY concealable piece.

[@bigdog4574]

If you've not yet made a decision, P365 has 10 rounds. enough said. I have I love it. 938 feels nice but much heavier. for women I recommend p238. If you have money for both get both, if you want to get one, p365 is the better option for $400 less.

[@steven3379]

No decision yet I did see a used p938 very nice, with the 22lr conversion slide & barrel asking 900.00 with a 10%discount, I might off offer 800.00, what do you guys think?

[@bigdog4574]

@@steven3379 I am not sure about the 22LR conversion. I certainly would not pay that money for 22LR, you want 22LR get the Ruger LCP2. Get the 9mm or a .380 acp. For 9mm true CCW I would recommend P365. for a .380 ACP a p238. Make sure you pick one that is comfortable in hand but after ALOT of research and second-guessing I have both p365 9mm and p238 in .380 acp and am very happy with both. Second best is MP Shield 2.0, the only downside is that it carries 7 rounds.

[@steven3379]

@@bigdog4574 It has both a 9mm and a 22lr barrel and slides for each! Two guns really!

[@MrZonacat1]

Thanks for this video. I own the P938 and always wondered how it compared to the P365. I just subscribed.

[@janisareeves5935]

Thanks for the video. I have the P238 which I absolutely love, but wanted 2 more to carry concealed. I just purchased both the 938 & 365. I held the 365 & liked the way it felt. If the 938 shoots like my 238, I'll be ecstatic. Can't wait to pick up my new babies.

[@Iliek]

foul creature born of lust and inconsideration for the health of the offspring

[@lro001]

@@Iliek ?

[@l.bolton9432]

Any updates on your 365 and 938? I also carry the 238 as my concealed carry and absolutely love everything about it. I’m looking at the 938 or 365 and wanted to see if you had any thoughts on them since you bought them both. Thanks in advance.

[@michaelsweaney3890]

The P238 is a fantastic pocket/micro carry gun. Still my favorite one to shoot at the range. 🎯🔫 Built like a Russian tank, smooth as a singer sewing machine.

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

Great vid, been waiting for 1 like this. I love the 365xl & want 1.. I do have the p938 extreme with a 10+lb Trigger pull. I've installed the MCarbo Trigger Spring Kit & polished every metal on metal piece I could & got the pull down to 6.5lbs which makes it super hard to group well. It does now with the Viridian R5 Laser. 15yards I can drive nails with the p938 & there's so many concealed holster options available with the laser or without. No printing at all & extremely comfortable to Conceal Carry. I bought extra 7nd mags from Springfield for the 911 & they fit perfectly at 1/2 the cost of SIG mags.

[@DV77737]

What the what u taklin bout

[@danstewart2770]

Dimension specs and ammo capacity aside, the big question is single action vs striker fire, which comes down to preferences around: 1. trigger pull 2. reliability 3. carry condition & safety thereof. These considerations are distinctly different for pistols of this diminutive size as compared to standard and compact sized guns.

[@ThatsTheChicagoWay45]

Thank you for this video. These are exactly the two CCW options ive been looking at. I've leaned towards the P938 Legion for its overall value in terms of materials, build, sites, and magazine offering (3). Thanks again.

[@gunsandthegospel7494]

That's an awesome package! The mag well does add a hair more to the grip if that matters to anyone. Also, now that there's a SAS option, if I didn't already have 3 of them, I'd seriously consider that.

[@larrypastor3979]

Well, I own them both and they are my two favorite carry firearms. I acquired and tested many different compact carry handguns over the past year including the S&W Shield, Kimber micro, Taurus G3c, S&W bodyguard 380, and Springfield xps. The Sigs were the most reliable (no failures w/ various types of domestic and foreign ammo), most accurate, and easiest to shoot. Very little recoil on the p365 and nearly no felt recoil on the P938. I do recommend the thumb safety version of the P365, and tritium night sights for both. I love Heckler & Koch too, and the H&K Vp9 is my home defense pistol, but too big for concealed carry, and the H&K vp9 SK ("sub-Kompact") really isn't a whole lot smaller than the Vp9. So my arrangement is P365 for concealed carry and P938 for BUG (love that acronym for "Back-Up-Gun"). Bersa Thunder .380 ACP also good for concealed carry but I favor Sig quality since my life may depend on it, and keep a Thunder in each car for a car firearm.

[@darrenbishop4327]

@@larrypastor3979 Agreed on the quality over the Bersa. They are made from possible the cheapest metal on earth.

