Close up look at Sig Sauer’s P938 and P365 - two micro compacts that are similar in size but have many differences. Which is your favorite? Thanks for watching!! Please consider subscribing as I try to grow my little channel.
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@jacobac427 ай бұрын
I carry a 938 almost every day while a close friend carries a 365. The 938 feels smaller because it's less blocky in almost every dimension, though, the 365 is a very small gun too. 365 has more capacity though with Kimber mags the 938 can go up to 8 or 9+1, just sticks out a little bit more. The 938 feels substantially better built but that's likely due to the metal construction. Both have been reliable the last year, but both have the potential for issues in early production units. The 938 has main spring housing issues before July 2015 ($20 2hr fix) and the 365 had a couple issues right when they started production. The 938 feels nicer in the hand with the G10 factory grips and has lots of traction with the checkering. The undercut on the trigger is nice too but makes the trigger guard small if shooting with gloves. The finish on both is terrible, and while good at resisting rubbing they will scratch if you look at them too hard. It's almost like a really thin parkerizing. Shooting is very similar and the sights are functionally identical. With regular sized man hands you can perfectly fit all your fingers on both guns, though the 365 pinches my finger where the mag base plate interfaces with the frame when shooting. The weird baseplate on the normal 7 round 938 mags makes reloading a bit interesting until you get used to it, but this isn't really the kind of gun to be speed reloading anyways. The safety on the 938 is head and shoulders above the one on the 365 and it will loosen up over time, especially if oiled. Both are equally accurate for a tiny gun, though 20-25yd on person sized targets is all I would try in a real world scenario. Trigger is much shorter and crisper on the 938 (especially the reset), though it is also noticeably heavier. It makes for a nice trigger but makes high accuracy hard because of the break weight and tiny frame. The 365 feels like a regular striker fired trigger and is adequate nothing more or less. Women have been 50/50 on the guns, and the only complaint I've ever heard was "snappy" when talking about the 365 and "really nice" on the 938 though I can't substantiate those feelings. Both are great guns and I'd highly recommend either. The 938 feels more "special" to me (though it isn't) but the metal frame makes it feel like a solid tool that you can depend on, similar to a 1911 or CZ75. More old-world. The 365 is a good gun too though and I'd much rather have one than say a Hellcat or G26. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
@vidar1885 ай бұрын
I'm looking to get one of these for a pocket gun for work where I'll get fired if they catch me carrying I appreciate your comment, although I will point out a major advantage of the g26 which is stock mag options. 10+1 in the holster for concealing, but you can carry 15,17, or 19 round stock mags for it. I'm not a huge glock guy (only bought mine because they do great law enforcement discounts), but dont sleep on their mag compatibility game My regular carry is a g30s but that's because no one else makes 10+1 in .45 in a gun that small
@jacobac425 ай бұрын
@@vidar188 That makes sense. The capacity is pretty limited on these pocket guns. From what I know, the 8/9+1 Kimber mags are as large as it gets while still being able to carry. However, I don't use the 938 as a do-it-all gun. I have a different compact sized 9mm that can handle more capacity and different mag sizes and all of that fun if I need that freedom in a carry space. The 938, as good as it is, is more of a rule 1 gun for me and therefore the coarse sights and low capacity aren't that big of a deal. I will say too, the 938 is way way smaller feeling than a G26 when concealing
@Jackson4802 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved my p365xl but I ended up shooting a hellcat recently and sold the sig to buy a hellcat. The last gun I ever expected to like is the hellcat and I carry it every day. Considering the p938 lately, I live in an anti gun state so capacity isn’t an issue as I can only legally carry 10 round +1 in the pipe.
@kevinfinnegan854721 күн бұрын
@@vidar188 You’ll get fired if they catch you carrying at work but you get LEO discount from Glock?
@vidar18821 күн бұрын
@@kevinfinnegan8547 I had a LEO discount from glock, past tense. I quit right before my daughter was born
@douglasbrown7703 ай бұрын
P938 has been my daily carry for 11 years. Love the gun! Although, about 6 months ago the pistol felt like it jumped up to a 20lb trigger pull. Armory took it and came back with a "known design flaw". Sig sent all springs and parts to fix for free. Still LOVE the P938
@scramjet46106 ай бұрын
Best gun review anywhere, with your combination of clear, complete descriptions and great close-up photography.
@TheArkansasGunGuy6 ай бұрын
Wow - thanks so very much!! you just made my day! Usually people just tell me how stupid I am and that I talk funny!!! Thanks for watching!!
@darinfrancois68155 ай бұрын
I own four Sig Sauer pistols. My P938 is definitely my favorite carry side arm. I carry an extra magazine with it. I absolutely love this gun. My most comfortable gun to carry. It’s with me always.
@TheArkansasGunGuy5 ай бұрын
So thin makes it so easy to carry. But feels so substantial w the metal frame!! Thank you so much for watching!
@IDontKnow-bb6mt5 ай бұрын
I own both and both are awesome. But my legion 938 is a level of craftsmanship above the 365.
@williamhughes10676 ай бұрын
Thanks for the excellent comparison video. I own the Sig P938 and love it. I've repeatedly considered buying a P365. Since I live in Washington State, where recent legislation has limited carry guns to 10-round magazines, these small, concealable guns have become much more popular here. However, I still have my 15-17 round pistols for home defense, which I believe are still legal for use on my own property.
@TheArkansasGunGuy6 ай бұрын
Thank YOU so much for the kind words and for watching!!! Has to be so frustrating with those restrictions in your state!!
@nYdGeo4 ай бұрын
Just one man's opinion, but I'd stay with the 938. Unless it has issues, they are reliable and safe weapons. They're actually amazing weapons. And, you can make that impressive trigger even nicer with an inexpensive spring kit. The 365 is a trendsetter in one aspect, size vs magazine capacity. I give them that. But, it's a 5-year old platform with plenty of issues in recent history and no external safety of any type. Early examples had a lot of issues, but to be fair, they mostly seem to have been resolved. But I would need more time. When the 365 has 5-years of realistically problem free, reliable history, I'd consider one. Heck, when Sig as a whole has 5-years of realistically problem free, reliable history, I'd consider one beyond the 320 Max I already own. If I wanted the capacity, polymer and striker fired in a carry pistol, I'd carry the slightly larger Glock 26 with nearly 30-years of proven, reliable operation around the globe. I don't currently own a 365 or a 26, but I've shot both and shoot the 26 much better. That may be due to so many year experience with the Glock trigger, so someone with more 365 experience may do the opposite. I do have a model 27 that is 29-years old, with over 20K rounds through it, and it continues to exceed my expectations. Good luck with your exploration and I hope you suffer no more infringement of your 2A rights.
@dougrobinson86022 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the safety lever on the 938. I trimmed the ball detent spring to make mine more usable. The gun is a joy to shoot and I like the 1911 manual of arms operation.
@jeffmurphy99877 ай бұрын
I carried my 238 Equinox for approximately 20 years every day and love this gun. Totally conceals no problem. Last year switched to 365 X Macro Tacops and have nothing but but great things to say about it. Still carrying my 238 if I need total concealment.
@TheArkansasGunGuy7 ай бұрын
I would love to get some time with the Macro!! Have you liked it so far? Awesome that you have over 20 years with the 238!! Thank you for watching!
@jeffmurphy99877 ай бұрын
Yes my 365 X Macro Tacops shoots like a full size handgun yet conceals just as well as the P238. I’ve had zero failures with the Tacops and can’t believe how blessed I am to carry such a nice piece. I carried my H&K USP Compact 40 for many many years first gun just a little harder to conceal due to width. But really digging my Tacops that I’m experimenting with a Holosun 407K which I’m really enjoying also. Not really a red dot fan due to really bad Astigmatism but this 407K and 6 MOA red dot is fantastically clear and doesn’t starburst like my Eotech holographic did. I’m really enjoying your channel. Been watching KZbin forever yet you’re the first channel I’ve ever subscribe to I’m really enjoying your style of videos. Keep up the good work and welcome to the freedom of carry. I’ve been carrying since I was around 21 in now 54 except for work not allowed @@TheArkansasGunGuy
@TheArkansasGunGuy7 ай бұрын
@@jeffmurphy9987 sorry it took me so long to reply but you absolutely made my day!! thank you so much for the kind words. appreciate you watching (and commenting) more than you will ever know. really enjoying putting this channel together!! THANK YOU again
@popinfresh30888 ай бұрын
I carry my p938 pretty much everyday. It's been great. I never felt like I needed to upgrade. Eight rounds of 9mm should be fine for a pocket gun in my opinion
@albertreade760719 күн бұрын
I just picked up a like new p938 legion today online for 700 shipped, I hope it doesn’t have all the issues everybody says it has, I just love hammer fired all metal pistols and that’s what I want to carry
@TheArkansasGunGuy18 күн бұрын
Mine has had zero issues. Annoying sometimes if you eject a full mag the top round may come out due to steep feed ramp - that has been the only thing I’ve noticed and it’s not even a bad thing. You found a great deal. Very jealous!!