[@lgwappo]

My SIG P290RS 9mm is smaller than the P938. It's .4" shorter, .2" thinner & same height at 3.9". Also it doesn't have a safety since it's DAO. Aim & shoot. Has restrike. Not a target pistol but plenty accurate for self-defense distances. Discontinued a few years ago & I got mine just before they disappeared. Never jams, eats anything. That DAO trigger pull isn't bad. Fairly smooth & not too heavy. Less than half the price of the P938.

[@joeyoung3319]

Sweet pair...I love them both (938 and 365XL, in my case) for different reasons.

[@Renaldo135]

Great review. Thank You. I love both those firearms but don't own the 938. Always wanted one but too small. The 365 I do own and it took time for me to get used to shooting such a small gun but with the 12 round mags it helped because it adds to the grip for me. For small guns I carry the P365, A Ruger LCR or a Walther PPSM2. All shoot well in my hand.

[@christianjones4624]

was curious of this as well. thanks

[@danstewart2770]

This video can be comfortably watched/listened to at 1.5 playback speed.

[@bigdog4574]

P365 all day any day, always keep going back as my #1 CCW. Feels great, shoots great, 10 rounds, in non covid times $499 compared to $700 for 938 with less rounds and I believe is heavier.

[@jakeblack7784]

The 938 is lighter and more reliable. I have both; it's about a toss up though.

[@HitMan3385]

I recommend the Kimber micro 9 extended 8 round mag for the 938. It’s a perfect fit with absolutely no adjustments

[@codytheduke6562]

Aside from the mako kimber is for hipsters who show their guns to their friends more than they shoot them.

[@jakeblack7784]

The reliability of the 938 is much more reliable, a major factor in comparison. Thanks for your imput.

[@jamesstark3402]

I have carried the p365 (pocket) for several years, it’s my primary EDC, but looking to add another 9mm to the rotation. The 938 has my attention

[@BryantBaudelaire]

I own both of these and I’m loving both of them

[@masterplumbermark]

Good video,,, I have both pistols... both are quality guns... I like the 938 better.-- its almost exactly like the Kimber I honestly think Sig should take the p938 and simply increase the handle width just enough to put a 11 round mag into that gun..... I think the 938 with an 11 round mag would sell like hot cakes.... People would probably go nuts over it....

[@Iliek]

nah

[@micronious5747]

I have both, also…prefer the 938!

[@luanahmedi782]

Yes.

[@codytheduke6562]

When you stack size on table, biggest difference to me that is noticeable in your video and shooting is the grip angle. 365 is so up and down, I love both but shoot my 938 much better, all metal and not to heavy. I'll take reliable and accurate all day.

[@sparks701]

Great review. P938 and hellcat are my go to ccw. P365 just didn’t feel right in my hand. Love my 938 but with the times we live in now I wanted a few more rounds.

[@beerman9807]

A friend of mine just got the P365 and he came by to show it to me and I like the design but didn’t feel good in my hand since my hands are bigger so I ordered him a 32 rd mag and it didn’t make a difference either , I will not get it because I can’t grip it right

[@TheGunnyBadger03xx]

Magguts can increase your round count +1 per magazine.

[@danbeach123]

Really only 3rds using the 7rd mag would be the same height. As for a pocket carry concealment the p938 will cover better

[@feelixtheglovinggiraffe759]

I'd say the biggest differences are the trigger, round count and weight. I have a 365 but I've carried a 238.

[@jasperwright9237]

I own both, P365 is bed side gun and P938 is carry. I put the Sig safety on the P365 in about 5 minutes. I love 1911s and hammer guns. The P365 is nice now that it has a safety, but it still does not have a hammer. The P365 is the ONLY striker fired gun that I own!

[@zyzzuschrist3410]

Exact video I was looking for

[@Spencer-vq7se]

lets all take a moment to unanomously agree that p938 is the sexier gun

[@DanDannyDanielleBob]

Bummer that they stopped making the 22lr conversion for the 938. A light rail, rds plate, and reliable 22 kit would make for the ultimate 1 and done

[@t.davidgordon2425]

Very helpful comparison; thank you for sharing. I purchased the P938, because I am small of stature, and in the cooler months, I carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II in .45, and the P938 has the same manual of arms, for warmer months. A former student of mine permitted me to shoot his 365, and I thought it had the best striker-fired operation I had ever shot in a small semi-auto (I previously owned both Glock 23 and Glock 27 in .40, and liked them both, but thought the 365 had a better action than the Glocks). Had I not carried a 1911 for so long, I might have chosen the 365. But, as someone who switches from the one to the other, depending on carrying conditions, I stayed with the 938. Were I thirty or forty years younger, with little or no experience with the 1911 manual of arms, I would probably have elected the 365. Both are fine firearms. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. Be safe, and happy shooting!