@safaricartvideos7 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about my 938 is the grip, it feels a little larger for such a small gun. I have XL hands, and this is the first small handgun that I can shoot well. The way my hand grips it, the barrel is perfectly aligned with my forearm. I actually practice more just drawing then point and shoot, and I surprise myself how well I do. My previous carry was a little .38 revolver and I couldn't hit a darn thing without some serious effort, the 938 I just point and shoot. I figure if I ever really need it, I probably won't have time to aim.
@callmesceptical91145 ай бұрын
Nice review Arkansas👍 P938 with hogue BRG grip is in my EDC rotation, along with S&W .38 airweight jframe. Right front pocket with sticky DeSantis pocket holster (different models for each). Highly concealable and easy to ignore. Depends on my mood on that day. Both sexy, but looks don’t matter much since I’m the only one to see them. My leather belt holster snuggles with a S&W all steel .357 jframe packing .38+p. I can’t bring myself to carry a hot striker gun without manual safety. P938 cocked and locked much more to my liking. Wheel guns with heavy DAO are comforting as well. Can’t speak to P365…haven’t shot nor carried one. Call me “old school” ✌️
@MrWhitelightning7327 күн бұрын
Great video. I have the 365 but am looking to get a 938.
@letsgorangers52647 ай бұрын
I have both. I carried the 938 from 2013 until I switched over to the 365 in 2020. There’s still a place for the 938 though. Sometimes the thickness (really, the lack there of) of the 938 makes it the better carry choice for me. The only thing I don’t like about the 938 is that it seemed to create small holes in my shirts from the hammer and/or thumb safety. I carry in an OWB leather holster.
@TheArkansasGunGuy7 ай бұрын
Excellent feedback - thanks for sharing - and for watching!!! I carry both and it makes a massive difference how thin they are!!
@ursamajor7468Ай бұрын
It looks green to me, too. 🤷♂️ Maybe your wife's colorblind. 😂 But don't tell her that !! 😮😂
@j0917DW6 ай бұрын
P938 legion is fantastic and shoots so accurately to be so small. I put it in a sticky holster most of the time and conceals super easy .
@rondouglas51477 ай бұрын
Currently I have a Kimber CDP II .45 and an Sig P938 Equinox as my EDC. In currently have an Sig P365 CA in the California jail system until next week. I’m not a striker fire fan but will be testing this out for capacity, If I like it enough, I’ll add it to my CCW and throw it in the rotation.
@joep87876 ай бұрын
I have the P365 in 380 and the Springfield 911 in 380. The Springfield is identical in size and weight to the Sig p238; their magazines are even interchangeable. Both are clones of the old Colt Mustang. I can easily pocket carry the Springfield 911; the p365 can fit in some pockets, but it doesn't disappear in my pocket. The p365 and the 911 both have good triggers and short resets. I find that the p365 in 380 has much less felt recoil than the 911. I shoot it better. It has far greater capacity; 10+1 v 7+1. And I also have a 12 round magazine. Since the p365 came optics ready, I put a Holosun 407k on it. Now it's too big to pocket carry, but I like it so much that I'm going to get an IWB holster for it. One other big difference (at least for me); the p365 is easier to take down for cleaning and lubing. All the micro compacts which are copies of the old Colt Mustang( p238, p938, Springfield 911) have one annoying feature: When you disengage the safety, it pinches the flesh between your thumb and forefinger. It's a distracting shock. You can train yourself to grip it differently in order to avoid this. Be aware of it.
@adambowman41226 ай бұрын
I have both, I want to say I prefer the 938, the 365 is a little snappy compared probably due to the metal frame on the 938, I find I can shoot the 938 a bit better. I find myself wanting to shoot the 938 more than the 365. Also if you want more capacity the kimber micro 9, 8rd mags fit beautifully and run well in the 938!
@Cross_Guard8 ай бұрын
P365 all day every day that's why it's 365 for every single day of carry. Great gun, great shot, lightweight and reliable at least for me. Only 1 malfunction with lots of shooting and that was literally after the first shot and I attribute that to a tight, new magazine I had. It failed to extract the spent casing. Other than that perfection.