[@bobperrine6193]

It may not be "scientific" but is very well donen

[@dusty_dietrich]

Great video! I can't find these in stores now, but could you tell me if the Sig P938's slide is easy to rack and operate? I know striker fired pistols are naturally a little more difficult to rack which is why I'm leaning towards the P938. Thank you!

[@codytheduke6562]

I have a 938 SAS and it is easy to rack, compared to my 365, I use it more though

[@MS-mr4zm]

I have p938 & can vouch it’s very smooth & easy to operate very much like a well milled 1911 .45 but in smaller dimensions

[@JayHutchG]

Good vid. I have carried a P938 fr 4 years now and love it. However I am a 1911 fan, so ergonomics and trigger of the P938 were my personal selling points. Mine is perfectly reliable. VERY crisp and consistent trigger pull. A heavy 5-6 pound trigger pull, but that's ok for a defensive firearm. I would have liked to see & hear your option on the trigger pull and ergonomic difference. The P365 likely isn't a good first handgun for a new shooter as its light weight with stout defensive rounds does result in a lot of felt recoil. Nothing that would bother an experienced shooter, but may surprise a new shooter. Love to know those ergonomic differences with the 365 from someone who has both. Great that the 365 has more rounds, but if you ever have an incident where you need more than 7 rounds, the shooter will make the diff, not 7 rounds vs 10. Trigger trigger trigger. Practice practice practice right? The P365 has my attention for sure & I am a bit of a SIG fam boy. But I have tried MANY striker fired pistols, and just don't like their feel. Of course I own a Glock 19 and love it. But you know compared to a good single action "1911-ish" trigger they are a bit like a a small staple gun in feel. Long pull and another staple is fired. Long reset. 938 a great 1911-ish feel and operation. Great carry inside/outside waistband and/or pocket.

[@garylanders1470]

Well done, thank you.

[@MS-mr4zm]

I have a P938 extreme I use as 1 of my main CCWs (along w/ an S&S 380 BG) & had been contemplating getting a P365 & using that more often for the added ammo capacity & even tho I know the P938 has a safety & Sig QC is top notch I just have this aversion to carrying a single action pistol cocked/loaded - shouldn’t be the case but is what it is lol. On other hand I’m not a huge guy & I have an athletic build typically wear slimmer fitting clothes so the extra slimness of the of the P938 is a plus for me. I was figuring I could put S&W .380 away & cycle between the P365/P938 depending on clothing/climate

[@Mike-Ham]

I had that same concern about carrying “cock and locked” with a manual safety. In my opinion though, it is much safer to carry cocked and locked with a manual safety, versus carrying something like a striker fired Glock, which is 60% cocked when chambered (with no manual thumb safety,)

[@MS-mr4zm]

@@Mike-Ham yeah I understand that too, but from purely physical appearance, that hammers out on the open w/ only a small indentation keeping it in place, just makes ya more concerned even if it’s not warranted. At the end of the day the P365 is similar size & holds more rounds

[@Mike-Ham]

@@MS-mr4zm yeah, but I’m addition to manual thumb safety, the P938 also has an internal firing pin safety, as well as a hammer safety which prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. The hammer safety stops the hammer in an 1/8 cocked position (just short of hitting the firing pin). I own and carry both guns regularly in rotation. Definitely pros and cons to both, but in terms of carrying safely, I have to give the nod to the 938. Everyone’s preferences are different tho

[@Mike-Ham]

@@MS-mr4zm here’s a great video showing this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJvPknh8mpKXb7M

[@charlesshankle3178]

Both guns are excellent guns. I have both and the P938 is a true micro carry gun. The P365 and especially the P365XL and Macro variants are in my opinion sub-compact guns due to their length of grip and/or barrel. To put it another way, I can mexican carry a P938 a hell of a lot more easily than a P365.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

Good comparison 2 Good guns.

[@spy8464BB]

Glad I have the P938 after seeing the difference. I wish gun video makers would stop with the proving the gun is unloaded. I'm positive you are not going to shoot me or any other viewers. Now, if you shoot yourself then I'm almost certain the video would not be posted or it might be posted on a Darwin compilation video. It's boring and a waste of everybody's time. But most of all it's a constant reminder that our society has lost all common sense. For example, "This plastic bag is not a toy". People in other countries laugh at our stupidity.

[@billcasso5428]

Excellent thanks

[@virshawn]

thanks for the vid

[@gunsandthegospel7494]

Thanks for watching!