@TheArkansasGunGuy8 ай бұрын
Love both. Like hammers BUT I carry my 365 (XL) pretty much every day! Thanks for commenting and for watching!
@rondouglas5147Ай бұрын
The 938 is wider due to the ambient safety which then 365 does not have. I have both but carry the 938 as I’m a 1911 fan.
@TheBandit596 ай бұрын
I own both, im partial to the 938 legion, with Hogue grips. I do not believe a lot of bullets for the most part is important
@mobileinfantry26102 ай бұрын
Watch law enforcement videos and you may feel differently. I've seen so many magazine dumps by Elio in a gun fight and 16 of 17 rounds hit nothing recently in Houston, 4 HPD officers fired 21 rounds at an armed Intruder and missed all 21 shots. Fear and adrenaline are strange bedfellows.
@TheBandit592 ай бұрын
@@mobileinfantry2610 I was a cop for 18 years, I’ve only been in 2 actual shoot outs, but hey I don’t know everything? If I ran out of bullets i’d probably be sorry, but carrying a low capacity gun that is on you , is much better than the high capacity gun you leave at home? Besides, I’m mostly a 1911 guy, with 7-10 shot magazines and a spare or two
@mobileinfantry26102 ай бұрын
I carry the P365 with Sig 124g JHPs as my EDC. My first sub compact. It came with 1-12rd. extended mag which barely gives my pinkey some grip so it resides in the pistol and 1-10rd standard mag which is a bit short for my hand. The ten rd. mag is my spare. I have shot my Sig JHPs, other name brand JHPs in 115g and 124g, 115g brand FMJ and JHP and JHP&FMJ reloads, and off brand JHP & FMJ. Never a fte or ftf. Probably 1000 rnds total. I find the 365 a bt snappy but I have very "meaty" hands so that may be me but I wonder if having the weight of a steel slide, barrel, sights, firing pin and springs above a relativley light polymer frame may exaserbate the snappy rise of the 3.1" barrel. I have no trouble hitting center mass out to 15 yds and trust the 365 with my life. I would like a manual safety because I carry one in the pipe but not enough to trade for an XL. Nite sights are nice, trigger is adequate. I came across the P938 which peaked my interest but have never fired one. I carry owb in a Safariland ALS belted holster with forward cant. Not as concealabe as other rigs but I like the thumb lock and suits my belly🙂. Now looking at a 4.0 " bbl. CCW for better accuracy and faster second shot target acqusition beyond 15 yds. Considering CZ P07, P10c, Glock 19 among others. Any compact users out there with recomendations?
@dansherman19805 ай бұрын
I have a gen 1 p938 it’s kind of picky about ammo. I run fmj ball ammo just to avoid avoid that. Some hollow points won’t feed well.
@StraightUnderFireReviews7 ай бұрын
I added the mischief machines commander grip to my p365 which allows a non polymer application which undoubtedly I enjoy more then polymer… idk how available they are but I jumped on it as soon as I saw it on Rainer arms
@charlesshankle31787 ай бұрын
I own both the P365XL and the P938. The P938 is smaller, it's a true pocket gun. It fits better in the waistband than the P365. I would consider the P365XL model that I have a modern compact gun. For me, it's better carried OWB. My frame of reference is the Glock 19 and competitors such as the P320 carry as duty guns. Full size guns such as the 1911, Glock 17 and the P320 for me are target or military duty guns
@jeffcarter816029 күн бұрын
I have both. I bought the P938 first. Had it for a few years before getting the 365. It got to the point where the 365 was much more comfortable caring. Plus twice the bullets. Now the P938 sits in the safe and cries. 😕
@My_Alchemical_Romance3 ай бұрын
Is the slide on the p938 any easier to pull the slide back on than on the 365? Thanks in advance, great video.
@TheArkansasGunGuy3 ай бұрын
P938 is easier - at least for me. when full mag in p365 it can be hard to rack... THANK YOU for watching@@
@steven33794 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm curious if any of you P938 Legion owners have removed the beveled grip extension and used the "non-Legion" 7 round pinky extension sig mags?
@steven33798 ай бұрын
I have the Legion, about 500 rounds threw it (purchased about 90 days ago), hp and fmj no issues or malfunctions. I just received the Sig replacement ONE PIECE guide rod (just in case). I have the Armalaser green, but I haven't installed it yet. I have the DeSantis Criss Cross leather (cross draw), a Craft right hand thumb break leather holster and a Alabama pocket holster. I love the way it shoots and like you said it's very accurate. I am thinking of getting a P365XL though. Do you think they are going to discontinue the P938 line? Or possibly update with "staggered mags?