[@warmachinegaming-zf2tn]

As a lefty, I appreciate the p938 a lot more than the 365. Ambidextrous safety. Also it being an all-metal gun, it will keep its heft even with less ammunition which will help consistency of recoil mitigation. I've shot both, I only own the 938. But I am much more accurate with the 938 then the 365.

[@axelfoleyt]

So we need a new video with the CSX compared to the 938? Is it on the list?

[@DV77737]

I was waiting to hear a little Jesus talk after your gun review. You know the good news

[@brunojung1984]

SIG 365 = 365 day carry SIG 938 = ???? Thank you for the detailed review :) I love SIG!!

[@jvcorkran]

938 day carry :P I love my 238 and 938. I like the 365 too, but I don't know if I like the slightly bigger feel and polymer, and am favorable to the hammer fired. I have the P320 and switched to a metal frame that I like a lot better.

[@voltaire5427]

938 is for extraterrestrials

[@BenHayat]

Which one shoots better?

[@gunsandthegospel7494]

I prefer the p938! If you have large hands, you might want to take a look at the BRG model. Thanks for watching!

[@robertwhitcomb6105]

@@gunsandthegospel7494 BRG-black rubber grip. Has a very nice feel to it

[@hugeslacker]

I wish sig would have made a p224 sized p239. A single stack da/sa. I'm thinking about buying a p938 or p238 but I really like their da/sa controls.

[@lyleswavel320]

I carry kimber micro 9, I don't figure I'll be in a Hollywood scene 5 gun fighters were I'll need 15 or 25 rounds 8 rounds in gun and 6 round clip is enough and weighs 15.5 ounces so easy to carry, very light

[@carlosberrios241]

Great video. Keep up with the great work. I am looking to get the p365x but dont know if I should keep my P938, any one have any input? Would you keep both or sell one to get the other? I am 5'9" with dad bod AKA tactical muffin top and do not know of anyone who carries IWB kydex holsters comfortably. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all.

[@voltaire5427]

I don't think anyone can answer that question for you. Guns are like noses. Don't let others pick them for you.

[@leemp337]

where are you located. may be interested in taking off your hands. I'm in san antonio tx

[@carlosberrios241]

@@leemp337 Jacksonville Florida.

[@em-rx1wy]

The 938 is easier to carry-it’s almost a pocket gun. Get the X or XL if you want a larger carry option. I had the 365 but found myself going back to the 938 because I was more accurate with it. My large option is a Glock 32.

[@carlosberrios241]

@@em-rx1wy thanks a lot. I still have my 938 as my backpack/sling bag gun but my new daily carry is the 365x. havent had any issues as of yet but loving the feel now that I lost some weight and don't have to deal with the tactical muffin top aka DAD BOD.

[@buzzmeanytime]

P365 has more ammo. 8 more rounds compared to 7 rounds of the P938. 15 round mag compared to 7 rounds. SIG ALL DAY!

[@TH-oh8cw]

Why not use a white surface so we could actually see the entirety of each gun. Hate complain but I think you should know.

[@ShowemRight]

I'm so use to a pistol having an external hammer that I can see, and cock back, not comfortable with a striker fired pistol, but it would take some time getting use to.

[@SCOTRANDOLPH]

I totally get that. My wife has the 938 and I have a 1911 .45 Sig. I want to dial down for a concealed carry to something like the 938 but when I shoot it at the range it is too snappy for me. I can't bring myself to shoot a striker fire pistol bc it just doesn't make sense in my head how the heck the thing works lol. I just watched a video on the new p365x Macro. I will have to check that one out in person. Which is a striker fire SMH.

[@randyrush9856]

Wow, glad you don't consider 16.5% weight gain "a whole lot." Because that's like me back when I was down to around 185 lbs. but then I ballooned up to about 215. 😆

[@michigunsanta8680]

I own a 938 and have handled a P365 at a LGS, P365 is a larger pistol. I can pocket carry my 938 I don’t think I’d pocket carry a P365.

[@yoyoyo8011]

I pocket my P365 if I’m wearing long pants like in the winter. If dits fine. I don’t pocket my P365 in the summertime in my shorts. I use a Smith and Wesson bodyguard 380 for summer shorts. So I my opinion summertime shorts bad idea P365

[@joshwagner8954]

By every measure the 365 is superior....but ...the 365 is kinda boring the 938 is just cooler. Not sure that pure aesthetics should be the deciding factor though.

[@PLZU81Truth]

Anything over a ploymer in civilian lfe.

[@mikebeaumont7558]

Guns and the gospel? You crack me up. How many rounds would Jesus Put in the perp? Hahahahahahahahh gasp.. wheeze , oh golly hahahahah

[@damirjalali]

How many pound each trigger 🤔

[@kilrahbi]

bout as much as ur mom weighs for each

[@damirjalali]

" Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance " --Confucious

[@RICH_E]

I can tell you just based on this video what you are doing weong... That advice first off is not good... You need to squeeze the trigger with your tip of your finger it should not go past the first joint in your finger... Ive shot this gun for over 10 years now. Your issue is your finger placement...

[@royfranklin3697]

I have both and love each one equally. I tend to be more accurate with the P938 for some reason.

[@jaywinters2483]

I'm 61 years old with arthritis. Packed 1911 for years. I much prefer the SA over the long heavy pull of striker guns. Traded my 365 for the 938. Most self defense shootings are just 2 or 3 shots. LOVE my 938 trigger!. Did you know when the Lord said "I am the Good Shepard", He was refering to the text in Ezekiel 34? Learned that today.

[@SMACLIFTS]

I have a beautiful custom bi-tone p938, three mags, mounted laser and multiple holsters that are magnetic actuators for the laser. I'm looking to trade for a 938 x macro comp. If anyone is interested hit me up.

[@daveswaim9827]

Do you still have this?

[@SMACLIFTS]

@@daveswaim9827 yes

[@PastorDaveSwaim]

@@SMACLIFTSI’d like to hear more. Is there a way to take this conversation out of the comments?

[@SMACLIFTS]

@@PastorDaveSwaim I put my email in here twice but I think it keeps bouncing out probably some policy from KZbin.

[@SMACLIFTS]

@@PastorDaveSwaim maybe putting it like that will work so just add that name with the normal Gmail designation for email at the end

[@hillshepherd9444]

Be Fair : you have to get your hands on the "NEW" - "SCCY" "DVG" (10+1 rounds) !! Well built, inexpensive (about $230 no red dot) , life time , no questions asked, “ life time “ warranty, that follows the gun to what ever owner has it at the time, any time . Almost the exact same size as the Sig P365, & the Springfield Hellcat . The DVG (stands for "David vs. Goliath) going up against the rest of the BIG GUN industry {Sig, Springfield etc.}. Striker fired, about a 5 lb. pull, good reset, flat trigger, ALSO, newer, better grip (than their CPX-2 which no one liked because of the long DAO & reset) {thinner between back-strap & forward/front of grip. Personally, I'd buy 3 of these instead of one of the others. NO I don't work for them.

[@gunsandthegospel7494]

Thanks for the report! I have seen several people carrying these, but I have never even touched one. Maybe I’ll get a chance to shoot one one day! Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!

[@YaoEspirito]

"lingth", "ind to ind". Hick English😅

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

I dislike the p938 for the simple fact that it's a single action weapon. Such weapons are usually going to be used for concealed carry, and your concealed carry weapon should never have something like an external safety that has to be disengaged before you can use it. You can train as much as you want with it... But there's no way to train for an event where you have to pull your carry gun on an actual threat. Muscle memory takes over at that point.

[@jakeblack7784]

Totally agree, although I think the 938 is a better gun; just don't like having to do anything but pull the trigger when someone or animal is suddenly attacking.

[@jvcorkran]

It's just something you train with. I can understand that, but I usually use only manual safety. I have the P238, P938, P320, Beretta M9, and all my rifles & PCC have safeties. It takes a split second to disengage them and it doesn't come with extra thought or effort with practice. Often with safeties it comes with reduced trigger pull weight. I'd rather disengage a safety and have a lower trigger pull weight. I do believe the 365 does have a lighter trigger than the 938 though. Also comes with the safety of not blowing your nuts off.

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

@@jvcorkran you can train all day but you will always forget it in a situation where you have to draw your weapon in defense because there's no way to train for that. There's a reason that we instructors never train students to carry with safeties on or manipulate anything small on their weapon including the slide stop/release..... Because under the increased adrenaline of a threat your manual dexterities go out the window. carry with your safety off my friend.. I don't want to see your obituary prematurely.

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

@@jvcorkran oh and if you keep your booger hooker off the bang switch until you're ready to fire (3rd weapon safety rule)....you won't have to worry about blowing your nuts off.....or anything other thing.

[@jvcorkran]

@@napalmstickylikeglue We can agree to disagree, hopefully. I had an instructor that also complained that I had a P320 with an extended grip. He had a full 1911 at his hip. I don't want to carry open and a full size pistol. I've never heard of an extended grip failing. If you train properly there is no issue. When I practice, I engage and disengage the safety. The military uses safeties and it keeps them safe and functional. I prefer that route. To each his own.

[@brianbyers2682]

SPEAK UP PLEASE