@TheArkansasGunGuy8 ай бұрын
I use a leather holster also for my 938 (but forgot the darn name!). I don’t think they will discontinue the 938 but I also don’t think they will ever go away from the single stack design. Thanks again for stopping by!! Happy holidays!
@jackripper60338 ай бұрын
Where do you find the 1 piece guide rod?
@dolan_offline7 ай бұрын
Second this. Where did you get that guide rod?
@steven33797 ай бұрын
@@dolan_offline Midwest gun works website just search for Sig P938 there will be 3, the regular 2-piece, 1-piece and 1-piece stainless steel, I picked the original Sig 1-piece replacement part.
@steven33797 ай бұрын
@@dolan_offlineMidwest gun works...
@brapperdan4 ай бұрын
Man I bought a 938 and it won’t run. Jams constantly. Sent back to sig twice and now they’re saying it’s fine and it must be user error. I’ve lost faith in them as a company. There are forums and forums filled with 938 jamming issues so I know it’s not just mine. This seems to be a trend of them denying the shortcomings in their designs. They do it with the p320 as well. It’s well documented that they are not drop safe and can discharge on their own but they just keep denying it and saying user error or the trigger was pulled. I have a 365 that runs good but I’ll probably never buy another sig unfortunately.
@ratmousebastard2 ай бұрын
what do you mean by "jamming"?? did you have an extraction issue or an ejection issue? You didn't mention what ammo you were using... especially when some ammo is notorious for problems in otherwise perfect operating guns. As far as my experience with 9mm in my P229, it runs flawlessly with any of the popular respected brands, like Federal, Blazer, PMC, etc... pick any grain, any style. But white box Winchester, oh boy.... 1 out of 4 extraction failures, or worse. Will never buy that ammo ever again.
@albertreade760720 күн бұрын
Have you had the issue with the 2 piece guide rod falling apart on the p938 yet?
@TheArkansasGunGuy18 күн бұрын
I have not. So far it’s been a great gun. Don’t shoot it as much as I used to. Thanks so much for watching!!
@cbr600rrturbo6 ай бұрын
Had both, both are good but perfer 365
@NobleSavage442 ай бұрын
Sig365 is not that revolutionary with 10+1. Kel Tec P11 did it in practically the same size as the Sig, way back in 1995.
@TheArkansasGunGuyАй бұрын
Good call on the P11!! I need to learn more about that gun. Thanks so much for watching!!
@e.t.22308 ай бұрын
Check out Wilson Combats new P365
@TheArkansasGunGuy8 ай бұрын
Love Wilson stuff!! My XL has a safety - been waiting on Wilson to make grip module that works with that. Thanks so much for watching!
@kennethhowington56572 ай бұрын
P365 is hard to beat.
@SevenPTSixTwo8 ай бұрын
P290rs in 9mm is best Sig micro
@TheArkansasGunGuy8 ай бұрын
You know I have never seen one of those!!! Would love to see one in person. Good call. Thanks for watching!!
@scooter59402 ай бұрын
Interesting take. I have a dozen handguns including several Sigs, and the 290RS (was gifted to me) just sits in a safe. Uncomfortable to grip, ridiculously hard to break down, and a long, hard DAO trigger pull. Feels like a brick that goes bang. I’m not alone because the gun wasn’t out very long. But, some people love them.
@astrand325 ай бұрын
10 rounds…. Enough said.
@tk423b5 ай бұрын
All that for just 3 rounds. Let’s face it the 365 is ugly. That trigger will make up for the missing rounds. It’s also easier to carry single stacks.
@richvest72126 ай бұрын
There are no.best micro compacts They are unshootable
@alrbredwall6 ай бұрын
No. They are unshootable to you either because your hands are too big (not the guns fault) or you can't shoot (also not the guns fault) people shoot well with this platform all of the time.
@callmesceptical91145 ай бұрын
These aren’t target guns. If you point at the threat and pull the trigger, they shoot just fine. ✌️
@masterplumbermark3 ай бұрын
The P938 is a far better gun with a safety... its only fault is only 6 rounds... If SIG were to upgrade the rounds to 10+ then this gun would be the best on the market The 365 is a great gun too and I have it with a safety.... but I like theP938 more with the hammer fire